/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>758266
>how many did Stalin and Mao actually kill?
150 trillion kulaks.

>>758266
1. You
2. Your mother
3. Hitler

I think the reason Hirohito isn’t up there with Hitler or even surpassing him is because many narratives regard him as having been a mere powerless figurehead of the military. Which could have been true, most of Japanese history saw emperors being puppets of the military(the shogun). And there’s no memorable figure from the Japanese military to blame it all on instead, so as a result imperial Japan doesn’t enter the “man who killed le most” discussion.

Which is super retarded, it’s not like Stalin personally ate all the grain with a big spoon or Hitler personally shot every Jew, it’s the system they led. So this whole “most evil man” thing is retarded libslop in the first place, if we instead talk about which EMPIRES killed the most people, the top 3 would probably be Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and British Empire, not necessarily in that order. Spanish empire is probably up there too due to all those South American natives. Perhaps America if we combine the Native American casualties and all the African slaves who died, though those are difficult to quantify.

>>758333
>And there’s no memorable figure from the Japanese military to blame it all on instead, so as a result imperial Japan doesn’t enter the “man who killed le most” discussion.
People talk about Hideki Tojo. Americans used to call Japanese Tojos, during the war even.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Tojo#Arrest,_trial,_and_execution
<After Japan's unconditional surrender in 1945, U.S. general Douglas MacArthur ordered the arrest of 43 individuals suspected of war crimes, including Tojo.[93] As American soldiers surrounded Tojo's house on September 11, he shot himself in the chest with a pistol, but missed his heart.[94]

<As he bled, Tojo began to talk, and two Japanese reporters recorded his words: "I am very sorry it is taking me so long to die. The Greater East Asia War was justified and righteous. I am very sorry for the nation and all the races of the Greater Asiatic powers. I wait for the righteous judgment of history. I wished to commit suicide but sometimes that fails."[95]
Kinda funny nobody really talks about how Japan considered themselves the saviors of the Asia anad Asians.

<Tojo accepted full responsibility for his actions during the war and made this speech:
>It is natural that I should bear entire responsibility for the war in general, and, needless to say, I am prepared to do so. Consequently, now that the war has been lost, it is presumably necessary that I be judged so that the circumstances of the time can be clarified and the future peace of the world be assured. Therefore, with respect to my trial, it is my intention to speak frankly, according to my recollection, even though when the vanquished stands before the victor, who has over him the power of life and death, he may be apt to toady and flatter. I mean to pay considerable attention to this in my actions, and say to the end that what is true is true and what is false is false. To shade one's words in flattery to the point of untruthfulness would falsify the trial and do incalculable harm to the nation, and great care must be taken to avoid this

<Tojo was sentenced to death on November 12, 1948, and executed by hanging 41 days later on December 23, 1948, a week before his 64th birthday.[101] In his final statement, he apologized for the atrocities committed by the Japanese military and urged the American military to show compassion toward the Japanese people, who had suffered devastating air attacks and the two atomic bombings.[102]
He said sorry at least.

<For years, there was mystery surrounding the fate of Tojo's remains. In 2021, the fate of his remains were declassified and published by the U.S. Army: after his execution, Tojo's body was cremated and his ashes were scattered over the Pacific Ocean approximately 30 miles (48 km) east of Yokohama from a US Army aircraft on the afternoon of December 23, 1948, along with the ashes of six other Class-A war criminals.[103]
Just like Bin Laden.

<Historians Herbert P. Bix and John W. Dower criticize the work done by General MacArthur and his staff to exonerate Emperor Hirohito and all members of the imperial family from criminal prosecutions. According to them, MacArthur and Brigadier General Bonner Fellers worked to protect the Emperor and shift ultimate responsibility to Tojo

<According to the written report of Shūichi Mizota, interpreter for Admiral Mitsumasa Yonai, Fellers met the two men at his office on March 6, 1946, and told Yonai: "It would be most convenient if the Japanese side could prove to us that the Emperor is completely blameless. I think the forthcoming trials offer the best opportunity to do that. Tojo, in particular, should be made to bear all responsibility at this trial."

<The sustained intensity of this campaign to protect the Emperor was revealed when, in testifying before the tribunal on December 31, 1947, Tojo momentarily strayed from the agreed-upon line concerning imperial innocence and referred to the Emperor's ultimate authority. The American-led prosecution immediately arranged that he be secretly coached to recant this testimony. Ryūkichi Tanaka, a former general who testified at the trial and had close connections with chief prosecutor Joseph B. Keenan, was used as an intermediary to persuade Tojo to revise his testimony

<Some of Tojo's ashes were stolen from the crematorium and are today buried at Mount Sangane and the Koa Kannon.[109] His name is also enshrined at Yasukuni Shrine

<A number of his descendants survived, including his granddaughter, Yūko Tojo, who was a political hopeful who claimed Japan's war was one of self-defense and that it was unfair that her grandfather was judged a Class-A war criminal. Tojo's second son, Teruo Tojo, who designed fighter and passenger aircraft during and after the war, eventually served as an executive at Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.

<A 1997 survey of university students in China asked, "When somebody talks about Japanese people, what person do you think of?" The answer that most gave was Tojo

<In the 1998 Japanese film Pride, Tojo was portrayed as a national hero forced into war by the West and then executed after a rigged trial

> Hey, liberal! You did bad things.
< Oh, I'm sorry, it won't happen again.
> Hey, fascist! You did bad things.
< Oh, I'm sorry, but it's going to happen again.
> Hey, communist! You did bad things.
< NOOOOOO FAKE NEWS FALSE FLAGS UR PROOFS ARENT PROVING ANYTHING!!!
Why are commies like this?

>>758346
What should commies do then? Just not apologize and say it'll happen again?

>>758348
Well, at least it’s honest