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So, I'm a musician, who wants to have a musical career (a lot of communist musicians had stable careers) and meanwhile stupid porkies tell me that "no, we'd prefer if you were replaced, prole, because there if no place for people like you" and I hear, not only music, but other art, computer science, programming etc. will be replaced by AI. How do we stop this, so people are still prosperous in the real socialst societies?
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THE AMOUNT OF GREEN HOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THIS CACHING SYSTEM, AND OTHER SIMILAR CACHING SYSTEMS ALONG THESE LINES WILL PREVENT and furthermore consider the powerbill costs thus CACHING SHOULD ALWAYS AT LEAST BE CONSIDERED FOR YOUR LLM AGENTS

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If someone with AI depicted you as a pedophile, murderer, rapist etc.?
Of course, using Deep Fake tech.
Honestly I'm afraid of this kind of future for many people, especially innocent ones.

>>29832
>Honestly I'm afraid
I found your problem. Fear is the fuel on which reactionary opinions like this run on.

>>29833
stop insinuating

In the future, you will see I'm right

>another thread about the latest culture war
get a job please

>>29836
I thought socialists and communists are also scared of this future.

anyways, I don't see anything reactionary about capitalists wanting to use ai demonic tech

Police will do this and use is as evidence in a court or to gaslight you into false confessions

>>29839
Yes, that's why I'm asking! And also, does it apply to women too?

The bigger issue with this sort of deepfake stuff is that it's eroding people's belief in actual evidence of actual things. Seen a bunch of people calling famous historical photos AI generated.

>>29832
Ai doesn’t exist

i'm more concered about ai interperting law, this is one ad for a job position that i saw just now

<If you're interested in developing AI products focused on real-world challenges, you're in the right place. We are seeking data scientists to work on domestic and international projects. These projects will involve: collaborating on large-scale systems leveraging LLMs for applications within the State Prosecutor’s Office and the Supreme Court.


<Join us to tackle impactful problems at the intersection of AI and critical legal systems.

>>29837
socialists and communists were one of the first to research a completely AI driven economy/society

>>29841
This, this is one of my main concerns on top of this being used to gaslight false confessions and create fake evidence for convictions.

LLMs that we all know as generative AI, in spite of all of its ostensible flaws in its current form, are probably some of the most advanced ways that the ruling class have completely blurred the lines between reality and fantasy and completed the usurpation of experience with things artificially representing that experience in its place.

It's a total assault on material reality itself and the human mind's capability to care about it.

>>29841
>The bigger issue with this sort of deepfake stuff is that it's eroding people's belief in actual evidence of actual things
agreed, seen the same trend with some cool art (sculptures especially), where some guys are like "thats AI generated" despite the photos being older than any AI tools
even for cool pictures of improbable things, now its not even "I suspect some photoshopping", because doing good fakes was taking a lot of effort and could almost always be spotted by anyone really bothering to check, so people just assume its AI and dismiss it.

>>29844
It's different when communists do it.

The threat of AI undercapitalism is two-fold:

1. Pareidolia can become so intense it can actually lead to to de-humanization, which affects heavy AI users most readily, and is nearly ubiquitously seen against the technologists in silcon valley. Most of them have already dehumanized themselves, and don't perceive themselves as humans, but as inferior AI. We see patterns and we impose meaning onto them. We see patterns that resemble humans, even in the most superficial and comical way (a smiling faces), and we cannot help but begin to think and feel that what we see is a human. AI, which reflect human intelligence back at humans, trigger this deeply seated tendency to mirror and transfer intention onto something that we can consciously be aware is incapable of possesing such intentionality, but cannot "unsee". This tendency is primordial, and unavoidable. But when decisions about the role of AI in our society is placed into the hands of people utterly deluded by their pareidolia, some to a nearly level of religious zeal, we are in danger.

2. If AI agents can be developed to act as economic units, e.g. a worker, and AI agents can directly compete with humans as economic units (rather than enchaining "productivity" of humans) by being able earn money, save, invest, and spend money autonomously, then they are on the path to outcompeting all human beings on economic efficiency, reducing the value of human beings under captialism to 0.

Refuting both of these requires a politics that is human centric and values human dignity. Unfortunately, many communists these days see this as "humanist" and reject it. So we are all going to be slaughtered. Maybe the Chinese AI will be better utilized.

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>>29837
>aieeeeeee be scared and anxious!!!!!!!!

