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What is the leftypol stance on pitbulls? Personally i think they’re dangerous and should stop being bred

I don’t understand how pit mommies can say “oh they’re so sweet and caring, you’re more likely to be killed by x than a pittie” when they were bred to be violent and aggressive

Plus they’re fucking ugly as sin

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Pitbulls used to be a patriotic american symbol.at some point, until black people started owning them

>>697544
From what i’ve seen in online discourse, the most vocal defenders of pitbulls are white lumpens or white suburbanites pit mommy types

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What's scary is that they can go from 0 to locked in a murdering frenzy in a matter of seconds and that they don't mind pain at all so you may have to inflict major physical damage to make them stop. This why so many people get mauled or get kids/cats murdered by their pits. They also tend to get more crazy as they age. At least with most other big dogs you can predict what they'll do and train the agression and prey drive out of them, not a thing with pits.

>>697552
>>697539
Isnt it because humans would aggravate them?
Starve them and hit them to make them more dangerous for dog fights?

Yeah these shouldn’t exist. They’re a danger to their community. But tbh most pet owners shouldn’t be allowed to have pets, especially dogs. I’m tired of walking in neighborhood and having dogs run at me, bark, and scare me only to have the owner say some stupid shit like “he would never hurt anyone”. Yeah okay, put that thing on a leash/tighten it. It should be legal to gun down dogs that aren’t leashed.

>>697556
I think they were just bred for sudden aggression and very high resolve to maim and kill once they're activated, which is a thing you want for arena fighters but not for pets. It's a baseline but you can of course make it worse by abusing them. The issue is that your well trained and loved pit can be cool all his life until suddenly it catastrophically isn't for no reason

>>697557
>most pet owners shouldn’t be allowed to have pets, especially dogs
You have said the actually truth. Unless it's small enough to get punted into next town only farmers and maybe hunters should be allowed to have bigger type dogs.

>>697560
Well.
Here's the thing.
I don't hate dogs. I like them.
What I hate is the human instinct to objectify them as toy gods.

Dogs suffer more from domestic living then if they were wild.
Constant forced selective breeding, neutering/spaying, being put on leashes and in cages, not allowed to freely roam to find spaces to do your business, it fucks up dogs.

I wish anti-dog cultural enthusiasts would stop blainithe dogs. Blame the humans.
Dogs never asked to be caged
Dogs never asked to be filled up

Humans do all that to them.
Why do you think dogs are always so feisty at the pet salons? Humans are treating them like toys.

>>697557
>>697563
Pet ownership should be licensed

>>697615
Being a parent should also require a license

>>697615
I feel this, but it’s also so easy for people to get pets that people just wouldn’t comply. Perhaps an additional tax on pet products that goes toward animal control services would be more practical. Assuming that money is actually used for ticketing degenerates that don’t train their pets properly.

>>697616
I've said the same thing but people think this is unethical.
Yet they wanna put restrictions on curriculum.

>>697619
Pet ownership taxation.
Just like how countries used to have bachelor taxes.

>>697638 >>697616
The problem is that you get people slipping through the cracks and create a culture of distrust. I presume you were raised in some kind of strange culture like German-American-Diaspora with a great deal of trust and worship in established authorities; but the fact of the matter is that not everyone is going to be bueno with having to fucking register to be a parent. The solution is education from the ground-up, encouraging nonfuckery from the ground up, from cradle to grave implementing steps to eventually reach the goals you want from licensing parenthood. Fuckass control freak.

>>697539
On one hand I find almost all dog breeding a distasteful booj excess, on the other pitbull discourse is ran by racists that try to use it both as dog whistle and propaganda for race realism. "Some breeds of dogs are just fundamentally aggressive and need to be put down!"

>>697565
>What I hate is objectifying them
As always, the primary contradiction is bourgeois class society. You can breed all the friendly benevolent mutts you want…but only if you abolish the eugenicist settler territorial society that produces such nazi attack dogs, like that movie by Sam Fuller

Until we achieve liberation, we are like a monkey in a zoo who does nothing but screech about your fellow enslaved beasts being nice, or being mean to us inside the prison walls. Forget about dogs, you need to leave your prison! GET OUT!

