The brain development theory is just an excuse to infantilize prime age adults.
Neurophysiology doesn't automatically mean psychology.
The whole "25 is the new 18" is being promoted due to the average adult in postmodern era being a sad willful loser who wants to give up autonomy to save face from their loserdom.
I notice the people who support raising the age of majority are often those who willfully decided to waste their youth instead getting their shit together.
If we decide to delay adult hood until the mid twenties, parents will have more economic strain.
The retirement age will have to be raised to the eighties.
Schools will have to do more to accommodate more students who by right should be contributing to society.
We will have less vital-bodied workers which means more liability.
The brain development theory is just encouraging behavioral sink.
>et me fuck 15 year olds please pleeeease
>>752854>Criticising the brains development theory means you're a pedophile So you admit that you think young adults are helpless infants
>>752856>>Criticising the brains development theory means you're a pedophile yes.
>>752858How?
Why is it that anything discussion about young people is always automatically assumed to be sexual?
If anything, if you sincerely think my OP is sexual in nature, I think you're insecure and immature.
>>752854I wonder how this defense will get used for dowsing rods, evolutionary psycology and string theory.
during marx's time it was normal for 16 year olds to join the workforce. if only that were still the case so people were overall less retarded and sheltered
>>752851>The brain development theory is just encouraging behavioral sink.not many decades ago you had the neurodivergent fighting to be recognized as independent able-bodied adults now they are fighting to remain toddlers forever lmao
>>752854>>752858if anything wanting arrested development to be a more common phenomenon by letting people remain manchildren forever makes you more likely to be a rapist because it is much easier to manipulate vulnerable people lol
>>752984>i cant be an adult bc im not making 5 figurespeak amerilard rofl, pretty sure people who are forced to work unskilled labor mature faster than the multitude of engineer manchildren you see on places like reddit (or here)
>>752989What's wrong with engineers?
>>752992a necessary evil (unlike other educated professionals)
>I cannot see how you can speak of the ignorance of the masses in Germany after the brilliant evidence of political maturity shown by the workers in their victorious struggle against the Anti-Socialist Law. The patronizing and errant lecturing of our so-called intellectuals seems to me a far greater impediment. We are still in need of technicians, agronomists, engineers, chemists, architects, etc., it is true, but if the worst comes to the worst we can always buy them just as well as the capitalists buy them, and if a severe example is made of a few of the traders among them — for traders there are sure to be — they will find it to their own advantage to deal fairly with us. But apart from the specialists, among whom I also include schoolteachers, we can get along perfectly well without the other “intellectuals.” The present influx of literati and students into the party, for example, may be quite damaging if these gentlemen are not properly kept in check.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_08_21.htm >>752989I work full time and still can't afford rent. I don't know a single adult friend that can actually afford their own place.
>>753010? reread my post until you get it
>>752851>Neurophysiology doesn't automatically mean psychology.Clarify this. Do you believe there is some kind of separate spirit outside human biology?
>>753012not all neurophysiological theories automatically imply specific psychological traits or behavior patterns and neuroplasticity just means the brain continues to adapt and change throughout life but midwits who only consoom pop science drive discourse
>>753027>Middle classLook man, I just need shelter and food
>>753034That's just a sharteen trying to shut the tor node down, just report and move on.
>postmodern era being a sad willful loser who wants to give up autonomy to save face from their loserdom.
zero-historical materialism radlibs really believe they can lecture anyone, you sound like one of Jeffrey Epstein's bourgeois friends
>behavioral
sage all soy neoliberal threads you see
>>753033well the problem isn't with maturity per se but with the fact that we tie in societal benefits with a conception of maturity (because of Kant yada yada yada)
This means that in practicality, your suggestion of delaying the onset of legal maturity means that we need to raise the voting age, the age barrier for legal drinking, for driving, for arms ownership, for permanent job contract , etc etc.
And when we combine this with modern sciences increasing our lifespan, we are dealing with a society controlled by a group of 70 to 100 year olds, with an entire generation of young people being denied political and indeed individual franchise because they are not considered mature yet. Yes this means you, (yes, (you)) will have to listen to your dad and mom until you are in your mid 30s. Do you want that fucking scenario?
>>753061>Yes this means you, (yes, (you)) will have to listen to your dad and mom until you are in your mid 30s. Do you want that fucking scenario?Too late this already happened to me. It's over.
>>752989>>753027what is the point of maturity if my life is ass? I'm not buying the bullshit that I just have to learn to take it, I will not take it, I will not just accept the hand I'm dealt because it is the 'adult' thing to do.
the truth is I'm getting ripped off, and I will not power through it, fuck you.
>>753033Even if this were true, there’s a limit to what nature can do. And if I recall, people complain about declining academic scores.
This idea of slowing down maturation to allow for more intelligence is paradoxical.
Also, it’s gonna up a huge strain on society by forcing young adults to remain like toddlers.
