So, I'm a musician, who wants to have a musical career (a lot of communist musicians had stable careers) and meanwhile stupid porkies tell me that "no, we'd prefer if you were replaced, prole, because there if no place for people like you" and I hear, not only music, but other art, computer science, programming etc. will be replaced by AI. How do we stop this, so people are still prosperous in the real socialst societies?
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btw learn to greentext newfag
>Baizuo Communists>"We want gay luxury space communism">Technology comes out that is practically the beginnings of Holodeck level shit (VR/Real time AI generation/Real Time Universal Translator)>"NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT".AI is a overall good and overall good for Socialists, it furthers the technological argument and march towards Socialism. Communism will be powered by fucking AI and predictive models, which make a planned economy easier than fucking ever.
>But muh music.Worked in the music industry for 15 years. Majority of mainstream music is fucking algorithm slop and has been since the 1995, like do you think Sabrina Carpenter songs aren't written by a team of professional shadow producers who scouer through every trend to form patterns then turn those patterns in what is trending into fucking memorized/on paper Algorithms? Kpop in particular has been to a microscope copy-paste algorithm slop for literally 20 years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ips2mM7Zqwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nCLBTmjJBYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APB-AKpnKT4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTlv5_Bs8awYou can see the same 1:1 pattern, synths, flow etc through all of modern K-pop, and it's largely the same through all modern mainstream music.
Also frankly, if AI can produce stuff that is better than humans, why should I care? If a track is good, it's good. But the reality is, AI will never, ever touch actual creative musicians like say Pink Floyd or Shpongle or Led Zepplin or King Gizzard or Sleep so all AI does is raise the bar and perhaps wipe out completely lazy slop genres like mainstream pop and rap/hip hop.
>But muh art.Digital art is, and has always been, fucking garbage. I mean for nerds, compare old warhammer art to the modern digital art. In fact, one of my hopes for AI is that it can be trained to return texture, and "microscopic" differences in pigments so digital art doesn't look like flat fucking dogshit.
Either way, don't fight against the wind. AI just furthers the argument that Capitalism is retarded, since if a fucking AI does all the functional work, planning, predicting, what is the point of a Capitalist?
>>29879>mainstreamIrrelevant and also not legitamately measurable since the internet, possibly even the cassete tape
>lazy slop genres like (,,,) rap/hip hopPlease learn music theory, and I mean acutally learn it and not just vgh about the simplicity of classical music. That includes jazz, hip hop and EDM's advancements in it. You should be able to write 20 page essay about a Halley Labs album.
Otherwise yes it is easy to bs your way through a profitable music career and AI stands to trim away some of the corpo jobs that enable that. I think the only reason why corps bother with human artists is the parasociality, and now that the internet mogged them so hard in that regard that they'll never catch up, they've got a lot of vestigial idols to liquidate. Eminem and Kanye will both be sent to a farm pretty soon.
>>29881>That includes jazz, hip hop and EDM's advancements in it. I know about advancements in the genre, but modern hip hop/rap is fucking lazy as shit and has been since the early 2010s where the genre should have died in relevance as the fad it was like Pop punk or Electro House.
The genre is pushed heavily by the industry because
1: Zoomers and late millennials worship black people and black culture and think anything black people do is "cool" and instantly has underground cred. hence for example why anime was cringe for losers, but as soon as black influencers starting unveiling power level, now every zoomer, even women, larp as hentai loving weebs. Tracks that would be seen as fucking lazy as fuck, from white artists are suddenly "The greatest lyricist of all time" if from a black artist. (coughkaynecouglamar)
2: It's cheap as fuck, and lazy as fuck to make, and you have a billion soundcloud tryhards with garage band level tracks that you can pick and choose from that the mainstream will eat up.
There are far, FAR more artists deserving of mainsteam success than 99.999% of successful mainstream artists today, and frankly, if this was the 70s, 80s or early-mid 1990s, a lot of them probably would be successful and most of the mainstream pop artists of now would be one hit wonders.
>>29882>died in relevanceWhat, like an influencer losing relevance? We're talking about a music genre. This is like saying an ingredient dying in relevance because recipes use it less frequently.
>generationpolMarketing brain
>black people are why anime stopped being cringe and not the end of cringe culture in generalAre you a minor or do you just live under a rock? Why would something persist to be cringe long after cringe culture ended?
>larp as hentai loving weebsWhich youtubers are you calling out here specifically?
>mainstream (demographic)Terminal marketing brain.
>>29654>>29657Had to reprogram this completely using another LLM to get it to work.
Think the main problem is to know your needs, and often at a fairly descent level.