>>697658
>the fact of the matter is that not everyone is going to be bueno with having to fucking register to be a parent. The solution is education from the ground-up, encouraging nonfuckery from the ground up, from cradle to grave implementing steps to eventually reach the goals you want from licensing parenthood. Fuckass control freak.



Parents are the ultimate control freak, worse than any centralized authority.
That's why I suggest mandatory licensing for parenthood.

Most parents think of their kids as biological trophies that they can warp/castrate in any way they like.

Especially with religious parents, you're not allowed to say no to their faith if you're their offspring.
They will beat you and curse you for doing so.

I would say somesort of educational course and background check followed by license similar to cars and guns now, would also say the same of most recreational drugs as well.

>>697660

>on the other pitbull discourse is ran by racists that try to use it both as dog whistle and propaganda for race realism. "Some breeds of dogs are just fundamentally aggressive and need to be put down!"


this is something i realized as a black person myself. tried looking up how the anti pitbull side of pitbull discourse are just racists and all i got were studies of dogs being trained to be aggressive or racist towards black people

>>697565

anti dog crowd is an allegory for racism due to its white supremacist nature and psyop probably perpetuated by cops or the feds such as the cia as an excuse to harm animals even further. there’s a news about a cop killing a lost blind and deaf dog because he doesn’t know what to do with it apparently. i remember arguing with some redditor that dogs deserve rights and don’t deserve to be banned from public spaces, and they used their cynophobia—their fear of dogs—as an excuse to discriminate against them, and when i compared that to other forms of discrimination, they got pissed and posted it to the cynophobia subreddit which i’m assume is full of rage baiters and bots judging by some of the replies posts. they also tried to excuse their discrimination/“fear” towards dogs by saying they’re a marginalized group also well and also got defensive and said they were vegan just because i assumed they weren’t. i sometimes wonder how do these people even exist

>>697856
>humans care about things they intimately and labouriously create
huh who would've fucking guessed? if you can't deal with that reality and your first thought is repossession, bella ciao fascist.

>>697856
I'm sorry that your upbringing sucked, but that is something you have to resolve internally. Trying to impose your anal-retentive restrictions on one of the most essential biological imperatives of the human psyche won't heal the wound inside you

>>697922
He doesn't have the power to do that anyways. It's just a thought that him and many others have. Maybe if he had the power he could implement it but since he's on this image board I very much doubt it.

>>697539
I always found it weird how people act as if pitbulls are some uniquely violent dog breed like rottweilers or german shepards aren't ripping throats out too.

>>697961
Idk about german shepherds, but rottweilers are pretty bad too and should probably stop being bred

Are there any cases of german shepherds attacking people unprovoked?

>>697539
>What is the leftypol stance on pitbulls?
These have been bred intentionally into natural born psychopaths. More dangerous than wolves as wolves usually run away when they smell humans.

>>697909

>You're fascist for wanting to ensure competence in parenting

>>697922

Not abused. I'm just saying. But Im amazed how we are casual and lenient with childrearing as an industry but we wanna put restrictions on everyone and everything else

>>697961
This.
Don't forget bloodhounds

>>697896
Bruh is this even coherent?
Why do you guys always wanna make everything into "this is low-key racism/misogyny"?

No, cynophobia is a real thing.
And while the Reddit crowd is rabid, there are more staunch defenders of violent dog breeds on the basis of "they're dogs, they can do no wrong".

Dog worship is deeply ingrained in out society so much that fear/dislike of dogs is often treated as a criminal trait. Literally.
There are people who say that anyone who dislikes dogs is a sociopath/serial killer.

Yet a lot of our prominent madman were good with dogs.
Charles Manson and Adolf Hitler for example.

>>697981
I don't know man, not sure I'd call childrearing an industry, but maybe it's different where you are from.

Personally I do see some merit in that argument, but I'm of the school of thought that the issue is more tied to our mode of production and how that create a warped idea of what a family is as an institution. I really do believe in the proverb 'you need a village to raise a child', and as it stands, the standard family 'unit' is isolated and strained, which creates all sort of issues that the upper strata can circumvent by outsourcing raising children, which in turn can create a whole other set of problems.