>>753103Then you can be left on the streets to starve. Wanting to extend childhood to cope with your low prospects is what makes people more vulnerable.
>>752980This.
People think allowing young adults any freedom is encouraging rape of young adults.
Yet, most cases of grooming are often socially maladaptive young people who willfully run off with the wrong crowd due to social deprivation
Leftists and liberals claim to champion equality but then wanna shut down young people.
>>753016This.
It’s sad that urban myths have become the cornerstone of intellectual conversation for average people.
It’s not just the brain development theory but also others such as “all life begins female in the womb”.
>>753061>Yes this means you, (yes, (you)) will have to listen to your dad and mom until you are in your mid 30s. Do you want that fucking scenario?Millennials and Gen Z seem to want that surprisingly enough.
All the therapy speak culture about “trauma” and helicopter parents and stranger danger and sexlessness has sapped them of their will of live.
Why else is “adulting” a thing?
>>753111I would think I would kill myself before that but then again I'd be too useless to do that too.
>>753424And? Still voluntarism
>>753539Rot away on the streets then
here comes the "parenting" and the state trying to infantilize the young people into vulnerable weaklings
>>753540Still voluntarism. You WILL rot away in a trench in a future war.
>>753115>sapped them of their will of liveI can think of multiples reasons that are incredibly more direct and material that cause this instead of random discourse
>>753564Adults seem incapable of appreciating their own age without patronizing their juniors.
They always have to refer to young people as "kids" or get offended by young people having bad days or having worldly desires.
This Philosophy that "youth is innocence" is just fear and hatred of aging and responsibility. I think it's just older people being afraid of getting left behind.
Yet, by infantilizing their juniors, that means the elders have to sacrifice more of their self value to rear the young which means they end up being left behind in nursing homes because there's no competent prime age adults willing to take them in.
>>753574Those material conditions are part of it as well. The economy and job market is influenced by paternalistic psychology though
>>753103This is why procreation should not be a free adult privilege. In fact ,the reason why life sucks ass is because of the neolib philosophy of adulthood as a customer rewards program.
If you cannot cook, clean, build/fix machinery, etc, you should not be allowed to have kids.
Too many dysfunctional families in the first world are due to adults with low skill sets getting married and having kids.
Marriage is a career as is childrearing.
See how common it is to fuck up your spouse and offspring?
Too many adults feel that their physical age is proof enough of competency for allowance of family planning.
We are seeing an era where many people up until their forties live on fast food, don't know how to basic automobile maintenance, they don't know home improvement, they dump home maintenance duty on the spouse, they don't teach their kids anything.
They just dump the kids onto the teachers to raise.
>>752975>during marx's time it was normal for 16 year olds to join the workforce. if only that were still the case so people were overall less retarded and shelteredWork is seen as a punishment. Adulthood in general is seen as exile from Eden.
I blame pop culture.
>not many decades ago you had the neurodivergent fighting to be recognized as independent able-bodied adults now they are fighting to remain toddlers forever lmaoIt's not neurodivergents wanting to be treated as eternal toddlers nowadays, it's neurotypicals advocating to treat them as eternal toddlers so that neurotypicals can get some.of that coddled treatment
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>>754003It's only been 45. Minus any that have been deleted
>>752851Sorry you hate science.
Brain development or not, under 25 is too young to be a parent in this day and age.
>>754001Marx's day was definitely the lowpoint of the modern era. This is the time of Charles Dickens, London covered in smog, orphans running amok, literacy being a luxury, it was a shit time and in NO way something to aspire towards or be inspired by.
>>754011You use the algorithm for that smart ass reply?
>>754035Being a smart ass is how I cope.
>>754013>Brain development or not, under 25 is too young to be a parent in this day and age.Only because people are willfully immature. Lack of home training and scorn for blue collar skills caused it.
Also, neuroscientists even say that the brain doesn't finish development at 25.
Becoming a new parent past age thirty five is asking for trouble.
By your logic, soon 35 will be too young for parenthood
>>754016I'm not glorifying the work conditions. I'm just talking about the general animosity towards work in our current era.
The ridiculous amount of liability laws that hinder any proper maturation for young people.
>>754013blud you can complete a Master's degree by the time you're 24. What is this actual stupidity
>>754051Anon is just the typical NPC that lowkey wants to extend childhood to hide their delayed maturity.
Also, it's interesting that these same people think relationships and homesteading are considered too heavy for young people but think nothing wrong with forcing them to do abstractional non technical schoolwork for hundreds of hours
>>754051the reason why people can no longer choose to have families in their early (or even late) 20s is because of capitalism and the broken way our system approached urban planning. Instead of critiquing this system liberals:
1. Say that it is normal to not be able to form families early because you're too immature for that (no we're not)
2. Say that if you criticize the system you want to force people and queers to have kids (no we're fucking not)
3. Say that its ok actually because antinatalism is based (ok, your right to believe whatever you want, but we're not talking about you!)