>>29836

beneath the culture war, this is something that will make drastic changes to life


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People are using AI to make their own Personal decisions and how and what to feel .thats bad or maybe not maybes it’s good I should ask AI what to think

>>29852
Wow this like in my hecking black mirror episodes!

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>>29836
>production technology and reactionary fear of it is culture war

>>29852

sounds like an autistic's wet dream

>>29854
> If someone with AI depicted you as a pedophile, murderer, rapist etc.?
if you're concerned about someone canceling you, you shouldn't worry since you're not nearly famous enough

if you're concerned about the pigs producing fake evidence of you, you shouldn't worry since the US is undermining due process, "evidence" will be a thing of the past, fake or not

>>29856
>>29854 probably thought the thread was >>/tech/27559 which served as the containment thread before the jannies stopped enforcing that. OP saved the image from that.

>>29854
>reactionary fear of it is culture war
lmfaooooo yes??

>>29844
Theres a difference between AI and generative image AI. I hate when people assume anything AI is automatically bad and assumes its the same kind of AI used in image generation and deepfake software

>>29856
Yeah maybe its time to stop being a retarded fucking cunt and think about this for a second. When realistic AI video material becomes widespread this kind of evidence becomes worthless in court. Everything will revolve around physical evidence like DNA on crime scene.

>>29858
>Lmaooo no.
We are talking about production technology not your favorite new imaginary gender sexuality.

>>29861
>calling it reactionary fear (your words)
>adamant in denying its just culture war shit
>thinks culture war is when queers, and only when queers
lol

btw learn to greentext newfag

>>29862
>you are not green texting properly like the other 12-year-old memers
Absolute state.

>>29832
>guys what if the gun was used to shoot you
yeah, all tech can and will be used in a wide variety of ways.

AI is a bubble, it cannot becoem sapient. Hopefully people will realize the limitations of AI and hopefully the bubble with finally pop.

>Baizuo Communists
>"We want gay luxury space communism"
>Technology comes out that is practically the beginnings of Holodeck level shit (VR/Real time AI generation/Real Time Universal Translator)
>"NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT".
AI is a overall good and overall good for Socialists, it furthers the technological argument and march towards Socialism. Communism will be powered by fucking AI and predictive models, which make a planned economy easier than fucking ever.
>But muh music.
Worked in the music industry for 15 years. Majority of mainstream music is fucking algorithm slop and has been since the 1995, like do you think Sabrina Carpenter songs aren't written by a team of professional shadow producers who scouer through every trend to form patterns then turn those patterns in what is trending into fucking memorized/on paper Algorithms? Kpop in particular has been to a microscope copy-paste algorithm slop for literally 20 years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ips2mM7Zqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nCLBTmjJBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APB-AKpnKT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTlv5_Bs8aw
You can see the same 1:1 pattern, synths, flow etc through all of modern K-pop, and it's largely the same through all modern mainstream music.
Also frankly, if AI can produce stuff that is better than humans, why should I care? If a track is good, it's good. But the reality is, AI will never, ever touch actual creative musicians like say Pink Floyd or Shpongle or Led Zepplin or King Gizzard or Sleep so all AI does is raise the bar and perhaps wipe out completely lazy slop genres like mainstream pop and rap/hip hop.
>But muh art.
Digital art is, and has always been, fucking garbage. I mean for nerds, compare old warhammer art to the modern digital art. In fact, one of my hopes for AI is that it can be trained to return texture, and "microscopic" differences in pigments so digital art doesn't look like flat fucking dogshit.
Either way, don't fight against the wind. AI just furthers the argument that Capitalism is retarded, since if a fucking AI does all the functional work, planning, predicting, what is the point of a Capitalist?

>>29879
>mainstream
Irrelevant and also not legitamately measurable since the internet, possibly even the cassete tape
>lazy slop genres like (,,,) rap/hip hop
Please learn music theory, and I mean acutally learn it and not just vgh about the simplicity of classical music. That includes jazz, hip hop and EDM's advancements in it. You should be able to write 20 page essay about a Halley Labs album.

Otherwise yes it is easy to bs your way through a profitable music career and AI stands to trim away some of the corpo jobs that enable that. I think the only reason why corps bother with human artists is the parasociality, and now that the internet mogged them so hard in that regard that they'll never catch up, they've got a lot of vestigial idols to liquidate. Eminem and Kanye will both be sent to a farm pretty soon.

