/siberia/ - Off-topic

Explain to them how idpol/culture wars serves the interests of the ruling class.

One doesn‘t diminish the other. That‘s just a fallacy of class reductionist white socialists who hate progressivism for the same reason their right wing counter part wants nothing to hear about it. It‘s not that minorities lack class consciousness at the cost of adopting „idpol“, they simply don‘t have class consciousness while being aware and discontent with superstructural. One doesn‘t exclude the other and you are framing it this way to arrive at your desired conclusion of not talking about secondary contradictions at all. Gaining class consciousness, which is necessary, does not do away with their complaints and investment in superstructural phenomena. What drives those complaints is whites perpetuating racism, heteroes perpetuating queerphobia and men perpetuation misogyny. It‘s a logical and inevitable consequence that class reductionist socialists skip over to pin the blame solely on minorities.

>>720404
People rally around identity/tribe/etc. when they feel like there's some sort of threat. Reduce the threat and people won't do it as much. It's why terrorist groups target random people for belonging to a particular ethnic group of religion, they want people from that community to retaliate against members of another community to polarize people. At the end of the day you have to kill/jail/drive out the terrorists who are doing that.

Get them off twitter.

>>720444
>At the end of the day you have to kill/jail/drive out the terrorists who are doing that
That's jenny side
t. burger propaganda outlets when ETIM terrorists are jailed

>>720404
Hey retard. Did you not just see how white people overwhelmingly voted in a white nationalist criminal in USA last election? Fine minorities in USA may have their issues but this myth id pol only exist among brown and black people is tired both tired and false AF.

this site's queasiness over anything considered "idpol" and libtard tier is why it will always be a niche circlejerk whose only spawns are reactionary circlejerks like the ACP or r/stupidpol

There's more class consciousness among "minorities" than there are among white people
And, there's more class consciousness among libs even than the "white working class"(racists and boat dealers) that this board liked to jerked off as an ideal for a decade

>>720426
trvke btw and well put

>>720426
>class reductionist
<white socialists
This is a cope you've come up with because you're a radical liberal that doesn't want to admit to being one.
> It‘s not that minorities lack class consciousness at the cost of adopting „idpol“
It is precisely that; idpol is easy, idpol is comfortable because it's easier to stay in your identity-lane and group with people that are the same as you, than it is to unite with people of different cultures.

>What drives those complaints is whites perpetuating racism, heteroes perpetuating queerphobia and men perpetuation misogyny.
No, what drives this is glowies funding idpol movements that keep complaining about those issues as if it was still the 1960s. This is typical COINTEL-PRO and as you're proving, very effective in brainwashing ill-read people like yourself.

Any serious socialist of ANY race or sex has been adamant at approaching identity issues from the lens of dialectical materialism, from a position within the working class. And the way you say "heteros" is hilarious. Society bends over backwards for fags in this day and age, and the same for blacks and the same for women. Blockbusters filled with generic, representation stuffed in, laws passed making exceptions for them, whole bitch-fests and demonization campaigns against people that say a mean word to them. Sure you can say it's peformative, but the point stands, in this day and age, the only place you can call someone a uyghur or a faggot is on anonymous imageboards and private chats. And yet racial tensions are higher than in the decades before. Why? because it's not class-based alleviation of racial differences as MLK did (an open socialist that walked hand in hand with white working class people during his marches) it's just liberal brow-beating and lecturing.

>pin the blame solely on minorities.
I find it quite interesting how you target "white" socialists here and make an absolutely false claim by subtly jumping the gap from "class reductionism" to "opposing idpol is the same as blaming minorities"
You're nothing more than a radlib trying to divide people, or a glowie. Either way, eat shit.

>>720467
>white people overwhelmingly voted in a white nationalist criminal in USA
<Trump
leftypol is dead and you reddit-faggots killed it. 5 years ago people would have realized what Trump is; a porky and realized further that Trump is a business-man, an opportunist that acts in rational self-interest. He no more cares for white nationalism than he does for black nationalism, it's irrellevant. What matters is money and power; he's up there and the rest are not.
You actually think people voted him in? That voting matters? Truly you are a liberal.

Read a fucking book you retards.

>>720654
Really? Cause I don't see it in the USA. I see minorities buying into glowie propaganda and pushing for divisive idpol laws that do not make people equal but give them special privileges that reek of Pork.

>>725471
>fags
>blacks
smells like chud in here

>How do we steer minorities
god you are a backwards moron

>>725807
lmao