Fate of abstraction based programming languages

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Fate of abstraction based programming languages Anonymous 09-08-23 03:39:49 No.21261

So Marxism-Leninism is obviously opposed to abstraction since it's idealism, but what will be the fate of programming languages that have their entire root in abstractionism like Python and R? I know biotechnicians base a lot of their technical knowledge in these languages which is basically called for since a large portion of biology nowadays is dominated by mendelian idealists who think lysenkoism is wrong and bad, so clearly programming languages have suffered from the same kind of idealistic penetration as biology itself. Will communism destroy idealistic programming languages like python and R?

Anonymous 09-08-23 09:56:32 No.21278

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>So Marxism-Leninism is obviously opposed to abstraction since it's idealism
Dialectics are an abstraction.
>what will be the fate of programming languages that have their entire root in abstractionism like Python and R?
C pointers and structs are abstractions. No double** pointers exist in real machine code, what the CPU process is nothing but a sequence of bytes, which are also an abstraction, since bytes are nothing but electrical current interpreted as binary numbers.
>so clearly programming languages have suffered from the same kind of idealistic penetration as biology itself.
MLs are also idealists. They think they can apply the pure idea of the Russian revolution to the current material conditions, and they can't get their shit together since the fall of the USSR.
>Will communism destroy idealistic programming languages like python and R?
No. You WILL program with Lisp macros and strongly typed languages and you WILL like it.

Anonymous 09-08-23 10:18:33 No.21279

>So Marxism-Leninism is obviously opposed to abstraction since it's idealism
Stopped reading

Anonymous 09-08-23 14:43:16 No.21291

>>21261
neither marxism nor materialism are opposed to abstraction in all cases anon

Anonymous 12-08-23 14:39:49 No.21308

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>>21261
communists ought to use functional programming languages
>functions (things that do all the work) as first-class citizens
>abolition of state as the ultimate goal

Anonymous 12-08-23 14:44:31 No.21309

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>So Marxism-Leninism is obviously opposed to abstraction since it's idealism
This kind of thinking is how you get shit like Lysenkoism. Filtering everything through a "Marxist" lens in this way is vulgarization.

Anonymous 31-07-24 16:39:52 No.26356

Why is python's syntax so bad. It's truly alien, divorced from history: neither Wirthian nor Curly-Brace nor Lisp; everything is abbreviated for some reason, and the most important syntactic element is emptiness. How did such a language become popular?

Anonymous 31-07-24 16:52:46 No.26358

>>26356
Cult, same thing as with Rust.

Anonymous 31-07-24 17:02:10 No.26360

>>26356
>and the most important syntactic element is emptiness
you know what they say about jazz: it's about the notes you don't play

Anonymous 31-07-24 19:37:42 No.26363

>programming is litteraly jazz because i said so, OKAY!

Anonymous 31-07-24 19:54:07 No.26364

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>>26356
>everything is abbreviated
>>26360
>you know what they say about jazz: it's about the notes you don't play
Or devilish triads etc.

Anonymous 31-07-24 20:26:48 No.26365

Literally everything would just be math without abstraction. You need abstraction to have physics, cheistry, biology, sociology, economics, etc…

Anonymous 31-07-24 20:33:19 No.26366

>So Marxism-Leninism is obviously opposed to abstraction since it's idealism
idiot
mods, destroy this silly bitch

Anonymous 31-07-24 20:37:58 No.26367

>>26365
>Literally everything would just be math
This would be so much better than >>26364.

Anonymous 31-07-24 20:40:59 No.26368

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>>21261
>So Marxism-Leninism is obviously opposed to abstraction since it's idealism
embarrassing post

Anonymous 31-07-24 20:51:47 No.26369

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>>26365
>math without abstraction

Anonymous 31-07-24 20:52:39 No.26370

>>26369
I think he is pretending to be retarded

Anonymous 31-07-24 21:15:42 No.26372

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>>21261
>So Marxism-Leninism is obviously opposed to abstraction since it's idealism
<treating the word "abstraction" as an abstraction

Anonymous 31-07-24 21:22:27 No.26373

we need to abolish spoken languages because it's an abstraction from the uhh base materialism and is idealism or something. real Marxist-Leninists should only communicate using random grunts and growls

Anonymous 31-07-24 21:44:11 No.26377

Remember in my math classes constantly looking back to the set theoretical definitions and theorems; there is something to be said for having these abstractions which none the less allow you to trivially bias them to get more work done, and more understanding of the topic.

Anonymous 31-07-24 22:02:13 No.26378

>>26373
>>26377
>abolish spoken languages
On this point words like "Marxist-Leninism" conveys almost nothing to the average person (it doesn't even have an entomology), and vast quantities of commonly used categories or names are completely misunderstood or are so poorly defined as to barely exist in the first place.

Anonymous 01-08-24 02:23:46 No.26382

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>>26365
>>26369

Anonymous 01-08-24 09:02:11 No.26393

If there was definitive proof communism would destroy Python, R, FP based languages, and stinky CS PHD's, all my friends that are not juniors would support it.

Well instead they support it based on facts and logics. Funny how every one in C++, including me, is some sort of anarchist/libsoc. Freedom from the bourgeoisie, the state, and the compiler, or death!

Glownonymous 01-08-24 09:14:27 No.26394

>>21261
>abstractions are idealist
Vulgar Marxism be like, smh.

Economic classes are themselves abstractions. Our natural languages are based on abstractions. We literally cannot think without using abstractions. Just stop.

Abstract programming languages are compatible with Marxism. And I would claim they're the only truly proletarian languages since they're easier to learn and understand for the non-programmers. And the more abstract they are, the easier they are to understand which means more contributions to FLOSS projects and more eyes on the code.

Now which is better: Python or Lisp?

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