>>29881
>That includes jazz, hip hop and EDM's advancements in it.
I know about advancements in the genre, but modern hip hop/rap is fucking lazy as shit and has been since the early 2010s where the genre should have died in relevance as the fad it was like Pop punk or Electro House.
The genre is pushed heavily by the industry because
1: Zoomers and late millennials worship black people and black culture and think anything black people do is "cool" and instantly has underground cred. hence for example why anime was cringe for losers, but as soon as black influencers starting unveiling power level, now every zoomer, even women, larp as hentai loving weebs. Tracks that would be seen as fucking lazy as fuck, from white artists are suddenly "The greatest lyricist of all time" if from a black artist. (coughkaynecouglamar)
2: It's cheap as fuck, and lazy as fuck to make, and you have a billion soundcloud tryhards with garage band level tracks that you can pick and choose from that the mainstream will eat up.
There are far, FAR more artists deserving of mainsteam success than 99.999% of successful mainstream artists today, and frankly, if this was the 70s, 80s or early-mid 1990s, a lot of them probably would be successful and most of the mainstream pop artists of now would be one hit wonders.

AI cutting edge research is more or less coalescing around the idea that AI does not think actually, the chain of thought shit that gets printed on the screen is the machine making a grotesque imitation of how humans infer shit and it has no bearing on the result, Researchers only know that additional tokens make for somewhat better results but these tokens could be blank. The fact that this is the kind of paper that is doing the rounds and not the Fraudio Amodei shit about how machines are secretly plotting between answers to make you think that they love you but they don't shows that LLM researchers are abandoning the idea of major improvements on the short and long term

>>29882
>died in relevance
What, like an influencer losing relevance? We're talking about a music genre. This is like saying an ingredient dying in relevance because recipes use it less frequently.
>generationpol
Marketing brain
>black people are why anime stopped being cringe and not the end of cringe culture in general
Are you a minor or do you just live under a rock? Why would something persist to be cringe long after cringe culture ended?
>larp as hentai loving weebs
Which youtubers are you calling out here specifically?
>mainstream (demographic)
Terminal marketing brain.

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AI is expensive and doesn’t make any money so all the anxious petit-bourgeois can stop crying about it.

I could give you the whole Marxist spiel about falling rates of profit and why they’re doing all this, but this is fundamentally why markets would sell on news of new AI products. Its biggest representative OpenAI is being propped up by massive amounts of debt loaned on the promises of future profitability and it’s massive user base that they want to convert to paid subscriptions.

>dumbass managers are gonna replace capable programmers with AI
You gotta look at the positive side bros:
>dumbass managers are gonna replace capable programmers with AI
Cybersec business is gonna be booming

90% of vibecoders give up just before finding a prompt that works.

Google’s Veo demo includes a fake AI generated news report of literal fake news. I actually don’t know why they choose this as a demo. A cry for help? I think they don’t even know why they are building the tech they are. I can only infer that they must be thinking “if we don’t do it, a one of the eve more sociopathic founders in SV will”.

>>29897
>I think they don’t even know why they are building the tech they are
Because they're the only ones with youtube i.e. massive video library.

>>29897
fearmongering attracts investment.
>look at our amazingly powerful reality bending AI. this is the end of truth, the end of news, the end of trust, the end of the world, SO MUCH POWER….. and you can have a share in it for just $30billion more investment!!

>>29903
it kinda shows that veo specializes in recreating youtube videos lol, anything that isn't a literal flat plane with people talking looks dubious, so they featured news content in part because it's easy for veo to recreate convincingly. i dunno what's the point of this, it generates very credible but ultimately slop that is already a dime a dozen. like who wants to watch randomly generated people play fake-ass minecraft, there's tons of minecraft playthrough videos with 0 views already.

when the slave workers in Kenya, Pakistan, India, and China grow exponentially in size to filter the LLMs a little bit better, then maybe AI will be a bit better. But itll just be human labor and intelligence

>>30066
these poor fucks already getting sent gore and child porn and literal scat porn and images to better train the images to filter out . thats literally the only way they can train the prompts to get better. not a programmer. not a fucking ceo. literally the fucking proletariat mindlessly clicking yea or no on CSAM so the bourgeoise in china, america, wherever theyre developing this shit, doesnt get sued to fucking oblivion and the funny part is theyre already getting "threatened" to be sued by the proles because of the traumatizing imagery theyve gotta filter through to "train the algorithm"

>>30067
prole please click the piss filter ghibli slop blur brushed hyper pixellated photorealistic photo and not the teenager snuff film please please please heres 2 dollars an hour. Man nothing in this thread. Artists are right. Kill this slop. If not for the artists, for the workers sake.


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