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bring back 200 character minimum in /leftypol/ OP's please. Since decycling the shitposting and siberia tier spam has been out of control.

the 200 character limit was never supposed to be removed, it just accidentally happened after the server crashed

Set


i've been getting "body too long" for a post that is 3127 chars and 22 lines. What's up with that? It has a few quotes/links and then some original text.

200 character minimum was a mistake and should be reconsidered.

Also, remove the minimum limit from other boards, at least for /siberia/ if nothing else. There are especially good reasons to be succinct there.

>>37175
That's probably the default, don't think there was a upper limit pre-crash.

>>37180
If you can't write a 200 char OP on /leftypol/ and fill out spam to get around it you should also be banned

Keep /siberia/ festering w/o a limit, those people like to read and post trash all day

>>37183
spammers will just violate the rule anyway retard this just emboldens pseudo-intellectuals and forces everything into generals

>>37181
>That's probably the default
No. it's not the default. I only found out the number of characters/lines by pasting it into a text editor. no matter how many lines breaks I delete, I still get "body too long"

the site won't even tell me what the upper limit is. I can't post effort threads and spammers just get around the lower limit. This is retarded.

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I cannot post the following as a thread [body too long]

Patriotism only makes sense in the postcolonial periphery, where the patriotism takes on the particular flavor of national liberation from imperialist meddling in the forms of privatization, comprador regimes, coups, austerity, union busting, looting of natural resources, occupation, "diplomacy" shenanigans at embassies etc.

In the imperial core patriotism is the chauvinist right of the core to extract from the periphery, and to keep the periphery in a state of unequal development. Patriotism therefore, today, does not make sense in an imperial core context. Because the imperial core, despite being the more developed part of the world, constitutes the historically regressive forces.

However, the imperial core used to be historically progressive. Not in the moralist sense that the word "progressive" is used in countries like the United States, but in the historical materialist, dialectical materialist, Marxist sense of the word, as in causing historical progress.

When Commodore Matthew Perry forced open the Japanese markets so that US imperialism could gain a foothold in East Asia, that was historically progressive, because it caused the isolationist feudal lords of Japan to rapidly modernize and become capitalist through the Meiji restoration.

Japan, today is a highly developed imperial core nation with a capitalist economy largely as a direct result of the historically progressive role the US played in opening it up to world trade. By bringing the feudal semi-feudal nations into the capitalist fold, the imperial core played a historically progressive role.

Consequently, In that era, patriotism in the imperial periphery had a reactionary character. Those in feudal Japan who sought to resist westernization and to protect the traditional way of life were preventing the evolution of the mode of production from feudalism to capitalism, and therefore preventing "historical progression" as defined above. The historically progressive forces in Japan during the Meiji restoration were the westernizers, not the traditionalists.

Today, it is the reverse. The imperial core no longer develops the periphery that much, but has a mostly extractive relationship with the periphery, one predicated on unequal development. Even if the core and periphery develop at the exact same rate, say 10% increase in GDP (PPP) per year, the periphery will never catch up to the core. To quote Marx in Wage Labor and Capital:

>A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls.


>An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/ch06.htm

The above quote applies to core and periphery just as much as it applies to capitalist and laborer. For the periphery to catch up with the core, unequal development must be destroyed, and for unequal development to be destroyed, the nations outside of the imperial core must band together in anti-imperialist solidarity, and develop a mode of production that can outcompete capitalism. That is to say: socialism.

We see this fear already existing in the imperial core bourgeoisie, even if you disagree about China being socialist, we have people like Marco Rubio saying "China has found a way to use capitalism against us." and people like Hillary Clinton saying "[China is] a controlled top-down economy, you will never compete and win against them unless you take back the means of production."

So the patriotism in the peripheral nations serves a historically progressive and anti-imperialist purpose of rapidly developing socialism and outcompeting the imperial core. Patriotism in the core his historically regressive and serves the chauvinist purpose of maintaining unequal development which is predicated on post-1991 unipolar hegemony. Multipolarity is not socialism, but it is the destruction of unipolar hegemony, which is a prerequisite for socialism's further development in the periphery. Once Socialism has enough of a foothold in the world and can outcompete capitalism without having to fear imperial hegemony any longer, it is the socialist leaders who will be the Commodore Perrys and the increasingly isolationist and protectionist former imperialist countries (see how the United States is regressing from "Free Trade" dogma into 19th century isolationism and protectionism as it loses its currency hegemony and suffers from inflation and an inability to compete?) will be like feudal Japan, resisting a change in the mode of production.

