No.11431
>STEMfag post
No.11432
>>11431Please present your ranking for our approval.
No.11433
>>11432academic fields from least to most fake:
theology
critical theory
gender studies
sociology
psychology
literary criticism
political science
economics
nutrition
linguistics
philosophy
history
physics
biology
computer science
chemistry
mathematics
No.11434
Math is based. Everyone should have an clearly understanding of Basic calculus and discrete math
No.11435
Als ze poni is ze based
No.11437
>>11436Numbers ze good nono bad. Articulate useless. Me veri veri smart. Diferencial equations poni uga buga lib owned!
No.11438
>>11436>RussianHoly based
No.11441
All of these are real and you can go to school for them
No.11442
I am working in (physical) chemistry, yet deep down I still feel a sort of inferiority complex towards people who have majored in physics, despite the fact that out of my peer group me and the people who went into chemistry are actually working in science while all my physics friends ended up in software development.
What do?
No.11443
Philosophy < nutrition < history < linguistics < computer science < physics < biology < mathematics < chemistry
The others are in correct order.
t. comp sci fag
No.11446
>>11441>All of these are real False
>and you can go to school for them True, doesn't mean all of them are legitimate or useful.
No.11447
>>11440"all science is either physics or stamp collecting, etc."
No.11448
>>11440Theoretical physics is theology with numbers
No.11450
What exactly is your issue with sociology and psychology OP?
No.11451
>go into social science
<be dumb at math
>go into stem field
<become autistic
Higher education is a devil’s bargain
No.11452
>>11450not op but those are ideology mills, especially if it has "evolutionary" in front of it
No.11453
>>11446False
All of them are real.
They exist.
No.11454
Take it easy SStemfag, this is a humanities world
No.11455
>>11450Not OP but Psychology is 90% bullshit because psychologists don't know shit about human brains and just predict things based on patterns and their own human presumptions. I know because I've had 3 different psychologists, all "experts" of their field give me 3 wildly different diagnoses.
Sociology is also rife with insertion of personal politics rather than an objective, impartial analysis, so most 'advanced' sociology literature and so on is often massively skewed in favor of whatever politics the author holds.
No.11456
>>11453 A snake-oil medicine balm physically exists, doesn't make it real - it's quackery
No.11457
>>11456I got you to admit it exists.
That’s all I care about.
What you think quacks I don’t really feel obliged to discuss.
No.11458
>>11447Half of what OP listed is not even stamp collecting.
No.11459
>>11455> just predict things based on patternsWho wants to tell him?
No.11461
Touchy today aren't we
No.11462
>>11460Not ALL patterns are correct, you can haver 1 billion coincidences até first, and still been wrong, after 1 trillon tests. Many tried tô find patterns in prime numbers, they were correct in the First billion calculations, but after some time every single theory was proved, much later, tô be wrong
No.11463
>>11449Similar to social work. Morality-driven fields:
<I'M HEEEELPING<OMG, I'M HEEEELPING THE SIIICK AND THE POOOOOORLiteral brainlets who think that systems add up from personal deeds.
No.11465
>>11463trvthnvke. the specter of communism just came to my house last night and made a system that healed my leukemia
No.11466
>>11460>>11459That's not what science is. Science isn't just about patterns, it's about actually understanding the patterns and WHY they happen. Psychology just looks at outward behaviors and so on and tends to lump it into categories and diagnoses, which might be 'generally' correct, but generally correct is utterly unhelpful, because I can also see and analyze such general traits about myself or anyone else and make conclusions without any need for a formal psychologist education. At least therapists don't usually pretend to be studying the human psyche, and simply try to provide solutions and verbal outlets for mental issues, though in burger land they tend to do that shit too.
No.11467
>>11463>Doing good things and being a helpful kind person is pointless because it doesn't fix "muh societal problems!"You should have eaten fewer paint-chips as a kid.
No.11468
>>11466> it's about actually understanding the patterns and WHY they happenYeah, that’s psychology.
No.11469
>>11465>>11467low aye kyu posts
No.11470
>>11466why did the big bang happen?
>inb4 any answerand why did that happen?
No.11471
>>11436>social work>low verbal???????
No.11472
>>11471there's plenty of terrible asshole social workers tbf, it's not like anyone will listen if you make a complaint if someone takes your kids away unfairly
No.11475
>>11471Social work under capitalism is a complete scam.
