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You want to talk about a weird juxtaposition. I dated a woman who was a, I was going to say another way you could put it, a gooner. Super hypersexual. Had an OnlyFans. Loved making content for it. Loved doing it. I don't think that, I don't think that there was any other job that she was better suited for because she, before she was a teacher and then she quit her job to do OnlyFans and is making less money. That's what she wants to do. Then I'm going to support it. And you know, so constantly watching pornography. I mean, she would text me, hey, you want to come over and get off? And we're not even fucking for the majority of that time. Very strange. But I guess the weirdest juxtaposition was I don't really watch pornography because I am not an idiot. And I know that it's impossible to consent under capitalism. And I know that the majority of people are in the adult film industry are trafficked, abused, and not there willingly. That porn is designed for the male gaze and objectifies women. But the thing is I'm a dude, man, she's a woman. And she's super into it, super into the industry, wants to get into it, wants to, you know, do a full time. It doesn't make sense to me. It really doesn't, not at all.
>>664936Only straight guys are simps. You don't need to spend money, but it can be part of it. You shower her with attention in an attempt to hopefully be the next guy or because you have no other females in your life that give you a crumb of attention. See also: Orbiter, Friendzone
Gay guys and women have sex.
>>664780I have no idea where these fantasies come from. I have a very wide social sphere. I know many men who are below 6ft and still get laid. Honestly, as im thinking about it, all my male friends have long term relationships or atleast get laid. A lot of them are pretty unpleasant looking people by my eyes. The important thing though that the women say they are attracted to are:
1: They are interested in things outside of the relationship. They have passions and it is cute to see them be excited about them.
2: They treat life with a bit of whimsy. They aren't serious all the time and are excited to try new things and experience new experiences.
3: They have friends with which they are able to talk to about their feelings so that the entire weight of the mans emotional regulation is not on the partner.
I don't get who these people are that have such trouble meeting new people, even less the people in picrel who make up these wee stories like they are playing with dolls acting out the most depressing tale to justify their own learned helplessness
>>665183I watch Zoomer Trader videos on youtube, and recently started lurking r/shotguys. I dislike there seems to be no blackpill community that isnt misogynist.
>>665217Whats your issue with it?
>>665294the whole concept of incel is misogynistic.
>>665303>proggressive feminist beliefssuch as? how progressive can your beliefs be when they attract misogynists
>>665307Blackpill is based around the observation that women are also sexual beings, they have their own desires, exercise their agency, seek pleasure, in contrast with more tradition conception of women as passive, frigid, pure. Redpill guys and normies both believe that women have to be basically tricked or brided into having sex with men, while blackpillers are genuine believers in enthusiastic consent, anything less does not really count in their eyes. But being aware of this, while also not being the one who gets picked by women, breeds resentment, towards oneself and towards women.
>>665358>>665362That's why
Asian and White women can't be revolutionaries.
>>665357I really fucking
hate South Korea. All they are is a combination of the worst of Japan, the worst of burgerville dialed up to 11.
>>665478LMFAO what, the poster is 100% right in what commodity fetishism means.
< As against this, the commodity-form, and the value-relation of the products of labour, within which it appears, have absolutely no connection with the physical nature of the commodity and the material relations arising out of this. It is nothing but the definite social relation, between men, themselves, which assumes here, for them, the fantastic form of a relation between things. In order, therefore, to find an analogy, we must take flight into the misty realm of religion. There the products of the human brain appear as autonomous figures endowed with a life of their own, which enter into relations, both with each other and with the human race. So it is in the world of commodities with the products of men's hands. I call this the fetishism which attaches itself to the products of labour as soon as they are produced as commodities, and is, therefore, inseparable from the production of commodities.Illiterate leftard moment.
>>665544damn,
astounding dubs, dr.mop!!! You should rape the rape poster back
Yall need to stop posting blackpill rage bait like
>>664780If you touch grass for even a second to go to a job where you interact with the public youd realize most women aren't like this.
>>664545You can get more easily aroused from kissing than from even a handjob.
For me I also find that kissing while in mating press position makes me go beast mode.
Like I'm possessed.
Kisses can be affectionate or erotic.
>>665290I honestly believe the vast majority of humanitarian problems all start at home. And a lot of times dysfunctional families are the result of incompetent adults feeling entitled to make new life without any moral or ethical training prior.
Society recklessly promotes relationships as incentive for people to breed. To make more cattle for the system.
>>664553Its been that way for at least three generations. Glorification of awkwardness and unworldliness.
Any precocious/worldly/cynical desire or talent is pathologised
>>665761Moid falseflag. A woman would just say taller, not taller
and stronger.
>>665768Typical. The biggest moralfaggots are always the senior bad boys.
>>665778Probably.
>>665770This.
>>666006>>666015>>666001The amount of seethe this shit generates lmao.
Don't get me wrong, I am an incel too, but I realized I needed to look inward at some point. It's my fault I don't have the courage to approach women. I had the choice to move on from my past trauma and failures, but I chose to sulk and ruin my teens and early 20s instead. Women can behave as cruel and obtuse as they want because they have options, I can't expect them to change because the vast majority of people never change or introspect. And as far as crystal cafe retardation goes, it is just another flavour of cruel cuckservative shitlibbery that people have to deal with. Don't be mistaken, their form of "feminism" very much relies on the existence of traditional patriarchal norms, they just aim to gain a better position within the system.
>>666292do not, just send normie memes
and used condoms, the amount of cum to your taste
>>666441Interesting = abnormal = probably mentally damaged
Interesting people make good friends and terrible partners.
>>666441Women's appropriation of incel rhetoric is pathetic because it contradicts reality. Literal white papers exist detailing how much easier it is for women to find partners than men. Outside of that, any rational person is aware of this. For a woman to be unable to find a partner means that she is either exclusively chasing the top 10% of men (typical), or is incredibly ugly (to the point of extreme deformity). Women hate incels because they project the former onto them, assuming that partnerless men are that way by choice and not systemic issues.