Either way, I don't believe that the answer is state mandated abortions for people who haven't got a baby certificate, and I do think your view on the general parent is dogmatic lol. But I don't think the discussion your proposal begets is without merit tho

We can't just stop at preventing breeding - we have to exterminate all currently living pitbulls. In my ideal socialist state, the secret police would be raiding homes in the dead of night at shooting them in the head with a silenced pistol. The owners will also be put in re-education camps and taught about the danger of pitbulls.

>>697985
dog nuttery in the west is so fucking annoying. kkkrackers are literally incapable of accepting the fact that not all cultures appreciate dogs the way they do.

Pits are fine and if you hate then congrats, you drank the racism juice. But dog breeding is fucked and they should all just be mutated out.
They're nanny dogs though, great with kids and super mellow actually. Y'all a bunch hysterical white bitches.

>>698000
>Personally I do see some merit in that argument, but I'm of the school of thought that the issue is more tied to our mode of production and how that create a warped idea of what a family is as an institution.

That's fair, but I still believe that parenting is too often treated like an automatic grant for adulthood.

>I really do believe in the proverb 'you need a village to raise a child', and as it stands, the standard family 'unit' is isolated and strained, which creates all sort of issues that the upper strata can circumvent by outsourcing raising children, which in turn can create a whole other set of problems.


Funny thing is, "It takes a village to raise a child" is one of the few proverbs that actually have merit in reality. But, it's often just a platitude that's repeated by adults to sound profound.
They probably don't even really bother to think about what it really means.

Most adults treat kids based on consanguinity and pop-cultural commonalities, not as individuals.

>>698022
It's not just whites.
Blacks and Hispanics are dog worshippers as well
There's also other ethnocultyrea that do pamper dogs, although not the same way Occidental folk do.

>>698042
It's white people whom are adopting pit bulls that then maul their own kids. If any white people are complaining about out bulls, it's due to their fellow white neighbor.
Thus idea that anti-pit bull sentiment is racist against blacks is just hogwash.

>>698042
How can i be racist? My bull is black

>>697539
>What is the leftypol stance on pitbulls?
ugly and not even all that good for self defense and home security

Among white women where are pit bulls ranked? Sexually speaking

>>698081
Wrong place to ask, there are no white women here and nobody here know any

>>698083
i have been mistaken for a white woman fwiw

>>698081
As a zoophile I find them mid, better than most small dogs and worse than most big dogs

>>698090
I’m so sorry

All pets are terrible

Pittbulls are le commodity that can be le dangerous like le gun

>>698042
Even black people are stepping back from pitbulls. I live in a mostly black area with dog owners and not one is a pit.

>>698081
From what I have seen on the internet, they seem popular among more libertine members of fairer sex.

>>698167
I live in a mostly Mexican area and it seems a large part of dog owners have pit bulls or other types of big aggressive dogs.

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>>698168
YOU
JUST
FUCKING
KNOW

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personnally i have a mild fear of dogs in general, but i couldn't care less if these once are uniquely more violent, i think they should stop being bred simply because i think they look really ugly, like god why, they literally look like demons from hell

>>698151
well i’m trans so it’s really not a huge loss for me

>>698164
All Pets Are Bastards*

>>698090
Because you banged a pit bull?

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>>697552
pitCHADs keep winning
how do they not kill it the moment it starts latching onto people?

>>698222
>Because you banged a pit bull?
i can see how you might come to that conclusion, but no
it was a guy and probably a golden retriever at that

>>698118
GREAT PYRANEES >>>>

>>698250
now thats a pretty looking kind of dog

>>698258
:3333 i knowwww

>>697552
Terrifying, all those people couldn't kill it and it was still going after people at the end

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why would you want a pitbull when you can have this

>>698270
This, one of the things that baffles me about why people are so defensive over pitbulls is that they are so fucking ugly? There are a million dog breeds to choose from and you choose a pitbull

>>698270
These guys are nice but they can bark like fucking crazy, being bred for livestock protection.

>>698282
ya i know its great :3

They would be fine if they were still work dogs but they make shitty family dogs. It doesn’t help people breed them to be freakishly big which means all it takes is one bad day where they freak out and rip a family members throat out.