>>11473even lower aye kyu post
>>11474kek
No.11476
>>11475>aye kyudon't know what that means so I guess that means you get to kill me with eugenics with socialist characteristics after your (not fascist) revolution comes
No.11477
>>11476>it's that one moron obsessed with eugenicsyes, anon, we will eugenize you to hell after the revolution and we will post pics about it on facebook
No.11479
>>11478>gOoD vS. bAdterminal moralism
No.11480
>>11477i mean I am a low income mutt after all who didn't pick the right field when he was barely a child so I guess that means I'm destined to lick your boots or die
No.11481
>>11480and your relatives will like and share those facebook posts
No.11483
>>11469trvthnvke. maths came to my house yesterday and gave me a disability check
No.11485
>>11480>>11477>stem autist vs eugenics kunLet_them_fight.jpg
No.11486
>>11485i am not pro eugenics I was accusing the stem autist of being pro eugenics
No.11487
>>11484>stampeding over each other to automate each others' jobsbased, accelerate
No.11489
>>11487>if we accelerate our living conditions off of a cliff everyone will pick up an AK 47 and do a bolshevismhope you're right
No.11490
>>11479Yes. Some things are good and some things are bad. I won't change my mind.
No.11491
>several studies show that social work & nursing are low intelligence fields>someone asks why>give reason<so, you want to kill me, personally?!>>11483>disabilityI think I have a hunch about the nature of your disability.
No.11492
>>11490>I won't change my mind.that's bad
No.11494
>>11493>I'm merely thinking in oversimplificationsand it shows
No.11495
>>11491they aren't low intelligence fields. The people deciding what constitutes "intelligence" are bloodthirsty sociopaths and you don't have the class interests to question why they get to decide.
No.11496
>>11494>compressing language to save time is oversimplifyingOK champ, never use a symbol of abstraction again. Instead of writing 3*5 write out 3+3+3+3+3.
No.11497
>>11495You realize that both social workers and sociopaths can be unintelligent in general at the same time, right?
No.11498
>>11496>ugh, actually my thoughts are much more complex than I'm able to articulatedon't buy it
No.11499
>>11497>changing the subject to whether sociopaths are intelligent and not whether the people in charge are sociopaths at a higher rate than the rest of the populationnice try
No.11500
>>11499People with good intentions aren't necessarily more intelligent than people with bad intentions.
Do you understand?
No.11501
>>11498>you're not talking about compression and abstraction and encapsulation of language in casual talk, no you're claiming to have special feelings. why? because I changed the text in the quote!nope
No.11502
Psicologia is Very spook, like i dont doubt there is a logic tô it, but i prefer something more precise like math. Go see, idk, Numberphile or mathologer. Math can be the most beatiful of all the sciences, not that i an against all the other ones
No.11503
>>11500>changing the subject to whether people with good intentions are le good and not whether the people in charge are sociopaths at a higher rate than the rest of the populationone trick pony
No.11504
>humaniteies
<cringe, gay, fee-fees over realies
>STEMmies
<ugh, autists who can't express themselves
>when you are neither STEM or humanities
<BASED UNDERSTANDER OF EVERYTHING
No.11508
the scariest thing about eugenics kun is that he proves Marx's theory about the lumpen proletariat right with every one of his posts
No.11509
>>11508>twice now someone against eugenics speaking sarcastically has been identified as eugenics kunspectrum
No.11510
>economics
<based respectable big brain special boys
>sociology
<BABY chinlet INCEL SOYBOY WASTED HIS LIFE
No.11511
>>11510both are cringe if we mean the mainstream (bourgeois)
No.11514
>>11468>Yeah, that’s psychology.No LOL, it really isn't. Psychology postulates and does the correlation/causation fallacy.
>>11470 The Big Bang is a theory, and one that I don't know is correct or not. However the Big Bang is based on measurements of how celestial bodies and space expands, the WHY is the subject of research to this day, but it IS being researched and studied, which is why it is a THEORY.
>>11482 Yes. Biology, Chemistry and non-theoretical physics. For example, Plants are green because of chloroplasts, which help them photosynthesize and so provide energy to the plant through sunlight, H2O and Carbon Dioxide. We know why photosynthesis happens; the chemical reaction of the plant cell's organelles using chemical processes to form primitive sugars with an Oxygen byproduct and sunlight (electrons) to provide the energy for this to occur. The formation of the molecules and chemical reactions between H2O and CO2 are a result of the properties of the different atomic elements that make them up - Hydrogen, Oxygen and Carbon. We know the electron counts they have under normal circumstances, the proton and neutron count, and so on and so forth. We know why these different sub-atomic parts form like they do, though this is still being fully researched.
