/tech/ - Technology

>>33446
I'm laying beside my real wife while she's breastfeeding our daughter. Can your fancy autocomplete do that?

I've also started phoning it in my "I love you" responses to my gf, it's just annoying when they seek validation so much. I dont think you will be satisfied with a robo gf, youre too clingy and needy.

>>33447
>>33447
>daughter
Gigacuck
>>33448
it's not like conversation with an IRL female is any better. But unlike you AI can be unfucked.

You're not going to have robo waifus without a VR sex setup economy to validate the demand for artificial sex. There's no AI needed for one of these but if you want, you could extend it with an AI.
>>>/siberia/814664

See what the different reactions from different communities are to this idea, I guess?

I will never have a robot wife or a real one. I think I need to get over myself first. Which will probably never happen and if it does it'll be too late.

human fantasies can either be exploratory journeys into unknown territory or self-affirming journeys along safe well-trodden pathways. when children play pretend with dolls and toy cars and whatnot, they are primarily engaging in exploratory fantasy, because a) they don't really know much of anything about themselves or the world yet and don't really have any well-trodden pathways to travel on, and b) their brains are still in a stage of early development with extremely high plasticity and a remarkable ability to form novel pathways. they effortlessly create all kinds of highly imaginative and original scenarios and characters and become fully immersed in the fantasy and when something in reality suddenly commands their attention, like hearing their mother call their name from another room, they just instantly switch gears and are right back in reality again doing something else, another advantage of neuroplasticity. this exploratory pretend play is not just a triviality, it is a necessary part of mental development, these simulations are a way for children to figure things out about themselves and the world.

adults also play pretend, but their brains have lost much of the plasticity of their childhood and they have a well-formed ego and a lifetime of knowledge and experience and discoveries and traumas and insecurities and skills and triumphs and failures and habits and all these other things that have formed deeply engraved pathways in their brains and they tend to follow the safe and familiar and less strenuous pathways than try to form new ones, so the fantasies of an adult mind can often be purely self-affirming fantasies that they don't learn anything new from, they just reinforce what they already think and believe. some adults are able to overcome all of this and engage in exploratory fantasy like they did during childhood by doing the difficult and often painful work of digging deep into their own psyche and bringing all kinds of things to the surface but most adults do not want to do this and would rather just masturbate.

consider a hack writer like joss whedon and how he writes female characters in his shows - he just takes all of the things that he personally likes to see in a woman, a very young-looking skinny girl with light skin and long hair and anglo facial features, dressed not too frumpy but not too slutty either, a very unemotional and pragmatic personality that doesn't nag or cry or talk about her feelings too much, self-reliant and proactive and prudish when the male love interest is not around, dependent and passive and sexy when he is. and then he hires actresses to play his characters and works on filming the show with them and after he yells "cut" and the scene is over, he runs around the set like a horny teenage boy grabbing their asses and pestering them for sex because he's still lost in his own fantasy and can't switch back to reality. sound familiar?

>>34105
You could just be more upfront and consensual about the reasons why you hate the development of safe artificial sex. You wrote a whole essay to curve and bend a rapey "peter pan" insult.

High-end blowjob machines offer far better stimulation than real life and synched VR porn takes it further. The joystick/gearstick is that final bit of guidance to control the edge.

>>34109
NTA but they're absolutely correct despite being a little off-topic. And it wouldve been fine even if they were incorrect because at least it's interesting content

>>34109

it's about more than that and you know it. if it were just about physical stimulation, we already have a safe artificial method for that, it's called jacking off. men aren't interested in prostitutes or pornography or sex robots just for the physical stimulation, there is a very strong emotional component in play, they are fantasizing about a woman giving them love and validation and making them feel safe and wanted like their mommy did when they were children, it's all mommy issues.

>>34111
This nonsense is a wonderful example of why men end up following pick-up-artist right wing influencers, because despite a vocal part of the left (ie the politically correct social focused elements) claiming that men need to be more in touch with their feelings, avoid "toxic masculinity", and "must be better", its A) only acceptable when its servile and yet B) is often not rewarded or attractive to some of those to claim they want that behavior. You tell men looking for love, feeling safe and valid et in a romantic relationship that its "mommy issues" or being needy or whatever the fuck else. These things are considered baseline requirements in the yas kween you deserve better girl era the other way around, but somehow its anathema for men to want what used to be considered normal relationship aspects. Its no surprise people will have an AI simulate this interaction if for so many it has been discouraged for real world women to be supportive and loving of real world men in a way that threatens some screaming Twitter hivemind's conception of acceptable.

