No.15623
>>15617right wingers are definitely trying to make FOSS their thing as an anti-globohomo thing (apparently microsoft only crossed the line in the 2010s and not earlier) lately
look at figures like luke smith or digdeeper and the smaller personalities popping up around them like mushrooms
thankfully, they don't have much willpower to do anything beyond flaming on forums or setting up pleroma on a cheap vps or whatever
>It's the same kind of stuff as "Anti-idpol left are arming reactionaries" nonsense. "If you're not with us you're against us." Which is basically reverse-McCarthyism.lmaooooooooo
No.15624
>>15617What are the stakes ?
Radlibs and rightwingers having flame-wars in free-software mailing lists ?
Won't they just piss off a bunch of software-devs that will write a few scripts to filter all non-software related messages.
No.15627
>>15623>digdeeper>rightwingerThey clearly criticize capitalism and right-libertarian ideology from the left, despite being informal and misguided at times (i.e. Duhring-esque). Their essentialist view of society and moral appeals expose their terminal idealism.
No.15628
>>15627https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/capitalismcancer.htmlmuh consumption, muh fluoride, muh 5g, muh VIDEO GAMES (1/3 of the article btw)
this isn't "terminal idealism" it's just standard reactionary liberalism
No.15629
>>15627>clearly criticize capitalismI haven't read the whole conversation but criticizing capitalism doesn't necessarily make you a socialist/communist/anarchist.
No.15630
>>15628They are literally Duhring though:
>Even if both parties benefit from an exchange, it doesn't mean that it was based on freedom - for example, someone might have a gun to his head and give up his child.<Herr Dühring is making the whole relationship stand on its head. The subjugation of a man to make him do servile work, in all its forms, presupposes that the subjugator has at his disposal the instruments of labour with the help of which alone he is able to employ the person placed in bondage, and in the case of slavery, in addition, the means of subsistence which enable him to keep his slave alive. In all cases, therefore, it presupposes the possession of a certain amount of property, in excess of the average. How did this property come into existence? In any case it is clear that it may in fact have been robbed, and therefore may be based on force, but that this is by no means necessary. It may have been got by labour, it may have been stolen, or it may have been obtained by trade or by fraud. In fact, it must have been obtained by labour before there was any possibility of its being robbed.They go beyond typical liberalism by acknowledging class warfare (
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/enemylaw.html), refering to proletarization instead of "le fourth industrial revolution" (
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/capitalism.html), being at least somewhat conscious of ideology and ignoring obvious idpol.
>muh consumption, muh fluoride, muh 5g, muh VIDEO GAMESThis is likely how they came to their critique of capitalism and now are too stuck in their scepticism to examine much else or discover the concept of immanent critique.
No.15632
>>15630and duhring was a reactionary liberal
>acknowledging class warfare (https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/enemylaw.html)you have to have a weird idea of "class warfare" if you think that's what that page is talking about. it's standard lolbert shit + transphobia thrown in
No.15633
>>15632>and duhring was a reactionary liberalDuhring was a utopian socialist (
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/ch23.htm).
>you have to have a weird idea of "class warfare"<Laws are designed to keep us in chains. Democracy is an illusion. Certain people are allowed to cause untold destruction without consequences while the not-so-lucky ones (that's you and me) suffer for violating the whims of the higher caste. Elections (if real) do not give us any power and in fact are a distraction. The most important thing for people to do, then, would be to topple the current law-based political system.While not explicitly refering to classes, this describes the core aspects of class warfare and the primary function of the state apparatus.
No.15634
>>15630ok i decided to actually check this page you guys kept posting and first line is calling unabomber's "technological slavery" "influential" lmfao
>Transgender ideology pushers are convincing even small children to question their gender (archive) despite being aware that this group has a 40% suicide ratelovely
>>15633>While not explicitly refering to classes,rofl i guess /pol/tards advocate for class warfare when they whine about le jews and globohomo too
No.15635
Some random loon: Politicians and governments are killing millions! Also, fucking transhumanisters amirite?
/leftypol/: DAMN this guy might be onto something
No.15637
>>15624Eh, they'll just isolate themselves and that's it. That's how it works. But the corporations will definitely be on the radlibs' side so people will just move to more niche distros.
The biggest issue is with G-MAFIA taking control of the kernel, and the issue is not just some radlib CoC, they try to push Linux in the non-libre direction.
