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 No.520686

wow, the roman empire, Rome was invaded and sacked by people who look like this???

 No.520688

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Goths don't listen to black metal, that third girl is just a poseur.

 No.520691

>>520688
Exactly
But thats also why goths are better, since black metal is just anti-musical nonsense

 No.520692

>>520688
yeah they listen to bauhaus or siouxsie and the banshees, and when i recommend carpenter brut to them, they call the police

 No.520695

>>520692
they expect you to invite them to a murder spree in animal masks

 No.520698

>>520695
i'm more of an ultrakill person

 No.520700

>>520698
i tried cruelty squad the other day but couldn't comprehend what the fuck is going on

 No.520809

>>520692
They are right, Carpenter Brut is ass these days

 No.520812

>>520686
>mallgoth

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 No.521071

>>520692
carpenter brut is tedious one-dimensional video game music. they call police to pull a prank on a normie.

 No.521210

>>520691
It's rare seeing nazis with this take

 No.521213

>mall goth

RTVRN

 No.521214

Thesis: Rome
Antithesis: Goths.
Synthesis: Spain.

 No.521222

>>521071
they have the best maniac cover to date

 No.521233

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>>520688
post more goth on roman violence

 No.521248

>>521210
I remember hanging out in a nazi fbi.gov server and they made fun of me cos i kept sharing pop songs instead of black metal acoustic vomit
I think its just a scene though
Like, do people really like that shit?
The only okay stuff i listened to was from burzum and glistening

 No.521259

>>521248
The fact there are black metalfags out here that have the gall to make fun of punk for not being about music when their music is not about music. My friend was a metalhead that i have a feeling was forcing herself to listen to that ahit just so she could call herself goth. Took the tradpill and dissapeared off the earth later so good riddance i guess.

 No.521266

>>521248
Black metal is very diverse, there's good stuff out there.

 No.521290

>>521266
Give some examples
>>521259
A lot of goths are christians so it makes sense
But scene people will always be bandwagoners anyway

 No.521295

>>521290
nah I only listen to the shitty ones

 No.521298

>>521295
Why? Is it like namefag was saying, that you are part of an aesthetic experience more than you enjoy the music, or you really like the music?
And no offense, but if you like that stuff then you might have brain damage or something.
I remember telling the nazis that Der Fuehrer listened to wagner and his favourite movie was snow white. One person interested me when he said black metal is a sublation of wagner, but i dont buy it.

 No.521299

>>521298
>I remember telling the nazis that Der Fuehrer listened to wagner and his favourite movie was snow white.
This is what's always been hard for me to understand about nazis, the OGs all loved things to be traditional, modest and humble but the modern ones seem to be torn between wanting to look badass and avant-garde and wanting to be perceived as "normal" and to represent the common man. I have noticed this split on /pol/ as well. There seem to be almost daily shitflinging threads between magafags and tradcaths on one side and esoteric hitlerists and stormfags om the other. This seems to me like one of the bigger contradictions but I never could be arsed to make a thread about it.

 No.521303

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>>521298
I listen to it because it's cool with the kids!

 No.521304

>>521303
>unalive your eyes

How the fuck did this shit even make it into our day to day language???

 No.521310

>>521299
I largely come out of the nazi satanist scene so i can see how edginess begets itself. I still consider myself sinister, but my music taste has always been more joyful than ideologically demonic. I think its a contradiction between depression and vitalism, where i'm never depressed, but most people who embrace evil are. Thats why i say there is a syzygy to darkness, where in the shadow you have the penumbra and umbra. Drawing into the centre leads you to the "outside" by geometric analogy (of the "origin" of a circle being the zero-point of the axes, and the exterior also being equal to zero - but a vital void of virtuality), and this is also sacred geometry and its relation to the black sun (as our life force).
>This seems to me like one of the bigger contradictions but I never could be arsed to make a thread about it.
Its the contradiction of the right in general, that we represent reaction, but also possess a virtual revolution in our immanence. I would contend however that in both cases we are anti-political, in the same way that an insurrectionary anarchist is anti-political. There is no right-wing project, there are only anti-leftist projects.