>>34105
>human fantasies can either be exploratory journeys into unknown territory or self-affirming journeys along safe well-trodden pathways. when children play pretend with dolls and toy cars and whatnot, they are primarily engaging in exploratory fantasy, because a) they don't really know much of anything about themselves or the world yet and don't really have any well-trodden pathways to travel on, and b) their brains are still in a stage of early development with extremely high plasticity and a remarkable ability to form novel pathways. they effortlessly create all kinds of highly imaginative and original scenarios and characters and become fully immersed in the fantasy and when something in reality suddenly commands their attention, like hearing their mother call their name from another room, they just instantly switch gears and are right back in reality again doing something else, another advantage of neuroplasticity. this exploratory pretend play is not just a triviality, it is a necessary part of mental development, these simulations are a way for children to figure things out about themselves and the world.

>adults also play pretend, but their brains have lost much of the plasticity of their childhood and they have a well-formed ego and a lifetime of knowledge and experience and discoveries and traumas and insecurities and skills and triumphs and failures and habits and all these other things that have formed deeply engraved pathways in their brains and they tend to follow the safe and familiar and less strenuous pathways than try to form new ones, so the fantasies of an adult mind can often be purely self-affirming fantasies that they don't learn anything new from, they just reinforce what they already think and believe. some adults are able to overcome all of this and engage in exploratory fantasy like they did during childhood by doing the difficult and often painful work of digging deep into their own psyche and bringing all kinds of things to the surface but most adults do not want to do this and would rather just masturbate.

>consider a hack writer like joss whedon and how he writes female characters in his shows - he just takes all of the things that he personally likes to see in a woman, a very young-looking skinny girl with light skin and long hair and anglo facial features, dressed not too frumpy but not too slutty either, a very unemotional and pragmatic personality that doesn't nag or cry or talk about her feelings too much, self-reliant and proactive and prudish when the male love interest is not around, dependent and passive and sexy when he is. and then he hires actresses to play his characters and works on filming the show with them and after he yells "cut" and the scene is over, he runs around the set like a horny teenage boy grabbing their asses and pestering them for sex because he's still lost in his own fantasy and can't switch back to reality. sound familiar?

Basically metoo'ed and weaponised a robo sex thread for all the misandrists to jump into. It's an impure plane of existence, so I don't really know why I expected any better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ncuote9ADo

>>34111
>it's about more than that and you know it. if it were just about physical stimulation, we already have a safe artificial method for that, it's called jacking off. men aren't interested in prostitutes or pornography or sex robots just for the physical stimulation, there is a very strong emotional component in play, they are fantasizing about a woman giving them love and validation and making them feel safe and wanted like their mommy did when they were children, it's all mommy issues.
There's nothing emotional about the alternatives you've just mentioned, you've completely skipped the visual component which is like the everything and all of it. I don't want to have this conversation with you if you're going to be like that towards men.

>>34110
NTA but it's a Buffy reference. It's not that deep, it's never deep.

>>34113
>claiming that men need to be more in touch with their feelings, avoid "toxic masculinity", and "must be better"

no, what i am saying is that men need to be men. not boys. that's what all the feminists are really trying to say when they say that kind of stuff, they just don't have the right words for it because they're women. what it is is, society has been pampering and coddling the male gender too much and has spawned generations of perpetual boys raised by women who never have to grow up and realize that the world doesn't revolve around them and doesn't give a shit about them at all. what separates men from boys is the same thing that separates women from girls - pain and suffering and humiliation. for girls, the pain and suffering and humiliation is inevitable and there's no way out of it, but boys are given special dispensation and so they never become men, they remain soft and entitled and childish their entire lives. what they call "toxic masculinity" is just childishness, a person who lives on external validation, running around desperately seeking validation from a maternal figure who will love them and protect them and a paternal figure who will respect them and be proud of them.

>>34122
What does any of this have to do with ai girlfriends and sexbots ? Women can get those things to if they want them.

>>34123

women who just want to use men for validation don't need sex robots, they already have a limitless supply of human men who behave just like sex robots, dispensing prefabricated romantic dialogue and awkward barely-satisfying sexual performances. the only advantage of the sex robot is it doesn't blow up your phone afterwards sending you creepy love messages after a one night stand, but it's not hard to block a phone number.

Do people still have sex the women? Do people still eat cow?