Also, why didn't she just initiate conversation with men? When I go out as a man, I assume that no women (excluding prostitutes) will approach me. So, I approach women. Also, also, she describes herself as the life of the party. I'm sure that was true in her mind, but in actuality she was probably just really annoying (hence no man approaching her). Also, also, also, her post is black woman-coded, which adds another dimension. Collectively, black women are the Benjamin Franklin of misandry, and the "intellectual" types who use psuedo-academic terminology to justify their mental illness are the most annoying to be around and are generally chasing white men anyway. That, and black women are disproportionately fat; additionally, if she is from Africa, she probably wears shitty wigs (you're not fooling anybody). Also, also, also, also, why the fuck are women so obsessed with hobbies? How many sports do I have to play to entitle me to some pussy? At what point do I cross the threshold of having read enough books suck on some some titties? What distance hike do I have to complete before women are obligated to suck my dick?How about women expand their worldview by dating outside the top 10% of men, which disproportionately favors white men (not unlike capitalists to nation-states, women have no loyalty to men of their race).
Mods will delete this post because it's too based and criticizing women is not allowed (she won't fuck you btw).
I hate to be that way, but a "redpill" would save all these incels and femcels.
>>666464>it is the same with guys, most people are superficial, I don't know why stating this has become a tabooEveryone is a Disney adult now or something.
I think everyone would be better off without the gaslighting. You could try and become more attractive, through: grooming, hygeine, working out, fashion sense. Also don't just "be yourself" yourself isn't that interesting and possibly annoying and off-putting. You can take proactive steps to get better results. After you do your best, you see what the best you can get is when you go out and apply it and you need to deal with that.
>>666475>lso don't just "be yourself" yourself isn't that interesting and possibly annoying and off-putting.Here is some real advice how to get better socially.
>First, do what is expected of you.Just say and do the basic robotic actions thar expected.
>be a good listenerAsk simple followup questions to what is said to you to appear that you give a fuxk what the other person is saying to you and you are internalizing it.
Where all those pua's fuckup is they tell you to play a character. Everyone had their own subjective tastes, but everyone subjectively loves themself. The more you get a person talking about themselves the better. Don't seem nosey or judgemental. Keep them talking and disclosing and you can make anyone your's.
>>667312>>667318shit what do you want us to say, if you feel this is all that's left to get you sexo in the meatspace go for it what's stopping you, bleach your skin and become giga aryan boytoy like this
>>665357there was already white people racially converting to korean so it's not like the tools aren't online for you, get a cream and bleach, get a plastic surgeon happy to monetize what you belief is the lost puzzle to get attention and desire from the opposite and same sex, not a personality but a made up nationality, go to a map of europe and throw a dart on whitoid nation of your choice russia ireland who the fuck cares, learn the manners, build a fake persona from scratch put red dye on your head do what you got to do
>>667331was about to give a serious answer, but this anon kinda said what i wanted to say: from personal experience, those who hook up regularly, are first and foremost good liars and super confident in their own bullshit.
From personal experience i can say that all people in my social circle who were into hook-up culture never impressed me as more happy or content. They usually have quite a lot of stress getting rid of whoever they picked up and lost interest in.
>>667333trips of truth right there
in my experience dating is just like working in politics, you'll go far easier if you look the part and lie a lot to your voters also known as dates, you just need to take care of your appearance and appear exactly as your date wants, so just like american politics you need that voter intrest in you
>>667502i hope you spend zero on curing vd
the first time i rented a hooker for the equivalent of ninety dollars i just wanted to talk but she was so turned on she wanted to fuck while talking
>>667505horny fucker lol, it's in west asia but if you want cheap foreign sex go to vietnam, you'll find the prices even more cheaper than my cunt. one burger voucher equals 25.000 dongs
>>667582I think these whores are even more willing to hook up with lamer and uglier motherfuckers. It's like once you cross the threshold:
>I'm in love with you anon….You can't get no pussy. I guess I could and ditch them but I'm too soft. I'm just like damn bitch, you fuck so many motherfuckers, and you won't fuck me because I'm too good to you or too attractive?
>>667505>>667510Thai women are the best value for your buck, they generally give great GFE and actually enjoy sex. Yesterday I unintentionally spent most of the day with a Thai hooker and she didn't even charge me (although I gave her about $80USD anyway).
Vietnamese hookers are the opposite. They're clock watchers and generally give mediocre service. They really like to remind you how much contempt they have for you and how undesirable you are, it it makes me want to rope. There's this one Vietnamese hooker I see infrequently that got angry at me once because I wasn't fucking her to her liking. A literal hooker was bitching at me like we were in a dying, dysfunctional relationship. Not to mention Vietnamese people's tendency to scam in general.
>>667567this is cope
americans can easily buy a house and a car before their 30s. only reason zoomies cope about it is because they dont want to work
>>667655if you people would go outside more often you'd see these women get wasted, hang around all night and in the end getting picked up by some definitely not chad because chads are a miniscule fraction of males.
nothing stops you from wasting your nights in shitty bars to 'explore your sexuality', as if fucking some random while being shit faced was the greatest thing ever.
>>667745always amazing how in these conversations the goal post keeps moving up until it's all about having a 10/10 fuck slave.
there would be an interesting discussion about so many topics, yet, it comes down to entitlement and delusion.
>>667768<Just hang around in an ear piercingly loud room full of drunk people for about 5 hours in hopes of getting a crumb of 4/10 (at best) pussy.Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather fuck a hooker and be in bed tipsy and satisfied by like 10pm. Having sex shouldn't be a full time job that requires me to jester and buy drinks/food all night.
>goal post keeps moving up until it's all about having a 10/10 fuck slave.<You're hungry, just eat that hotdog on the ground!I know my worth. Stop trying to psyop people into fucking uggos and perpetuating hoeflation. I have a good job, college education, and am decently attractive. I shouldn't be at the mercy of bar goblins for sexual relief.
>entitlement and delusionThe average woman is way more delusional and entitled than the average man. Every woman delusionally pursues Chad, as is evident by research done on dating apps.
