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Considering that it seems few have commented on it (probably not to feed the guy's ego), I thought it would be germane to talk about this influencer. I'm sure you might have heard of him in his interview with Dasha at the redscarepod, or back when he debated (together with Haz al-Din) against Keith Woods and Joel Davis on the killstream on fascism vs communism where he roundly lost.

But to summarise: Logo_Daedalus is some wannabe communist influencer on Twitter known for being a pseudo-intellectual crank who talks about labor despite being a stay-at-home dad and living off of his wife and, together with gene-denialist Chris Morlock et al., he forms what I term as the "Logo-sphere": A network of idiosyncratic pseudo-intellectuals trying to reconcile communism and TEA party politics into one big meme.

Personally, I think Logo does say some interesting things from time to time like his takes on modern music, but overall he is mid (especially with politics) or outright delusional (as with Christianity).

If I had to describe him in a single sentence, it would be "linguistically fluent, but conceptually illiterate". Everyone has this issue, but with Logo it seems more extreme given his tendency to treat every concept as a meme ripe to fit into his incoherent worldview. I used to think he is smart until he talked about something that I'm more knowledgeable than him on. Case in point, he made a whole-ass thread on how gravity is satanic (yes really, just look through his feed for "electrogravity") while electromagnetism is le divine light of God, and then mumbled about electro gravity being this new "force", ending with citing a Wikipedia article on it. For context, "electro gravity" refers to a mathematical analogy between the forces of gravity and electromagnetism, not an actual force. So Logo was clearly pulling shit out of his ass just to sound clever. I could cite more examples, like how he tries to sound clever by citing American conservative interpretations of Orwell's 1984 as gotchas despite Orwell disagreeing with it back when he was alive, or how he harps on about the US founding fathers akshually were absolute monarchists by citing some random document. But I think Logo's relationship with marxism is more of interest.

A key example would be his attempts at reconciling Christianity as it exists with communism, where he often has to sideline the more inconvenient passages (e.g., the ten commandments, slavery, etc…) and selectively interpret Christian history in order to make his case, as well as going back and forth between Jesus being some meme or an actual historical figure.

Indeed, it's all the more ironic since he regards any church as "bourgeois" despite Christian communism and liberation theology being pioneered by said bourgeois church adherents, particularly the very Catholics he hates. As indicated in his interview with Dasha his understanding of Christianity is really unserious and shows a lack of understanding, such as when he answered to the question "What is hell?" with "Look at all those homeless people".

I'll have to bring up that, before the eventual block that comes to every one of his critics that show any degree of competency, that I confronted him on his bizarre Christian communist pseudo-intellectual pursuits in an attempt to make him admit he isn't a marxist, and what'd you think? Not only did he broke the first commandment, he also went on to blubber idealistic gibberish in-between trying to assert some continuity between Christianity and communism and being Machiavellian about it. It didn't work as he'd expect: https://xcancel.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1958609945521528853

After blocking me, he went on to post schizo-cope to sooth himself: https://xcancel.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1958992930615828526

I did managed to get another of my alts blocked by his account. The reason? I made a thread stating that if John Brown and William Blake were alive they'd be pro-trans, pro-BLM, and pro-Palestine, something that Logo didn't like considering that to him both John and William aren't actual people as much as fictional characters meant to validate his ideology (in his case, conservative and puritanical Christian communists going on a crusade to fight wokeness or whatever in the name of Stalin and Mao), which brings me to my next point: https://xcancel.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1984082176602993009

I think I won that out. Well, not that it matters since his he reverted back like a chameleon: https://xcancel.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/2021700822384660679

Maybe there are merits on integrating Christianity with communism both as a strategy and as an ideological project, but personally I don't see any since all of these attempts only ended up with reifying hierarchy and the church' status as arbiter of society.

This is to say: He really likes to play with dolls to own some imaginary enemy that he thought out of his head, much like Haz. Matter of fact, their ideological framework can be described as "capeshit" in that it's tied less to marxism and dialectical materialism and more with idealism and simplistic good vs evil narratives, since much like chuds they breath and analyse situations solely through memetics.

None exemplifies this than Logo's takes on baristas working for Starbucks, whom he claims aren't proletarian on the account of not being productive labor, unlike cookie manufacturing workers. And it's obvious that he sees it through a culture wars lens, using Marx like a doll to validate his views.

But here's the thing: Marx's definition of who is and isn't prole is very clear, and is based less on productivity and aesthetics than it is on the relationship between labor and capital, giving abstract examples like how a jester working for a baron wouldn't count as proletarian unlike actors that work for a film studio. Essentially: If baristas working for Starbucks aren't proletarian, neither are assemblymen at some Toyota plant since neither workers produce anything, merely put together other products to produce a finished product.

