I think I’ll get some interesting answers because I notice for the most part that only the most Lefty and cuckservative countries have it and only lib countries don’t. It’s like a real horseshoe theory if you take it out of context.
>>737135Personally I believe that the death penalty is good. Some people don't deserve to live, pedophiles, rapists, the like. Letting them survive is an affront to society,
I don't think it's plausible for them to be "saved", because they, to our mammal brains, are natural threats. I think that wanting it abolished is ridiculous and more proof of someone who wants things for the short term; somebody who I'd known hated the death penalty and would court with idpol all day.
The death penalty is required, for the good of society as a whole. It does cost a lot of money, but keeping them alive would cost more, and they don't deserve to be kept alive. Political prisoners don't deserve the death penalty though, but any porky involved in financial crimes requires their head cut off. Drugs? Yes, I believe people should be murdered for consuming a few of them. People rarely think of the family of the executioners or their lifestyle.
it's bad, but more fundamentally, it reflects a weak state lacking in the ability to do something less drastic, like most 'authoritarian' measures.
a state confident that you can't bribe or break your way out of the prison system has no
need to execute anyone. a state lacking some confidence, but with a basically functional judiciary can give you a fair-ish trial, then send you off to the gallows. a state totally lacking in functionality needs to have you summarily executed because they can't trust you won't bail before getting to court.
>>737141the problem with this line of thinking is that it assumes a judicial system capable of ascertaining guilt with 100% accuracy. does a murder-raping paedophile banker deserve to live? you don't have to be insane to think "no", but it takes a certain insanity to say: "and to make sure he dies, every so often we'll have the state murder some innocent people."
>>737144I agree, There have been people who received the death penalty who deserved it like ᴉuᴉlossnW, Ion Antonescu, Joachim von Ribbentrop, or Hideki Tojo (I still think that a peace treaty should of happened with Japan but still), but only people at that level of pure evil deserve it. All I know is that under capitalism it can never be done correctly, weather it can be under communism is a whole other can of worms but we should all agree that under capitalism it can’t.
i dont think it should exist except for an insanely small percentage of violent criminals, like serial killers, and not out of revenge, just because those people will always be a threat to society
I think everyone should receive it, even if they aren’t criminals
communism doesnt concern itself with bourgeois policy but wanting to give the government even more power is pretty retarded when the proletariat stands a lot to lose from it
>>737135good under a proletarian dictatorship
bad under capitalism
Good if i decide who dies
Else it is bad
>>737155In a matter of speaking we all receive it in the end
the death penalty is bad, even for rapists and murderers (who arent really worthy of being considered a separate class of criminals anyways, outside of maybe war criminals and the like)
>>737178>>737182Leaving your shopping cart outside of the cart corral and in a parking spot should be automatic execution. All store greeters will be armed and ready for action. Imagine your final moments being some little old lady shooting you in the Wal Mart parking lot . Just put the fucking shopping cart where it belongs damnit!
one of the big problems of the death penalty is that once you pass that treshold of legality,there is nothing to look for in legal society,so a criminal of that caliber will NEVER want to get caught no matter what he has to do,at that point they can kill and steal anything they want,it don't matter,there is no parole and good boy behavior in jail.
it's the rubicon,and if you cross it,you're living the fugitive life (and doing even more crimes) or you die (people don't want that for some reason?)
It's good when we do it on counter revolutionaries, it's bad when reactionaries do it on us.
>>737269Most criminals are stupid af
Imagine a bunch of chuds band together and shoot up a place, let's say a Communist party meeting. They kill hundreds, possibly thousands of people, some get killed in the shootout, but most survive and start taunting the authorities they killed a lot of "commie subhumans" and got away with it because leftoids are too soft to execute a criminal. The chuds live comfortably for the next 70-80 years and die happy that they did what Hitler wanted of them.
Find me arguments why they don't deserve to be executed.
>>737473some people would argue killing them is too soft and advocate for lifelong torture and/or body mutilation (especially genitals when it comes to pedophiles)
>>737135Seems overrated. There are FAR worse fates than death.
>>737481>>737473I still advocate for dearth penalty
Criminals are still housed, fed, and clothes from law-abiding citizens’ tax dollars
Not all criminals are equal in terms of severity
I hate how incarceration doesn’t segregate criminals based on their charge
Drunk drivers are put in the same camp as shoplifters.
Gangsters who killed an enemy gang are housed with serial killers
>>737475>>737484Do the chuds in question deserve the capital punishment or no?
>>737564What is your definition of a “chud”?
If it’s someone who “does not agree with my leftist takes”, then no.
But if it’s someone who shoots up schools, malls, churches just because why cannot get a “morally and racially pure tradwife” then yes
>>737564Absolutely. No chud no problem.
>>7374731. "deserving" is a stupid concept
2. if you kill them they just become martyrs. (look at Otoya Yamaguchi, and he only killed one electoralist!) take pictures of them in prison at their lamest, most boring, most mundane moments and post those online and that's far worse optics than sending them to the walls with a KDR massively in their favor.
>>737564deserving remains a meme concept. what they deserve, presumably, is for a random leftist to shank them in jail. that way the judicial system keeps its hands clean and you wind up having everyone know they died to a sharpened toilet brush.
now put it this way: does a random socdem who happened to be in the area the time deserve to be executed for the crimes of these chuds on the basis that somewhere between you, in the president's seat, and them, the citizen, a sprawling bureaucracy and clock-punching police force figured it was easier to pin the crime on them than it is to catch the real perpetrators? does it make you feel good to know someone died for this outrage, even if it becomes increasingly clear over time (to the early, credibility-damaging denial of the authorities…) that the state just boosted the chud kill count by 1.
>>737642>1. "deserving" is a stupid conceptElaborate?
>>737642On the other hand the imprisoned chuds can release their racist Nazi rants and rally more Nazis.
Also randos getting executed because the authorities find it easier than to find the actual perps wouldn't happen under socialism.
Also also succdems are crypto Nazis and deserve to die either way.
killing is badong
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