>"Dating apps aren't real life bro!!!" Apps are the most common medium for people to meet now, and you'd be hard pressed to find a young person who hasn't used them in the past (and thus been influenced by them). Regardless, as stated previously, I don't expect Stacy, but I do expect something better than a bar goblin. Pursuing the aforementioned is stupid because at the end of the day, I'm sacrificing both my dignity and money, it makes more sense to just fuck a hooker. Think about it this way, if I make $15 an hour and spend 5 hours chasing a bar goblin, I've already wasted $75 before accounting for food and drink. By the end of the night I would have spent around $125. You can fuck a hooker in most large cities for that amount and save some hours (btw I make more than $15 an hour but inserting realistic numbers would fuck up the equation).
>>667798Exactly, feminists hate when men have standards because it undermines their position in the sexual marketplace. Behavior which mimics a certain dynamic exhibited by a group within Marx's writings
>>667798fair enough, i was polemic for you brought the perceived attractiveness into the conversation, which wasn't part before. which is a fair point in itself, self respect and all that. it comes down to ones own decision/preferences then, which no one else can be made accountable for.
agree regarding busting a nut instead btw. it's faster, cheaper and probably also better than some rando drunktard.
>>667818Where's the lie? And where's the misogyny? I honestly think women don't even know what misogyny means anymore. They just hear people say it, like how it sounds, and assume it means "any man who isn't a simp." Nothing I said is worse than what the average woman says about men. Seriously, quote anything that's misogynistic about what I said.
>highlighting his social status multiple If I requested a woman ignore that and fuck me anyway, I'd be called an entitled incel. Frankly, why should I settle to voluntarily fuck an ugly poor drunkard? Give me a good reason. Next time a Stacy rejects me, I'll be sure to lecture her on Marxist values and explain how she should fuck me anyway to undermine the bourgeoisie or some shit.
I will admit that not literally "every" woman peruses Chad (although this should be reasonably inferred. Some women genuinely aren't like that. However, most women are. Some also pragmatically repent later in life when their plans didn't work and they realize they fucked up and are in urgent need of betabux.
>>667846How tall are you?
>>667849Idk if he is white, but she is AI filtering him into an asian character.
>>667809>Apps are the most common medium for people to meet nowNot true. You are delusional if you think "met online" is just a euphemism for hookup apps.
>>667827>where's the misogyny>Every woman delusionally pursues Chad>I have a good job, college education, and am decently attractive. I shouldn't be at the mercy of bar goblins for sexual relief.>>667815Natty GOD.
>>667818>>667768>always amazing how in these conversations the goal post keeps moving up until it's all about having a 10/10 fuck slave.>there would be an interesting discussion about so many topics, yet, it comes down to entitlement and delusion.Such as what? We already have dozens of threads to go on and on about how you are in love with this e-thot or not.
Sometimes the odd guy blows through saying he's got a girlfriend or a date, or some girl he's crushing on and everyone gives them good advice. I was helping out that Frenchie who said he had some crush he hadn't contacted in awhile, and we were all trying to convince him to ask her out before he decided that he is too cowardly to do that.
>>667853>>where's the misogynyWhat do you think you are helping by just blowing through and calling everyone a misogynist? Why is it even your business, you're not even into women.
<Natty GOD. >>667857I know a dude who got his haed split open by an accident and the doctors had to glue his skull back together when he was 17. He's permanently disfigured.
Now he's 60 with grandaugthers. It's all presentation.
>>667931For the record I don't care about her much but it's odd. Nothing specific happened and I have nothing to hide.
I want to know if this is a sign like "hey I exist!" or something, women can be weird
>>667539>>667541Why are we discriminating against men who aren't tall as if though they're diseased?
>>667896Why don't you apply this rationale to misogyny posts then?
>>667896>>667896 >>667894all men are guilty until proven guilty of being filthy men
they all must die
>>667930 (me)
>>667933 (me)
Some time ago she used to like my stories for a while and even DM'd me but I figured she was just being friendly and nothing happened. She knew I liked her friend back then so it may have had to do with that.
And she's not some femcel or something, she's extremely attractive and I'm puzzled why I could possibly occupy any kind of space in her mind. Whatever the nature of it I did nothing but exist
>>667942I lean towards that but you don't do that to people you aren't at least remotely emotionally invested in.
Really a follow is the cheapest thing there is and that's like making a statement. If you told me she was a random girl I met a week ago I'd get it but she's not
>>667938Misandry is mainly projection at this point. Not unlike misogyny.
I find it funny that this post thinks that only women can be victims.
>>668345Can you believe the initial reason they wantwd to impeach Trump was because of the Stormy Daniels incident?
Like bruh, they were consenting and it was more than ten years ago at the time
>>668238>I would like to sleep in separate beds tooNormalize this for young people. Boomers have it figured out, but every time I've suggested this to my gf she would flip her shit even though neither of us gets good sleep quality together. I can only sleep soundly with someone when I am knocked the fuck out from like 4 hours of nonstop raving or equivalent.
>>668511>tinder>relationshipFound your problem.
>>668513I honestly don't know. During the dates he seemed very interested. I even told him I didn't understand his messaging, and he responded insisting he wanted to see me. What I suspect is, he likes me but not enough for something serious. Just as a friend or a date he goes out with from time to time.
>>668201?????? What?
>>668515>Found your problem.It's no easy meeting gays to date seriously.
>>668532Cishet folks have the same problem as well.
But they also have the extra problem of whenever they do settle, it ends up in total dysfunction.
>>668515Fucking this. Even as a kid I always wondered why the hell are spouses expected to sleep in the same bed all the time?
I had to temporarily camp out with some older dude who was too touch starved. Constantly trying to fondle me and wanting to cuddle and stuff. Hes no creep though. Its just that because we were freinds he thought it was ok and I put up with it then. But now whenever he asks for cuddles I say no. Especially since he coughs and sneezes a lot and drinks a lot too.
😫😫
Could I ask some non-romantic relationship advice here? It concerns my roommate.