All in all, wether it's him blocking his critics and thus building up his own echo chamber, posting a load of bull at obscene rates, or just trying to sound clever by twisting others' content or recycling others' opinions as hot original takes, Logo is a good example of what happens to chuds when they come across communism with an open mind: They either integrate class analysis without letting it displace their racialism (like Eric Striker) or become total schizos (like Logo).

What do you guys think of the Logo-sphere?

very interesting stuff op, but i can't bring myself to care about a contrarian twitter celeb. this doesn't even have anything to do with politics.

>>760960

I get it. Still, I just found him as a case study to be interesting considering how a lot of the reactionaries who end up adopting class analysis either become like Logo or (as mentioned before) Eric Striker in my experience.

I think to some extent it's unavoidable as eventually, much like how only marxists can truly be atheists, only atheists can be truly communists since socialism among reactionaries is either sidelined in favor of idpol and mysticism or turned into some metaphysical project.

As for Logo himself? I don't think he is particularly relevant beyond his links to ACP leaders Jackson Hinkle and Haz Al-Din.

Not sure what you think of the ACP, but I find it suspicious how it got no investigations from the feds considering how Hinkle co-leads it from Russia.

>>760961
>Not sure what you think of the ACP, but I find it suspicious how it got no investigations from the feds considering how Hinkle co-leads it from Russia.
This is just wild speculation but perhaps the ACP is a fed op designed to function as a lightning rod to neuter socialists like the DSA. In ACP's case it's target are anti-idpol socialists.

>jester working for a baron wouldn't count as proletarian unlike actors that work for a film studio. Essentially: If baristas working for Starbucks aren't proletarian, neither are assemblymen at some Toyota plant since neither workers produce anything, merely put together other products to produce a finished product.

>The brainrot on this board sometimes reaches levels previously thought impossible.


Jesters and actors are not proletarians.
It does not mean they are bad, it just means they are not proles just like Teachers and other service sector + intelligentsia are. The proletarian IS defined by the sale of labor power for the production of SURPLUS value. Entertainment does not work in this way, because its value structure is fixed and depends on surplus pooling from the productive sectors.
The assemblymen at Toyota are Proletarians in a proletarian chain along with the guys to melted the metal, welded it etc. You have to look at the whole picture.
That being said, ACP hatred of baristas is wrong, and Cockshott in one of his videos shows that baristas are also part of the proletarian chain.

Please read this again and stop spouting neoclassical econ 101.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/commodity.htm

Haz and this dummy only did bad in that debate because they did zero prep. Anyone who has actually studied fascism and its economic policymaking would be able to destroy Keith or any other fascist in a debate but Haz went in literally with zero book knowledge since he was confident he could bluster his way through. If either of them read books they would be able to kill any fascist in a debate.

Maybe I'm the one who's out of touch but I feel like this guy's brief relevance as a provocateur for the online left has passed. I haven't heard anything about the "post-left" dipshits like him in a while.
Anyway, if you were on /lit/ during the early 2010s pretty much everyone there was like Logo, interested in being "literary" as an aesthetic but not nearly as well-read as they'd like to the point of having to make shit up and hide behind high concepts that they just barely understood. There's an infamous screenshot of him claiming to have read a book by Evola that does not exist which reasonably colors my entire view of him. At least his gay partner Kantbot was kind of funny sometimes when he wasn't trying to be insightful.

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>>760975

I think you’re referring to the pic here. Replying to one of Logo’s tweet with this pic is an assured way to receive a block from him LOL.

Speaking of which, I got this screen from a mutual who already has five alts of his blocked by Logo, for reasons like:

>Asking why is he obsessed with zoomers

>Praising ancient Roman civil traditions and contributions to legal systems
>Correcting him on basic facts about communism and the Soviet Union
>Telling him that sex positivity would triumph over Christian Puritanism and conservatism
>Outdoing him in debates

The thing about Logo is that his inability to admit being wrong often leads him to become increasingly irrelevant over time as he blocks any criticism from his feed. Now almost every reply on his TL is filled with sycophants.

As for him “predicting” things like the current re-alignment of the “dissident right” with Zionism? I think it’s not some superpower as much as him churning out so many tweets, often contradictory in nature, that make it so that whatever happens he can brag about it with “I told ya” whenever anything that slightly aligns with one of his asinine tweets occurs.

He's alright but does have a massive complex that is made worse with Internet access. Kantbot was the smarter of the duo and has since then checked out

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>>761051
Also you have to remember that Logo used to watch and follow pic related for years. If you watched Aurini's streams you will know what I am talking about when I see you can feel Aurini's snake like bullshittery in Logo's posts.

Nothing more has to be said about this retard

It's funny how he thinks he's a communist, but couldn't smell the larouchidm emanating from this fraud immediately

>>761054
>It's funny how he thinks he's a communist
As others have hinted at here, you have to realize that everything Logo (and those like him) does is about posturing as the smartest most esoteric boy first, and actually having useful or informed politics second. Identifying with other "off-beat" thinkers is a feature not a bug


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