Example number 10 thousand of libs reaffirming capitalism in progressive language instead of confronting it
>>754058that's honestly a very good point. Uni especially is designed to be as complex as possible so you are prepared to confront the real world and pay your taxes.
>>754040Well youre just a liar and cant cope very well
>>754065Uni is complex for the wrong reasons. Irony is, the more educated a person is, the less skilled they are in real life matters such as paying taxes, talking to the opposite sex without awkwardness, or even cooking.
>>754061Also, university and college are being aggressively sold as to further institutionalize adolescence, which is already an institutional effect rather than a biopsychochronological effect
You uyghurs learn the brain stops growing at 25 or something from school? Yet you post nothing about very real complications of brain degeneration. Why is this?
>>754087Be cause that would be "ableism"
Older adults and disabled adults don't like able bodied young adults having autonomous prospects
>>754087Yeah 🍔 high school hammered that myth in pretty frequently to scare kids into going to college immediately (likely taking out a loan) before their brain turns off at the magic number.
>>754696That’s part of it
It’s more to scare kids out of wanting relationships and cars and big money careers. And for adults to patronize their juniors for having different opinions
op is right and infantilization happens so that the gerontocrats can manipulate the young into believing they have no strength or wisdom. the revolution lies with the youth.
>>754710It’s more the self deceptive philosophy that youth is automatic innocence, that youth is not supposed to be worldly.
Ever notice how people take offense to a child that’s precocious but they delight in kids whom display naïveté?
It’s no different from men wanting women to be weak and meek and sleek
We get: you want to join the porkies on Epstein Island and diddle little girls. Turn yourself in and go to a mental asylum, Diddystein.
>>756562Are you insecure about younger people being able to start their lives at a more efficient age rather than wasting away as an eternal infant?
That's why you assume OP is about "pedophilia"?
>>753712If you want to ban certain people from having kids it's eugenics and we don't do that anymore; rightoids can easily weaponize it to argue that only huwhite cishets should be allowed to breed too.
>>75658195% of people whining about this brain development theory are just Diddys who want an excuse to creep on middle schoolers.
Also Peddit spacing.
>>756680>95% of people whining about this brain development theory are just Diddys who want an excuse to creep on middle schoolers.>Also Peddit spacingSo you think addressing concerns about the maturational decay of young people due to increased liability laws is equivalent to "advocating for pedophilia"?
This kind of logic is why we have so many dysfunctional people.
Also, why is using paragraphs considered "Reddit spacing"?
Do you enjoy run-on sentences and topical deviation?
If Reddit did anything right, it's paragraph spacing.
>If you want to ban certain people from having kids it's eugenics and we don't do that anymore; rightoids can easily weaponize it to argue that only huwhite cishets should be allowed to breed too.You have no problem with allowing adults with no home training, no hygiene, no money, no empathy to breed and abuse/neglect their kids to the point where teachers complain about it constantly?
Yet you have no problem with restricting able bodied sound mind young adults from adult activities?
Why is leftism always catering towards loserdom?
>>756912What adult activities are kids barred from?
>>758070You're confusing young adults for kids again.
"Muh brain development" is used against young people from exercising autonomy without being patronized.
>>752851>The brain development theory is just an excuse to infantilize prime age adults.we are apes whose minds have been colonized by L A N G U A G E, nig
>>758095So you think people in their early twenties should be treated like infants?
That adulthood should be postponed until age thirty/thirty-five?
>>753712>If you cannot cook, clean, build/fix machinery, etc, you should not be allowed to have kids.Can you do any of those or are you just a chud who's mad that the normiefags are getting laid and you aren't?
Agree. There are so many adult losers out there it's unbelievable. People in their 30's with the mentality and entitlement of a teenager.
>>758629>People in their 30's with the mentality and entitlement of a teenager.Idk if entitlement is a thing in teens except the spoiled ones
Also, adolescence is a cultural creation not a biopsychological creation.
But yea I see what you mean
>>758622Why does everything always have to be sex with you guys? Especially since you complain about how people are being dumbed down and are unable to satisfy you intellectually and sexually
Also, basic life skills was the requirement for child rearing but nowadays, child rearing is seen as automatic right
>>758670Because most people whining how most should be banned from having children for supposed lack of skills are just chinlets seething that normies can get laid and they can't.
>>758670>basic life skills was the requirement when ? rich fucks always had nannies to do the job for them
>>758975 (me)
or maybe you mean making the child learn life skills (which while true,is also so they work for you,which is part of why child labor was resisted by poor families who were gonna have to no longer destroy their children's back at 12 in the farm or the neighboring coal mine :( )
>>758973Chinlet's are more racially motivated in their screening.
>>758975That's because they're rich and can house the nanny.
>>758977Children should learn life skills as well.
In fact, education should be primarily blue collar
>>759017Who will decide who gets to marry and have kids and why do you think they'll take advice from some commie NEET?
>>760173Newgene will decide
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