>>698045
>It's white people whom are adopting pit bulls that then maul their own kids. If any white people are complaining about out bulls, it's due to their fellow white neighbor.
>Thus idea that anti-pit bull sentiment is racist against blacks is just hogwash.
I only know one white family that owned pit bulls, the dozens I met outside that were not with black families. And neither of our anecdotal experience touches on the actual cultural identity politics at play here, and I know that you know that. You're bullshitting me.
>>698046
Decent joke, but I know plenty of white folks with very close black friends who are still racist as hell. Is your bull "one of the good ones"

Dogs in general are disgusting wastes of space.

>>698436
tiny toxoplasmosis infected paws typed this post

>>697985

cynophobia isn’t a bad thing obvs. i’m just tired of speciesists and ageists using their fear as an excuse to seclude others even further. doesn’t mean i’m not tired of westerners buying dogs an excuse to get away with everything because i am

>Bruh is this even coherent?

Why do you guys always wanna make everything into "this is low-key racism/misogyny"?

because there are other forms of bigoted undertones in everything under our current society including hating dogs. everything thing is political, so is owning dogs, and hating dogs. nothing is ethical under our western and or american society at least as of current. if you have a problem with that then your problem i guess

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>>698475
Yeah, and they’re not wrong

>>698176
pet is such a cringe term. just use companion instead. and just like children, the only reason why pets are seen as “terrible”, is because they’re property. so therefore they’re gonna be treated like objects and “trained”/groomed or abused to hurt other people

>>698118
hello another fellow zoophile

>>698270
best dog breed tbh i really want one in the future

>>698489
>because there are other forms of bigoted undertones in everything under our current society including hating dogs. everything thing is political, so is owning dogs, and hating dogs.

To a certain extent, politics is everything. Hell, I would even say that religion is more political than spiritual


>nothing is ethical under our western and or american society at least as of current. if you have a problem with that then your problem i guess


That's why I say we need a reset. It's why Im glad less humans are procreating. We have too many dysfunctionals running about.

>>698436
No.Dogs are cute. They're just socially abused by humans. They would be better off if they were autonomous.

>>698493
>pet is such a cringe term. just use companion instead. and just like children, the only reason why pets are seen as “terrible”, is because they’re property. so therefore they’re gonna be treated like objects and “trained”/groomed or abused to hurt other people

Domestic animals and children are treated like sentient toys. Also, alot of people refer to their domestic animal companion as their "fur baby" nowadays

IDC about the terminology as much as the implications of it. Dogs are forced to wear clothes and wear sunglasses and they they don't like it.
I hate how people wanna treat their dogs as fashion puppets. The dogs don't like it

>>698173
>>698278
I've seen some really handsome pitbulls.

velvet hippos

>>698506
White woman alert

>>698493
wow so there's now three dogfuckers in this thread

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How the fuck do you go from wolf to this??

They're the best dogs, and people who hate them are retards who should be euthanized

>>697552
No one had a pocket knife, just beating it with shitty sticks until they broke and those cars in the end just not running it over. What a retarded society.

>>698560 i'm gonna come

>>698560
Selective breeding.

>>698590
we must retvrn

pitbulls are a total exception to the rule of normal dog activity, which makes them rightfully persecuted as a problem breed, and in civil society, should be banned.

>>698625
Again have you considered that maybe pitbulls were used more frequently as streetfighters compared to other dog breeds?

The problem with pitbulls is the same problem with selective breeding for dogs in general. Breeders want their dogs to be "strong" and "aggressive" and now you have that combined with all the problems inbreeding gives you. But a lot of people complaining about them still want their hecking cute doggo breeds that can barely breath and move so they rarely point it out.

Under Communism there will be mandatory euthanization of all pit bulls. All pit bull owners will be hunted down and shot.

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>>698625
imagine walking your dog and getting attacked by a fucking chow chow

>>697660
Dog breeds are way, way more inbred than humans are though. Shut bills are specifically bred to be aggressive fighting dogs.




Good luck reforming this.

Ban the breed.

>>698580
A pocket knife requires you to get in close, putting you at greater risk of a bite. Might as well say "why didn't anyone put it in a sleeper hold?"

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>>698173
they are trying to breed them into the demons from ghostbusters

Animal rights activist: BAN PITBULLS

The uyghurs of dogs.