No.15638
>>15623>right wingers are definitely trying to make FOSS their thing as an anti-globohomo thingEh, not really. Don't know about others but lolberts definitely have issues with megacorporations and privacy violations. The thing you must understand when it comes to the lolbert logic is that they blame the government for giving the conditions for this, without the government the competition will definitely destroy Google and it'll be epic. The alt-right I'm not even sure even cares about libre software at all. Just look at how eager they are to jump on any proprietary platform that allows them to say the N-word. The only reasons they end up using libre software is because the proprietary devs banned them or something. But otherwise if proprietary alt-right software was dominant they would probably be its biggest supporters. Hypocrites.
>luke smithI actually don't know what political views he has. He's definitely a conservative Christian. But honestly, as others pointed out, he does sound like a Leninist sometimes. He's just weird, I don't know about this guy.
No.15639
>>15638Maybe Luke Smith is just autistic.
No.15640
>>15638But honestly, there's another type of lolberts. Those associate themselves with the Open Source movement. And these people are actually corporate shills so they're not better than radlibs in that regard. The end-point beneficiaries from all of this are still these big corporations. Again.
No.15644
>>15638>software was dominant they would probably be its biggest supportersActually, the same can be said about radlibs too. Do you seriously believe that Twitter users moved to Mastodon because they care about libre software? PFFFFF, it's obvious that it's Mastodon's
marketing that made it so popular. It's all about advertisement, both radlibs and the alt-right are easily manipulated target audiences.
No.15645
>>15644Also, do not forget that the alt-right has a fundamental aversion to libre software because it's "communist." From that you can already start creating some narratives like "Libre software was created by Jews to suppress Aryan proprietary developers" end sho on, end sho on. *sniff*
No.15749
I've been trying to use python to archive wikipedia (fandom) pages/images. Using these instructions:
https://github.com/WikiTeam/wikiteam/wiki/Tutorial#Running_the_scriptexecfile "C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310-32\Scripts\dumpgenerator.py –
https://bleach.fandom.com/api.php –xml –images –delay=5"
I've tried all sorts of variations. It keeps spitting out different syntax errors.
I don't expect any help. But would like to know if I'm missing anything in the instructions.
No.15750
>>15749According to the instructions it uses long flags (not x11 flags):
execfile "C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310-32\Scripts\dumpgenerator.py –-api=https://bleach.fandom.com/api.php -–xml -–images -–delay=5"
No.15751
>>15750Also, the script appears to be using python2. Make sure you install the right python version with all necessary modules (kitchen and Requests).
No.15760
>>all of the above
Yes I know. I've got Python 2 installed and loaded. It's just where the script was at, at the time. I've since moved it. Problem is Python2 won't let me install anything because it gives out an SSL error. So I had to use 3 for the pip install instructions, then copy pasted the files to the 2's installation folder. I keep running into this ssl error. Even when trying to disable security, tried using simple as-well to no avail. I'm about to throw in the towel. These 6 hours of my life wasted. I've tried to add a trusted host, didn't work. This whole program is shady. I sure got filtered. These 6 hours I could've worked-out, had some lafter with friends, watch a comfy 60s movie, all at the same time, too. But no, I just had to follow instructions that didn't work. I'm not blaming anyone here, just venting the time I've wasted.
No.15761
>>15760you're using a secure http link instead of normal http
No.15762
>>15760I had something similar happen with the windows build of lynx, so it might just be a windows problem. You could try to use python2 in WSL, cygwin or mysys.
No.16233
Has tor been unusually slow for anyone else this past week?
No.16235
>>16233It slowed down a lot recently and according to my log a guard node is overloaded every few months since last year.
No.16737
>>16246Because they're not supposed to change. It's just a social contract saying "this URL will always point to this thing".
No.16917
What do I need to know to make my own browser from scratch?
No.16918
>>16917You can use an existing HTML5 rendering engine (webkit is popular) or write one yourself. If your renderer is going to be sufficiently complex, it needs to transform HTML into a DOM. The standard is your friend
https://html.spec.whatwg.org/ No.16927
>>16917>>16918webkit is controlled by apple who is notoriously territorial about "their" technology, it's probably better to use the gecko engine from mozilla, they are less likely to fuck with your stuff.
Writing a new browser render engine, that can be done, but it's a big project for like 200+ people
No.16929
>>16927I only acknowledged webkits popularity for small-scale browser development. Epiphany, Midori, Otter Browser, Surf and Nyxt use forks of webkit.
