No.8631
Maybe we don't have enough power to have a great influence over politics but we have the power to have a great influence over people if we mobilize and take action by creating a new subculture to atract people's interest and take them out from that ignorance that leaves our enemies and traitors to win, a subculture with good aesthetic and it's own type of mentality will work the best to have a great change into society or just make things more fun a plan for this is SovCore.
>What is SovCore?
SovCore is a Soviet nostalgic subgenre of punk which incorporates several during or post Warsaw Pact aesthetics into one mixed with some alternative ones, it is a way to revolt against this Capitalist system and also promote a strong patriotic sentient.
>Mentality of a SovCorist
Basic Soviet mentality like Brotherhood/Sisterhood like minded, promotes gun, fitness or car cultures, helpful to community, feminist, aggressive, fanatical patriotic, AntiGlobalist, AntiFascist, AntiCapitalist, Antinationalist, racial separatist, continental unionism ex Asian Union, equalitarian, opposed to Capitalist rooten fruits such as sexual revolution stuff or mainstream pop culture
>Style
Basic alternative fashion combined with East European aesthetics such as military surplus or thug styles, the goal is your style to give an East bloc vibe, piercings are welcome in a small number and tattoos the best are the minimalist ones or based of Soviet prison tattoos ones
>Music
WitchHouse, Harbass, Post Punk, New/Dark wave, Chanson, Alternative rap the goal is to sound as gloomy, angry or Sovietic as possible
pic related a potential example for a SovCore style for women and excuse мой anglish
No.8635
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/>Sounds interesting what existing subcultures could we promote this to
No.8637
<span class="quote">>racial separatist</span><br/>For what?<br/><span class="quote"><br/>>fanatical patriotic</span><br/><span class="quote">>Antinationalist</span><br/>A bit close to the sun m8. Low key spooked.
No.8639
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/><span class="quote">>SovCore</span><br/>is this some joke with the russian word "совок"?
No.8640
Nobody cares about "soviet aesthetics". All it will do is make most people roll their eyes and dismiss your group/movement as out of touch.
No.8641
<a onclick="highlightReply('13543', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13543">>>13543</a><br/>By racial separatism I mean that idea everyone has to live and work only for his lands of origins not somewhere else for others and why?Maybe because it's just another way of exploitation used by Capitalists from which your working skills are used for others and not for your lands which will make them to stagnate if not just fall plus a multiethnic society is part of Globalism and there are high risks of indtabilities because of our history.
No.8642
<a onclick="highlightReply('13544', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13544">>>13544</a><br/>oops forgot about this one <br/><a onclick="highlightReply('13545', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13545">>>13545</a><br/>no i wasn't thinking of it lol<br/><a onclick="highlightReply('13546', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13546">>>13546</a><br/>who knows maybe they will find it better than the crap is promoted, maybe they will love the idea after, that idea here in Russia for example would work perfectly especially that our youth is attracted to that idea and history of USSR and alternative subcultures, we had something similar called Lyubera but once the Westernization started it just changed and splitted in more
No.8644
<a onclick="highlightReply('13546', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13546">>>13546</a><br/>Maybe for boomers it does but I think the IRA and Mao are memed a lot nowadays.
No.8645
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/>while I do like this, alot actually, this does feed into the left's doomerism and nostalgia. There isn't enough attention to the hope of communism, largely the left exists only as an opposition. The caps say this we say that. None the less this sounds based as fuck and it would be dope to see it actually take off
No.8647
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/>BASED AS FUCK<br/><br/>Socialism+Trap will be the defining subculture though IMHO
No.8648
<a onclick="highlightReply('13553', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13553">>>13553</a><br/>Trap as in the music
No.8649
<a onclick="highlightReply('13553', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13553">>>13553</a><br/>lmao there is an good example of that FEARSTbea†s - Xorow
No.8650
<a onclick="highlightReply('13552', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13552">>>13552</a><br/>but zizek… everything is ideology
No.8653
<a onclick="highlightReply('13552', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13552">>>13552</a><br/>Isn't Zizek himself an idealist?
No.8654
<a onclick="highlightReply('13559', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13559">>>13559</a><br/>I don't see how somebody familiar with what idealism means could say that. Zizek is a Marxist and is thus a materialist, apart from having explicitly said that he is a materialist during talks.
No.8655
there is an audience for something like this. doomer types have a fetish for bleak soviet esque/eastern european stuff. theres this band molchat doma thats big online who plays with this aesthetic
No.8656
<a onclick="highlightReply('13538', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13538">>>13538</a><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('13538', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13538">>>13538</a><br/>sauce?
No.8657
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/>Stay the fuck away from Eastern Europe, you filthy fucking westerner.
No.8658
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/><br/>Idk about the racial sepratism bit there bud.
No.8659
<a onclick="highlightReply('13563', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13563">>>13563</a><br/>I'm easterner you дебил <br/><a onclick="highlightReply('13564', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13564">>>13564</a><br/>what's wrong with it after all?