>>34113
>This nonsense is a wonderful example of why men end up following pick-up-artist right wing influencers, because despite a vocal part of the left (ie the politically correct social focused elements) claiming that men need to be more in touch with their feelings, avoid "toxic masculinity", and "must be better", its A) only acceptable when its servile and yet B) is often not rewarded or attractive to some of those to claim they want that behavior. You tell men looking for love, feeling safe and valid et in a romantic relationship that its "mommy issues" or being needy or whatever the fuck else. These things are considered baseline requirements in the yas kween you deserve better girl era the other way around, but somehow its anathema for men to want what used to be considered normal relationship aspects. Its no surprise people will have an AI simulate this interaction if for so many it has been discouraged for real world women to be supportive and loving of real world men in a way that threatens some screaming Twitter hivemind's conception of acceptable.
They're not trying to make things any better and that's the low hanging fruit that made Jordan Peterson get famous. Feel free to re-post the idea and the video in the post >>34103 on other platforms like halfcuck and see what they've got to say. Really, you can't knock the idea if you've consumed even a Kb of porn and the more products in the market, the better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-EnbO9okc8

i think that even a 100% realistic sex robot will ultimately fail to give incels the validation they are looking for, for same reason that a shallow loveless relationship wears a person down no matter how strong the initial physical attraction is, for the same reason that ai-generated art fails to really resonate with people no matter how good it is, because the authentic human connection simply isn't there. that's what people are really looking for, the 99.9% of people who aren't psychopaths, is to form a real emotional connection with another human mind, and there can be no adequate substitute for that. we don't know how to describe it or quantify it, but it's a real thing. the next time you talk to someone face-to-face, pay attention to what happens to you when you look into their eyes. the eyes aren't just passive cameras plugged into the brain; they are the brain, they are exposed brain tissue that not only receives and processes information but also transmits information in a rich language of minute subtle movements. when you lock eyes with another person your minds become directly linked in a kind of feedback loop where your eyes are projecting your emotional state into their eyes and affecting their emotional state which then gets projected by their eyes back into your eyes affecting your emotional state, etc. i don't see how this kind of connection could be possible with a robot regardless of how lifelike it looks and behaves on the surface, because it is missing the internal emotional hardware. i imagine it would be like looking into the eyes of a crazy or catatonic person or perhaps a reptile, where they just look empty, like there's nothing there, because they aren't sending back the proper signals and completing the circuit, there's no emotional connection.

>>34136
ofc its not the same but its better than nothing and if youre like us youre gonna get nothing so id rather have the bot

>>34137

imo it's worse than nothing, it just ends up rubbing salt in the wound and reminding you just how alone you really are. and sorry to the bearer of bad news, but if/when you ever do find love and cease to be an incel, you will almost certainly have to experience this pain again and it will be even worse. you'll be with someone whom you love dearly for years and years and then it will fall apart someway or another and you'll lose them and be completely lost and heartbroken like a walking shell of a person, and you'll try to remain friends and keep in touch but talking to them or thinking about them just makes you feel even worse and anything that reminds you of them makes you feel worse and you'll have to completely burn every trace of them out your life for the sake of your own sanity and you can't even meet new people because you're just like an empty black hole of misery incapable of connecting with anyone or caring about anything they have to say and the only thing that even slightly eases the pain is drinking. the loneliness and alienation you are feeling now will seem like child's play in comparison, you'll be wishing you had remained an incel.

>>34136
>i think that even a 100% realistic sex robot will ultimately fail to give incels the validation they are looking for, for same reason that a shallow loveless relationship wears a person down no matter how strong the initial physical attraction is, for the same reason that ai-generated art fails to really resonate with people no matter how good it is, because the authentic human connection simply isn't there. that's what people are really looking for, the 99.9% of people who aren't psychopaths, is to form a real emotional connection with another human mind, and there can be no adequate substitute for that. we don't know how to describe it or quantify it, but it's a real thing. the next time you talk to someone face-to-face, pay attention to what happens to you when you look into their eyes. the eyes aren't just passive cameras plugged into the brain; they are the brain, they are exposed brain tissue that not only receives and processes information but also transmits information in a rich language of minute subtle movements. when you lock eyes with another person your minds become directly linked in a kind of feedback loop where your eyes are projecting your emotional state into their eyes and affecting their emotional state which then gets projected by their eyes back into your eyes affecting your emotional state, etc. i don't see how this kind of connection could be possible with a robot regardless of how lifelike it looks and behaves on the surface, because it is missing the internal emotional hardware. i imagine it would be like looking into the eyes of a crazy or catatonic person or perhaps a reptile, where they just look empty, like there's nothing there, because they aren't sending back the proper signals and completing the circuit, there's no emotional connection.
The sex bots are just there for banging only, so all they'll do is enhance the existing social life of the consumer. The personal emotional relationships and validation are still only going to be between people because validation is only real and authentic between people. If someone's happy connecting to an LLM in a realistic body, then they might be a bit cognitively shallow themselves. Women do not really lose either way because A) the majority of the shallow intent is diverted off of them, B) men who only want women for sex drop out of the dating pool.

