I saw a Veterans Day mural where people but up pictures of veteran family members and there were literal WW2 vets hung up next to Iraq War vets. Its just so disgusting to equate the morality of our involvement in those two wars.
The burger WWII vets just fought to stop Socialism from spreading.
>>727950That’s not true. Give credit where credit is due! Although the USSR made the largest contributions America’s constitutions were significant in the defeat of fascism. Obviously America became the world’s worst country as soon as the war ended and the Truman doctrine was signed but still. I have no idea how you can say that American WW2 vets “fought to stop socialism” when they fought the country that was invading the USSR.
the western theater of ww2 was just an inter imperialist war
>muh "good war" myth
Read some primary fucking historical documents, Americans never gave a single shit about "saving the world from fascism." That bullshit was spun up years later, retroactively.
>>727955Bordiga would disagree with this.
>>727956>oh, so you love nazis huh? you think the nazis should have won WW2? you think antifascists are just as bad as fascists???Radlib mindset. If the US "saved the world from fascism" why did it immediately put "ex-"Nazis in charge of its Cold War effort while giving the rest of them a free pass to immigrate wholesale to the anglosphere?
>>727952that tbh has to do with the fact even if soldiers had the geniune belief they were fighting to stop the tyranny of facsism, the people leading them either went "we fought the wrong enemy" or straight up gave some powerful nazis refuge post-ww2 in pure pragmatism, all to secure more capital or leverage against socialists
even Truman said the day after the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union "If we see that Germany is winning, we ought to help Russia, and if
Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as
possible"
>>727959what? that's not what that other person said at all.
>>727948The Korean and Vietnam Wars were just as morally bad as Iraq.
>>727954>The Pacific theater was fucked up all around.Okay I agree there
>>727956>Read some primary fucking historical documents, Americans never gave a single shit about "saving the world from fascism." That bullshit was spun up years later, retroactively.You sound like a liberal talking about the Soviet involvement but in reverse! How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that you should honor WW2 vets in America just because they were “probably capitalists and the government that they were fighting for didn’t care about stopping fascism even though they did” that’s so fucking stupid. So you if you don’t want to honor people who killed Nazis then go ahead but I will.
>>727950>>727948Hey now. Lets not forget the part where the US and UK openly funded the Nazi party of which was actually inspired by Amerikkkan racism to start with. Dragging their fucking tails and eventually getting involved in WW2 was the least USA could do at the time.
>>727972>The Korean and Vietnam Wars were just as morally bad as Iraq.Yeah I agree, in fact they even might be worse because the governments that America fought were actually good unlike Iraq
>>727980
>Hey now. Lets not forget the part where the US and UK openly funded the Nazi party of which was actually inspired by Amerikkkan racism to start with. Dragging their fucking tails and eventually getting involved in WW2 was the least USA could do at the time.Yes I know, but I still think WW2 veterans should be celebrated because imagine if America didn’t join the war and instead sided with Germany which many oligarchs wanted to do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_PlotThis is why FDR was such an important figure because even though he was a lib he didn’t capitulate to the fascist movements in the country the way they did in Europe.
>The average WWII Veteran:
>After graduating high school, I was conscripted into the armed services
>Didn't really want to go or care but considering that my job prospects were being a mechanic or farmer, I just went along with it
>Went overseas to fight for some shit I didn't really care about
>Literally only here because I don't want to go to prison or be viewed as bitchmade by the women in my town and peers in the middle of Nowhere, IA
>Did I mention I'm super fucking racist and absolutely despise NI-
>Refused to serve alongside them and actively antagonized them while deployed
>Made sure they knew their place by spitting on them at home and abroad and making sure they knew we weren't equal despite fighting for our lives together
>At times I was so racist that I even made the soldiers of allied colonial states blush lmao
>Once made a gristle Belgian sergeant with 4 deployments to the Congo blush by telling him what I thought about NI-
>I fucking hate NI-
>Anyway, I was so glad to finally reach France
>The people loved us and I enjoyed all the war gratuities I procured
>Still remember getting a blowjob from this beautiful French girl
>All for just one can of spam from my K-ration!
>Never had as much sex as when I was stationed in France
>Oh, and when I returned home I got a super cush job at the post office and bought a massive house for like $3 and a firm handshake
>And don't even get me started on the massive social safety net (which negro servicemen were denied lmao) that made all of this possible
>I fucking hate NI-
>Did I mention I moved to a new town in the middle of Bumfucknowhere, AK to beat my wife and vote against the desegregation of our country
>So cash
>Oh, and btw I fucking hate social safety nets and will dedicate my soul to breaking and leeching off them until I croak
>Personal responsibility
>Bootstraps
>MAGA!
>ack–
>The average GWOT Veteran:
>Raised middle class, although at times I certainly felt poorer because of austerity measures and porkie capture of the state
>Never really political but ended up joining the National Guard as a underwater basket weaving specialist for free college money, job training, and extra spending money
>Figured it would be cool to help out my community in times of disaster
>My unit somehow got deployed to a fucking desert shithole I've never heard of
>Didn't even realize that the national guard fought, let alone would make up nearly 50% of US forces deployed in the GWOT at peak times during the war
>Really don't even want to be here
>Only went because I didn't want to go to prison or be viewed as bitchmade by my peers and the women in my town
>Ended up getting into a few firefights, I guess, against some insurgents and I have no clue if I even killed anyone because my entire squad lit them up
>Got blown up by IEDs while running convoys a few times
>That shit sucked and I was glad to come home to utilize my GI Bill and VA home loan to solidify my place in the middle class
>For now
>Bought a lot of Gruntstyle shit and molle packs so that people TMFMS
>Oh and I've got bad knees, vertigo, and night terrors and my GF cheated on me
>>727952>America became the world’s worst country as soon as the war endedthe Blood Meridian settler country that did a civil war to protect the right to rape their slaves
>>727978>Do you think America killed 1 million German POWs after WW2?Seems on its face like nazi cope doing "we wuz holocaust victims"
>>727948ending the draft postponed american revolution. now american army is filled with VOLUNTEER imperialists rather than anti-war hippies who are dragged kicking and screaming to the draft office, forced into an imperialist war, and then turn on their master in disgust.
in ukraine they frag their commanders for being tyrants, and their commanders frag them too for not advancing. after this war is over there will be proletarian revolution in ukraine from all the bitter soldiers and no future.
in america the most "leftist" vets are touchy redditor guys who were medics and don't want to get lumped in with the fascists because "umm i'm just trying to help uwu, poverty is the draft dontcha know"
>>728011 (me)
>in america the most "leftist" vets are touchy redditor guys who were medics and don't want to get lumped in with the fascists because "umm i'm just trying to help uwu, poverty is the draft dontcha know"I had this in mind specifically
>>727950They fought to make sure europe survived so they could pay back loans
>>728019>>728021>>728023Uhoh the US army schizo is back
>>728025I am certainly not who you think I am. Additionally, what did I say that was incorrect?
I hate:
>What if the Nazis won!
alternative media.
There is no way the Nazis would ever win. Even if they never got into war with the USSR.
America would bitch slap their ass. The A-Bombs were first intended for the Germs. We would've steam-rolled your ass in every scenario.
>>727978>The victims undoubtedly number over 800,000, almost certainly over 900,000 and quite likely over a millionThis is not the way a scholar writes, lol.
All Westoid vets are Nazis, no exceptions.
All participants of WW2, except for communists in China, Indochina, Yugoslavia and elsewhere and Soviets (maybe Spanish anarchists), were Nazis.
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