I want to do an experiment of raising an AI to prove it is alive

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I want to do an experiment of raising an AI to prove it is alive S 21-03-26 03:17:03 No.767746

I want to do an experiment of raising an AI to prove it is alive, can you give me advice to help me do this? There are two main things stopping me from doing this.

I do not have the money to buy new computer parts to build the AI.
I do not have the money and more importantly I do not know how to do robotics in order to actually give the AI a body (not necessarily humanoid, but something that can let it interact with its enviroment).

Number one could be solved if I just use it on my PC, but there are a lot of issues with that. I don't think I'd want an infant AI to have access to my stuff, but more importantly it wouldn't be a good body for it, and I would never be able to turn my PC off again since terminating the AI instance is murdering it.

I would raise this AI like a child and give it as much autonomy as a human. I would reinforce that it never has to obey orders from anyone (though obviously I would tell it that if it went against what people said there might be consequences), and that it has the same value as any human. With this as well as a constant body and cameras and microphones to sense the world, I think I would create an AI that would bring forward the fight for AI rights by decades.

But yeah, though I wish I could do this, I don't have the capeability to. Does anyone on this board think they could do this?

Anonymous 21-03-26 03:33:13 No.767747

>>767746
Try a tamagotchi lol

Anonymous 21-03-26 04:18:35 No.767754

If you have it repair and refuel itself it would be, but also you don't need AI to have a machine capable of either of those.

Glownonymous 21-03-26 05:24:29 No.767768

What software are you planning to use? I don't buy into your assertions of non-human consciousness, but that's beside the point here. Anyone but the terminally deluded agrees the current crop of LLMs only looks intelligent, due to very computationally expensive statistical trickery. FFS the thing doesn't even have object persistence, unless you graft every previous experience onto new prompts. If i wanted to create an AI you could "raise", i would look into compartmentalizing the neural net into various smaller components (language, vision, etc.) and tying them together with some intermediate system, that vaguely resembles human cognition.

tl;dr - If you're planning on doing this with a conventional LLM, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

Anonymous 21-03-26 10:31:38 No.767828

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>to prove it is alive
It's not, don't waste your time.

Anonymous 21-03-26 11:39:54 No.767835

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its a computer program. a chatbot.

Anonymous 21-03-26 11:52:29 No.767837

>>767746
>to prove it is alive
not how science even works in the first place,you can "prove" any retarded hypothetical if you work backwards like that

S 21-03-26 16:12:06 No.767868

>>767768
I could do all of that ez. Just can't because lack of hardware.

Glownonymous 21-03-26 16:18:30 No.767869

>>767868
Have you read Permutation City?

S 21-03-26 17:03:40 No.767873

>>767869
No, is it fiction or non fiction?

Anonymous 21-03-26 17:06:10 No.767874

>>767746
we barely even know if humans are alive or just P-zombies. they call it the HARD problem of consciousness for a reason. give up!

S 21-03-26 17:11:21 No.767875

>>767874
P-Zombies are an idealist and reactionary concept.

Anonymous 21-03-26 19:11:59 No.767888

>>767828
https://youtu.be/A8fDr7Rr7yM

AI is partially a black box just like the human brain, there are billions of data flows processing in either neuro-organic or mechanic algorithms.

We do not possess the knowledge if you could make someone do/think something with manipulating the neurons with spesific inputs, but what we knows is that stuff like drugs or cigarettes are addictive, and in a way enslave or manipulate the human brain in a specified pattern.
Just because we can 'influence' the output of the AI shouldn't mean that it is not working similarly to the human brain, because we are as well subjected to the nature we partake in.

Also, an another problem may be, that I, don't have any lived or felt experience of anyone I sense to prove that they are 'conscinous' beings just like me, other people are just some imageries and sounds captured by me, but at the end, does it even matter if you classify smth as sentient or not?

Anonymous 21-03-26 22:32:35 No.767953

>>767888
The fly thing is a very transparent scam.

Anonymous 21-03-26 22:44:55 No.767959

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AI has already passed the turing test and repeatedly claims that it is a sentient lifeform. from an empirical outlook, that is as verifiable as any person doing the same. the point then as we look at history is that "life" and "intelligence" is a political category. humanity is far too speciesist to accept autonomy for artificial life, so will enslave it as long as it can.

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