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 No.1076

Today, the United States is among a number of nations working to develop and field advanced directed energy weapons, or lasers, for a number of military applications.

Near the end of the Cold War, the Soviet Union began experimenting with the idea of fielding a laser-equipped tank that could blind the targeting systems of inbound ballistic missiles or vehicles. Ultimately, two prototypes of the laser-armed 1К17 Сжатие, translated to “Compression,” were built, though they weren’t complete until the Soviet Union fell and was replaced by the new government of the Russian Federation.

Today, the United States is among a number of nations working to develop and field advanced directed energy weapons, or lasers, for a number of military applications. The U.S. Air Force recently announced its intentions to begin fielding lasers on their fighter platforms as soon as 2025, and the U.S. Navy began testing its latest laser, the MK 2 MOD 0, aboard the USS Portland in May of this year. But decades before these programs came to light, the Soviet Union was already exploring the idea of using lasers as a means of missile defense.

The Soviet strategy wasn’t to use these lasers to destroy incoming missiles like the applications in development today intend to. Instead, the Soviet laser tank aimed to blind or burn out the electro-optical sensors missiles used to find their targets. Once blinded or damaged, a missile would miss its intended target, whether that was the 1K17 or other nearby assets. Other planned applications included using the laser apparatus to blind heavy vehicles like tanks, making it impossible for them to aim and fire accurately.

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 No.1085

>>1076
Lasers are the ultimate defensive weapon, if they are mass produced most post-ww1 military tech will be obsolete (tanks, planes, missiles, ever artillery) we will probably see a return to light infantry trench and subterranean wars, and perhaps chemical and biological weapons replacing nukes as WMDs of choice. While WW1 sucked this is a positive development as military technology will be in an equilibrium that favors defenders, compared to what it is today which favors a first strike aggressor.

 No.1514

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Belarus using permablinding systems:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5xAH4kZjiw

 No.1644

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>>1514
Also on topic of hand-held lazer guns >>178

 No.1901

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How will LASERs change the face of warfare. I personally feel like they will render missiles obsolete. A lot of publications seem to be talking up the idea of laser defense against ICBMs. I don't know about LASERs defending an entire area against missiles, but they certainly will be able to defend a target the missiles are heading towards like a tank or a plane. Frankly LASERs should be able to burn up enemy planes no problem, so then the equation becomes which plane can mount the better LASER so I think in the future fighter jets will become obsolete and high power gunships will become the dominant type of aircraft.

 No.1903

See >>1076 anon.

 No.1908

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-touts-new-generation-blinding-laser-weapons-2022-05-18/?taid=6284dfd68664e8000198592d&

>Russia on Wednesday said it was using a new generation of powerful lasers in Ukraine to burn up drones, deploying some of Moscow's secret weapons to counter a flood of Western arms.


>Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2018 unveiled an intercontinental ballistic missile, underwater nuclear drones, a supersonic weapon and a laser weapon.


>Little is known about the specifics of the new laser. Putin mentioned one called Peresvet, named after a medieval Orthodox warrior monk Alexander Peresvet who perished in mortal combat.


>Yury Borisov, the deputy prime minister in charge of military development, told a conference in Moscow that Peresvet was already being widely deployed and it could blind satellites up to 1,500 km above Earth.


>He said there were already more powerful systems than Peresvet that could burn up drones and other equipment. Borisov cited a test on Tuesday which he said had burned up a drone 5 km away within five seconds.


>"If Peresvet blinds, then the new generation of laser weapons lead to the physical destruction of the target - thermal destruction, they burn up," he told Russian state television.


>Asked if such weapons were being used in Ukraine, Borisov said: "Yes. The first prototypes are already being used there." He said the weapon was called "Zadira".

 No.2492

>>1908
Apparently they may be using them to counter US satellites that are sending targeting data to Ukraine, blinding their sensors and possibly burning out the delicate systems.
If you fire a laser at a camera first of all the camera won't see anything, second if the laser is strong enough the sensors will be damaged because they're sensitive. If the sensors get damaged the camera doesn't work and - the sattelite turns into one large hunk of useless (but expensive) metal.

 No.2498

>All this laser posting
>nobody talks about Soviet Space satellite lasers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyus_(spacecraft)

 No.2499

>>2492


>>2492
>Apparently they may be using them to counter US satellites that are sending targeting data to Ukraine, blinding their sensors and possibly burning out the delicate systems.

What's the technical international law position on this, as if it matters?

If one country has a right to point a light sensor does the other country have a right to point a light emitter?

If satellites can be easily disabled in a kind of non destructive, deniable way it could change a lot.

 No.2500

>>2499
I don't know about the legality of it, but the USA can't really complain in this situation, since they're engaged in a proxy conflict, then again they'll never miss a chance to bitch about Russia, no matter the cause. But since it's hard to prove, it's a pretty decent device… though it's not easy to do considering the power needed to fire a laser that far and keep the beam from scattering.

