So, I'm a musician, who wants to have a musical career (a lot of communist musicians had stable careers) and meanwhile stupid porkies tell me that "no, we'd prefer if you were replaced, prole, because there if no place for people like you" and I hear, not only music, but other art, computer science, programming etc. will be replaced by AI. How do we stop this, so people are still prosperous in the real socialst societies?
421 posts and 48 image replies omitted.>>29841This, this is one of my main concerns on top of this being used to gaslight false confessions and create fake evidence for convictions.
LLMs that we all know as generative AI, in spite of all of its ostensible flaws in its current form, are probably some of the most advanced ways that the ruling class have completely blurred the lines between reality and fantasy and completed the usurpation of experience with things artificially representing that experience in its place.
It's a total assault on material reality itself and the human mind's capability to care about it.
>>29841>The bigger issue with this sort of deepfake stuff is that it's eroding people's belief in actual evidence of actual thingsagreed, seen the same trend with some cool art (sculptures especially), where some guys are like "thats AI generated" despite the photos being older than any AI tools
even for cool pictures of improbable things, now its not even "I suspect some photoshopping", because doing good fakes was taking a lot of effort and could almost always be spotted by anyone really bothering to check, so people just assume its AI and dismiss it.
The threat of AI undercapitalism is two-fold:
1. Pareidolia can become so intense it can actually lead to to de-humanization, which affects heavy AI users most readily, and is nearly ubiquitously seen against the technologists in silcon valley. Most of them have already dehumanized themselves, and don't perceive themselves as humans, but as inferior AI. We see patterns and we impose meaning onto them. We see patterns that resemble humans, even in the most superficial and comical way (a smiling faces), and we cannot help but begin to think and feel that what we see is a human. AI, which reflect human intelligence back at humans, trigger this deeply seated tendency to mirror and transfer intention onto something that we can consciously be aware is incapable of possesing such intentionality, but cannot "unsee". This tendency is primordial, and unavoidable. But when decisions about the role of AI in our society is placed into the hands of people utterly deluded by their pareidolia, some to a nearly level of religious zeal, we are in danger.
2. If AI agents can be developed to act as economic units, e.g. a worker, and AI agents can directly compete with humans as economic units (rather than enchaining "productivity" of humans) by being able earn money, save, invest, and spend money autonomously, then they are on the path to outcompeting all human beings on economic efficiency, reducing the value of human beings under captialism to 0.
Refuting both of these requires a politics that is human centric and values human dignity. Unfortunately, many communists these days see this as "humanist" and reject it. So we are all going to be slaughtered. Maybe the Chinese AI will be better utilized.
>>29854> If someone with AI depicted you as a pedophile, murderer, rapist etc.?if you're concerned about someone canceling you, you shouldn't worry since you're not nearly famous enough
if you're concerned about the pigs producing fake evidence of you, you shouldn't worry since the US is undermining due process, "evidence" will be a thing of the past, fake or not
>>29861>calling it reactionary fear (your words)>adamant in denying its just culture war shit>thinks culture war is when queers, and only when queerslol
btw learn to greentext newfag
>Baizuo Communists>"We want gay luxury space communism">Technology comes out that is practically the beginnings of Holodeck level shit (VR/Real time AI generation/Real Time Universal Translator)>"NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT".AI is a overall good and overall good for Socialists, it furthers the technological argument and march towards Socialism. Communism will be powered by fucking AI and predictive models, which make a planned economy easier than fucking ever.
>But muh music.Worked in the music industry for 15 years. Majority of mainstream music is fucking algorithm slop and has been since the 1995, like do you think Sabrina Carpenter songs aren't written by a team of professional shadow producers who scouer through every trend to form patterns then turn those patterns in what is trending into fucking memorized/on paper Algorithms? Kpop in particular has been to a microscope copy-paste algorithm slop for literally 20 years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ips2mM7Zqwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nCLBTmjJBYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APB-AKpnKT4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTlv5_Bs8awYou can see the same 1:1 pattern, synths, flow etc through all of modern K-pop, and it's largely the same through all modern mainstream music.
Also frankly, if AI can produce stuff that is better than humans, why should I care? If a track is good, it's good. But the reality is, AI will never, ever touch actual creative musicians like say Pink Floyd or Shpongle or Led Zepplin or King Gizzard or Sleep so all AI does is raise the bar and perhaps wipe out completely lazy slop genres like mainstream pop and rap/hip hop.
>But muh art.Digital art is, and has always been, fucking garbage. I mean for nerds, compare old warhammer art to the modern digital art. In fact, one of my hopes for AI is that it can be trained to return texture, and "microscopic" differences in pigments so digital art doesn't look like flat fucking dogshit.
Either way, don't fight against the wind. AI just furthers the argument that Capitalism is retarded, since if a fucking AI does all the functional work, planning, predicting, what is the point of a Capitalist?
>>29879>mainstreamIrrelevant and also not legitamately measurable since the internet, possibly even the cassete tape
>lazy slop genres like (,,,) rap/hip hopPlease learn music theory, and I mean acutally learn it and not just vgh about the simplicity of classical music. That includes jazz, hip hop and EDM's advancements in it. You should be able to write 20 page essay about a Halley Labs album.
Otherwise yes it is easy to bs your way through a profitable music career and AI stands to trim away some of the corpo jobs that enable that. I think the only reason why corps bother with human artists is the parasociality, and now that the internet mogged them so hard in that regard that they'll never catch up, they've got a lot of vestigial idols to liquidate. Eminem and Kanye will both be sent to a farm pretty soon.
>>29881>That includes jazz, hip hop and EDM's advancements in it. I know about advancements in the genre, but modern hip hop/rap is fucking lazy as shit and has been since the early 2010s where the genre should have died in relevance as the fad it was like Pop punk or Electro House.
The genre is pushed heavily by the industry because
1: Zoomers and late millennials worship black people and black culture and think anything black people do is "cool" and instantly has underground cred. hence for example why anime was cringe for losers, but as soon as black influencers starting unveiling power level, now every zoomer, even women, larp as hentai loving weebs. Tracks that would be seen as fucking lazy as fuck, from white artists are suddenly "The greatest lyricist of all time" if from a black artist. (coughkaynecouglamar)
2: It's cheap as fuck, and lazy as fuck to make, and you have a billion soundcloud tryhards with garage band level tracks that you can pick and choose from that the mainstream will eat up.
There are far, FAR more artists deserving of mainsteam success than 99.999% of successful mainstream artists today, and frankly, if this was the 70s, 80s or early-mid 1990s, a lot of them probably would be successful and most of the mainstream pop artists of now would be one hit wonders.
>>29882>died in relevanceWhat, like an influencer losing relevance? We're talking about a music genre. This is like saying an ingredient dying in relevance because recipes use it less frequently.
>generationpolMarketing brain
>black people are why anime stopped being cringe and not the end of cringe culture in generalAre you a minor or do you just live under a rock? Why would something persist to be cringe long after cringe culture ended?
>larp as hentai loving weebsWhich youtubers are you calling out here specifically?
>mainstream (demographic)Terminal marketing brain.
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