/siberia/ - Off-topic

>life is pain. we should all die.
<hasnt commited suicide or homocide.
hypocrite.

>>725182
It's usually more like life is pain don't procreate. Death is also pain. Just try not to do too much harm.

Explain why pain is bad

>>725184
but behind this illusion of pacifism is the desire to kill every human being on earth. its a total paradox.

>>725194
Maybe. But it makes sense at least to me to just stop pro creating if you can. We're just animals though so we'll keep going until we can't. So it's not possible to kill every human on the planet. Anyways I don't most people who follow antinatalist logic want to do that.

>>725197
but here's another paradox; everything alive will die eventually, so the desire to end life is already fulfilled. there is another pessimist called thomas ligotti, who has advocated for a generational 2-child policy in the west to lower birth rates to the lowest degree - but all of this is paradoxical, since the desire to politically effect these ends means putting investment in the cops who will enforce this policy in 100 years, for example - so you are designing a society, just for less people. so i see all this misanthropy as entirely ideological; it reinforces power, it cant deconstruct it.

the honest antinatalist would immediately drop nukes everywhere on earth to achieve extinction of all life.

>>725182
the point is that life, as it exists, is not worth living. youre a slave. in a world where everyones free, maybe that world would be worth living in, but we all know thats not happening

>>725204
>the honest antinatalist would immediately drop nukes everywhere on earth to achieve extinction of all life.
Maybe. But I think most antinatalists like most people in general are too squeamish to do something like this. That is take their beliefs to a logical extreme. Most people would just like to live a relatively stable and relatively painless life. Most people don't want extremes because they'll most likely be harmed or at the very least discomforted. Gradual change I think is what's best but sometimes things have to be forced whatever that may be.