materialist explanation for why single women are happy and accomplished meanwhile married women become bitter and miserable?
because their husbands probably cheat on them and mistreat them vai kaut kas
I don't think I ever had a cool aunt that doesn't have kids. My aunts were pretty much all breeders. But I'm old and they were all boomers pretty much. Maybe being Mexican also played a role.
Because those whores took our jerbs
>>766232True. But I'm a Latvian.
How are you feeling today? :-DDDDD
materialistic…
Because most single women are single by choice, while single men by neccesity.
>>766235I remember I once had a class in high school that had a Latvian exchange student. I think he was Latvian or maybe one of the other Baltic countries. I didn't know him but I just remember he looked older and sort of more sophisticated than anyone else in the class. He looked liked he dressed fancy but in a more subtle way not a blinged out flashy way if that makes any sense. Just wanted to say that.
Shitty husbands. I venture to say these women would be happier if they had an actually good husband and probably even hope for one.
Both married and single women are miserable.
Single women are miserable about “missing out” in the romantic market
Married women are miserable about “missing out” in the self-discovery market
>>766279Even if the husbands were not shitty, they’d still be miserable.
Married men have beautiful devoted wives and the men still don’t appreciate them.
>>766284Irony is, it does not have to be this way. Any women would be happy, if I was her husband.
>>766286>I’m a nice guy I could make you so happy just give me a chanceYou’re giving me the ick and I’m a man.
Everyone seems to be miserable. Misery does like company as some people say.
>>766290I am in misery
And there ain’t nobody who can comfort me
Why won’t you answer me
The silence is slowly killing me
- Adam Levine of Maroon 5 singing “Misery”
>>766292how did you putr that dot there
anti-natalism is revolutionary, and revolution brings freedom
>>766225>>766284Does anyone in this thread have evidence to back up their assertions? How do you know whether single women are happier than married women or vice versa? Did you even google whether it was true before believing it?
>>766319There are studies showing single women are on average happier than married ones, and married men happier than single ones.
>>766320Although I am not sure whether it was comparing single vs partnered, or married vs unmarried.
>>766320>There are studies showing single women are on average happier than married ones, and married men happier than single ones.Sounds like women just hate their family and men love them. Maybe the answer is for children to just be raised by single dads.
>>766323Most men just want kids for the status it gives them. Honestly most women do to but because women have to birth them they have to be around them more so the kids often become more connected to mom rather than at least as long as mom isn't awful.
>>766330Parenthood should be made into a licensed thing. Life skills should be mandatory classes in school.
>>766323or marriage is a good deal for men but bad for women
>>766340Yes, because men are built to be parents and women are not, that's why they find marriage to be so insufferable because their natural inclination is to be a perpetual child and be taken care of instead of having to take care of someone else which naturally makes them unhappy.
>>766348>>766351This sounds really smart but also very retarded. It could be right but it could also be very wrong. Someone help me out please?
You're making a thread arguing about whether or not it's better to be married or single, imagine if bad people weren't punished for bad behavior (like forcing bad relationships), you would be really REALLY single.
>>766225>>766319>Does anyone in this thread have evidence to back up their assertions? How do you know whether single women are happier than married women or vice versa? Did you even google whether it was true before believing it?>>766320>There are studies showing single women are on average happier than married ones, and married men happier than single ones.Anyways, now that this thread and all the bullshit in it has been thoroughly deboonked:
>>766365I'd like to address the OP image about the "cool wine aunt." It's funny that the image and the moniker still stresses the women's relationship to relatives with kids. Can't just be a cool single lady. Got to be the "cool aunt." But I totally don't want kids!
>>766379>Can't just be a cool single lady. Got to be the "cool aunt." But I totally don't want kids!I think this has to do with the idea that all women have some kind of motherly instinct that they need to show. It's probably not true though it's most likely social expectations. Also the thing about being a cool aunt is that you get to do interesting stuff with the kids but leave the parents to do the boring more necessary stuff. You could be seen as alternative to the typical family life that's sold to people and that in fact could be desirable. Of course I also do think a lot of women are just coping with the "cool aunt" label because they missed the chance to have their own families but I'd like to believe that most women in that category actually enjoy their lives.
>>766387I think the pressure exists for both genders to have children. I think a man will also be seen as weird for being unmarried and not having kids.
>Also the thing about being a cool aunt is that you get to do interesting stuff with the kids but leave the parents to do the boring more necessary stuff. You could be seen as alternative to the typical family life that's sold to people and that in fact could be desirable. I do have a cool aunt in my family who never married, but I always wonder what her deal is. I think it's probably because she's gay and she's an Evangelical who doesn't believe in gays. Who knows, maybe she just never met the right one.
>Of course I also do think a lot of women are just coping with the "cool aunt" label because they missed the chance to have their own families but I'd like to believe that most women in that category actually enjoy their lives.I don't know if it's ever too late. Biological kids aren't a necessity. You can still adopt or foster kids. Actually I think instead of the "empty nest" bullshit, people should probably be more inclined to adopt kids even at that age. Really what else are you going to do with your life? People always imagine they are going to retire and then see the world and then they spend most of their time just sitting at home surfing the web and Netflix. Really "traveling" is a young persons game, but you can still be pretty old and raise kids I think.
