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Do any of you guys have a reverse problem of what the normies have in that listening to cheesy pop music makes you suffer? The normies say that extreme music is noise but the moment I sit down and listen to some animu J-pop song it feels like torture. How is it possible? Is my brain wired differently? I don't get it. Do you have similar feelings? I still cannot explain why that is the case, it's not even a matter of elitism, my ears just refuse to listen to this type of music. It is indeed like noise to me. Except I'd prefer actual noise to that since some Japanoise and industrial music are actually pretty cool. Is that how normies feel when I turn my music on?

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>>14955 (me)
You know what? When it comes to remixes/rock covers I don't actually mind pop songs that much. So maybe that's just instrumentals. But then again, I also hate modern deep house, uplifting trance, modern trap and brostep so really even the remixes are hit-or-miss.
>>14956
Sure but what kind of illness?

Nah, I like harsh noise and some pop stuff. That hyperpop is bridging the gap between the two is exciting to me even if I don't care much for hyperpop.

Grammy award music is genuinely unlistenable though.

>>14961
>I like harsh noise and some pop stuff.
And I can't enjoy pop personally. Funny how it is but I love me some eurobeat, UK hardcore and UK garage. I think it's legit mostly instrumentals for me, the vocals pull all the attention away. I get it, that's the point, but if I don't pay attention to the lyrics (99.9999999999% of the time) I start paying attention to how boring the instrumentals are it seems. And how pop songs have no bass. Have you noticed how they don't add bass no more? Why? What did the bass do to the pop producers?

>>14962 (me)
You know, maybe I just like drums and bass. You can legit make a track consisting of a bass guitar and drums and I'd think it's a bop. Heck, I can listen to just random drum loops for all I care. And in pop music the two instruments that suck the most are drums and bass which is very grating to my ears.

>>14963 (me)
Yeah, you know what? The tracks feel basic in general, it's not just the drums.

>>14955
I can listen to pop songs but not repeatedly

>>14955
the type of popular music that is played on the radio sucks, because instrumentation, mood and structure are constrained as to not trip anyone up. pop music as a genre is fine though especially on the edge to other genres, see vidrel which has interesting textures, but is still distinctly electropop.

>>14966
Isn't electropop just EDM with vocals?

>>14955
>Do any of you guys have a reverse problem of what the normies have in that listening to cheesy pop music makes you suffer? The normies say that extreme music is noise but the moment I sit down and listen to some animu J-pop song it feels like torture. How is it possible? Is my brain wired differently? I don't get it. Do you have similar feelings? I still cannot explain why that is the case, it's not even a matter of elitism, my ears just refuse to listen to this type of music. It is indeed like noise to me. Except I'd prefer actual noise to that since some Japanoise and industrial music are actually pretty cool. Is that how normies feel when I turn my music on?
Music has objectively gotten worse as a whole. None of this present trash will be remembered like the past was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_studies
>Madonna studies (also called Madonna scholarship, Madonna-ology or Madonna phenomenon) refers to the study of the work and life of American singer-songwriter Madonna using an interdisciplinary approach incorporating cultural studies and media studies. In a general sense, it could refer to any academic studies devoted to her. After Madonna's debut in 1983, the discipline did not take long to start up and the field appeared in the mid-1980s, achieving its peak in the next decade. By this time, educator David Buckingham deemed her presence in academic circles as "a meteoric rise to academic canonisation". The rhetoric academic view of that time, majority in the sense of postmodernism, generally considered her as "the most significant artist of the late twentieth century" according to The Nation, thus she was understood variously and as a vehicle to open up issues. Into the 21st century, Madonna continued to receive academic attention.[a] At the height of its developments, authors of these academic writings were sometimes called "Madonna scholars" or "Madonnologists", and both E. Ann Kaplan and John Fiske were classified as precursors.

>>14969
Fuck this song knocks. Nothing by Taylor Swift or Beyonce knocks like this.

>>14969
>Madonna-ology
This is the funniest word I have ever heard. And the concept of dedicating one field of study to one single artist is just ridiculous, no critically acclaimed artist has gotten a dedicated field to them.


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Hating on pop music is so cliche

>>14962
Really?
I think there's a lot more bass in pop music now especially with the synth bass

>>14975
>Hating on pop music is so cliche
Something-something blind contrarianism, something-something duped egoism, something-something bourgeois individualism. I understand that many people hate on pop music because they're posers trying to be different but I do genuinely dislike it. It's okay to have similar opinions to those of others, that doesn't make you an NPC necessarily, otherwise you use the same logic as those very posers.
>>14976
>I think there's a lot more bass in pop music now especially with the synth bass
If you're referring to modern deep house and modern trap then I already mentioned the problems associated with them (painful stripped-down minimalism). However, deep house and trap are not the entirety of modern pop music influences, other pop songs rely on synth/piano leads and vocals instead while making the bass so quiet that it basically doesn't exist (think of the mixing on Metallica's …And Judgement for All). Positions by Ariana Grande for example. Ofc UKG and drill remixes make any pop song a bop but that's an achievement of the UKG and drill composers. Luv ya, Brits, your music is underappreciated. Thank you, Brittania, for giving us the holy grail that is dubstep.