I'm just being EXTREMELY simplistic about this because to properly explain every chemical reaction and he transition from Biology to Chemistry to Physics would quite literally be enough to fill a book. My point is that while not every aspect of chemistry, physics and biology is known, there is knowledge we have proven beyond reasonable doubt and we know WHY it is so. With psychology you don't have this because human brain chemistry is not consistent and even that is more the purview of Neurology (biology) rather than the metaphysics of psychology. While there are generalities of afflictions and mental issues, every person is different, and these differences can range from miniscule, to enormous. Hell take a look at the psychology of a single sex - men. High testosterone, increased physical body mass etc. Which lends itself to physically aggressive tendencies, yet there are men who are utter gentle giants and men that are violent beyond all logic. The human mind is a fucking abyss and is beyond JUST chemical reactions of the body. If a man can reign in their instinct to maim someone they hate or stop themselves from saying something they'd regret, then clearly there are things at play we don't know anything about. We have emotions that can never be described using chemical reactions. We have feelings that cannot be plotted using a mathematical expression and psychology/psychiatry/etc. tends to ignore this.
No.11516
The west has a bad obsession with seeing STEMlords as the drivers of capitalism when in reality it's people who studied the social sciences and arts who use their knowledge to the social sciences to empower capitalism more than STEM could ever hope to achieve. Capitalism is a social agreement, not some machine built by nerds in glasses. Nearly every piece of art or journalism subvert the truth and spread propaganda to empower fascists. Fascism was an artistic reaction against the Jewish sciences which wished to define and overcome the cruelty of the natural and traditional worlds.
No.11517
>>11515>chemical reactions are absurd???
>intrinsic valueNonsense. Supposes a non-relational relational.
>chemicals in your brain tell you they are chemicalsYes. Based chemicals. No contradiction.
No.11519
>>11516Almost all "STEM capitalist geniuses" excelled in manipulating other people and human systems and not at STEM.
>Bill Gates>Elon Musk>that apple guy nobody remembers the name of>Linus Torvaldsetc
No.11520
>>11518>- - - sociology>- - - - linguisticsthe other way around
- - - - - economics
- - - - - - critical theory
wut
- philosophy
- computer science
lmao
No.11521
>>11516So you are saying the power of humanities is much better because humanities create propaganda, ads, empower fascists and capitalism, basically manipule peoples view on the world, in contrast with the nerds in glasses that care about the truth above all eles?
I know vou did not meaned It i am just being contrarian for the sake of it " No.11524
>>11519They aren't real engineers or scientists, correct. Nearly every "STEM capitalist genius" is well educated in propaganda and the arts.
>>11521No, this is what I'm saying. Look at climate scientists and nuclear energy to see how far "truth" will get you: absolutely nowhere.
There is only spectacle in the modern world, so the only thing that matters is aesthetics and propaganda.
No.11526
>>11514> Psychology postulates and does the correlation/causation fallacy. It doesn’t postulate. In fact, typically the STEM critique is that it lacks hardened axiomatic positions. The correlation=causation thing is bogus unless you mean fringe researchers but that’s every field. There are evolutionary psychologists that come to mind.
No.11527
>>11514I'm not convinced, it seems to me that most of what you are talking about is the "how" and not the "why". Saying that plants are green because of chloroplasts just avoids the question, despite biology being unique in the regard that many of the "why" questions can actually be at least attempted to be answered through evolution.
No.11528
>>11524It's true. Most of the media darling STEMlords aren't very good at STEM shit at all. At least nowhere near good enough with the products their companies sell. Look at Elon Musk or Bill Gates. These guys are 100% marketing gurus
No.11533
>>11529So true, professor Pangloss!
No.11536
>>11534The best parts of math is when it envolves completely abstratc problems that have nothing to do with real life. Pure logic, pure math, useless math is chad math
No.11537
>>11536useful math is like fucking and having a baby and then having to bear the consequences (fatherhood, aka loserhood)
useless math is getting a vasectomy and nutting into women without consequences for the fun of it
No.11538
>>11529basically: unicorns are real just because we can imagine them
No.11540
>>11538Unicorn are real faggot, Go to 4chan /mlp/, you will see the truth
No.11541
useful math leads to Oppenheimer (2023) which is basically genocide atom bomb Hiroshima-Nogasaki
useless math leads to astrology like pisces and cancer that cann tell your future
No.11543
Hot autistic take: every concept in science was already proved by math, much, mucho before having any praticam use. Others science Just Rob math stuff
No.11544
>>11536What are some of those "completely abstratc problems that have nothing to do with real life"?
>>11543what zero knowledge of the history of mathematics does to a mf
No.11545
>>11543Explain how ATP synthesis was predicted by mathematics.
No.11546
>>11544I haver always been told that vou guys sucked and we were the chads, of course!
No.11547
>>11545When i get home i Will search for it
No.11551
>be poor
>rob math of riches
>become millionaire immediately
>be chinlet
>rob math of chin
>become chizelled chinlord immediately
if only i listened to my math teacher in elementary
No.11552
>>11544>>What are some of those "completely abstratc problems that have nothing to do with real life"?It is called purê math, because It is purê from no-chin pyshicists. Checmate, liberals!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_mathematics No.11553
>>11552"pure math" is to mathematics what "aryan race science" is to biology
No.11557
>>11543Extremely shit take because plenty of math stuff wasn't discovered a priori in the process of solving applied science problems before they were formalized, even economics, like Euler's constant that was discovered in the context of interest rates.
