Do any of you guys have a reverse problem of what the normies have in that listening to cheesy pop music makes you suffer? The normies say that extreme music is noise but the moment I sit down and listen to some animu J-pop song it feels like torture. How is it possible? Is my brain wired differently? I don't get it. Do you have similar feelings? I still cannot explain why that is the case, it's not even a matter of elitism, my ears just refuse to listen to this type of music. It is indeed like noise to me. Except I'd prefer actual noise to that since some Japanoise and industrial music are actually pretty cool. Is that how normies feel when I turn my music on?
>>14955 (me)
You know what? When it comes to remixes/rock covers I don't actually mind pop songs that much. So maybe that's just instrumentals. But then again, I also hate modern deep house, uplifting trance, modern trap and brostep so really even the remixes are hit-or-miss.
>>14956Sure but what kind of illness?
Nah, I like harsh noise and some pop stuff. That hyperpop is bridging the gap between the two is exciting to me even if I don't care much for hyperpop.
Grammy award music is genuinely unlistenable though.
>>14961>I like harsh noise and some pop stuff.And I can't enjoy pop personally. Funny how it is but I love me some eurobeat, UK hardcore and UK garage. I think it's legit mostly instrumentals for me, the vocals pull all the attention away. I get it, that's the point, but if I don't pay attention to the lyrics (99.9999999999% of the time) I start paying attention to how boring the instrumentals are it seems. And how pop songs have no bass. Have you noticed how they don't add bass no more? Why? What did the bass do to the pop producers?
>>14962 (me)
You know, maybe I just like drums and bass. You can legit make a track consisting of a bass guitar and drums and I'd think it's a bop. Heck, I can listen to just random drum loops for all I care. And in pop music the two instruments that suck the most are drums and bass which is very grating to my ears.
>>14963 (me)
Yeah, you know what? The tracks feel basic in general, it's not just the drums.
>>14955I can listen to pop songs but not repeatedly
>>14966Isn't electropop just EDM with vocals?
>>14955>Do any of you guys have a reverse problem of what the normies have in that listening to cheesy pop music makes you suffer? The normies say that extreme music is noise but the moment I sit down and listen to some animu J-pop song it feels like torture. How is it possible? Is my brain wired differently? I don't get it. Do you have similar feelings? I still cannot explain why that is the case, it's not even a matter of elitism, my ears just refuse to listen to this type of music. It is indeed like noise to me. Except I'd prefer actual noise to that since some Japanoise and industrial music are actually pretty cool. Is that how normies feel when I turn my music on?Music has objectively gotten worse as a whole. None of this present trash will be remembered like the past was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_studies>Madonna studies (also called Madonna scholarship, Madonna-ology or Madonna phenomenon) refers to the study of the work and life of American singer-songwriter Madonna using an interdisciplinary approach incorporating cultural studies and media studies. In a general sense, it could refer to any academic studies devoted to her. After Madonna's debut in 1983, the discipline did not take long to start up and the field appeared in the mid-1980s, achieving its peak in the next decade. By this time, educator David Buckingham deemed her presence in academic circles as "a meteoric rise to academic canonisation". The rhetoric academic view of that time, majority in the sense of postmodernism, generally considered her as "the most significant artist of the late twentieth century" according to The Nation, thus she was understood variously and as a vehicle to open up issues. Into the 21st century, Madonna continued to receive academic attention.[a] At the height of its developments, authors of these academic writings were sometimes called "Madonna scholars" or "Madonnologists", and both E. Ann Kaplan and John Fiske were classified as precursors. >>14969>Madonna-ologyThis is the funniest word I have ever heard. And the concept of dedicating one field of study to one single artist is just ridiculous, no critically acclaimed artist has gotten a dedicated field to them.
Hating on pop music is so cliche
>>14962Really?
I think there's a lot more bass in pop music now especially with the synth bass
>>14975>Hating on pop music is so clicheSomething-something blind contrarianism, something-something duped egoism, something-something bourgeois individualism. I understand that many people hate on pop music because they're posers trying to be different but I do genuinely dislike it. It's okay to have similar opinions to those of others, that doesn't make you an NPC necessarily, otherwise you use the same logic as those very posers.
>>14976>I think there's a lot more bass in pop music now especially with the synth bassIf you're referring to modern deep house and modern trap then I already mentioned the problems associated with them (painful stripped-down minimalism). However, deep house and trap are not the entirety of modern pop music influences, other pop songs rely on synth/piano leads and vocals instead while making the bass so quiet that it basically doesn't exist (think of the mixing on Metallica's …And Judgement for All). Positions by Ariana Grande for example. Ofc UKG and drill remixes make any pop song a bop but that's an achievement of the UKG and drill composers. Luv ya, Brits, your music is underappreciated. Thank you, Brittania, for giving us the holy grail that is dubstep.
>>14979 (me)
I must add that Billie Eilish, while still relying on minimalism, does manage to make something interesting and have a decent bassline. But like, she's like Gorillaz in that she's more of an art pop artist, her music is very quirky and weird and bizarre, using very strange samples and shit. Except for "lovely" which is a more standard cinematic piano ballad.
Same shit with J-grime. Same shit with J-core. Same shit with J-metal… Wait, I don't like Babymetal. Whatever, ignore me mentioning J-rock.
almost anything with pop in it is bad so yeah
>>15001>almost anything with pop in it is bad so yeahBruh, Ramones and Green Day are based. My point is the opposite: other genres make pop better. Pop's instrumentals are boring.
>>14955because you're neither a gay man or a heterosexual gender conformist woman
>>14955A feeling associated with a sound type is a hard thing to shake. For me personally I thought some sounds were bad because a person told me they didn't like a song. After talking to a lot of people, I found that everybody likes different songs, you might be able to share 1 in 5 of your favorite songs with your friend and the song would be compatible between you.
It's alright to like any song really. Here have some Justice - We Are Your Friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0TvnWRSyr4You might like it.
>>15081
>a "influential" black artist takes a stab at it and is labeled a fucking genius revolutionary for producing the most basic bitch version of that music.
gaslight
>men will usually "deep dive" into at least one genre and find pretty complex stuff that they get very "autistic" about
gatekeep
>trends in the industry became dominated by women
girlboss
I know exactly what you mean, but I have no idea why it happens. Like I am not a pop hater, there are pop songs I genuinely like. But there is a unique quality to a bad pop song. Other things I dont listen to, such as shitty butt rock or grindcore screeching, gets processed as "ok, this is noise, I dont enjoy it", but awful pop song triggers a flight reaction. Like I have to stop it, get out of there, just unbearable. Example: this Beyonce song. It is an assault on my senses, so fucking awful it clouds the brain.
because it's slop.
>>15156heh, "pop is slop".
It even rhymes
>>15140>awful pop song triggers a flight reaction. Like I have to stop it, get out of there, just unbearable. Example: this Beyonce song.lol
I don't have a good theory of pop music, or what can constitute "good" pop music (if there is such a thing). But if it's innovative (when it is innovative), it might be more in the technics of production and in aesthetics than in terms of songwriting. The songs themselves rely on formulatic hooks and structure.
Pop music is hard to seperate from its visual elements and in the sonic texture.
Here's auyghy Azalea video from 2014. An interesting thing about this is it came out just as really out-of-control SJW / woke stuff was spreading, and there were a lot of people who didn't like her, because she's a white girl trying to sound like a black girl. (The fact that she's grinding on a black guy in the video was apparently not politically progressive!) But aesthetically and sonically, I think it's good pop.
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