/siberia/ - Off-topic

I guess because the body shape of their fat.
Most fat people have an oversized gut and a flat board hindquarters and skinny legs

Some people like thick guys. Just like some people like thick chicks

>>737423
not west exclusive, my boyfriend says he thinks tony soprano is hot. some people just like the powerful masculinity of that kind of person I guess, even if they're fat.

>>737423
>why did nippon like them chonky and burly?
Starvation was commonplace and being thin was a sign of poverty.

>>737518
There a difference between thick and fat

>>737522
I mean sure, true, but neither this Sumo guy or Tony are 'ideal' male specimens from the classical attractiveness standards.

>why were women attracted to a guy who projected power, ferocity and self-assurance?
Attractiveness is literally about vibes and it's pathetic that people still don't understand this. Classical aesthetics are bs, it's not about matching up to an eternal divine ideal, everything is semiotics and psychology.

>>737529
Half right

Attractiveness is looks and vibes

>>737529
exactly. same reason why 50 shades of grey is considered a pussy-drenching romance but if mr. grey had been poor it would have been a horror thriller.

>>737533
>if mr. grey had been poor it would have been a horror thriller.
Funny because its true.

It's because they look like a big baby.

>>737521
i'd like to think of it in the same sense as signs of attractivness and status in europe
just as in europe a woman whose skin was white and hair was blonde and long was a sign she stays in doors and afforded ointments for her hair, in japan being that fat, well-built means you eat good, got all the food to live a good life wrestling

>>737532
Looks matter only insofar as they relate to vibes. That's why a potato-nosed, chubby, balding wop (I can say it) like Gandalfini was able to come across as hot. Nothing about him was objectively attractive detached from his vibes, but he made it work, he overcame it with his vibes. But looks still matter because 99% of people who look like him would not have been able to pull it off.

Here is some paleolithic gooner porn if you can handle it.

>>737590
AWOOGA

Bloatmaxxing is timeless

>>737588
That’s kinda what I am saying
That’s why people say ugly/fat guys are the best comedians.
No one would want to date them if it weren’t for their wit.

Lookism is a non-issue when it’s in the dating market
People who complain about lookism are often the biggest enforcers of it.
Most people think themselves as needing better than they deserve

“Never settle for less”, “be yourself”, ladies/guys like it when you (insert peculiar gesture here)”

It’s all about presentation.

People complain about romance and sex being like a shopping market.
Well guess what?
IT WAS ALWAYS LIKE THAT!!!!

Most people are mediocre in looks, talent, assets, wit, and even hygiene.
Yet, they expect that they should be loved unconditionally from the get-go outside of familial bonds?

>>737620
It's a fundamental contradiction of intimate relationships. Most people want ideal partners but most of us won't ever be able to be someone else's ideal partner no matter how hard they try.
The problem is that for previous systems of the "intimacy economy" this contradiction didn't come to light because people didn't have the illusion of choice. You at best married the best person from your social circle (your village, your fellow nobles, etc) and that was that. Now that the dating market is wide open we've convinced ourselves that we can cheat it, looksmaxx, etc. and when that fails for most of us we don't adjust our expectations – it's arguably not even possible – but instead shift to thinking that we can change the social status of men or women, or get robot gfs/bfs, etc.
I don't know how to fix this because I don't want to settle for the inbred daughter of the local dung farmer either, even though I'm the inbred son of the local butcher. Who does?

>>737638
> I don't know how to fix this because I don't want to settle for the inbred daughter of the local dung farmer either, even though I'm the inbred son of the local butcher. Who does?

The solution to the problem is let it fix itself.
If it cannot be fixed, then live with that
You don’t have to participate in the dating market
There’s also getting robotic sex dolls but unfortunately, people are too stuck-up/prickly to allow it freely.

>>737640
>If it cannot be fixed, then live with that
Well that's the problem, many people are not able to live with it and would rather burn everything down and institute an ultra-patriarchy or ultra-matriarchy to satisfy their needs. Is that ever going to be a serious issue? Probably not, but it's increasingly less fringe.