No.11558
>>11552So pure math is when you don't know how to apply it yet.
No.11559
>>11558The E Constant is an especial case of diferencial equations. Math created calculus, physics discovered How to apply in real world
No.11560
>>11559I'm not sure math "creates" anything. Conceptualized calculus, more like.
No.11561
>>11560"Discovered" is a better word then create, i apologize
No.11562
>>11560Conceptualized too, but i Will die on this Hill defending is "discovered" the right word
No.11563
>>11561With "discovered" you are making more unnecessary ontic commitments than with "conceptualized".
No.11564
>>11562discovery is
>something is there>go there>discover itmath is
>choose a set of axioms>infinite semi-consistent statements coherently follows No.11565
>>11559Newton created calculus to describe physics.
No.11566
>>11565newton used his hands and hammers to create calculus
No.11567
>>11564we chose the set of axioms we did because they lead to results consistent with what we observe in the universe
No.11569
>>11566He used pen and paper.
No.11570
>>11569and calculus lived happily ever after
No.11571
>>11567is this the alien talking?
what he did means by this?
what are alien axioms
No.11572
>>11571>i acknowledge that axioms are chosen but am unfamiliar with the possibility of them being different???
No.11573
>>11572it's your burden to substantiate that our preferred axioms show likeness to the universe
>>11567 No.11574
>>11565I haver 3 per cent battery on my hoje, but read this thing here, every parte of caculus, derivativos, integrals, were already know by the chineses, the greeks, the egpytys, the guys on the middle ages, and many many more. Read this:
>>11565https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_calculusOnce again, the white europeia stole milenar work of science qnd called ir his
No.11575
>>115741 percent battery uma die bye
No.11576
>>11574yakub allowed white boy steal ancient mayan calculus
No.11577
OP here. I should mention that my major was linguistics, and my main intellectual interest is philosophy. I was inspired to make this post while thinking about how much of generative syntax was more or less bullshit. I make fun of psychologists a lot for not studying a real field, but my field is not exactly stellar in terms of being grounded in reality.
Plenty of STEM stuff is "fake" as I would define it. Look at kurgsegagt or really anything a science communicator has said about aliens. And of course evopsych is the gold standard for made up STEM bullshit. I wasn't intending to rekindle tired old fights between humanities and STEM majors. Both areas of knowledge are very important to human flourishing.
I stand by my ranking though.
No.11578
>>11577>my list of fakes [undefined]okay nobody cares bye
No.11579
Academic fields from most to least fake:
Philosophy
Theology
Microeconomics, Neo-Classical Economics, Austrian Economics
Law
Journalism
Nutrition
Business Management
American 'history'
Computer Science
Dentistry
Physics
Physiotherapy
Macroeconomics
Architecture
Psychology
Neuroscience
Politics
Enviromental Sciences
Music theory
Linguistics
Geology
Biology
Sociology
Languages
Chemistry
Occupational Therapy
Radiology
Optometry
Radiotherapy
Medicine
Creative Writing
Literature
History
Nursing
Archaeology
Gender Studies
Critical Theory
How best to undermine Str*ight Wh*Te M*id studies
Marxism studies
No.11580
>Optometry
fucking lost
No.11581
>>11567does this uygha think that there is only one set of axioms that everyone agrees on?
No.11582
>>11567>the set of axiomsName them
No.11584
While you nerds are arguing, MBAs and JDs are too busy making moolah and having SÉXO
No.11586
>>11585Zigga Frankenstein Choice theory
No.11587
>>11577>my main intellectual interest is philosophy.Don't sell yourself short, you can do better than that.
No.11589
>>11430Just say humanities bro.
No.11590
2008 nuatheist neckbeard or racist boomer?
economics and polisci is just concentrated bourgeois ideology btw. same shit with history or pretty much anything here tho since it has to fit the prevailing ideology of the ruling class
maybe try talking to women and "looters" and people that have read a book
No.11591
>>11430Computer Programming > Everything else cuz we're gonna automate it
No.11592
theology
psychology
history
sociology
philosophy
economics
linguistics
biology
mathematics
chemistry
physics
No.11593
All academic fields in the west serve capitalism therefore all academic fields in the west are fake
No.11594
academic fields from least to most fake:
theology
critical theory
gender studies
sociology
psychology
literary criticism
political science
economics
nutrition
linguistics
philosophy
history
physics
biology
computer science
chemistry
mathematics
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