>>37188
see here
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2051122.html

see how short I had to make the opening post before I could actually post it? most of the actual thread text had to go in a reply. The reply actually has less of an upper limited than the post. WHY????

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more evidence of inability to make effortposts. This was intended as a reply to USApol, not even its own thread

>>37205
Dude, cut you post in several self replies, that a simple a reliable way that I and others are using for a decade at this point

>>37189
Replies are not supposed to have higher limit than OPs, please report this as a bug on meta

>>37210
this is meta

>>37212
Oops I was in the overboard my bad

Tried to make a /political economy/ general with the following text and got "Body Too Long" as reported above by others.

A general thread dedicated to political economy.

Youtube Playlists
Anwar Shaikh - Historical Foundations of Political Economy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTMFx0t8kDzc72vtNWeTP05x6WYiDgEx7
Anwar Shaikh - Capitalism: Competition, Conflict and Crises
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1uqxcCESK6B1juh_wnKoxftZCcqA1go
Anwar Shaikh - Capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz4k72ocf2TZMxrEVCgpp1b5K3hzFWuZh
Andrew S. Rightenburg - Human-Read Audiobook (not AI voice or TTS voice) of Capital Volume 1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlSHVigHHx_wjaeWmDN2W-h8
Andrew S. Rightenburg - Human-Read Audiobook (not AI voice or TTS voice) of Capital Volume 2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlSxnp8uR2kshvhG-5kzrjdQ
Andrew S. Rightenburg - Human-Read Audiobook (not AI voice or TTS voice) of Capital Volume 3
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlRoV5CVoc5yyYL4nMO9ZJzO
Andrew S. Rightenburg - Human-Read Audiobook (not AI voice or TTS voice) of Theories of Surplus Value
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlQa-dFgNFtQvvMOgNtV7nXp
Paul Cockshott - Labor Theory of Value Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKVcO3co5aCBnDt7k5eU8msX4DhTNUila
Paul Cockshott - Economic Planning Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKVcO3co5aCDnkyY9YkQxpx6FxPJ23joH
Paul Cockshott - Materialism, Marxism, and Thermodynamics Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKVcO3co5aCBv0m0fAjoOy1U4mOs_Y8QM
Victor Magariño - Austrian Economics: A Critical Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpHi51IjLqerA1aKeGe3DcRc7zCCFkAoq
Victor Magariño - Rethinking Classical Economics
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpHi51IjLqepj9uE1hhCrA66tMvNlnItt
Victor Magariño - Mathematics for Classical Political Economy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpHi51IjLqepWUHXIgVhC_Txk2WJgaSst

Potential Sources of Information
Leftypol Wiki Political Economy Category (needs expanding)
https://leftypedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Political_economy
Sci-Hub
https://sci-hub.se/about
Marxists Internet Archive
https://www.marxists.org/
Library Genesis
https://libgen.is/
University of the Left
http://ouleft.sp-mesolite.tilted.net/Online
bannedthought.net
https://bannedthought.net/
Books scanned by Ismail from eregime.org that were uploaded to archive.org
https://archive.org/details/@ismail_badiou
The Great Soviet Encyclopedia: Articles from the GSE tend to be towards the bottom.
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/
EcuRed: Cuba's online encyclopedia
https://www.ecured.cu/
Books on libcom.org
https://libcom.org/book
Dictionary of Revolutionary Marxism
https://massline.org/Dictionary/index.htm
/EDU/ ebook share thread
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/22659.html
Pre-Marxist Economics (Marx studied these thinkers before writing Capital and Theories of Surplus Value)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/index.htm
Principle writings of Karl Marx on political economy, 1844-1883
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/subject/economy/index.htm
Speeches and Articles of Marx and Engels on Free Trade and Protectionism, 1847-1888
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/subject/free-trade/index.htm
Political Economy After Marx's Death
https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/postmarx.htm

>>37125
We've been asking for min-char-limits on OP's for a year and they ignore it, finally they for no reason lower the max-char-limit.
It's peak retardation.
Wonder how long we have to berate them until we get this.
We have legitimately the dumbest jannies.

>>37208
>just make posts smaller
<spend an extra 25 minutes doing gay little puzzles, getting 'flood detected' constantly and having to alter the text periodically to avoid a broken spam filter.
How about minecraft yourself.


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