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Hactivist and cyber security researcher finds exposed servers containing the No Fly list

https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/how-to-hack-an-airline/

Also why do so many facilities with sensitive documents seem to never configure their shit properly? Why do they keep getting trusted with said documents? Especially schools and hospitals.

wtc the weedcat plushie

>>18231
many big corpos are using enterprise technology from ~10-20 years ago, big organizations move slow and tend to not change very quickly which can be a problem with security. Government moves even more slowly. Hospitals in particular are notorious for poor cybersecurity.

This will probably never change without some GDPR type regulation in the US

>>18234
What are the political implications of this regarding the sustainability of capitalism during this century?

>>18242
>regarding the sustainability of capitalism during this century?
Capitalism isn't going to last beyond mid fifties of the 21st.
Demographics reasserting the political economy of labor power are going to do it in, not a specific technology problem.

>>18248
Unfortunately, it looks we're going to get a system that's less socialism and more fascist economics with technocratic neoliberal-style statecraft, with the same bourgeoise and their descendants still in charge as the elite class still exploiting what were the proles of capitalism.

https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/No_Fly_List
<Due to presence of PII, the data is only being made available to journalists and researchers.
I don't like this decision. I want to know whether I am on that list. And I am sure millions of other people want to know this about themselves. Doesn't this trump other considerations?

But what about the social stigma, you might ask. I think this will vaporize in light of the many, many, many, many, many nonsensical entries the list has.

But what about good uses for this list or some hypothetical similar list with more robust reasoning behind it, some will ask. Well, there can be a PUBLIC no-fly list for that.

>>18257
guess we'll have to wait for a month or two for someone to share it

>>18256
>Unfortunately, it looks we're going to get a system that's less socialism and more fascist economics with technocratic neoliberal-style statecraft, with the same bourgeoise and their descendants still in charge as the elite class still exploiting what were the proles of capitalism.

Who is "we", it might be that the western big bourgeoisie survives a little longer using a technocratic neoliberal hell-world yoke to subjugate the western population, but that will be some kind of left over capitalism, like there still were some left-over feudal monarchies in the 20th centuries. Most of the world will probably be in the lower stages of building socialism in the mid 21th century, and represent the dominant mode of production.

It might be that the strangle hold over political power of the western bourgeoisie is based on imperial super-profits and as the reach of their imperial system shrinks so does their hold on power.

Another aspect is that the strength of labor power is going to come back because were are entering the phase of renewed labor scarcity this time globally. China has already begun reducing it's rate of exploitation to counter-act the demographic changes, very soon the rest of the world will have to follow their example, in order to not wither into irrelevance.

>>18257
I saw someone confirm people young as 8 are on it, and the majority of people on there are Muslim.

>>18265
Yeah of course there are wrong entries. Human names are not unique identifiers. Both first and last names correlate with people in the same ethnic/religious groups, so innocent people from different ethnic groups are affected at different rates based on the ethnic composition of the proper entries. At least with a name like Bob Smith, people in the US know that they are common; but they are not aware of what the common names in the different regions of the world are. And US bureaucrats still don't have a recording system for the full name as it is written in whatever place you are wrong, so convert names into a smaller character set, which adds to the confusion between different people. Even the way the conversions are done is not fully standardized!

>>18265
https://papersplease.org/wp/2023/01/20/the-nofly-list-is-a-muslimban-list/
According to this article the youngest is 4.

>>18267
I'm sure there are some mistakes given the size of the doc. However the idea of a three 4 year olds managing to get on the no fly list is hilarious.

>>18231
"This is, of course, the problem with having to give a copy of your secret list to lots of people."
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/01/no-fly-list-exposed.html

>>18231
this whole thing is so fucking reddit lol, worst thing is the "hacker" didnt even make the csv public, only to fucking journos

>>18280
>quotes around the word hacker
>maia arson crimew
Of course she didn't make the csv public, sending it to journalists meant the most people would be able to see it and leak it publicly on their own accord. She understands her protections under Swedish law. If she just leaked it publicly immediately the site could just get taken down extra-judicially, whereas this way no country can do so without also declaring war on Sweden. Going monkey mode and disregarding tact to be like Le Guy Fawkes Mask Man accomplishes nothing, and is exactly what the feds would have wanted her to do.