 No.521314

>>521310
>Thats why i say there is a syzygy to darkness, where in the shadow you have the penumbra and umbra. Drawing into the centre leads you to the "outside" by geometric analogy (of the "origin" of a circle being the zero-point of the axes, and the exterior also being equal to zero - but a vital void of virtuality), and this is also sacred geometry and its relation to the black sun (as our life force).

What tendency of satanism do you follow? I have not seen this concept discussed in traditional laVeyan doctrine so I assume this to be either more recent or syncretic stuff written by the O9A. Or is this the original pagan concept for the black sun?

 No.521315

>>521304
Because of video sharing sites guidelines making it impossible to say words like kill or murder.

 No.521339

>>521304
The algorithm will hide your post or even suspend you for using words like "kill" so users had to create their own neologisms.

 No.521340

>>521213
I miss fluffy hair so much.

 No.521369

>>521314
I would say my understanding is more "occult" than strictly satanic, since satanism tends to reject occult themes and just reverse things (which is lavey's contention in the satanic bible, that occultists are white magicians and have no affinity for the dark arts, which lavey scarcely lays out, but references how the sinister power of a black ritual is about harnessing the "electromagnetic" suffering of a creature more than its blood. Blood magic(k) to lavey is white magic(k)). O9A is "hermetic" by this same standard, and not just a philosophy of evil (especially if you just read david myatt's work - he is more of that "trad" wholesome nazi than a black metal kind).
Only tendencies like the noctulianism/vampirism of ToB is purely satanic, and i do find appeal in this, since it is dealing with spiritual evil and not just anti-christianity. It is about the powers of darkness before and after humanity, so it is qlippothic in this way. The theory-fiction of "iron gates" for example is about a post-apocalyptic wasteland populated by absolutely evil sorcerers who churn people up to feed the dark gods. It reminds me of the masterpiece "mad god" (2021) that everyone should see. I see my mission in life as analogous to this, but in the form of dark art and poetry, where i seek to capture the "dark logos" of dionysus rather than sink into the insectoid subhumanity of cybelean priesthood (see: the roman emporer Elagabalus).
>Or is this the original pagan concept for the black sun?
I would say it is a preconception of that black sun, but also my own creation, but my quest began with the sacred (infernal) geometry of "the order of the trapezoid" collaborated on by anton lavey and michael aquino (before the order became a transitionary institution to aquino's temple of set). The symbolic rite of this order is actually part of "the satanic rituals" (a text written by lavey and aquino), which describes the "9 angles" of the trapezoid, which circulate the power of darkness in a circuit of evil genius. These are the derivative "9 angles" of O9A (but anton long changes their meaning to refer to an alchemical symbol instead).
But if you look at picrel you can see how the inverted divinity is voided, but in its absence, it enters into manifestation by the elements.
Around this time i was also pondering the mystery of rebirth and connected this with the winter solstice, and how the sun dies, but is reborn 3 days later (which is traced in the resurrection of christ, and why his (re)"birthday" is christmas). This story is also tied to the myth that christ goes to hell and is rejuvenated from this experience (like dante ascending to heaven after getting to the bottom of hell - which ties in with my geometry about the origin point).
The point basically is that Hell is the power of vitality, which replenishes the sun each year through its harvesting of darkness to itself. I learned this from walter russell's "secrets of light", where he explains that all light is inverted darkness. So light comes from an inversion of darkness, like life comes from an inversion of death. This to me (in conjunction with the taurus field) showed me how darkness is the essence of existence. This primordial darkness is the black sun, and its providential purpose is to find expression in the world through dark beauty (NOT ugliness, and ugliness is black metal, which is *part* of darkness, obviously, but true darkness is tragic, not idiotic).
This is why in my hegelian way, i see the fullness of evil, given to its truth, in the satanic ritual, or a work of art, or literature. Evil has no meaning without self-relation. This is because evil is not mere *pain*, but is the gaze of *suffering* as a qualitative supplement. Evil is Abstract, and lives in Fear, and Awe, like the great Night which preceded the Titans. Evil is the vanity of Nature which must be brought into universal form.