>>14979 (me)
I must add that Billie Eilish, while still relying on minimalism, does manage to make something interesting and have a decent bassline. But like, she's like Gorillaz in that she's more of an art pop artist, her music is very quirky and weird and bizarre, using very strange samples and shit. Except for "lovely" which is a more standard cinematic piano ballad.

>regular J-pop
<Ew, weeb cringe, wtf?
>Japanese UK garage
<YO, BITCH, KAWAII DESNE, TURN THAT SHIT UP!!
I'm a hypocrite and I am not sorry.

Boom-tss-cats-boom-tss-cats-cats-boom-tss-cats-boom-tss-cats-cats-boom-tss-cats-boom-tss-cats-cats-boom-tss-cats-boom-tss-cats-cats.

Same shit with J-grime. Same shit with J-core. Same shit with J-metal… Wait, I don't like Babymetal. Whatever, ignore me mentioning J-rock.

almost anything with pop in it is bad so yeah

>>15001
>almost anything with pop in it is bad so yeah
Bruh, Ramones and Green Day are based. My point is the opposite: other genres make pop better. Pop's instrumentals are boring.

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Based. Pop is gay, power electronics better.

>>14955
because you're neither a gay man or a heterosexual gender conformist woman

>>15016
>because you're neither a gay man or a heterosexual gender conformist woman
I like funk, soul, R&B, Italo disco, Chicago house, UK garage and Balearic trance, you're rong.

>>14955
A feeling associated with a sound type is a hard thing to shake. For me personally I thought some sounds were bad because a person told me they didn't like a song. After talking to a lot of people, I found that everybody likes different songs, you might be able to share 1 in 5 of your favorite songs with your friend and the song would be compatible between you.

It's alright to like any song really. Here have some Justice - We Are Your Friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0TvnWRSyr4
You might like it.

Worked in the music industry for a decade doing mash up of everything (label, promotion, festivals, event organization etc).
Modern pop music is an entirely commercial product basically tuned to the tastes of YAAASSSS girls, blacks and gays. Women in general, have fucking TERRIBLE taste in music becaue the way women consume music is for the most part, completely different from men. Women consume "social experiences" and music is seen for the most part by the average woman, as a social experience or event. You don't actually like Taylor Swift because she's a great lyricist or musician, you like Taylor Swift because all your friends and everyone else likes Taylor Swift, you follow Tay Tay's drama, you follow all the boys she dates, you goss with your friends, you all go "YAAAAAAASSS I LOVE THIS SONG WOOOO" when shake it off is played at a party.

Women are the primary consumer of pop music, pop music is aimed at women. In the industry we had a slogan "play to the women" and "don't scare off the women" which was a nice way of saying "play simple, poppy catchy/melodramatic bullshit, if you drop something complex and deep, they will run".

There is a theory that the reason men are so much better than chess, comes from the fact guys kind of become "idiot savant's" when they focus, all parts of the brain sort of hyper-lock onto a topic where men need to learn everything about it, hence why even Normie retard guys at work somehow know the dick size, masturbation stroke rate, average cum weight of each player of an entire football team, that same idiot savant plays a role in music, men will usually "deep dive" into at least one genre and find pretty complex stuff that they get very "autistic" about, your average normie guy probably has some very out of left field band or genre they know everything about, this simply is not the case with women.

I can back this up with facts as well, women now dominate music consumerism by a large margin, and music charts have never, ever been as shallow and dominated by single styles of music/genres as they are now. Go back to even late 1990s when men dominated charts, and the charts were waaaay more varied and had far better music.
Another is that black people have 10000x the social cache among mainstream youth audiences than white people. I've watched genres go from "white nerd shit" to instantly, overnight, being the big trend the moment a "influential" black artist takes a stab at it and is labeled a fucking genius revolutionary for producing the most basic bitch version of that music. Behind almost all actually really revolutionary, complex music, there is some autistic white male chinless nerd sitting in a fucking studio day in and day out, honestly, behind almost all fucking pop music there is a autistic white male chinless nerd sitting in a studio day in and out. For whatever reason, Black people used to have super varied tastes in music. Go back to even the 80s and black music was spread across tonnes of various genres, but now it's mostly has to be Hip Hop/RnB or "GAY", genres that were the domain of chinstroking white nerds are now the genres of gay black and YAASS GIRLS I LOVE THIS ITS SO URBAN AND UNDERGROUND women, while for some reason, the average guy will just like something because black people are listening to it now.

So yes, unironically, trends in the industry became dominated by women with shit taste and black people with massive ingroup biases who still mostly only listen to 2 black dominated genres.

Yes, this all sounds racist and sexist. But after watching this shit for over a decade, day in and out, from inside the industry, and seeing how the industry functions, it really is the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIGSXdj-gj0 - This comedic video by two producers was a pretty popular one doing the rounds among us in the industry back when it released, because it's pretty fucking accurate. Just make the two MC's black and give them face tattoos for literally the entire industry Zoomers grew up with.

>>15081
>a "influential" black artist takes a stab at it and is labeled a fucking genius revolutionary for producing the most basic bitch version of that music.
gaslight

>men will usually "deep dive" into at least one genre and find pretty complex stuff that they get very "autistic" about

gatekeep

>trends in the industry became dominated by women

girlboss


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