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Marxists cannot say the n word but we are allowed to say ,jewish nigger'

People always mention those two words but the whole letter is hilarious

Lassale was calling Marx a bum and telling him he should prostitute his daughter to his face,he totally deserved the insult in a private letter

What would happen if you showed this to a Nazi? Like if you showed this to a liberal they would say “Well of course KKKarl Marx was racist!” But if you showed this to a Nazi this would brick his brain

>>763297
"Jew on jew violence"

I don't know how either, you've been in this board for how long and haven't heard the meme?

Marx was a troll and an edgelord. He pretended to believe in phrenology just to have easy insults against dumb people he didn't like. Though by his time, a lot of his behavior would be equivalent to today's "safe edgy" label, like calling people retards, inbred, pedophiles etc. uyghur just wasn't that strong of a word back then, despite its racist intent.
I'll also say this as trivia, not as an excuse: Marx was dark-skinned. He was nicknamed "The Moor" by his peers for having dark skin. And in that letter he insults Lassalle for having "kinky hair", even though Marx himself had dry, curly-ish hair in his earlier years.

>>763297
Nazis operate on vibes so they wouldn't give a shit.

>>763322
Jewry doesn’t really exist anymore

>>763370
>Nazis operate on vibes so they wouldn't give a shit

Name one ideology that doesn’t do that

>>763370
>Marx was a troll and an edgelord. He pretended to believe in phrenology just to have easy insults against dumb people he didn't like.

He did have superstitions himself though. A lot of intellectuals and writers often have deep seated superstitions.

>Though by his time, a lot of his behavior would be equivalent to today's "safe edgy" label, like calling people retards, inbred, pedophiles etc. uyghur just wasn't that strong of a word back then, despite its racist intent.

Language is mainly connotation. It’s not what you say but how you say it and whom you say it to.


>I'll also say this as trivia, not as an excuse: Marx was dark-skinned. He was nicknamed "The Moor" by his peers for having dark skin. And in that letter he insults Lassalle for having "kinky hair", even though Marx himself had dry, curly-ish hair in his earlier years

So it seems that Marx sounds like the typical twenty first century irony poster

no matter what you think of marx, you can't deny that he was truly ahead of his time

>>763376
you can find that general attitude in every movement but I don't think alot of ideologies adopt the explicitly anti-rationalist anti-enlightment sentimentality and romanticism of interwar fascists,perennialists,futurists and national syndicalists that the NDSAP emerged from. I mean as far as I can tell Sorels whole problem with Marx is that bro unironically advocated for "feels over reals" over materialism.

>>763370
>uyghur just wasn't that strong of a word back then
Isn’t it true that the euphemism “The N-Word” didn’t exist until the O.J. trials and white people would just say it in quotational contexts, that’s why Trump calls the word “Nuclear” the “N-Word,” because he was old in 90s.

Also why do people here say “Uygha” to substitute the N-Word? I hate to be the guy who’s too woke but I always found it to be a weird thing to do, it’s like that “Clanker” trend from a few months ago but worse and I think it stems from Xinjiang-denialism, don’t get me wrong it’s not a genocide, they were not organ harvesting, and it slowed down in 2020 even if it’s not all done but there was still collective punishment of an entire ethnic group as well as family separation and cultural repression.

>>763382
Uygher is a wordfilter. Staff are dengists.

>>763382
It's a wordfilter. Users don't write uyghur, it gets replaced by uyghur. This is done because chuds like to spam le funny word. Mods added the filter because while also frustrating uyghur spam, applying liberal concern trolling jargon to classical anti-black discourse makes for very funny results. This is also why uygha collaterally filters to uygha.

>>763377
>So it seems that Marx sounds like the typical twenty first century irony poster
Meaning his japes are harmless and not worth worrying about?

>>763386
Oh that makes sense, I didn’t know that they filtered it because I see the word unfiltered all the time

>>763386
my most proud achievement in life is suggesting the uyghur wordfilter to mods like 3 years ago

Oh my le god… commesisters… I just found out about this… it's over… we need to become AnCaps now.

>>763396
>my most proud achievement in life is suggesting the uyghur wordfilter to mods like 3 years ago
Great achievement Anon! My greatest achievement on this website was when the Mods tweeted my C̶h̶r̶i̶s̶t̶m̶a̶s̶ Holiday card without me even submitting to to the Original Content thread

>>763284
why is marx talking like bullhorn from black dynamite ?

>>763400
damn you draw? thats a pretty cute alunya

>>763400
this is a sparkly gem from the gulags

>>763411
>>763417
Thanks Anons

>>763382
>Xinjiang-denialism
lib
>it’s not a genocide, they were not organ harvesting
that's right
>and it slowed down in 2020
there was nothing to "slow down"
> there was still collective punishment of an entire ethnic group as well as family separation and cultural repression.
fuck off. their birth rates didn't decrease. muslim majority nations sent delegations and determined there was no genocide. CIA fuckers backed ETIM, a terrorist and separatist group, for decades in the region. rather than bombing the shit out of them like americans china reeducated them. just hang yourself now. nobody has to take delicate hands with religious extremists. bolsheviks would have burned down every mosque and make them read a fucking book that wasn't abrahamic nonsense.