That said, I have yet to find a browser based on gecko that isn't a firefox fork, which leads me to believe it's difficult to seperate from the firefox codebase. Maybe
>>16917 will prove me wrong.
>webkit is controlled by apple who is notoriously territorial about "their" technologyTheir attempt at collaboration with KHTML and the wide spread of webkit make me doubt they will interfere with any of the forks. An OpenSSL type scenario seems more likely, should apple stop giving a shit about it.
>Writing a new browser render engine is a big project for like 200+ peopleThey might just want to implement a subset or are in for the "fun" of trying.
No.16930
>>16929Apparently Epiphany previously had a gecko backend. The discussion surrounding the switch to webkit seems to confirm my suspicions
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/epiphany-list/2008-April/msg00000.html>I have watched, over the years, as mozilla.org^Wmozilla.com has become more obsessed with their own Windows product and harder for Linux-oriented projects and distros to work with.>Using Gecko has always felt like surgically extracting pieces of another application, rather than using a well-designed library. No.16931
>>16929>That said, I have yet to find a browser based on gecko that isn't a firefox forkMaybe forking an existing browser is more sensible than writing a new one.
>>16930I don't know about this project but the dangers of orbiting a mega-corp like apple are real
don't send people into that direction if there are other options.
No.16939
>look for alternate imageboard softwares
>two most active candidates are lynxchan
>both basically one-man shows created by poltards
yucky
No.16940
>*and jschan
No.16941
>>16939vichan is active
the last update was 7 days ago
it does help that they have a lot of diverse, deployed forks that push recommendations back up the stream
No.16942
>>16917This link
https://browser.engineering is a really good place to start, but trust me you're not gonna be able to make anything even remotely modern and compatible with most of the web on your own unless you're a wizard. The web has grown to become an incredibly complicated platform to target, with the W3 standard being absolutely massive and Google regularly ignoring it and adding their own extensions to Chrome knowing full well that since they have the overwhelming market share in the browser space, they can basically just force their extensions to Chrome into being accepted into the W3 standard eventually. They are effectively playing a war of attrition against the web to make it so no one other than Google is capable of comprehending the web or having a working browser implementation.
Good post on this subject that goes into more detail:
https://drewdevault.com/2020/03/18/Reckless-limitless-scope.htmlThat being said if you aren't worried about having a super modern browser that will work with most sites, the first link I posted is a good place to start. You should also look into netsurf if you know C, which is one of the few existing alternative browser engines. Another newcomer from the SerenityOS devs is Ladybird (
https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird), though the main dev of SerenityOS used to be on the Apple webkit team iirc so he's like an expert on web browser technologies and a wizard.
>>16929>That said, I have yet to find a browser based on gecko that isn't a firefox forkThis is because Mozilla never really tried to make it easy to embed gecko in other browsers. I've looked into this before a bit and there is zero documentation, you would need to basically reverse engineer the source code to do it since web browsers are massively complicated nightmare technologies.
>>16941too bad vichan is a giant pile of shit and written in a godawful language (PHP)
t. former vichan imageboard admin
No.17018
>>16941>vichan is active>the last update was 7 days agoThis is Hotwheels, the creator and one of the main project maintainers of vichan.
https://nitter.net/fr_brennan/status/1570455555432681474
>Please STRONGLY CONSIDER deprecating vichan on your instances as I have repeatedly begged users to do.
>STOP USING VICHAN YOU FUCKING NERDS No.17026
>>17018um PHP sisters????
No.17033
mpv.net only gives me audio, no video
i am on amd, latest drivers, 5600g as my GPU
where do i change settings?
No.17034
>>17033Try out different VOs in the config editor (RightClick -> Settings -> Show Config Editor). If none works install
https://www.smplayer.info/ (or get the portable version), because it can embed both mpv and mplayer. If mpv works in smplayer the issue lies in mpv.net or the latest version of mpv. If none of the video outputs for mplayer work, your graphics are profoundly broken and you should investigate your video card and drivers.
No.17037
>>17018So how do you exploit it? Doesn't it only use the second capture group and disregard the first (for optional www) and the third (everything after the id)?
No.17038
>>17034It works in SM player, None of the outputs worked
So it is a problem with mpv or mpv.net
Shame, It looks very pretty now
I'll use MPC-HC
No.17079
https://github.com/Igglybuff/awesome-piracyhow do i archive this? this is a great hub of links
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