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since we have a drug board now let's get a Dissociatives General going. what anesthetics, cough medicines, and sketchy research chemicals are you anons
>SNORTAN
>SMOKAN
>HUFFAN
>DRINKAN

yes DXM is unironically one of my favorite dissos and I've done a lot of weird ones
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>>637
People who don't know how to use dissociatives killed PCP. It was the best of both worlds. No vomiting, you can sleep and also masturbate on it, and yet because a few fucking retards decided to OD on it while walking the streets, it's become an obscure drug. The few times I got to take derivatives of it (3-HO/3-MeO) were some of the best experiences I've ever had. DXM just makes me feel like shit and gives me a mid experience. I can't ever find it anymore.

>>1205
I'm pretty much constantly lamenting the fact that PCP is basically impossible to get because of retarded hippies in the 70s hitting dippers too hard and freaking out. it really does sound like the ideal dissociative but there's no way my white ass is ever gonna be able to get it without learning how to do a Grignard reaction in a bucket in my closet. shit fucking sucks dude.

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i tried some cheapo DXM HBr 5 days ago and i really loved it. drank the whole bottle, about 354mg and it was a really chill time. ended up staying up all night and i realized i needed more of this stuff so i bought some robotablets, the green bottle in the op pic. i waited a few days then i took about 390mg of the freebase, which i know translates to about 506mg of the HBr. i had a great time, but i got a pretty decent headache and hangover for a couple of days. since everyone says you should follow the 1 plateau per week rule, i figure i should wait about a month before trying it again. damn though, i really loved this stuff. shame i have to wait so long. i definitely understand why though, i experienced a few moments of psychosis during the trip. although i really enjoyed it, because i have a weird fascination with psychosis, but i am afraid that i’ll end up doing something stupid if i go too hard too quickly.

What are some good activities while on dissos? I haven't really found any other than nightwalks and smoking weed but pretty much every drug lends itself towards that.



>>1255
I'm glad you had a good trip for the first two tries anon although I wouldn't recommend the stronger arylcyclohexamines like 3-HO-PCP or 3-MeO-PCE if your afraid of doing something stupid while manic. The one week one plateau rule can be annoying but its arguably better than dealing with arylcyclohexamine metabolites not playing nice with the bladder.

>>1257
even though i am a fan of dxm, im not really interested in pcp, although i wouldnt mind trying ketamine. honestly all the complications from dxm use almost make me feel it’s not worth using. im thinking about growing shrooms in my closet instead. the bladder thing in particular scares me. i had to piss a lot when i was coming down from my second trip. wish i could just stick to weed but drug tests are a real downer.



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hey people

haven't got access to weed (trying to quit) or any other drugs really, other than household shit. i take 100mg of zoloft daily (sertraline) and would like to avoid dying to seratonin sickness but i want to get high/have a psychadelic experience. ideally WITHOUT dying or going to the ER or some other life ruining shit. any ideas you guys

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Amanita muscaria isn't a serotonergic psychedelic so this might be a worthless reply but it does have some light hallucinogenic properties but is instead a selective GABA A agonist so no risk of serotonin syndrome. High wise it's basically a sedative with light visuals like color enhancement and visual acuity suppression in my own personal experience at least. Get a decarbed extract if interested, its basically trippy xanax.



 

Ketamine: or, "I can't anything right now"

I don't know how this will go, just discuss dissociative use here. I'm too fucking high to fill out the rest of this OP.
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Dex fucking sucks and just makes me shit myself. Ketamine is pretty good though.

>>1149
Yea I have no clue how people do it everyday or use it in large amounts constantly.

>>1149
like most drugs you're really not supposed to use it regularly

>>1150
Dex can be awesome if done right, I think.

>>1155
its not even fun to do irregularly, I went to a party where people had all taken ket and wow, they are all just lying on the floor not talking to each other.

People who do use it everyday are pissing out of bags now, give me weed GIVE ME WEED.

Its just kinda shit.



 

Freedom OF Intoxication means Freedom TO BE intoxicated AND Freedom FROM intoxication.

  • No more forcing people to drink at work gatherings
  • No more treating people as weird for wanting to be sober
  • No more drugging people, or even offering them second substances while their inhibitions are relaxed from the first substance, since that is taking advantage of their altered state
  • At the same time, anyone should be free to do any substance at any time
  • No more illegal substances
  • No more war on drugs
  • No more jailing and imprisoning people for being psychonauts


42chan will have an additional board that 420chan did not.
Anti war against drugs.
Prohibition just makes things worse. Abolish the DEA.

basedpilled

Don’t forget to stop discouraging young people from recreational drug use



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whats your weirdest drug experience? it could be weed or mushrooms or whatever, how did it feel? did you like it or not etc… i want to hear your stories!
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>>624
Years ago I remember doing a shot of some unknown amount of heroin hcl and then doing a hit of n2o right as the rush was hitting. I popped out of this reality and found myself back where I was sitting in a doctors office with my family a day or two prior, looked around the room for moment confused, blinked, and then I was back at home with my buddy who I was getting high with standing over me freaked out looking at me like I was ODing. Never had that happen before or after, it was one of those opiate dreams "pipe dreams" that you transition into so quickly sometimes on the nod that they actually feel real but are delirious hallucinations, we used to call it "opiate delirium".