>>737643
Lookism in dating is a serious issue only because people make up strawmen, the “pedophilia” one being the most popular.
That’s used mainly by women, femboys cishomo males and transfemales whom are past prime-age and cannot accept defeat gracefully.

Or the BBC meme being pushed by 4chan chuds.

>>737643
Idealism begets Expectation
Expectation begets Entitlement
Entitlement begets Indignation
Indignation begets Psychosis

The fact that we as a species have the power to put flying machines in the vacuum of space to record the heavens in 4K and still waste our free time and money on mate selection despite marriage no longer being required in society tells me that humans don’t deserve freedom.

>>737423
Bisexuality is more common in women and women are attracted to the two (arguably) three boobs.

>>737643
Growing up we’ve been taught that love is good, lust is bad
I’m here to tell you: lust is bad, but love is much worse.
Lust is brief but it’s honest.
It’s only looking to enjoy the moment with as minimal drama as possible.
Lust is greedy but not selfish.
In fact, in lust, people can gain sense of appreciation for flaws/nuances of the other party that would not be possible in pre/post coital clarity.

Love on the other hand, is awfully picky. It doesn’t take much to turn off another person.
It’s not even just a matter of looks.
It’s also a matter of vibes.

In love, greed is low but selfishness is high.

You can be kind, smart, and suave and still be rejected because of some “essence” you lacked
Maybe it was because you disagrees with some opinion or the way you handled some one else.
Or maybe because you didn’t influence the other party’s pathos the way their previous partners did.

In love, you’re always fearful of not being good enough. It doesn’t matter how much the other party assures you of their loyalty, even if they proved themselves to you time after time.
If your pathos is off, it’s all for naught.

Another thing: growing up we’ve been taught that bookworms are the least judgemental of looks, while fashion enthusiasts are shallow.
Turns out, academia has the biggest discriminators of looks.
People whom are young, ethnic, female, neurodivergent, LGBT, fat, disabled, etc are patronized as mere token students but never allowed to be official speakers/professors in their own right.
Their intellect is always questioned.

>>737656
Did you respond to wrong post?
Also, proof that bisexuality is more common in women? Methinks female bisexuality is more accepted if not overpromoted due to patriarchy

>>737673
No sumo wrestlers have big boobs

It is the ideal male body. You might not like it, but it is what peak performance looks like.

Do sumo wrestlers shave all their body hair? Or are they just that hairless since most Japanese men don't seem to have that much body hair?

>>737533
kek

Chubby guys are great lovers and nice to cuddle

>>737681
I think japanese are the type of asian that are italy-tier when it comes to body hair
>>737423
You guys ever heard of yaoi hands or shoujo legs

>>737681
yes,they do shave it,they were even forced to shave beards in general because "indecent" beards were banned (good fucking luck if yours is fine,so they just shave)
also yes they have less body hair in general.
also the only other trivia about hair I know is that pubic hair on women is seen as being "adult",but with the western standard of shaving everything if you're a woman,it's a mixed bag.

>>737684
Proof?

>>737691
Tbh shaving off unnecessary body hair is based. I hate how mangled up body hair is seen as “mature” or “properly masculine”.
Beards are always sympathized to be unkempt
It shouldn’t.
There are many men who work heard to keep their beards hygienic and it’s unfair to give them a bad name

>>737684
I wish that the fatter you get the bigger your dick gets. It wouldn't help me get sex but it would be funny if that's how that worked.

>>737686
I’ve never heard of shoujo legs but I know about yaoi hands

>>737423
Last pic you can see how much muscle that guy has through his fat.

>>737521
On average Japanese men and women alike seem to think being thin is the hottest thing you can be otherwise though

>>737733
the couple in image 2 need a step ladder to have sex

on the internet everyone talks about unconventionally attractive people but irl the only people who get laid are hot young girls, twinks, and lean toned dudes

>>737777
nah,old people fuck each other all the time,in fact the majority of the population still has sex