I can tell from your typing quirk you're a 4chan tourist, so it's strange to see you use reddit as a byword when 4chan is more reddit than reddit ever was.

If you have flown before is it safe to assume you're not on it? Or does it only appy to flying to certain locations?

>>18280
This is what hacking is, a lot more boring than in Hollywood movies.

>>18281
Holy freaking crap Lois, how dare this guy not know about e-celebs.

>I can tell from your typing quirk you're a 4chan tourist, so it's strange to see you use reddit as a byword when 4chan is more reddit than reddit ever was.

Such a weird thing to get hung up on. You're calling someone a 4ch*n tourist while doing le epic greentext.

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>>18283
>E-celeb
This isn't a e-celeb, she's a public figures you fucking zoomoid
>epic greentext.
It's called a block quote. Learn markdown instead of spending every waking moment on social media.

>>18282
Oh people are still being added to it regularly. Also it's the 2019 edition that got leaked so when it does eventually get leaked to the public you may still be on it even if you're not on this version.

>>18285
If it's a block quote, who said "quotes around the word hacker" and "maia arson crimew"? Fucking hypocritical retard.

>>18281
>>18285
she isnt gonna fuck you bro

>>18288
>who said "quotes around the word hacker" and "maia arson crimew"?
>>18280
>"hacker"
And Maia is the author of article and hacker in question, so…


As someone from the fediverse I find her so fucking annoying.

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The gay furries did it again: this time hacking the Heritaige Foundation!

>>25977
how does hacking and typing like a retard help further proletarian organization?

>>25991
>implying that revealing data NATO, Israel and The Heritage Foundation wished to remain strategically confidential somehow doesn't

>>25991
Go do some patsoc hacking if you don't like it

>>25993
This imply this faggot will do anything worthwhile

>>25994
I mean I know he won't, it was rhetorical

>>25977
https://t.me/s/SiegedSecurity
here's the telegram with proper links
if i download the heritage leak, do the fbi and nsa execute me on the spot or something? o_o
as for hacking, i think it's kinda dumb and doesn't hurt powerful people that much anyways

>>25998
>as for hacking, i think it's kinda dumb and doesn't hurt powerful people that much anyways

it clearly pisses them off which is something, and reveals stuff they didn't want us to know

>>25999
>and reveals stuff they didn't want us to know
it depends on what they have to hide, and how much of it they've entrusted to computer networks

>>18231
Most of this shit government and corporations use is outdated legacy garbage because of logistics issues. Bureaucracies are one huge pile of mess. That's one of the reasons I support libertarian socialism more.

>>26019
True, it's not surefire to do anything, but sometimes you catch a blunder and make them bleed a pretty penny or two, and make them look unreliable to their affilates.

Why are these “hacktivists,” “researchers,” and “journalists” too fucking cowardly to release the list? No one has a backbone these days. Losers.

>>26154
The art of whistle-blowing is dying on us, it's a real tragedy.

>>26154
Wouldn't releasing the no fly list just be doxxing a bunch of people who have done nothing actually criminally wrong though… Instead they should make a bot to email everyone on the list, I assume it doesn't have that info on there though

>>26156
This. Also a lot of the people on the list were children as young as 7, so they wouldn't have email.

>>26155
I'm helping an absolute lib of a whistle-blower right now (not gov stuff but not trivial either). It will never die, even if certain topics will fuck up your whole life if you do.

>>26154
Activism in general is just fighting for issues that don't only affect proles so I sleep.

>>26168
>Activism in general is just fighting for issues that don't only affect proles
You don't know what activism means.

>>26172
If you think interclassist issues are communism then you're braindead.

>>26191
brb not brushing my teeth because it doesn't advance the causes of the proletariat

>>26191
>activism is when interclassist issues
This is a retarded definition. The main problem with activism is not that it focuses on interclass issues (socialists can be activists too).but its reformist nature (unless it's hacktivism which is closer to insurrectionism and should be called hacksurrectionism or "propaganda of the deed" or something). I dislike activists for the same reason I dislike reformist Marxists: thinking that you can achieve change within the system just by voicing your dissatisfaction with it by protests or vooting is just laughable.