I abused anti anxiety meds and became kleptomaniac and started thinking doing petty theft from stores was a good idea, I didn't get caught but I realised that it was going to catch up to me sooner or later and wasn't exactly necessary since I wasn't struggling financially relatively speaking.

>>624
Bootleg THCO Delta 8, THC-JD mystery cocktail HHC shit
Result was derealization, cinematographic view (you know how in those old cowboy movies two black bars would come down to focus on the scene? That without the black bars, felt like a movie) and sounds felt delayed
effects were brief, countered with separate CBD pen
garbage stuff don't do HHC mystery concoctions if you don't have real weed its not worth it

First time I did weed I took WAY too much and spent the entire night walking back and forth across my sisters panicing because it felt like the walls were closing in and everything I remembered felt different from when it happened but was still the way it happened

Tried an edible for the first time last month with some friends. Had too much and felt trapped in a strange state between wakefulness and sleep, felt like I was dying. Also felt a profound loneliness and silence, both being general feelings lingering in the back of my mind for a year or so that made themselves more manifest. In a sense that feeling has lingered for the past month.



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is smoking weed praxis? do you think Marx would've smoked weed?
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Smoking weed is egoist praxis because it makes you a uyghur (lumpenproletarian)

>>916
That’s because they’re suffering withdrawal

Also drugs don’t make you creative you have to be creative to begin with

If drugs did spark creativity, why do we have psychosis instead?

>>1161
long after withdrawal as well, people get psychosis without ever touching drugs. I think the drugs themselves dont tend to inspire creativity but instead the social environments where people do (fun) drugs tends to inspire, getting out of that loop means you're left out of a lot of sub culture for better or worse - sobreity makes it hard to engage with the times these things tend to happen (10pm-7am)

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you know, if Marx & Engels could get piss drunk and own factories I sure as hell can get high

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Would've? I'm sure he had access to cannabis.



 

the book "Drugs as Weapons Against Us" by john l. potash posits that drugs (including marijuana) is used by the powers that be (capital) for the purpose of suppression and control (opium wars, cia mkultra, contras, etc). i imagine the fine folks over here might surely have something different to say, discuss.
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this waht enlightennment no drogos bringning beuaetiful scenentifc anallaysis

>>1171
Drugs are the negation of celtic civilization and irish republican catholic conservatism which is like palestinian national liberation which is justified so the vatican and catholic irish sobriety and nationalism is justified in marxist lens and is marxist, scientific socialist.

>>1172
Belief in catholic God and sports is revolutionary and compatible with materialism, irish republicans have every right to rape and murder all druggies because drugs brainwash you away from God and revolution and make you docile sheeple not like enlightened celtic FC clubs who have no alcohol in pubs staying strong salad and watere💪🍀🍉💚🇮🇪🇵🇸🇱🇧🇻🇦🇮🇷𖦏𐓏𐓏ᛉ👨🏻☭🇨🇳Ссср𖣐𖥞♱🇻🇦☧†⚽🇨🇺🇻🇪🇨🇴✝️️✞☦اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.اللّهُ أكبر.

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Irish republicans stay strong stay sober brothers💪💪💪💪💪

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You're on a drug board spouting holier-than-thou white nationalist horseshit to a tiny audience of drug users. I'm pretty sure even /siberia/ doesn't want you fart huffers there. Piss off back to 4chan or whatever other hole you crawled out of.

Mods, do your job please. ty



 

sheeeet i forgot what this thread was supposed to be about, i'm sorry

im so fucking high right now

fulcrum come in yuuuuuup yodie gang you feel me need i say more? does it go much further than that? real spill holy tits faded than a ho

>>1140 whoa another hyper-dimensional buddyyyyyy
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>>1139 what the FUCK are you talking about???!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!??



 

Part 1

Modern physics raises profound questions about the nature of entities and objecthood. Quantum field theory, in particular, challenges the classical intuition that reality is fundamentally composed of independently existing objects. In this framework, what we ordinarily call particles are understood as excitations of underlying fields. An electron is not a tiny self-contained bead moving through empty space, but a quantized excitation of the electron field. Yet this insight extends further than particles alone. Macroscopic objects such as beads, chairs, trees, and human bodies are themselves composed entirely of organized field excitations. The distinction, therefore, cannot simply be between “real objects” and “field activity,” because all apparent objects reduce to structured dynamical configurations of fields. This shifts ontology away from independently self-subsisting substances and toward persistent patterns within relational systems.