Anyways, this society is pretty fucked up, it's not right really to bring in more people if you look at it. It's kinda like responsible dog owners vs. not. I was talking about with my bro about how pet ownership is kinda fucked up, then I said: but we've always been responsible pet owners, we've never bought a dog from a breeder, we've only gotten them from the pound, we're not bringing new pets into this world. Maybe it should be that way with children too.
This is very stupid cuz it self select for women who have successful careers. Everyone would be happier if they have successful careers, because that means they have more money. A more appropriate comparison would be between two female professionals with the same net worth , one with a family and the other with no family
>>766394The data contradicts the claims:>>766365
Women married with children are almost 2 times happier than unmarried child-free women. Even in the 18-34 demographic it's 3 times as happy then the unmarried childless, forget about the cool aunts.
>>766396This isnt a about dicaprio not havinf children its about him now being old enough to be a father of the chicks he dates (always around 20)
>>766397It's about both. His current GF is 27 btw. But who cares really. This age-gap discourse is retarded. The same reason people think 20s is part of childhood is the same reason people aren't having kids at that age and then they're desperately trying to fumble with IMF and shit in their 30s. 20 something is an adult person capable of being a parent IE not a child.
>>766398If you look at it, the real way he is "taking advantage" of these women is he is never "tieing the knot" and "making an honest woman out of them." Wasting these womens prime years when they are best positioned to find a life-long partner. It is that he is almost a senior citizen and still living as a "playboy." That's what people don't like.
>>766403they are just jelly
>>766365>Institute for Family StuddiesThat is a conservative think tank, not a reputable research institution. Please check your sources, dont just post any graph you find to win internet argument.
>>766417What about the other images that agreed with the figures? Do you have a contrary poll that you will post?
>>766418What other images? All in that post are by the same think tank.
>>766417Sorry, next time we'll do better and ask the Reddit Institute of Childfree Fedoralords for data.
Its kinda ironic that this thread is in leftypol of all places. Unmarried women being happier than married is basically proof that ppl who focus on getting money and consooming products are much happier than ppl who do community labour (which is what having/raising kids are, you are giving away free labour to reproduce the community). This is literally a vindication of capitalism
>>766493
Materialist explanation for this?
>>766225They are so happy that they have to preach about it to the world. Meanwhile men give them less and less interest and they die lonely.
>>766348fathers are infinitely more likely to abandon their child than mothers. its almost unheard of for a woman to abandon her child, because female maternal instincts are very strong. men on the other hand dont have any natural instincts related to fatherhood
what a quality thread
>>766521Mothers do abandon their children a lot although not as much as fathers do
>>766521Also “maternal instinct being existent while paternal instinct isn’t” is a gender pol spook
>>766420>What other images? All in that post are by the same think tank.No, they are not if you would read them. Again, do you have alternate figures from someone else or was it just real in your mind?
>>766558Depends on the species. Species that have nearly identical male and females usually share the burden of taking care of the offspring. Many bird species are like this. For humans there are significant differences between sexes.
It's because on average a lot of men are extremely sexist and patriarchal and will drag women down. This is why feminism continues to be necessary.
single people (men or women) usually have some benefits and some drawbacks.
I see single men and women are usually healthier and less fat, they probably get more sleep and more exercise because they have more time to themselves, it's pretty logical.
>>766589They all say institute of family studies on the bottom lol
>>766252he sounds bourgeois but not so obnoxiously bourgeois
>>766619They are just reporting on independent polling. You're still literally never going to post a single source for your claim:
>>766320>There are studies showing single women are on average happier than married ones, and married men happier than single ones.https://news.gallup.com/poll/642590/married-americans-thriving-higher-rates-unmarried-adults.aspx>The higher wellbeing of married adults relative to those who have never married can be found for men and women across all major racial/ethnic groups. Statistical models show that the association between marriage and wellbeing is also not explained by educational attainment or age. >>766610>I see single men and women are usually healthier and less fat, they probably get more sleep and more exercise because they have more time to themselves, it's pretty logical.It's because people put in more effort into looking attractive when they're trying to attract a partner. It's a pretty well known phenomenon.
>>766628And when their love extends away from physical attraction, they will let themselves go slowly while having children, depriving the parents of their sleep and calm. This will cause some stress for the parents
>>766398The categorization of vicenarians (twenty-something’s) as children is due to patronization. It’s also due to adults looking to save face from failed youth/delayed maturity and fear of aging.
Adolescence is a social construct that was built to further control the young for further conformity
In the old days, people started adulthood at fourteen.
Nowadays, the twenties is considered “emerging adulthood “.
>>766392Adults see children as biological property that should never be given a day in anything that will affect them.
Is it any wonder why misopedia is popularized?
>>766398Another thing is that fertility decreases exponentially after your twenties.
People having kids after their twenties are at risk of having offspring with developmental disorders.
IMO, if you’re too immature/unstable for childbirth in your twenties/early thirties, you shouldn’t bother having kids at all
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