>>763382
lib lib lib

>>763468
>>763467
You guys are stupid, I never called it a genocide and I never denied that the west funded terrorists but placing around one million of them in detention centers is not the way to go about it. Obviously there were SOME cases of forced sterilization and sexual violence although I acknowledge that it was NOT state sanctioned, I know that it is a liberal bias that the media talks about this and not any of the actual genocides that America has committed but still, and it is not okay to be Islamophobic because Marxism is a secular ideology, Marx said that religion would fade away but never encouraged people to suppress religion.

>>763386
I do literally write uyghur sometimes (well used to, dont really do it those days), and I never used the polyp word to get wordfiltered

>>763470
So true we should just let these fanatics blow themselves up and sabotage the BRI because heckin minorities never should have to recon with their own culture.

>>763470
>detention centers
the education centers were basically schools, with mandatory attendance but you could go home every day. There were some more serious with detention for actual radicalized people, but obviously way less people went through those

>Obviously there were SOME cases of forced sterilization
0 proof of this, you're just spouting baseless accusation and spreading propaganda

>and sexual violence
0 proof of this, you're just spouting baseless accusation and spreading propaganda

>it is not okay to be Islamophobic
solving a terrorism and poverty problem is not "islamophobic", they were and are still free to practice their religion, the repression targeted radicalized imams importing wahhabism (which was not at all the historical cultural flavor of islam and was purely an import to boost terrorism and separtism) and their followers

it also not "slowed down", its over, the campaign have been concluded years ago, the terrorism problem have been solved, no more terrorist attacks

can I believe a large scale security campaign could have had some abuses happening at the margins? yes of course. do I have EVER seen ANY credible proof of it happening? no I fucking havent despite literally everyone having a fucking camera on him.
so anyone repeating that shit is just an uninformed retard repeating propaganda and should SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>763474
Oh my god I can’t stand you people, I hate to use the word Tankie but what other word is there to describe this shit! Whenever a socialist leader does some good shit but then does one fucked up thing rather than say “I don’t like that one fucked up thing” and move on while still acknowledging it yinz mother fuckers would rather deny it every happens because you think it makes socialism look bad, weather it be what happened in Xinjiang, the Holodomor, or even in some cases the Cambodian genocide which unlike the previous two things I mentioned WAS a genocide and the guy who did it was a Kissinger asset who unlike Xi and Stalin didn’t do any good!
But look it is virtually impossible to find any unbiased reporting on what happened in Xinjiang because of the Anti-Communist bias in the mass media but I still think that collective punishment is unnecessary and you should never round up a group of people into any type of camp or facility based on their ethnicity, it was wrong when America did it to Japanese people and it is wrong when China is doing it to Uyghurs.

>>763470
>>>763467
>You guys are stupid, I never called it a genocide
you clearly didn't know what ETIM was and you clearly were taking some kind of safe "centrist" position where you say "yeah china bad to uyghurs but it's not genocide."

wrong. china saved uyghurs in xinjiang from US-backed extremists. get over it.

>>763479
reddit might be more your speed

>>763470
> Obviously there were SOME cases of forced sterilization and sexual violence
your sources: burger eagle freedom institute, adrian zenz dispensationalist institution for bringing about the rapture, and epoch times falun gong newspaper

>>763483
>>763484
>>763485
Oh my fucking god you numb skulls can't comprehend the idea of a socialist government being able to do a bad thing you people are so fucking retarded and you are incapable of understanding a reasonable position of China being able to do a bad thing that wasn't a genocide but still worthy of condemnation. We are fucking doomed if this is the left that the west has.

>>763505
You should pick a better hill to die on like China having Gucci belts. The uyghur thing is just bullshit and you are too spooked about being called a genocide denier or something. Guess what, sometimes people just make shit up, especially when "people" is western imperialists.

>>763508
What he fuck are you talking about? I don't care if liberals call me a genocide denier because I know its not a genocide but it is a fact that a bunch of them were forcefully place in reeducation camps and it was unjustified to do so, there is no denying that happened, it looks like J-walking compered to Gaza but it did happen and you should not deny it.

>>763505
>socialist gubbermints can do heckin bad things
things china did bad:
<sino soviet split
<some aspects of the GPCR and GLF
things china did good:
<trick the west into giving up the MoP
<reeducate CIA backed extremists instead of murdering their families

pls keep the zenz nonsense out of your mouth

>>763512
>a bunch of them
CIA backed extremists
>were forcefully place in reeducation camps
merciful compared to what america and jizzrael do to palestinian children every day
<and it was unjustified to do so,
it was perfectly justified