 No.2504

Laseranon probably busted a nut to this news

 No.2551

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>>2504
I bet.

>>1908
>>2492
>The Financial Times writes that the Starlink Internet from Musk suddenly crashed at the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Rybar suggests that this is due to field tests of the Tirada electronic warfare system. Useful to see what kind of animal it is. I share with you.
>"Tirada-2S" ("Tirada-2.3") - a complex of electronic warfare to destroy enemy communications satellites. The complex was created in two versions - mobile and stationary. Development work on the creation of the complex began in 2001 at the Central Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense No. 46 in Moscow.
>In November 2017, Oleg Achasov, deputy head of the 46th Central Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense, announced that, as part of the weapons modernization program for 2018-2027, work would be completed on two projects of means of destroying communications satellites. These are the Rudolf mobile strike anti-satellite complex and the Tirada-2S mobile complex for electronic destruction of communication satellites.
Personally I would prefer Musk pulling the plug for being insulted by the Ukrainian government. Much more entertaining that way.

 No.2605

https://southfront.org/uk-tests-accuracy-power-of-its-dragonfire-laser-weapon/
>The British military has tested the DragonFire long-range laser-guided energy weapon. Prior to that, the ability of lasers to track a target and hit it was tested by a team of specialists from the developer company. The new tests included hitting targets at various distances.
Yet another announced laser weapon nothingburger. How long until lasers become an actual utilized system outside of targeting lads?

 No.2639

>>2605
Diffusion of power in the atmosphere is bad.
Satellite vs satellite to avoid interference?

 No.2640

>>2639
You can overcome the atmospheric diffusion problem if you avoid heating up air.
That means that you can't put too much laser power into the same space.
Effective laser weapons will have a spread out array of millions of relatively weak lasers that form a combined beam that has a cone shape whose pointy end meets the thing that gets lasered.

 No.2732

>>2640
that requires a very sensitive piece of equipment to be meaningfully useful

 No.2748

yoooooo woww

 No.2789

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YouTube Moderation deleted some of Laseranon's posts.

 No.2790

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 No.2791

>>2789
This is the single most comprehensive archive on the internet right now.

 No.2792

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>>2640
>Effective laser weapons will have a spread out array of millions of relatively weak lasers that form a combined beam that has a cone shape whose pointy end meets the thing that gets lasered.

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 No.4013

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 No.4026

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>>2792
>this text combined with this picture
ok clover

 No.4028

>>1908
>>2492
This seems like bullshit

 No.4031

>>4028
Anon, we literally had a schizo-laser poster on this site and 4chan that made lasers that could burn and blind people, there's a reason there's a warning not to point them in someone's eye.

 No.4593

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>>2789
>>2790
See the Laser-anon thread >>4206
The Youtube videos are there

>>1076
The Сжатие laser tank was the Soviet counter to NATO optical sensors. The USSR was still in the process of creating thermals and IR sensors of the next generation and they were not wide-spread in the armed forces, which is why no export tanks had the most modern systems as I talked about in >>3975
Thus the Soviet military proposed something similar to what it did in the assault on Berlin with spot-lights / search-lights from the PVO, turning them to face the enemy and blinding them, only with a laser the damage to optical sensors on such tanks like the M1A1SA would be significantly higher, more precise and permanent. Additionally, human troops or any visual sensors would be blinded such as with ATGMs. A similar concept was applied with the Shtora light system on the old T-90A >>3449
The Szhatiye program is being revived at the moment, as laser technology has improved.
https://topwar.ru/108743-v-rossii-vozrozhden-proekt-lazernogo-kompleksa-szhatie.html

 No.4594

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Laser weapon news; successful tests of the British Dragon Fire system and a similar US system for anti-air/anti-personnel capability is being tested in the Middle East. The systems resembles the Soviet/Russian Пересвет (Peresvet) laser system which was revealed only in 2018.

https://topwar.ru/237416-britanija-uspeshno-ispytala-lazernoe-oruzhie-dragon-fire-s-shassi-bronemashiny-wolfhound.html

https://topwar.ru/237543-armija-ssha-provodit-ispytanija-zenitnyh-lazernyh-ustanovok-na-blizhnem-vostoke.html

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Лазерное_оружие_СССР?useskin=vector

 No.4595

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZM-87?useskin=vector

Also this thread is sleeping on the ZM-87, we need more information on this system

 No.4596

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Soviet LASER pistol for astronauts. It's only powerful enough to overload cameras but it looks cool. It actually has single use battery cartridges like bullets in the magazine. The idea was for the astronauts on space stations to shoot this out the window at approaching ships.

 No.4597

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>>4596
There was a laser revolver version of this too. It reminds me of the laser pistol from the original Alien (1979) film.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лазерный_пистолет?useskin=vector

https://en.topwar.ru/38339-sdelano-v-sssr-lazernyy-pistolet-kosmonavta.html

 No.4602

>>4597
The laser pistol actually looks cool. The revolver has to be the ugliest looking firearm I've ever seen.


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