>>26196 (me)
The sheer ridiculousness of equating "hacktivism" with activism is comparing a pieceful protest to an eco-terrorist sneaking a fucking bomb into a factory, shouting: "SURRENDER OR I'LL BLOW UP THE BUILDING!!" Even a simple license such as GPL has an effect that's more akin to a wildcat strike ("muh virus license") than anything IRL activists do.

>>26197
>>26196
How do you you manage to make an arguement while both being wrong. The -ism is activism is a misnomer, activism is just the use of direct, often confrontational action, such as a demonstration or strike, in opposition to or support of a cause.

Of course socialists are going to do activism, the entire point of it being called 'scientific socialism' is you test the theory though praxis, then use the results of praxis to inform theory. Non-scientific socialism is utopianism.

The scientific process is inherently activist, because you're doing things to learn rather than yeilding to essentialism and letting philosophers just guess forever. That is direct political action for a cause, one that is even opposed by the right for competing with the essentialism that is foundational to their beliefs–even they engage in activism for that too, because it's a value neutral term.

>>26201
300 autism score post. It's obvious that that's not how the word is used nowadays.

>>26201
Phil undergrad post.

>>26197
Well at least you realize hacktivism is even more useless than IRL activism and the argument is that both have nothing to do with the class struggle.

>>26213
>Well at least you realize hacktivism is even more useless than IRL activism
Hacktivism is useless, yes… for class struggle. It is useful for self-liberation and insurrections which are anarchist praxes but I assume you think anarchist theory is crap so we have nothing to discuss here.

I'd argue that activism is the most useless since it achieves absolutely nothing.

>>26212
>it's obvious [absurd assertion]
Not an arguement, It's how it's used in practice ba dum tish
>>26213
>Phil undergrad post
Wasn't even philosophical.
>nothing to do with the class struggle
You haven't explained your premise, yet you just keep repeating it.
Making forcibly disclosed information that was strategically classified by an opponent is advantageous in any conflict, especially class struggle. The fact that it's not one unique to it is irrelevant, the current case being discussed–the recent hacks on The Heritage Foundation, NATO and Israel are very relevant to class struggle.

>>26219
>It's how it's used in practice ba dum tish
I usually seperate what people call "activism" and praxis. I have no use for the word "activism" otherwise, I can just say "praxis" or "direct action," the words that are actually used by politically active people instead of journos who call them "extremists."
>Making forcibly disclosed information that was strategically classified by an opponent is advantageous in any conflict
Good point.

>>26218
<Red Guard comrades of Tsinghua University Middle School:

>I have received both the big-character posters which you sent on 28 July as well as the letter which you sent to me, asking for an answer. The two big-character posters which you wrote on 24 June and 4 July express your anger at, and denunciation of, all landlords, bourgeois, imperialists, revisionists, and their running dogs who exploit and oppress the workers, peasants, revolutionary intellectuals and revolutionary parties and groupings. You say it is right to rebel against reactionaries; I enthusiastically support you. I also give enthusiastic support to the big-character poster of the Red Flag Combat Group of Peking University Middle School which said that it is right to rebel against the reactionaries; and to the very good revolutionary speech given by comrade P’eng Hsiao-meng representing their Red Flag Combat Group at the big meeting attended by all the teachers, students, administration and workers of Peking University on 25 July. Here I want to say that I myself as well as my revolutionary comrades-in-arms all take the same attitude. No matter where they are, in Peking or anywhere in China, I will give enthusiastic support to all who take an attitude similar to yours in the Cultural Revolution movement. Another thing, while supporting you, at the same time we ask you to pay attention to uniting with all who can be united with. As for those who have committed serious mistakes, after their mistakes have been pointed out you should offer them a way out of their difficulties by giving them work to do, and enabling them to correct their mistakes and become new men. Marx said: the proletariat must emancipate not only itself but all mankind. If it cannot emancipate all mankind, then the proletariat itself will not be able to achieve final emancipation. Will comrades please pay attention to this truth too.


https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-9/mswv9_60.htm

>>26220
And good point as well. I almost never use the term unless someone else brings it up. It's grammatically weird for what it's trying to convey, and words like praxis and direct action are easier to work with.


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