So I (36 cis F) have absolutely had it with my roommate (28 cis F). Both of us are anarchists living in a city where rent prices are sky-high. My roommate, whom I'll just call "Tina" to protect her identity, has become unbearable. Tina has autism, bipolar disorder, C-PTSD, and a slew of other mental health issues. She takes about seven different medications daily. She is prone to emotional control issues and most times I talk to her I feel like I'm walking ouyghshells. Every single little thing sets her off into a fit of emotional rage. She yells at me at least once a day, many times over something small like me forgetting to buy oat milk or asking her to clean the toilet this week. She is also a recovering addict (she got addicted to opioids while in high school, went to rehab, relapsed a few years ago, and is currently trying to stay clean) which only adds to her issues. She can't work at all due to her autism and mental health downfall. She used to do sex work but stopped after a client abused her so badly she had to go to the hospital. Last year I agreed to let her live with me because I've known her for almost 10 years. Her mother kicked her out and her brother is married with kids of his own and doesn't want to have to deal with his sister. But at this point, I can't live with her anymore. I make all the money to support both her and me. I do the grocery shopping for the both of us. I pay for most of her medication. I feel like I'm more of a mother than a friend to her, and given her emotional issues and how entitled she is I feel like I shouldn't have to be around her anymore. Yet, I feel like I'd be a "bad anarchist" if I told her to leave, since I'm supposed to be all about mutual aid and community care. Plus, I invited her to let her stay with me in the first place out of pity.
How do I tell her I want her gone? She's never going to change, her mental health will never improve, and she's basically a parasite on me at this point.
>>668753It's not good to spread personal affairs in a professional environment. What if you guys have a problem? You will have to face each other at work.
There's a reason that people date outside of work
>>668218That's how most marriages operated like.
It was about financial security.
That narrative changed around the nineteenth century, when romance became the motive for marriage.
The only genuine relationships are friends and family (birth or adapted)
>>667671If that's the case, explain why many homeowners often have to downgrade and live in apartments due to not affording mortgage anymore.
Also, genpol is not acceptable. Especially since millennials were accused of laziness and entitlement.
>>668614>since I'm supposed to be all about mutual aid and community careComrade, I'm not an anarchist but this doesn't sound either mutual or community.
I know that doesn't really help, I don't know the right way to tell someone they need to be gone, but I need to emphasize that this idea of 'being a bad anarchist' seems like idealism. One could just as easily say that enabling them to drain your emotional, mental and financial resources is also 'being a bad anarchist'. I'm only saying that for the sake of making this point:
there's no winning if one judges themselves by that kind of abstract purity mindset, you ultimately need to approach this pragmatically rather than through ideal values. And maybe I'm preaching to the choir here, you recognize this relationship is parasitic.
>>668614>>668766>These are normie problems, but I feel like you might need legal action in this absolutely fucked case. > I guess you can plead your case to her mom instead of a restraining order. You are right about probably need for legal action, but she will also probably have to officially file an eviction notice. I don't know how this works in every state, but in some, depending on how long they've lived there, you will need to serve them an eviction notice 1-3 months in advance. If the person has proof that they've taken male at your residence, even if they never paid rent, you have to go through all the eviction process as if you were a landlord. Even the cops will say they can't make them leave.
T. stupidly took in someone out of the goodness of my heart who played that game before and was to prepared to pull all these games and try and stretch out how long they could mooch until finding the next sucker.
>>668308lmao legalized sex
>>6687892
75kg, 215 with my shoes off. Two penises btw, one functional, the other just dribbles pee a bit. >>668768This TBH.
I know we all like to romanticize having cutthroat principles but in the real world pragmatism will always take precedent.
>>667494>>667486>>667486>>667483>>667485This. Most lower class Americans habe no money for the rent or utility but they always have new toys to play with.
>>667494With a few exceptions, such as Eminem and MC Hammer, most of the OG generation of rappers were not from the streets. At least not the way their songs portrayed them as.
>>668923>I say confront her (you can invite other comrades to join you for moral support) and explain to her that her behaviour needs to change or else she has to leave and find someone else to be her caregiver.Having a heart-to-heart discussion doesn't work with an autistic person. Autistic people usually have very rigid, black-and-white thinking and have extreme difficulty understanding nuance. If an autistic person thinks they've done nothing wrong, even after you've pointed out what they've done wrong to them multiple times, they will defend themselves to the death regardless of what the facts show. They also do not believe their actions have real consequences. Higher needs autistic people usually have no real sense of danger and will often times run into oncoming traffic or lunge into water without realizing they will drown (the most common cause of death for high needs autistic children is drowning BTW). Low needs autistic people are similar in this regard. They will treat others like shit without realizing those people will cut them off or punish them for behaving like that. Hence why autistic people are usually unhinged assholes (see: Kanye West, Elon Musk).
The only way to deal with an autistic person is through "the stick", by SHOWING (not telling, showing) them that you're the bigger dog. If I was in Black Flag's shoes, I'd throw "Tina" out on the streets immediately without warning. Autistics only agree to change when you show them why they need to change.
>>669112>Many seemed to have had musical aspirations from young ages and although it seems like many of the rappers grew in at least semi stable homes many turned to gangs and drug dealing before getting into rap. It might've just been due to the high crime and danger of their community that they turned to that activity. Plus it is very lucrative. Plus I bet it got them a lot of pussyDrug dealing is just door-to-sales in terms of prospects
Biigie was a drug dealer and it was not glittering gold.
He was living off of gum and lint. Also he wasn't as badass as he rapped himself to be.
>>669135The psychological establishment needs to do studies on how many prisoners are autistic. I'm aware crime is a social construct and it's only the little criminals who get sent to prison (compared to the big criminals on Wall St and in Washington) but I'd still love to see some stats on this.
I mean, it makes sense that this "Tina" person (whomever she is) is autistic, a recovering addict, former sex worker, and overall emotional wreck from the sounds of it. My bestie was a stripper for a time in her late teens and she said nearly all the women she worked with had personality disorders. Like serious personality disorders. I wouldn't be surprised if most women in the sex industry were autistic too.
>>668923Sunk cost fallacy.
If you’ve invested so much time, energy, and money into one person you’re going to stick with them longer because you don’t want your sacrifices to have been in vain.