"The parent window of popups are being raised above the popup in the following program. (How can we raise the popups on each iteration?)"
It's possible for the LLM to elucidate your needs, but it doesn't always give a convincing answer.
There's also simple related propositions like, don't ask for things you don't need or want.
After knowing your needs you have to enjoy and discern.
A critical component of using an LLM is this discernment, and avoiding frustration.
It sometimes takes many queries before you find the desired solution, or the solution sinks in.
Still think budgeting might be room for budgeting; it might even spur some innovations.
Overall am fairly pleased with LLMs at this point, and am hopeful they'll get better, working more efficiently even beyond scaling.
Not sure if this belongs to /labour/, but I feel like we haven't talked enough about how AI is wrecking the job market. AIs are used to write and analyse CVs. People in my office use it all the time for a variety of purposes, from the production department using it for visuals, to Customer Service using it to reply to customers. Yes, you can gain some time in some ways, but you also lose a lot of quality. I've seen the texts generated by ChatGPT they send to clients, the syntax is so bad, whe you ask it to write in a certain style, it almost becomes a parody of said style… But somehow, they're pleased with the results.
I've even heard my boss at lunch say that AI is good for SMEs cause you can save up costs by asking Chat GPT for legal advice… I don't care for this fucking job, but I almost feel bad when I hear shit like this. People unironically feel like AI will be able to do everything in a few years, when it has only ever been able to do some things faster, and many of them more poorly.
>>27560Same for artists tbqh
If you look into animation for instance it has been outsourced since the late 90s with shows like Batman Beyond, Boondocks, etc. Inbetween frames have been done by Koreans/China/Vietnam/etc. for decades for Japanese studios too. They'll never outsource key frames to AI, they're far too important.
>>27567Porn commissions lost some demand due to it, you can decide how important that is yourself
>>27605Yes AI as of now is mostly used to absolve people of responsibility. AI rejected your medical claim, not me! Unsupervised learning is really hard to categorize but they've basically legalized discrimination against protected groups again by correlating statistics that relate to race, socioeconomic status, etc.
>>30139i don't get it. if vibe coding is already so good, why are big ideas guys and thought leaders and industry disruptors and crypto baron captains of VC industry not simply telling the LLM to make them 30 billion dollars by tomorrow? want a cool business idea? ask the LLM, i'm sure it has an answer, ask it to make a tech solution to solve the problem that that new business would, ask it to generate an effective marketing campaign, ask it to list the interested parties that the thought leader can "lunch with" to promote it, etc.
why isn't sam altman just asking chatgpt o3-tinylord-AGI-pre-release to go full AGI and make openai investors trillions?
>>30177>There's a trend on TikTok right now where people ask the AI to draw "what it's like to chat with me," and now I am actually truly spooked by the way people are using this thing.I dunno in some ways I feel like it's essentially the same thing as astrology, which people use in lieu of actually examining themselves
In other AI news, AI "researchers" online have been coping super hard with Apple's "the illusion of intelligence" paper, which kinda seems like it reinforces the other paper which found out the "chain of thought" reasoning models print out was complete made up gibberish and had no bearing on model output. That Apple decided to reveal it just as they released ios version god-knows-what-number is pretty revealing on what Apple is putting their stock on for the next year.
>>30177>And the thing is, they LOVE it. If you try to take this away from them they will kill themselves.normie narcissism isn't recognized or shamed enough. it's a surefire path to success if you make any product "about them".
it's what made "social media" the cancer it is currently. the internet was uncool nerdy shit until normies were enabled to bring their high-school social politics about who is cool and influencer vs who is pleb and too ugly to be on camera fully online.
>>30181>>30182It's even more retarded, it's not only calling it gambling, but a
gambling addiction.
>>30189>social networks are like slot machinesno, they are not. not everything is predatory and victimizing and completely out of your hands.
people like this stuff, they willingly opt-in and will call you a nerd or something when you tell them it's not a good idea, then when it goes predictably, they whine about privacy and evil corps or whatever else.
this situation is not some corp-engineered thing, people actively helped the corps in bringing it about.
>>30194>no, they are not. not everything is predatory and victimizing and completely out of your hands.quote me on wherever the fuck you feel i implied this. i just said that refreshing xitter feeds, prompting genAI fishing for adequate results, etc, is a bit like a skinnerbox, that's it. further i said that habit formation relies almost completely on the UX being as frictionless as possible, because, and i hoped this implication was better understood, the enjoyment you get out of them is limited. the fuck is wrong with your debate addict brain.
>this situation is not some corp-engineered thing<UX<not corp-engineeredlmfao jobless buffoon.
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