No.8660
This thread just proves teenagers are a blight on this board, and on the internet.
No.8661
<a onclick="highlightReply('13562', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13562">>>13562</a><br/>Chester Perry goggle parka damn expensive but in Russia there are some big lucks to find them very cheap because of them being stolen or just because it's a decent quality copy, since a time it's full of them on the streets of Russia and Stone Island
No.8662
<a onclick="highlightReply('13565', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13565">>>13565</a><br/>Don't fucking touch me. You reek of westernization.
No.8663
<a onclick="highlightReply('13568', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13568">>>13568</a><br/>Better they play around w/ SovCore than end up a liberal dermocrat
No.8664
<a onclick="highlightReply('13568', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13568">>>13568</a><br/>Nah, my grandpa is full time commie and hates most of the Western things especially their liberals he would've beat the shit out of me till coma and I'd be everywhere on the news if i reeked of westernization<br/><a onclick="highlightReply('13569', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13569">>>13569</a><br/>exactly
No.8665
kys comrade
No.8666
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/>This is a good idea but you don't understand Soviet culture enough to be blueprinting this.<br/>The idea of meshing "gloomy, angry" emotions with Soviet culture is stupid, Soviet culture was extremely optimistic from beginning to end. Your propositions ring anti-Soviet as much as anti-capitalist.
No.8669
<a onclick="highlightReply('13561', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13561">>>13561</a><br/><span class="quote">>theres this band molchat doma thats big online who plays with this aesthetic</span><br/>Emerging Europe described their lyrics as "not explicitly anti-Soviet" but also "[painting] a bleak picture of life under communism as well as contemporary life in Belarus, a country still trying to break free of the shackles of its communist past"
No.8670
<span class="quote">>creating a culture</span><br/>Pure idealist autism.
No.8672
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a> ewwwww
No.8673
this is the stupidest shit
No.8674
<a onclick="highlightReply('13579', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13579">>>13579</a><br/>Yes, the guy who made this should get off his ass and maybe talk to people. Literally most people under 45 can be convinced of socialism as long as you aren't a dumbass in your arguements.
No.8675
<a onclick="highlightReply('13565', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13565">>>13565</a><br/><span class="quote">>what's wrong with it after all?</span><br/><br/>Seems at odds with Class Struggle, but I get it my Parents are Eastern Euro as well and the Left in the East just works different. And I'm not saying they are worse than the Western Left, when in Fact they have a better Understanding of Marxism than most westerners. From my experience the Anti-Idpol Sentiment sometimes results in a bit of Racism from some Communists
No.8676
<a onclick="highlightReply('13580', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13580">>>13580</a><br/>So long as they are totally ignorant of history and aren't of Cuban, Vietnamese, or Eastern European descent.<br/><br/>Descendants of gulag survivors say hi, and recommend you kill yourself.
No.8678
<a onclick="highlightReply('13594', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13594">>>13594</a><br/>And Descendents of Guantanamo and the whole US-Prison comlex say also "hi". Why do retards believe the GULAG was on the same level as Auschwitz agains?
No.8679
<span class="quote">>>13600(me)</span><br/>Forgot to add survivors after Guantanamo and Prison Complex
No.8680
<span class="quote">>>20267</span><br/><span class="quote">>statistics</span><br/>Cringe and liberalpilled.
No.8681
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/><span class="quote">>fanatical patriotic</span><br/>cringe<br/><span class="quote">>car cultures</span><br/>wut?<br/><br/>Also you can't just "create" a subculture, that is idealist. Subcultures develop naturally from the material conditions of any group of people. Punk and Hip-Hop are good examples of working class subcultures.
No.8682
<a onclick="highlightReply('13537', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#13537">>>13537</a><br/><span class="quote">>fanatical patriotic</span><br/>cringe<br/><span class="quote">>car cultures</span><br/>wut?<br/><br/>Also you can't just "create" a subculture, that is idealist. Subcultures develop naturally from the material conditions of any group of people. Pun>>13537<br/><span class="quote">>fanatical patriotic</span><br/>cringe<br/><span class="quote">>car cultures</span><br/>wut?<br/><br/>Also you can't just "create" a subculture, that is idealist. Subcultures develop naturally from the material conditions of any group of people. Punk and Hip-Hop are good examples of working class subcultures.k and Hip-Hop
No.8683
I like the general idea but this sounds shit<br/><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('18045', event);" href="/hobby/res/13537.html#18045">>>18045</a><br/>I both agree and disagree. There has been attempts to create subcultures and it got people to hate them because it was too obvious example being Romo. However if it's not too blatantly obvious and if you get enough people involved people can mistake a manifactured subculture for a spontaneously occuring subculture and start following it if it actually appeals to them enough.
No.8686
OK no offense but why whould any leftists subculture focus on car ownership, see how bikers became in America and Japan post 80s
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