It’s what Israel doesn’t get: the more Palestinians they kill the more determined the Palestinians are to destroy Israel, because they can’t allow the children to die for nothing.
>>669116These same problems are also prevalent with non-autists as well.
Or ghetto folk.
>>664557Wrong.
Gen Z and alpha have stuff outside of online.
Otherwise, everyone born after World War Two is terminally online
>>669169I mean as in actual ghetto folk. Autistic or not. Not all personality defects are autism ya know.
>>669174Except all the things you said have been said many times before. And often in a biased way to make autists out to be ontologically evil.
Im not saying artists are innocent. But, neurotypicals have the same problems yet they're not pathologised.
>>669179So you’re saying this research has no use?
If, as the facts show, a huge number of drug addicts are autistic understanding the link between autism and addiction can lead to better treatment methods. If we deny any link exists at all we would have to give autistic addicts treatment methods that don’t work on autistic brains. See what I mean?
>>669176LeftyPol is:
>Anti -Judeo>Anti-anime>Sex-negative>Virgin shaming>Misandrist>MisogynistAny thing leftist here is just whining about having to work or about how capitalism is not allowing people to have any form of unnecessary bohemian escapades that end up draining ones wallet and health.
>>669181You seem to use autism as a convenient diagnosis for all bad behavior.
If every degenerate is autistic, then no one is really autistic.
This is no different from "it's da joos" or "muh wimin" or "muh transhumanists".
>>669187Autistic brains do work different but that doesn't mean they're automatically inclined towards addiction by virtue of being autistic.
Most druggies aren't neurodivergent.
They're neurological or have non autistic neurodivergence.
I see more schizos than autists with drug addiction.
>>669190How do you explain these stats then?
>>669166Also, you can have both autism and schizo disorders. Schizophrenic disorders are actually highly comorbid with autism.
>>669189Idk man. You're the one saying drug addicts are often autistic.
>>669188You need to provide evidence. Because it sounds more like depersonalization. You assume neurochemistry is what's responsible for all behavioral fault rather than maybe social conditioning.
>>669197That’s a forfeit.
If you can’t back up your claims with evidence you shouldn’t be having this conversation.
>>669199More links please.
.amazing how people like to dismiss medical and political articles as "propaganda" unless it agrees with ones opinions.
>>669202Because you're saying "addiction means autism".
Explain then why do many neurotypicals fall victim to drug addiction
>>669202And yet, most of our druggies are neurotypical.
Most druggies I talk to all had normal childhood.
They never had any developmental problems.
>>669203There's been a recent zeitgeist of diagnosing autism for virtually any form of vice.
Pedophilia?
"Oh, they're autistic".
Racism?
"Oh they're autistic"
Robbery?
"Oh they're autistic"
Serial killing?
"Oh they're autistic"
And they frame.it in a way where they're pathetic little victims that need to be broken and humiliated with pity.
This is the same tactics used against blacks and Jews and even homosexuals.
Hell, a lot of rightists promote the myth that gayness and transness is autism.
The same medical articles you use to back your claim were the same medical articles that said women and blacks had microscopic brains a couple centuries ago.
>>669204I’m saying there’s a link between addiction and autism which is clearly laid out in these studies. If you have evidence to the contrary, please show it.
>>669207Personal experience is not the same as a scientific study. Actual psychologists have found a very strong link between autism and drug addiction. You need to refute this with more than simply “all the addicts I know are neurotypical”.
>>669214>The same medical articles you use to back your claim were the same medical articles that said women and blacks had microscopic brains a couple centuries ago.How do you know this? You’re getting defensive because people want to understand how autism relates to social ills so they can better understand both how the autistic brain works and how said social ills ought to be treated?
Do you believe all scientists and psychologists are wrong?
>>669462just ignore him
besides you are in Paris, right? please be
>>668614you can't help her help herself
she might try to appeal to your pity again but you have to remain terse/cold
don't yell or anything
you can't help someone who won't help themself, they'll just drag you down with them. hopefully something forces her to get her shit together, and then you can maybe reconnect with her and have some sort of relationship.
not now, though. her being your roommate isn't helping either of you.
>>669413low bodyfat and dehydration
>>669393methinks natty.
>>670274You know, I never have. Of all the things I do on company time, masturbating in the office building isn't one of them.
I'm friends with one of the security team (corporate office) and people have been caught fucking secretaries, fucking graduates and doing hard drugs in the bathrooms, stashing drugs in their lockers for selling, all kinds of things.
>>670245brother imagine asking for advice on leftypol.org
imagine asking for relationship advice at all
do you not see the point of the only part of life that doesn't come with an user manual?
Alright time for a greentext story:
>Go travel in the Balkans with a friend
>Eventually we split chaotically but amicably and I go to an hostel
>One night, I befriend one guy from the staff and a girl, we go smoke weed and start drinking and chatting
>The guy go back to his job, and I keep talking with the girl in the hostel garden about lots of subjects: literature, our respective lives, art, music, psychedelic drugs, her family, studies…
>Somehow we start cuddling and kissing, then it keeps escalating, she asks me to finger her then she strokes my dick, she was extremely intense, almost had full on sex but I didn't feel confortable doing it like this, she seemed like the loud kind of girl
>We eventually calm down and go to sleep, give her my phone number
>Next morning I'm supposed to leave to go somewhere else, go to the bus station
>Can't bring myself to leave, I feel butterflies in the stomach, can't stop thinking about her
>After spending the whole day wondering if I should leave or not, I decide to go back to the hostel and book two more nights
>Feeling too tired so I go to sleep immediately
>Wake up late this morning, noticed she sent me a cute message on whatsapp
>I recognize her voice in the hall
>Gather courage to go see her and say hi
>It turns out she is going on a daytrip with another guy who rented a car, and she will leave tomorrow
>Too much of a pussy to ask her if I can join them
>Go visit the city some more, all the time thinking that as soon as I see her tonight, I will ask her if I can travel with her tomorrow
>Try to go back early to the hostel, because she said she wanted to go to sleep early, I get lost and I arrive at 8 P.M.
