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Comfort characters say "trans rights!" thread

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Idk what are trans rights?

>>748430
it's a hopelessly liberal formulation, there's no "rights"

it should be "trans protracted peoples' war"

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>>748431
Well I mean, liberals are all obsessed with laws and the constitution, regardless of whether they're reasonable laws or not. But having a constitution and laws isn't inherently liberal.

>>748431
>>748442
I'm being honest what are the rights they are fighting for? The only one I can think of that would require a constitutional amendment would be their ability to adopt.

>>748444
You could say that they abstractly have all the rights that other people also have already, including reluctant and obstructive access to healthcare, but this is flawed:
People with particular needs deserve "new" rights that uphold their needs.
To say that everyone has the same rights and therefore it is "fair" is pure liberal demagoguery:

You could say that everyone has an equal right to marry the opposite sex, so it's fair and gays have nothing to complain about.
Everyone has an equal right to own private property, so the proletariat doesn't have anything to complain about.

And that's just talking about "official", enshrined rights. The marginalized are subject to "extrajudicial" discrimination and oppression, that technically violate some rights or laws that are simply not enforced in their case, because the prejudice is systemic. It requires real, material power to force the "law" to apply to certain people whom it ignores.

Building such power and protection requires a degree of "hipocrisy": special treatment, DEI, affirmative action, etc. Eg, society has to recognize that there is no such thing as reverse-racism, only racism. To actually protect the racially discriminated, they have to have an enforced right to not be subject to racism, while not protecting the herrenvolk from "reverse-racism".

>>748446
So basically I should not limit my thought to legal terms. Because that's how I was thinking of it, what legally do they need. Unfortunately that is what a lot of people see it as.

>>748450
This is why "trans rights" is a bit murky, it takes rights for granted, as liberals do.
In reality, there's only struggle for recognition.


Kasane Teto says trans rights!!

>>748457
Leme correct that text:
May I ask how you spookify yourself to avoid causing unnecessary spookoria regardless of my crritique of spookger as a social construct?

>>748464
Are illnesses spooks?

>>748464
stirnerites are vulgar
they claim to reject abstractions, not realizing that abstractions have a rationale and realness that stems from real material conditions

at the same time they uphold the most vacuous abstraction of all: "ego"


>>748473
Stirner got BTFO by Plekhanov, none of his copes are admissible
Stirner is just Feuerbach extrapolated to the level of caricature (things turn into their opposites at the extremes, after all)

https://www.marxists.org/archive/plekhanov/1895/anarch/ch03.htm

tfw my comfort character VA is a retarded schizo chud

>>748480
Is Vergil's VA ridin' with biden to offset Dante's chuddery?

>>748446
actual lib diarrhea. Trans people or any minority do not suffer from 'systemic discrimination' because a rich transgender silicon valley worker is not subjected to the same pressure as a prole trans sex worker. This is not class reductionism, this is just living reality. When middle class shitters complained about reverse racism they more often than not complained about rich and politically connected layers of minorities getting sinecure in universities and other things associated with upward mobility just because of their minority status. It is basically competition over resources at the level of elite reproduction, because the average minority does not benefit from any DEI or affirmative action programs, and if you believe otherwise you basically believe in a form of trickle down economics where having minority elites improved the lot of minorities in general

>>748482

is he?

>>748446
>You could say that they abstractly have all the rights that other people also have already
Even this doesn't apply to trans people because they're explicitly banned from medical treatment that cis people (even cis children) have access to in parts of the USA, like breast augmentation surgery and hormone regulation treatment. Not to mention the effective ban from ALL public washroom in the UK.

>>748485

in another life i'm ridin' with the cartel

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>>748485
Cope, the USSR was the greatest DEI & affirmative action civilization in history.

>>748489
look ngga if you guys want to have access to intrusive surgeries for trans minors then you can't do this shit where you try to detach trans identity from clinical gender dysmorphia. Society needs to understand that being trans isn't just a matter of individual self expression but actual biological conditions, otherwise you will never, ever get society to agree to allow minors to undertake decisions that will permanently shape their approach to sexuality. It just will never happen.

