No.524594
abolition of the family when
No.524605
>>524593It's almost like social relations are driven by material conditions and that contemporary material conditions make familial relationships far less important than they once were, for better and for worse.
No.524607
what's up with that webm
No.524608
>>524594Will never happen
No.524613
>>524608not on our lifetimes, but if we become machine, and thus immortal, we could wait to see it
No.524629
>>524605yeah, this kind of nepotistic mutual aid is like one of the key reasons why people stick to their families. it's kind of soulless but you'll have a difficult time surviving in a country that doesn't have strong welfare without some sort of community to fall back on so you don't end up getting randomly fucked and go homeless, and the family is one of the few communities capitalism allows you to build by necessity of the way people breed
No.524642
>>524594>>524608>>524613anglos translating it as abolition instead of sublation was a mistake
No.524649
>>524642um le aufheben dialectic maga com
No.524652
>>524649Stop being dense. The abolition of these structures and forms of life will be a by-product of the abolition of bourgeois society as a whole, just like the abolition of religion. Marxists relate their existence and functioning to the economic organization of society and thereby their abolition with the abolition of this organization in its concrete totality. Anarchists on the other hand proceed from a priori, moralist, abstract categories rather than classes and production. For them the family, school, church etc are 'bad' or 'evil' because they restrict an arbitrarily defined 'freedom' or impose some 'authority' or 'hierarchy'. Such vulgarizations will never lead to a coherent, scientific understanding and consequently never lead to the actual, real-life abolition of these structures of oppression.
No.524654
>>524593Children are indeed an oppressed group (group not class), the family and school are inherently exploitative institutions designed to restrict free human development for the sake of reproducing bourgeois relations. For millions they can leave permanent scars for their entire life.
No.524658
>>524652i wasn't really making a point, but i feel like you're misrepresenting marxism here. marxism does progress from abstract models of political economy, and it does so to pretty great and applicable ends, but if we're talking about orthodox marxism there was a bunch of stuff that m&e did kind of take as an assumption and did not bother to investigate further, even within the limits and the intellectual landscape they were working with. their work isn't really totalizing