>It's almost 9 P.M. and she still isn't there
I guess my only hope is sending her a message tonight at some point, but for some reason, I think she will tell me "no", or that she rather prefer the other man now. She seems to like me, but I don't expect an happy ending out of this. I just hope the other guy didn't rape her or something.
It's the second time I have a fling during a travel, and I tend to get attached way too easily. I think I'm not emotionally built for casual sex, once I have a whiff of pussy, I believe it's the start of a new love story, but it's hardly like this these days. I guess I just wasn't made of these times.
>>670106This has to be a troll post or an unironic chudette.
Never mind that men are always the ones who have to pay for everything and get strung along
>>670420>It's the second time I have a fling during a travel, and I tend to get attached way too easily. I think I'm not emotionally built for casual sex, once I have a whiff of pussy, I believe it's the start of a new love story, but it's hardly like this these days. I guess I just wasn't made of these times.Using a Beach Boys song to accentuate "TFW no gf" vibes is kinda bit irritating.
Im also tired of this kind of low key subconscious romantic entitlement thats projected into a "sign of the times" ordeal.
>>670867I can usually get 2-4 first dates a month off the apps when I'm looking.
>>670873Bro you're getting taken advantage of.
>>670727Or maybe the girl has itand doesn't tell anyone?
STIs aren't always intentional either.
>>670290>>670281Mid thirties is still young. You need to hang out with actual elderly people. Also, most people feel entitled to some consolation for losing their youth.
>>670282>>670287Life does have meaning but not the fatalism shit that religion/mysticism pushes.
>>669378>>669388This sounds more projective tbh. Even without patriarchy men can still find wives. In fact I would say patriarchy is affecting mens self value by giving it all away to women.
What's happening is that women are not choosing men because women are still patriarchy minded.
Following from
>>670420So basically:
>I see her again that night soon after the post and we start talking about everything for hours again (psychology, how therapists need to go the therapist, birth control pills and IUDs, abortion, Trump, K-holes, …)>At some point I ask her about traveling with her and admit I went back to the hostel just to see her again>"I was afraid of that *laughs*… Sorry I want to travel alone because my ex-bf used to plan everything for me, and I want to feel in charge of my life for once […]">I respect her decision but still ask her to reconsider till the next morning, even if it's just for a few days>Only have a hug because I was too much of a beta pussy to try anything more, and we go to sleepThen that Castlevania II textbox appeared
>Can barely get any sleep because I keep having nightmares and waking up every couple of hours full of sweat due to that goddamn blanket>But in between these nightmares, I come to the conclusion I should also go travel by myself alone, and stop being somewhat clingy>In the morning, she is tired, we talk to different people, then start talking again for a couple of hours about dreams, etc., and I tell her that "I can see you don't want to travel with me, but I came to the conclusion I also need to go my own way" and she smiles>We even play a bit of music together before packing our bags>We go to the bus station together because the city's public transport system is confusing as fuck>In front of her bus, we hug shortly, I say "I will miss you", she says "I understand, but I need to go my own way for some weeks, but you always have my contact" and she does caress my arm a tiny bit this time>I overpay for a bag of chips and a couple of beer cans to drown my sorrowGoddamn hippie girls.
I wasn't feeling very well since then, had a ball in my stomach, until today when I did what a man in this situation have to do: go hike up a mountain where there was absolutely no one. I still cried a bit on the way but it was absolutely liberating and I felt proud of myself. As a bonus, I now have a ton of pictures and a place to recommend to her for her trip.
Also, this old /trv/ thread from 2014 healed my soul because every situation in it is so understandable, and people were much kinder and way less bitter on imageboards back then:
https://archive.4plebs.org/trv/thread/843527/>>670432It's more the realization that I'm not such a fucked-up person as I thought as I was that makes me feel better, that some people can still desire someone like me even though I have a load of unresolved problems to deal with.
The little sex we had just made me yearn for some more, and now I regret not annoying the whole hostel to put my dick inside her, but it was only a fleeting moment and now it's gone, and even if it had happen, that moment would be gone too.
Most women in my city who may desire me either already have a nice stable bf, or they quickly freak out when they start to understand how fucked up and cynical I can be.
With this hippie girl, even if I enjoyed making her pants wet with my fingers one night, the more important part for me was bonding with her during a few days and how she was more understanding than most psychopathic humans out there.
>>670433You were absolutely right anon, dubs speak the truth.
>>670776That's kinda fucked up. I think your dad wanted to get you out of there in the world and get a kiss to "become a man", but by being so brash, he fucked you up.
Some experience not unlike that when I was a kid fucked up my ability to become more than a friend with women, I somewhat got over it but not completely. I lost so many opportunities due to this it's not even funny.
I just hope you will continue the process of slowly getting over it too, anon, but I warn you: I will take a while, and you will have to take risks at some point if you truly want something.
>>670856I honestly think you are right, she wanted the D, I gave her something but not the whole lot of it because I was afraid of waking up the whole hostel — really I'm sure she is the loud kind of woman, which is fine in your own home, but… — and now all I can get is her friendship, and maybe a tiny bit of romance way later on if we message enough and see each other during another trip, which probably won't happen because these things are ephemeral, but in the meantime, she describes herself as "pansexual", brings condoms with her, she is very sociable and talk with others pretty easily, I mean, the conclusion is pretty clear: someone is going to give her the D and it won't be me.
It's kinda painful to think about it, and I'm trying to slowly getting over it, but I think the logical conclusion is to think more like a hippie like her: who knows what might happen? The future is always full of surprises, which might involve her or not.
That said, there are a few hints here and there that she likes me at least as a person, and I want to travel more and visit Central Europe again, so, maybe I will meet her again one day…
>>670653Are you Newgene?
Pet Sounds is a rather melancholic album, maybe Caroline No was more appropriate, but I don't see the problem, when my travels go to shit I listen to Sloop John B for the "I wanna go home" line.
My favorite tunes today were Chopin's Nocturnes, perfect sad contemplative music, the No.15 in particular, but No.13 (couldn't stop crying when I first heard it) and No.21 are also good choices.
