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Is there a way to use quote threading here? Like how it's possible with 4chan-x or 8chanss userscripts? By quote threading I mean organizing reply posts by which posts they quote, instead of time.

>>43507
>>43508
>>43509
It's possible to get https certificates for .onion domains, but they are nowhere near as important as they are to clearnet websites
https://community.torproject.org/onion-services/advanced/https/
http://xmrhfasfg5suueegrnc4gsgyi2tyclcy5oz7f5drnrodmdtob6t2ioyd.onion/onion-services/advanced/https/index.html

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>>43510
you mean quote inlining? i think that is what its called, where you click the quote and it nests the posts. 4chanx works if you just add the board to the @include but its a little buggy sometimes and inlining doesnt work here for some reason. i still get display on hover though if the post isn't on screen but its not helpful for following multiple replies you have to click and then it messes up your jump to last read post marker. doesn't work on lainchan either probly something to do with that

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>>43511
hmm maybe i am blind or cant read
is this new?

>>43511
nope, it's actually the option on my first pic, it's at the very bottom of 4chanx's main settings menu. 4chanx sort of works here, but quote threading is one of the missing features, there was supposed to be an option on the header like the second picture. And when it's enabled it would look like the last pic. Notice how all the replies to a post are below it, regardless if they got posted way later.

I don't know if any of the devs use Tor anymore, but in case no-one knows, if the node has been banned then posting just fails without a message and reopens the captcha.

>>43557
There have been days where we have been banned before and this was the case before. It seems though the mods are no longer content to stop at torposters in their mission to drive pph to the ground. Last week there seem to have been only a few tor posts, that went through before the mods remembered to renew the ban.

Where can I see statistics for posts and individual posters like on 2ch?

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Cytube is broken again >>43606
devs please fix it when you can

>>43607
Wtf https://tv.leftypol.org:2053/socket.io/socket.io.js
It works? Did it fix itself or what?
How did you get that error?

>>43636
I tried it on a different pc and it worked, its just on this one tailsOS pc that it doesn't work on neither tor or firefox.

Quotes of posts don't work if you parenthesize them: >>>/leftypol/2594455

Why does the word "egg" preceded by the indefinite article "an" get filtered to "auygh"?

>>43710
The uyghur filter ignores spaces and accepts e as an alternative to i.
Changing egg to 🥚 before the filter gets applied should fix that.

There is CP on the main board again clean it up jannies

>>43726
Really should be more Asian jannies

>>43727
could use some more asian transhumanists too

okay. thanks a lot wordfilter very cool

CSS issue: Jungle theme has the thread hide drop down pitch black.

maybe for upstream vichan, but some way of clarifying that video files are not images. Could be a special colored border on the thumbnail, a subtitle text, or a small projector icon overlaid in the corner

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Please make it so that when you search like this:
https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=aaaaaa&board=tech
the selected board is automatically /tech/ so if I modify the keyword I don't have to choose it again please please

I think it's just reverting this?
https://github.com/lainchan/lainchan/commit/b89fe3046bfbc0d7db8e7e8773e92c0536417450

I think one of you is banning people by accident.
I reported a post but then was banned for the exact same reason I reported the post. I can only assume it was a mistake. Also, it says I made an appeal but I didn't.

>>44027
There was an appeal made for spam. If it was you, it's unbanned

Please implement a captcha bypass like most other imageboards, including 8chan, had. Filling in a captcha for every post is really shit.

Also please consider rolling a custom captcha, like leftychan does. The hCaptcha is slow as fuck, glitchy, defeats the purpose of using Tor to prevent fed tracking, and keeps stealing focus which is horrible when typing. Hell, if you want to keep raiders out, use a captcha like leftyboorus which requires site knowledge to pass.

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2660071.html#2660587
>From what I can find, there's this "James" guy who's been going around in recent weeks to vichan-based boards (including leftypol) and recommending an "anti-CP" config change that actually includes blocks for all of *.ru, all of *.cn, etc., and uses DNS-based blocks based on radlib DNS-check APIs.
<jannies adding random commits to the config files that they do not check but take on faith from *check notes* random internet reactionaries
Ar you really so dumb you did this retardo shit? Or is anon having an episode?
Please tell me this is not true.