>>748491
yes look at what happened because of that. Central Asia and the Caucasus is still today complete wreckages dominated by oligarchic families who were descended from those republican elites who benefited from Soviet DEI and surprisingly did not try to share the benefits to the rest of their countrymen. You think the fucking Aliyevs made Azerbaijan a better place? They couldn't even be expected to defend the Soviet system at the hour of its need

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>>748495
Central asian countries are now a post-industrial secular states with some minimal affordance of human dignity, and *some* social safety nets and public goods, thanks to the soviet DEI legacy that the oligarchs haven't managed to destroy and erode just yet.
They retain their culture and language and identity in some capacity, and even their territories from pre-imperial times.

Compare to what happened to feudal countries that were "shepherded" into modernity by the capitalist, colonial powers.

>>748485
Why are you comparing rich trans people to poor trans people? Compare them to cis people of their own class.
A child of a bourgeois or aristocratic parent who transhumanisted out can be shamed and kicked out by their own parents, without any money. If they were cis, this wouldn't happen.
Poor trans people are often NEET and constantly surf the internet, so they endure TONS of discrimination and suicide wishes. Those who choose to live IRL will endure discrimination in job interviews, or even just in college admissions.

I think, unironically, that the best right trans people could get is to get rid of all the sadists who drive them to suicide 24/7.

>>748508
Also the idea that there is a significant proportion of rich trans people is total psy-op. Most trans people are poor, exactly BECAUSE they're trans.

And even on the face of it it makes no sense: in CIS society, rich people are a minority. Therefore, rich trans people are also a minority.
DUH.

Rich trans people are overrepresented for the same reason the rich are overrepresented.

>>748508
>Why are you comparing rich trans people to poor trans people? Compare them to cis people of their own class.
>why are you comparing the bourgeoisie of India with the proles of India? Compare them with the bourgeoise of America. This is why we need DEI for Indian oligarchs so they too can hoard silver bullion futures like the American bourgeoisie
This is also a nonexistent scenario btw, look at Elon Musk's fucking trans daughter that he disowned. You think she's rotting in a crackhead's apartment and sucking cocks for 5 dollars now? She literally is a bonafide content creator and will probably get a cushy job in CNN soon
>Those who choose to live IRL will endure discrimination in job interviews, or even just in college admissions.
Prole trans people do not go to fucking colleges. I know this because we have crap tonne of prole transhumanists in this board who lived in the backwoods and none of them ever go to college. Stop trying to equate your cracker middle class ass trying to social climb via a college degree with working class trans people
as for job discrimination, i can sympathize with this. However this is a non issue because under a leftist program every working class person will be entitled to employment, making affirmative action basically irrelevant.

>>748513
>look at Elon Musk's fucking trans daughter that he disowned
Okay, so? If she weren't trans, she could be a billionaire thanks to her father's finances. Everything is relative.
I'm sure there are even more horrific stories of trans people abandoned by their parents ending up
>rotting in a crackhead's apartment and sucking cocks for 5 dollars

>>748512
Indeed. Does anyone know of even one transhumanist who is an aristocrat? Or at least a successful bourgeois?

>>748492
You're missing the part where these "intrusive" surgeries (breast surgery) are ALREADY AVAILABLE to cis minors. They're allowed to make these decisions. Cis girls can get breast augmentation or reduction. Cis men can get breast reduction surgery. Trans children cannot.

For the record I don't think these particular surgeries are really time sensitive the way HRT is, so making them only available for adults would be fine. The problem is the double standard of denying rights to trans people that cis people already have.

This thread is proof of why western left will always be weak faggots and never win

>>748535
people really be arguing about bullshit instead of posting comfort characters saying trans rights

>>748536
why didn't you make the thread in /lgbt/?

>>748537
I'm not OP


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>>748535
Go back to Bacha Bazi, Yahweh's cuck

>>748491
>>748502
strategic trvkenvke

>>748502
????
brother you can literally compare central asia with south asia. With the exception of Kazakhstan which is basically a Russian settler colony Central Asia is much shittier than West Asia, there is a fucking reason why everyone from these countries migrated to Russia to be discriminated migrant labour. This is the most out of touch western leftoid take ive seen in years

>>748590
Hey, it worked out for us (we're slightly above world average, making us net exploiters)

Shouldn't have fucked up your economy, bro

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Mods, permaban derailers in this thread.

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Carl Johnson says trans rights!

This aint about the word filter is it?

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Reimu says trans rights!

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HITLER SAYS TRANS RIGHTS!

>>748465
I don't think mental illnesses exist. Dysphoria is much as an illness as depression. There's the talking cure. The rest is biopolitical pseudoscience.


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