 No.521371

>>521369
I also do take much aesthetic and occult sensibility from O9A. My feeling is for example that darkness is the very site of Psyche (in the jungian sense) and that the dark gods are contacted in darkness because this is the domain of the acausal (where darkness bleeds itself into itself, so as to conjoin essences into totality, and this is the same thing as the spontaneous relation of acausality). We get tired in the dark because this the power of Psyche impressing itself on consciousness, and so on.
also there is the part in the epic of gilgamesh where its said to him that he will achieve the secrets of immortality if he stays up for 9 days straight. This is breaking the ego to give deliverance to psyche. The operations of the sinister tarot are also supposed to work to give archetypal correspondence to our unconscious. My first blood sacrifice was to the goddess Baphomet for example, the mother of blood

 No.521373

>>521369
Saved. Thanks for the elaboration. I will make sure to read into this as a lot of the concepts seem to be more logical than the original atheistic satanism codified by the likes of Anton. Another thing i wanna know is the concept of profanity. You mentioned this in the "reversing" part but I know a lot of those who worship evil as a distinct force or quality seem to uphold the christian dogma that everything they do is the "profane" of the opposite thing in abrahamism aka the turning inside out of christian symbols and practices. They say that those things get their meaning from their "oppositeness" to something else. This is intwresting as it would explain the "anti leftism" ting you mentioned in another post. Interesting writeup.

 No.521376

>>521340
I don't, i hate it. Best trend in fashion in decades.

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 No.521379

>>521377
>AI slop

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 No.521392

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>>521380
Truly a built different type

 No.521415

>>521373
>They say that those things get their meaning from their "oppositeness" to something else. This is intwresting as it would explain the "anti leftism" ting you mentioned in another post. Interesting writeup.
Some gnostic sect centuries ago also had this idea that because the demiurge (creator) is evil, they should reverse all of the moral prohibitions to be able to escape the grasp of him. So rape, murder and so on became sacraments in the rites of salvation.
You'll notice that no typical satanist is this extreme, and really just posit a political anti-christianity so they can be ugly fat lesbians or transhumanists or whatever. In this way, it is truly an anti-spiritual principle, but also, you lose the sacred (which i guess is the point?)
I think what i want to preserve is something positive; something sacred in evil (where even "necessary evil" comes to mind). I remember some o9a guy trying to preserve a satanic canon by citing that quote from anton lavey about black magick, but the character of lavey is lacking, and he was just a performance artist (but did you know that he also interacted with and praised neo-nazi james mason by signing his copy of the satanic bible?)
Like all wisdom teaches us, there is something fundamentally deceptive and lacking in the sinister path (even take the analogy of the sith, how evil must always destroy evil - or think of how criminals will always kill other criminals - hell hath no bottom).
So im not optimistic, and i do permeate in a sort of impotent rebellion, like the devil himself who is scheduled to be sent to hell at the end of time. But my artistic dream is to establish a black lodge of fellow travellers. A sort of illuminati that takes its religiousness seriously.
But like the right, it has no permanent grounding because it is held in negation - this is true for modernity, which spiritualises "the reign of quantity" in the left, where progress only creates rebels - and where in the end, science will turn against all of humanity itself. So to me, evil and the right are bound up in the same self-defence, and thats my political subjectivity, which is why i think nazi satanism is becoming more popular, since it is pure negation - and in the end i do think evil will be the sovereign defence of life itself (against the machine), and the dam will break.
And if not, then we will have human extinction, so who cares what comes after. So evil to me is the secret saviour (anti-christ) that all free spirits will worship at the end of time against the slavery of global civilisation (the universal church).

 No.521493

I want a chubby goth gf

 No.521495

>>521493
even if her butt is on backwards?

 No.521602


 No.521603

>>521495
Especially.