>>44045
theres CP bots posting in siberia which goes to show these filters dont even work

>>44045
The vichan config is outdated, as i'm helping James encode the filter logic into a modular filter system. This system should compile a rating for a post based on multiple threat indicators, meaning operators will be able to decide with which granularity to block or hit users with a captcha and switch between various configurations on the fly.

Ideally boards will only use the system to block transparent bots, unless they need to fill a gap in moderation or they're actively under attack. In other words we're trying to do what cloudflare promises.

>includes blocks for all of *.ru, all of *.cn, etc

I've already separated the blocked IP-ranges into one for VPNs and another only for VPS hosting and similar commercial providers. Residential IPs should be unaffected either way.

>uses DNS-based blocks based on radlib DNS-check APIs.

I've looked through these lists and their data seems to be mostly collated from email spam reports and automated spamtraps. Do you know of any radlib-motivated blocks?

>>44046
AFAIK we're not in contact with the leftypol tech team yet. James is currently doing outreach on smaller imageboards.

>>44048
>Do you know of any radlib-motivated blocks?
No but OP in that post i linked is claiming RT and other .ru sites are blocked as well as many .cn sites, as far as i could tell? I come here to ask if this is true or not. i hope not.

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>>44049
The fact i'm unable to post picrel is further proof leftypol.org isn't using our infrastructure. They probably still have the old d0llars filter on the tor node, because our filters don't indiscriminately block links, they only look for a configurable set of url shorteners and pastebin sites.

POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR WHY A WHOLE BUNCH OF LINKS SUCH AS RT LINKS AND X LINKS ARE SUDDENLY BLOCKED ON LEFTYPOL

To confirm the problem, try posting some random RT link (i.e., the Russian English-language news site). You'll receive a pop-up saying 'Suspicious post.' Keep the wording of this pop-up in mind. It's not wording that can be found in the site-independent leftypol source code:

https://forgejo.leftypol.org/leftypol/leftypol/search/branch/config?path=&q=suspicious&mode=exact

So it's likely come from a recent change to site-dependent files such as configuration files.

About a month ago, someone calling himself "James from netherchan" started appealing to admins/devs of vichan-based boards to include his configuration changes supposedly aimed at blocking CP. He first posted to sushigirl.cafe:

https://sushigirl.cafe/yakuza/res/1198.html#q1540
https://sushigirl.cafe/yakuza/res/1198.html#q1545
https://pastebin.com/raw/CFMd97uT

As can be seen from the pastebin, his configuration changes were strangely quite broad for anti-CP, including, for instance, TLD-wide blocks on all Russian *.ru and Chinese *.cn links:

'body' => '/\.(ru|cn [snip]
'action' => 'reject',
'message' => 'Suspicious post.',

All Telegram links:

t\.me|telegram\.me

All X/Twitter links:

x\.co

(Note that this also blocks the .com links.)

And so on. Note too the multiple instances of his custom message:

'message' => 'Suspicious post.'

There was no obvious RT block at that point, but he was continually making changes.

About two weeks ago, he created the following thread here on leftypol, using the name "James from the Internet" and claiming his suggested changes were solely to defend against "automated CP attacks":

https://leftypol.org/meta/res/43906.html

In it, he pushed for leftypol admins/devs to accept his configuration changes and appears to have established email contact with some folks at some point. Now, all of a sudden, generals like /ukr/ are getting their OP templates blocked because of matching filter links, requiring filter-evasion workarounds.

On his Twitter account (you can find it by simply searching Google for james netherchan), he engages positively with a bunch of Russophobes like Vatnik Soup. Relevant perhaps.

>>44055
>TLD-wide blocks on all Russian *.ru and Chinese *.cn links
I see what you mean. As i already said though, this config is outdated and James himself stopped using it on his imageboard. The leftypol mods never told us they were using it as well and if they were to get in touch with the github project, they would receive an updated configuration that is a lot more targeted and adaptable.