>>699949
You know there's a lot of conflicting arguments you could make about the whole topic but the fact that every time a pit bull kills a kid or something the news gets spammed by pitbull advocates is a fuckign problem. Like these people go and harass victims of dog maulings. Independent of the breed this is a fucking problem.

Tangentially related to this thread but i’ve just been out for a walk and noticed so much dog shit on the ground. I think people that just let their dogs shit on the ground without picking it up should have their dogs taken away

just raise the kids to be tougher

>>700732
In many places they do DNA testing of the poop and dend the fine to the owners

>>700784
Do they have to cover the cost of DNA testing?


Pitbull attacks doge

I adopted one and have had her for 11 years she's 14 now. Been a great dog. Idc what others say.

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>>701781
Mine won't even open a door without me opening it for her. She's very shy and never even seen her growl once at me or my family members thru 11 years of her living with me. Here is a video of her and some photos of her now and when young

>>701783
This is the paper of when I adopted her as well 11 years ago

>>701781
>her
>>701783
>her
Once again, the true problem reveals itself.

>>701785
>applying gender stereotypes to animals with no significant sexual dimorphism

>>701787
I could apply it to owners instead and I bet you would see massive gender disparity too.

>>701787
>Unneutered male dogs were 2.6 times more likely to bite people than neutered dogs.

>One of the best ways to prevent dog attacks is to ensure that male dogs are sterilized. Unneutered male dogs were responsible for between 70% and 76% of dog bites and were 2.6 times as likely as neutered dogs to bite.¹⁵


https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

>>701790

It seems true

>In a survey, 85% of dog bite injuries requiring medical attention involved a male dog, with a significant proportion being pit bulls


>Statistically, male pit bulls are involved in approximately 75% of attack incidents, indicating higher aggression levels perceived or exhibited by males


https://gitnux.org/pit-bull-bite-statistics/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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>utm_source=chatgpt.com

>>701790
>>701791
>>701785
There are species of animals where the female is the sole aggressor
You're also forgetting that males are the default sex of pet dogs anyway and they're often the most abused for dogfighting.

>>701795
ChatGPT can function as a search engine, not just LLM.
May as well puke at Google

>>700745
Or maybe raise dogs without abuse

Neutering dogs should be considered animal abuse.
IDC if it's for the sake of human protection.
You wanting to bring an animal into human spaces is abuse to the animal and fellow humans

>I don’t understand how pit mommies can say “oh they’re so sweet and caring, you’re more likely to be killed by x than a pittie” when they were bred to be violent and aggressive
They aren't more aggressive than other breeds but at the same time, there aren’t many breeds with as much physical force as a pitbull.
Other factor is that people that buy or adopt pitbulls aren't stable human beings. Dogs are smart animals, they will adapt to survive and protect their family. If you stop breeding them, people that buy pitbull will start buying other similar races that aren't as popular today, it isn't going to change anything.

>>697557
People that are afraid of dogs should also be leashed when they are walking outside. They are a a danger to their community and would gun down dogs if they weren't a bunch of cowards.

>>701813
>You're also forgetting that males are the default sex of pet dogs anyway
what
an equal number of male and female dogs are born

>>700732
I like to jog in my neighborhood and noticed that people just let their dogs do whatever. Bark at people, chase them, etc. I bought pepper spray and can’t wait to hit a dog with it tbh. I honestly fucking hate dogs and dog owners like this.

>>701853
This. Dogs have suffered from hyper-exckusive artificial selection and "obedience training" for far too long.
Humans are worried about robots or aliens taking over the world? Thats the least likely scenario.
The real problem we should be worried about are dog uprisings

>>701861
I think I should clarify:
Methinks the reason why pit bull males are more aggressive is because they're the ones most likely to be abused for animal fights.
Females are probably kept as breeding factories.

>>701858
Nah.
Just put leashes on Karens.

we should breed them for meat instead and uncuck east asia

dogs are weird ass wolf mutant abominations resulting from human domestication. same goes for most farm animals. they should be abolished altogether in the name of rewilding.

>>702068

cringe

>>701867

i hope a dog mauls you to death

>>702068

also how are domesticated animals gonna live out in the wild LMAO

>>702072
they ain't. let 'em die


i hope i get to reincarnate as a breeding dog it'd be fun :3

>>702103
Would you try to breed white women?


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