But maybe you would have preferred Beautiful Child by Fleetwood Mac, because I fell in love when she was only 10 (well 14 but that's close enough), and she is not a child anymore, she is tall enough to reach for the stars.
Smog did a really nice cover of that, but a song of his that would be even more appropriate would be Chosen One, because she is a wild horse on a collision course with the sun, and I wanted to ride that wild horse into the sun, but I no longer think she is my chosen one, and I no longer think I'll ever find a chosen one, woooohwooooh.
But my favorite guy this year is John Cale, so enjoy this one: Thoughtless Kind. It's the first song I've listened after we parted ways. You will enjoy the lyrics I'm sure.
Sorry Newgene, but I can't take your opinions seriously, you need to go outside a little bit and engage more with actually existing people instead of being bitter about generation wars and romanticism on niche imageboards like you have done for years by now. It seems like you only get your opinions on life from scrolling TikTok and saying hello to elders while going to the bakery. You will be a very sad man on your death bed if you keep going on this way. At least I still feel emotions, strong ones, even if they sometimes they suck, a lot. There is nothing wrong with a little romanticism every once in a while in such a mechanical world. >>671319>but I think the logical conclusion is to think more like a hippieNo anon. The logical conclusion is accepting that you were not up for a meaningless fuck. You should not beat yourself up over it.
If anything, investigate the following: why were you not up for it? Introspect. Learn about yourself.
The girl you describe sounds like all these girls i met at raves. Sure, fun to talk to while on molly but i guarantee you: neither is this specific individual 'one of a kind', nor are such people good at leading long term relationships.
>>671319
>It seems like you only get your opinions on life from scrolling TikTok and saying hello to elders while going to the bakery. You will be a very sad man on your death bed if you keep going on this way. At least I still feel emotions, strong ones, even if they sometimes they suck, a lot. Bruh you guys post screenshots of TikTok or Twitter and argue about what's going on in 4chan when you're not moping about how the world deserves to burn for rejecting socialism.
Also, I don't post "I wanna kms bcuz I wasn't some epic revolutionary" or "the no gf"
You guys keep posting on about the same mundane depression over not getting laid or not being born in a utopia.
>generation warsYou guys whine about boomers and zoomers.
>RomanticismYou guys also criticize romanticist policies from liberals
>>671191This. Beauty is wrongfully over-assigned to women.
Men are not allowed to have any sort of self-value.
>>671319>It's more the realization that I'm not such a fucked-up person as I thought as I was that makes me feel better, that some people can still desire someone like me even though I have a load of unresolved problems to deal with.The little sex we had just made me yearn for some more, and now I regret not annoying the whole hostel to put my dick inside her, but it was only a fleeting moment and now it's gone, and even if it had happen, that moment would be gone too.
This sounds like humble bragging. Also, that could just as easily go wrong, ending you up with a sexual harassment charge.
>Most women in my city who may desire me either already have a nice stable bf, or they quickly freak out when they start to understand how fucked up and cynical I can be.This sounds like more humblebragging
>With this hippie girl, even if I enjoyed making her pants wet with my fingers one night, the more important part for me was bonding with her during a few days and how she was more understanding than most psychopathic humans out there.I hope this isn't just the desperation talking.
>>671536This.
>>671655Goated profile
You'll be drowning in pussy in no time bucko
Nice job
>>671679This is how socialisation is .
This is what LeftyPol wants to stake their livelihood on.
Hippie girl simp here, reporting in.
I sent a message with pictures of the mountain yesterday night, and she replied in the morning with more pictures and emojis and all!
Then I couldn't help it but send a few more paragraphs like a thirsty beta (though with an interesting story), and she didn't reply, but I basically sent the same story to my mom too and she also didn't reply. People aren't made to read long messages and replying to them quickly, especially when they involve stories about participating to a class due to a coincidence, stray dogs attacking you, and lesbians traveling with bikes; when the recipients have shit on the stove, so to speak. The attention economy, etc.
Oh and I've deleted a message to correct some grammatical mistakes, and women are always suspicious when you delete messages :)
Not that I mind, I'm more weary of these fucking stray dogs at the moment, one tried to attack me today again, so I carry a stone in my bag now. I'm testing my optic nerves with these sad Cocteau Twins songs, and I just feel fine, I simply want to shitpost again.
>>671536Insightful post, thank you anon.
Indeed, when we were having our little wild time, I remember saying "why should I give everything the first time?", so you've made a very astute observation.
Maybe because the only one-night stand/last sexual experience I had a year and half ago drove me kinda crazy, and the long distance talk went to shit due to my stupid drunken ass? Maybe I simply want a long-term cozy relationship? Maybe because I wanted to LARP as an attractive girl for once, the "not giving yourself the first night" kind of thing? I will think about it. If it was any of that, it wasn't truly conscious though.
>>672007I think you are right about the letdown thing. I'm stuck in the friendzone basically after doing the "not the first night" dance, because I'm a man, not a girl, but I'm rather okay with that (as long as I don't see her in person again).
>You sound like you get clingy and trauma dump on any woman who gives you an ounce of attention.I'm either clingy or cold in such situations, and I talk about my traumas yes, but women don't necessarily hate that, because it gives them an opportunity to trauma dump too, if you do it the right way and let them speak.
>Save being "fucked up and cynical" for the bros or your therapist.No. I trust more a man who tells me he is flawed, than a man who tells me he is perfect. One might be a mess of a person, but the other is definitely a scammer.
>The absolute state of middle-class failsons whose biggest problem is that they were too neurotic to bang some random slut on their holiday, so they write paragraphs and paragraphs on it.First of all, I'm not middle-class, you know nothing about my life.
And yes, I'm neurotic, and I like to write paragraphs. So what? Are you Russian? Are you going to cry about it? Do your eyes bleed? Do you prefer incel propaganda? If so, too bad for (You), but my story definitely applies to the "sex and relationships" subject of this thread.
>>671578>>671581Listen Newgene, I will keep it short, you know nothing about what I believe, and I know you are a 7chan transplant.