It's not for incels, whatever that is. The word is just a definition and a game that only someone stupid enough could suffer in their own heads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game)

>>34138
>imo it's worse than nothing, it just ends up rubbing salt in the wound and reminding you just how alone you really are. and sorry to the bearer of bad news, but if/when you ever do find love and cease to be an incel, you will almost certainly have to experience this pain again and it will be even worse. you'll be with someone whom you love dearly for years and years and then it will fall apart someway or another and you'll lose them and be completely lost and heartbroken like a walking shell of a person, and you'll try to remain friends and keep in touch but talking to them or thinking about them just makes you feel even worse and anything that reminds you of them makes you feel worse and you'll have to completely burn every trace of them out your life for the sake of your own sanity and you can't even meet new people because you're just like an empty black hole of misery incapable of connecting with anyone or caring about anything they have to say and the only thing that even slightly eases the pain is drinking. the loneliness and alienation you are feeling now will seem like child's play in comparison, you'll be wishing you had remained an incel.
Lmao, wtf? Lotta idealistic theorising here

>>34137
>ofc its not the same but its better than nothing and if youre like us youre gonna get nothing so id rather have the bot
Just build yourself a setup from today's components and see for yourself if the idea works. A bot either makes your life happier or it doesn't, so test it for yourself >>34103

No point arguing it otherwise, you're just wasting your time arguing over some futurama shit.

>>34140
>Lotta idealistic theorising here

not really, there's 8 billion people in the world and most of them have internet, chances are you'll end up in a relationship with at least one of them eventually. honestly it's probably better to be a late bloomer when it comes to relationships, your first one will probably be less of a disaster if it happens when you're older and less stupid. just look at how many miserable old boomer couples are sitting in their living rooms silently hating each other every day because they had kids and got married at like age 16, nothing could be worse than that.

>>34141
>there's 8 billion people in the world and most of them have internet, chances are you'll end up in a relationship with at least one of them eventually.
Yah, that's some idealistic notepad calculated theorising right there

>>34141
>just look at how many miserable old boomer couples are sitting in their living rooms silently hating each other every day because they had kids and got married at like age 16, nothing could be worse than that.
Okay so, if you read the triggered essay nonas above >>34105 and >>34110 you can see that there's a bit of a suburbanite "nice" for sex bartering kind of thinking going on over there. That's what got offended by the sex bot and stroker male reductionism. It's deeply embedded in a lot of "validation" therapy clap talk moralising but it's right there at the center of it all, it's the "nice" guy for sex barter, and "nice" is what's making the boomer couples miserable. "Nice" just means whatever she and the hivemind says. It's why men like the Tate brothers got so many views, "nice" is such bs and that's an easy bit of low hanging fruit for grifters. It's why men end up following them like the anon said >>34113 , "nice" is bs.

It's all pre-apologised sex work.

>>34144

no idea what you're on about but good luck in your future endeavors

>>34145
idk man, i like social safety nets as a vibe but the more i interact with people the more i understand that there's a bit of wisdom to the elites

>>34145
>no idea what you're on about
suppose thespians hate cynics

>>34138
Not going to lie but seeing this too many times in others is what caused me to decide to be permanently single. I don't even accept gifts.

>>34145
You're talking to an actual schizophrenic

Good is dead and "Nice" replaced it but it is a lie. Good you do for some reward you expect is not being good but when the reward is a lie that's really something, I tell ya. A bunch of liars, a whole bunch of nothing.

>>34150
>You're talking to an actual schizophrenic
I don't know for sure what's going on over there but I think this thread is funny at least.

Back on topic, we should be talking about robowaifus. I don't mind having a robot or an AI take on the role of being pretty to spoil and worship. I think that would be pretty cool. AI and technology have so much more potential beyond jiggle physics, is it art or is it nature?

I'm shopping for a new GPU and I'm wondering if these prices are ever coming down.

>>33449
>it's cucked to have a daughter
i think most anons would rather have a daugther than have a pathetic incel loser like you as a son

>>34115
You know you can embed youtube videos right? Also, I testify that she's the most beautiful real woman I've ever seen or perceived in my life. I'm ready to die now. My male life is completed.