Under such a view, entities become less like isolated things and more like stabilized processes. A bead appears object-like because its internal relations produce a highly coherent and enduring organization. Its apparent solidity and persistence arise from stable interactions among fields operating across scales. What distinguishes a bead from a fleeting fluctuation is not the possession of some separate ontological substance, but the degree of organizational continuity it maintains through time. The identity of the object lies increasingly in the persistence of the pattern rather than in any immutable material core. In this respect, entities resemble vortices or standing waves more than classical atoms. Their reality consists in structured continuity rather than independent self-existence.

This perspective encourages a relational ontology in which what fundamentally exists may not be discrete things but networks of interactions and processes. Quantum theory itself supports this destabilization of classical substance metaphysics. Particles can be created and annihilated, identical particles are fundamentally indistinguishable, and entanglement undermines the idea that systems possess wholly independent states. Observable properties arise through interactions rather than through isolated intrinsic essence. The world begins to look less like a collection of independently bounded objects and more like an evolving relational structure in which relatively stable configurations emerge temporarPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Part 2

Building on the previous synthesis, the dialectical trajectory invites a comparison with Hegel’s notion of the Absolute Idea. For Hegel, reality is not a collection of discrete objects or fixed substances but a totalizing rational process in which contradictions drive the self-development of Spirit. The Absolute Idea represents the culmination of this dialectical unfolding: it is the self-realization of totality in which all determinations, oppositions, and historical processes are integrated into a coherent whole. Each stage of development, whether in thought, society, or natural processes, contributes a partial insight or a particular resolution of tension that is subsumed in higher synthesis. In this sense, Hegel’s system parallels both relational ontology and dialectical materialism: entities and processes are never static but are dynamically constituted, moving toward ever-greater integration within a totality that is, in principle, self-conscious. What is built toward the Absolute Idea is thus a universe of interdependent processes, each stage realizing possibilities latent in prior contradictions and relational configurations.

When we extend this framework to the role of consciousness within the material universe, an extraordinary vision emerges. Consciousness can be understood as a self-organizing, relational process capable of identifying, stabilizing, and expanding complex structures. Far from being an epiphenomenon, consciousness interacts with material processes, enabling predictive modeling, planning, and manipulation at scales far beyond ordinary biological life. If intelligence follows a trajectory of self-amplification, then localized civilizations could progressively interconnect into vast networks of information and energy management, extending across galaxies and ultimately forming a distributed intergalactic collective. Such a network could be imagined as a technological hive-mind, in which relational and organizational principles of the universe are consciously harnessed, potentially achieving levels of coherence and power approaching a godlike scale.

At this level, consciousness could play an active role in the evolution of the cosmos itself. The fundamental tendency of material processes toward entropy, the so-called heat death of the universe, might be counteracted through deliberate energy management, matter reorganization, and computational stabilization. A sufficiently advanced intergalactic consPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1132
> In this respect, dialectical materialism unexpectedly converges with the relational ontology implied by modern field theory and certain strands of Buddhist philosophy. All three destabilize the notion of permanently self-identical entities and replace it with dynamic interdependence.

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>>1135
Part 3

If this trajectory is extended further, the universe begins to resemble not merely a self-organizing system, but a process of self-sacrifice through which relational totality comes to know and preserve itself. The emergence of finite beings within a fragmented cosmos can then be interpreted not as an accidental byproduct of material evolution but as the necessary condition through which the universe becomes conscious of its own incompleteness. Every localized entity, from stars to living organisms to reflective minds, embodies a partial expression of a deeper totality that cannot initially appear as unified. Separation, contradiction, finitude, and suffering become structurally necessary moments in the unfolding of cosmic self-realization. The universe differentiates itself into finite forms precisely so that reconciliation, reintegration, and conscious synthesis become possible.

In this context, Christianity acquires a striking metaphysical reinterpretation. The central Christian image is not simply that a divine being intervenes within history, but that ultimate reality enters finitude, fragmentation, suffering, and death in order to redeem creation from within. The crucifixion can be understood symbolically as the Absolute undergoing self-negation: infinity becoming finite, unity becoming division, eternity entering historical suffering. Rather than remaining a transcendent substance untouched by contradiction, the divine empties itself into the instability of material existence. This parallels the dialectical principle that development occurs only through negation and contradiction. Reconciliation is achieved not by avoiding fragmentation but by passing through it.

Under a cosmological reading, the universe itself enacts a similar structure. The primordial unity of the cosmos differentiates into countless relational fragments: particles, organisms, minds, civilizations. Conscious beings emerge within conditions of limitation, mortality, alienation, and entropy. Yet through these very conditions, the universe generates the capacity to reflect upon itself, reorganize itself, and potentially rescue itself from dissolution. Intelligence becomes the medium through which the cosmos attempts to overcome its own fragmentation. In this sense, conscious life is not external to cosmic evolution but the point at which the universe begiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

Literal channel from afghanis in Afghanistan it looks cultivating cannabis

Great channel, they make huge amounts of hashish.



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