>humblebraggingI'm talking about sex and relationships, and when I say I'm fucked up, I'm for example alcoholic enough to start having the shakes if I don't drink a beer in the morning. Most gfs I had freaked out because of this, after a couple of months generally.
>inb4 it's your own faultNo shit, I need to fix this problem, but your righteous crypto-Protestant ideology won't help me in any way.
>Also, that could just as easily go wrong, ending you up with a sexual harassment charge.That's show how little you know about the world.
You think sex and relationships are all like pic related where if a girl asks you to put some fingers inside her pussy, you are indirectly signing a contract with clear terms, but in real life, the terms are never clear. You need to communicate to understand what the other person want, and vice versa.
You have a typical American mindset. No wonder you hate romanticism.
>>671885I'm sorry for you anon
As cliché as it may sounds, maybe you might need some counseling if available in your country, because this is a hard trauma to process, and some people might bring you down if you bring it up, because they want to ignore/repress that reality of human life inside their little brains.
I wish you luck, and you didn't deserve it, at all.
>>672180If I'm middle class, then I rose up there by my sole wits because my single mom was literally working in the fields, idiot. And I can't still buy a fucking house for shit, so shut the fuck up.
>Also if I get the ick reading your posts I can only imagine how an attractive girl feels about the drivel you text her.Everytime I don't post in this thread, it's all incel drivel, I don't care about your "ick".
>>672159kek
If you want to feel better about yourself, just look at
https://boards.4chan.org/trv/thread/2777989 and /r/Pattaya
People complain about my long-ass paragraphs, but they don't know how disgusting the pussy-seeking mindset can be, I'm just a sweet summer child by comparison.
>>672204Uygha, you think anyone who travel for fun is petit-bourg. Just give up on the idea of organizing the working class right now.
According to your criteria, the only true working class to organize are people who can't book a 20€ bus ticket on the internet, and exploited immigrants who go back to their home country every 10 years. Good luck, but it's obvious your goal isn't to organize shit, it's just to masturbate over the aesthetics of past communist regimes like half of this website.
You apparently don't understand the concepts of "saving money over years while working", "getting unemployed", and "not being tied to a family", and you want to lecture me on what is working class and what isn't.
Oh, and I imagine Marx was a petit-bourg because he fled to Paris, Brussels, and London, which are very expensive cities, and begged to Engels all the time instead of getting a normal job at the factory. I imagine Lenin was a petit-bourg for fleeing to Vienna instead of bumfuck nowhere and working the soil like a normal peasant. I imagine Stalin was a petit-bourg for leaving Georgia and becoming a "professional revolutionary" instead of getting a real job, and Mao was one too for leaving rural Hunan and moving to Beijing.
Moron.
>>672176>That's show how little you know about the world.You think sex and relationships are all like pic related where if a girl asks you to put some fingers inside her pussy, you are indirectly signing a contract with clear terms, but in real life, the terms are never clear. You need to communicate to understand what the other person want, and vice versa.
You have a typical American mindset. No wonder you hate romanticism.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😫
You really are delusional.
Imagine being accused of being too sheltered for worrying about misreading some woman's cues and ending up with a slap on face or trip to the jailhouse.
You image board users never cease to amaze me.
ALSO:
And especially since you base your personality on your struggles for sexual/romantic escapades.
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>No shit, I need to fix this problem, but your righteous crypto-Protestant ideology won't help me in any way.>I'm talking about sex and relationships, and when I say I'm fucked up, I'm for example alcoholic enough to start having the shakes if I don't drink a beer in the morning. Most gfs I had freaked out because of this, after a couple of months generally>Listen Newgene, I will keep it short, you know nothing about what I believe, and I know you are a 7chan transplant.Sounds like some is a little defensive
Especially with the cliche "you don't know me" while assuming too much shit about me.
Alcoholic and it scared off the same?
Good
Alcohol is morally coddled far too much.
I would have sympathy for you but your self righteous attitude annoys me.
But then again imagebaord users have no sense of humility. It's always the worlds fault.
When it's their fault they want everyone to ignore and move on.
Also, if you plan on having kids, just adopt.
All that booze is turning to sugar and it's probably medsed your liver and testes.
>>672420>Imagine being accused of being too sheltered for worrying about misreading some woman's cues and ending up with a slap on face or trip to the jailhouse.The hippie girl replied to me and sent me a few messages on WhatsApp today, Newgene. I'm friend with her now. She won't bring me to court for being friendly and sending her pictures.
She is right now alone camping on the beach with her tent, she is a feminist hippie who doesn't give a fuck, living her own life and simply want to share a few good moments with the people she meets along the way. And I don't think I have ever touched a vagina that wet before in my life btw. Maybe another man will come along the way, but who am I to judge?
Even if she wanted to bring me to court (she doesn't), we live in different countries with different jurisdictions, and met in a foreign country for both of us. If I was a psychopath, I could take advantage of that, abuse her and GTFO quickly; but I've simply found a new friend who lives in a country I like and want to visit again someday, and I like her style, simple as. My goal is not to abuse her, just to be nice, like that Todd Rundgren's song called Be Nice To Me.
Just quit it dude. Why do you have to be so negative all the time?
>You image board users never cease to amaze me.Says the guy who has been shitposting here for several years now and was originally posting on 7chan, an obscure half-dead imageboard.
>I would have sympathy for you but your self righteous attitude annoys me.Me too, Newgene, I could apply the exact same thing to you.
>But then again imagebaord users have no sense of humility. It's always the worlds fault.I'm trying to get beyond that after years of being trapped into such thought patterns. It's a slow process, but I'm slowly starting to feel better about it, while not abandoning my socialist ideas in the process.
>Also, if you plan on having kids, just adopt.If you plan on talking, shut up. You Americans always want to control the sexual and family life of other people, it's fucking insane, it's basically soft-eugenics. Soon CCTV will be mandatory in all married couples' bedrooms and the cops will come to your house if you went over the "cumming into your wife" monthly quota.
>>672384Based femanon, thank you. When both parties can trauma dump while listening to each other, that's when real relationships (friendly or romantic) are made.
Here is a song for you, vid related.
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