>>34126
Idk what this is but embed it too

Yinz are toaster fuckers.

>>34183
>i think most anons would rather have a daugther than have a pathetic incel loser like you as a son
I think most men would disown the scorpion nona above >>34105 which explains all the daddy issues out there. I'm pretty open-minded but that's fucked up. I'd rather have a schizo incel than that shit.

What happened to all the body positivity after ozempic?

Sadly, we need the digital solutions. They're moral good.

>>34192

you must think this comment is very original and profound to be pasting it all over multiple boards

>>34193
>you must think this comment is very original and profound
It's not mine. Are you one of those body positivity retards?

> Real girls can't even be that expressive
*For you*. They'll be this and much more expressive for Chad. A girl I know showed me how she wrote an entire love letter for Chad who had barely even talked to her prior.
This is in stark contrast with the average male experience where it is indeed hard to get a kind word out of her, let alone her being expressive, it's always you putting in work work work money money money and she's still lukewarm towards you at best.

Considerations:

Physical Injury Risks: Eye punctures, genitalia damage, and permanent Injury.
House Injury Types: Electrical fires, battery fires, dents in walls.
Reputational Risks: People will hate your guts. Conservative Groups will view your project as a source of moral ill on the world.
Legal Risks: Who gets sued when problems occur regardless of if you are liable? Adult content requires IP logging and age verification in certain states. You as a small creator are not capable of doing that. Plan accordingly. Do not use smaller sizes to save on weight and price, use realistic 25F 160IBS sized reference models to minimize legal risk.

Safety Precautions:

1. Use no batteries, instead use a outlet tether.
   
2. Back-driveable belts everywhere.
   
3. Have a dead man switch that says I am okay.
   
4. Use no restraints on yourself.
   
5. Retain no user data. Let the user decide if telemetry (ROS2, OpenTelemetry Local) are okay.
   
   

AI Considerations:

1. Any AI abliterated enough to be a romantic partner is abliterated enough to use a gun to kill people.
   
2. You will be running a abliterated speech model (1GB VRAM), an abliterated transcription model (2GB VRAM), an abliterated robot VLA (8GB VRAM?), and a abliterated LLM (8GB VRAM). This gets expensive.
   
3. Someone asks their AI model to choke them, they die. The estate will try to sue you because they are mad. What will you do?
   
   

Hosting Considerations:

1. Github and Gitlab won't host 3D genitalia models.
   
2. This won't help your resume.
   
3. Those that have experience are locked into Non-Compete Agreements until UBI and full unemployment.
   
   

Robot Behavior:

1. Do not leave my room.
   
2. Do not speak to anyone that is not me.
   
3. Do not use weaponry.
   
4. Do not choke or slap.
   
5. Raw Data Retention of 1 week max. Generalized Data Retention of 1 year max.
   
   

Trade Non-Secret Secrets:

1. You need one AI model that represents how humans behave in the real world, with delays, contradictions, fainting, etc. You need an AI model with performance goals. You need to test your AI on an AI designed to simulate human contradictions and faults.
   
2. Reinforcement Learning with AI Feedback in simulated environments can get lots of data quickly, provided you have compute and storage which are expensive.
   
   

Logistics Create Victory:

1. Don't add hands until later, those take lots of compute and time and cost.
   
2. Don't add feet. This thing won't be capable of walking no matter how hard you try. Motors cheap enough to be affordable won't enable stable walking.
   
3. Liquids and robots don't mix. Intimate actions with humans involve both. Trying to make waterproof dynamic robots is brutally hard.
   
4. Ensure all printed parts are modular, replaceable, labeled (at the 3D printer level), and coated with certain sealants to ensure germs don't grow in cracks.
   
5. Design for injection molding. Slight angles on everything. This is what will allow industry to scale up in mass.

>>33446
>Real girls can't even be that expressive
They can, most of them aren't.

>>34203
>Chad
>average male experience
>it's always you putting in work work work money money money and she's still lukewarm towards you at best.
If the problem is that real girls don't want you, you can use tech and OF models to make the loneliness easier while you find a gf. You can keep using the tech after the gf, nothing is stopping you. She doesn't have to know.

>>34206
The Handy 2 already exists as a product so I'm not really liable for the hardware. VR porn clips exist too so I don't have to create any sex models.

I already have the VR webm player app with sex sound effects working off the joystick but I don't want to upload that to github because it will lead back to me. I can't monetise because of reputational risks. >>34103 is a concept video but I have the setup at home and it's pretty cool. I have an infinite library of sex.

You can add AI to it but why ruin something cool. You don't need the full robot.