>>44049
I made that post. I can confirm that RT and X links are still blocked, but the tests I did for *.ru, *.cn, and at least one Telegram domain passed without blocks, so these filters likely got removed by someone along the line. (I'm maybe like, eh, 50% sure that a Telegram test got blocked for me around eight hours ago, but I can't reproduce that now…)

>>44056
Yeah, as noted in >>44057, I can confirm that the *.ru and *.cn filters haven't applied here on leftypol for any tests I've done. If you have access to the latest configuration, can you see whether there's an rt(dot)com block?

>>44058
We never had an RT block to begin with. I only see patterns for url shorteners, pastebins and various TLDs spammers could be using (which i personally find ill-advised) in our repo. If the leftypol mods banned other sites, because they're banderites or zionazis or whatever, then that's their thing to clear up.

>>44059
I can confirm that qt(dot)com gets blocked but not qy.com. It looks like someone may have unwittingly (?) created a broken filter somewhere.

>>44061 (me)
Found it:

|t\.co|

This filter directed at a Twitter shortener also blocks rt(dot)com, qt(dot)com, etc.

>>44062 (me)
So filters like t\.co and x\.co are problematic because they're going to match for all .com sites (not just .co) whose domains end with a 't' or an 'x'.

>>44062
>>44063
Sure, i can fix that. The solution is to surround each url pattern with "(^|[^a-zA-Z0-9-])" and "($|[^a-zA-Z0-9-])"

>>44045
I believe I saw the filters you are talking about. They were really aggressive, but potentially useful, so took only a few that looked like the less intrusive ones.
>>44052
>leftypol.org isn't using our infrastructure
I don't even know what infrastructure you're talking about tbh.
I've been working on and off on my own IP information microservice for the past month or so.
Also I've been less active in general cuz work lately, so I'm a bit out of the loop.
>>44055
Yup those are the links I was given. They're really aggressive indeed which is why I only installed some after a quick review.
> In it, he pushed for leftypol admins/devs to accept his configuration changes and appears to have established email contact with some folks at some point.
Never heard of the guy, but maybe he contacted the mod which gave the pastebin to me.
>>44064
I'll look into it

>>44064
Looks reasonable enough to me on little sleep.

>>44064
I don't think that's a good idea, it's going to make the regex engine match the whole text, which could have bad perf implications.
Use \b if you can https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7605198/how-does-b-work-when-using-regular-expressions#7606358

>>44065
I invited you to the bbs-guard project repository on github.
Flood detected; Post discarded.

>>44068
I've seen lex/yacc documentation mention the complement bracket expression being slow, but the above expression should never match more than one character directly surrounding the domain. "\b" is also not in POSIX, which is bad form.

>>44069
Thanks man. Do you happen to have matrix? There's a tiny Vichan developer group I could invite you to.
>>44070
> "\b" is also not in POSIX, which is bad form.
Yes but our reference here is the PHP engine

>>44071
Communication over github would be preferred, but you can reach me at glaive at chat.hashi.sbs. Also, James is the vichan developer, i only write the board-agnostic stuff.

>>44068
>>44064
Is filtering the entire .co space too aggressive (I only ever see it used by shorteners, phishing sites, and weirdos lmao)?

>>44072
…there's a way to communicate on github (beyond issues I mean)?

>>44074
There is a forum feature and we currently use one thread as a glorified chatroom.

>>44075
Oh neat

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Holy fuck, I just did what I thought was correct as the CP bot likes to use link shorteners which sometimes contain .cn and .ru
I blocked them entirely on this reasoning nothing political.
I also did not block them here because get this….leftypol isn't my site.
I suggested other admins use my method tactics but I didn't think of the wider implications.
I didn't think people would get so upset when I tried to develop an anti CP tool.
Jeez.

>>44077
Admittedly I don't see any malice now that I've found the problematic t\.co filter responsible for the RT block.

It's those .ru and .cn filters (which weren't active on leftypol) that triggered my initial schizo paranoia suspicions. I knew that a lot of Westoid IT boomer bros block IP traffic from Russia and China countries, but I didn't see the utility of aggressively blocking all Russian and Chinese posted links, especially not as an anti-CP measure.


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