 No.521605

SACKS WITH THE VISIGOTHS

 No.521606

>>521605
Big sacks visigoth gf

 No.521607


 No.521672

I want H-cup tiddie goths

 No.521717

>>521415
I think the thing is the atheistic model and materialism doesn't escape the sacred, Reza is amazing on this and ccru was truly a ungodly experiment in this aspect, great though kind of fucked up

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>>521717
Well, i think there are contradictions in this, where satanism is generally a movement of anti-sacrality; or a religion of the carnal. But within the satanic is the *demonic*, which is more positivistic (ontologically and practically), where the powers become more *particular* rather than universal (as in the case of the satanic, which is a negative universalism, and why it tends towards the left).
The demonic on the other hand deals with "entities" and powers of summoning based around magick (and not just invocation). The CCRU is clearly demonic in its structure (even with its holy number being 666), with its deleuzean praxis of actualising the virtual (from sigils and whatnot - i would also argue that technology is also demonic by harvesting spirits, like solomon enslaving demons within magic circles. This power again has a universal and particular character, where demons have their own personal Will, but are all enclosed in the bounds of the power of death, which is negative to life, and why *technically* [see: spengler and heidegger] technology fights the organic as a "living death". Marx also talks about this, how capital is the rule of the machine, and nick land jumps off from this).
My patron demon has always been Choronzon (333) since i was a young thelemite, and it shocked me when i learned that Tempel ov Blood (an organisation that wanted to go beyond good and evil) used this demon, and so did nick land to further their work. But since crowley's presencing of Choronzon, IT has always possessed a prefigiration of hindsight, when crowley discovered that 333 also equals "dispersion" which was the unconscious attachment crowley gave this being. Nick Land too uses 333 as a signature because "The Dark Enlightenment" apparently equals to this (in his own system of gematria) and when promped he had the realisation of its relation to Choronzon. I have a revelation about this too however, where "The Dark Enlightenment" in english ordinal gematria (my preferred system), equals 213, which is the number of minutes in 3 hours and 33 minutes - 3:33, the same as nick's pfp. So here we see the immanence of this being in the world, and that is its positive content.
But can Satan or Evil *generally* ever be positive? I think these are too abstract to be "practiced" entities and remain universal concepts, which draw things to their self-completion, which sadly invites the atheists and ugly freaks to compete for it.
But the dialectics here line up well, that within the universal form of the satanic is the content of the demonic. We can also see a shape here akin to the local pagan city states as opposed to the institutionalisation of monotheism in the roman church.
I would argue that the project of universalism (leftism) is inherently christian in this way, where satanists are more *anti-christians* and so are held in negative identity to it, and so cannot transcend the duality, where only a "polytheism" of demonism can, as a sublation of the christian myth.

 No.521817

>>521607
is she peeing?

 No.521994

>>521392
they call it frontbutt

 No.521996

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>>521803
>electricity passing through logic gates = demons
<*hits blunt once* woaah dude what if like logic gates were like magic runes but REAL
meds

 No.521997

>>521996
its spelled "daemon"

 No.521999

>>521997
Dämon like damn on?

 No.522121

>>521996
Well, beings can be summoned just from chalk in a wall, since "magic" proper has its derivation in geometry as an arithmetical science. So, in the same way, the interface of digital technologies amounts to just putting things in order - like how a magic spell usually has to be pronounced properly (which i would argue comes from the latin mass, and latin generally as a phonetic language, where english is always seen to be an un-magical mess. I got into an argument once with someone who claimed that hebrew, latin and arabic are magical languages because… they are? And english isnt, because… it isnt? My findings in english ordinal gematria speak differently to this common prejudice though. Magic knows no bounds.)
>>521997
A "daemon" is very different from a demon. A daemon is pre-christian just refers to invisible entities, like socrates' muse. A demon takes on a Spiritual renewal under christianity, as "familiar spirits" or "ghosts" or discarnate intelligences, which are the lingering souls of the nephilim (or what some render as the pagan heroes).

 No.522127

>>522121
Daemons are background UNIX processes

 No.522130

>>522127
G/acc gang?

 No.522379

>>522130
more injoke about maxwell's demon who works tirelessly in the background. Kinda like the greeks believed.


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