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Recent Norinco rifle for the PLA replacing the QBZ-95/Type 95 bullpup. Has normal assault rifle, carbine and DMR variants, more info in the attached video.
Thoughts?

 

citations for the video:
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnoaWO3KDIA&t=0s
[2] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-22
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5g_wjBFn4I&t=0s
[4] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/18/chinese-pla-ground-forces-marines-replace-qbz-95-1-completely-new-non-bullpup-rifle/
[5] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-15
[6] https://twitter.com/RickJoe_PLA/status/1328108709155729408
[7] https://twitter.com/RickJoe_PLA/status/1378932519421145091
[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.8%C3%9742mm#/media/File:5.8x42_mm.jpg
[9] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz1x/qbz1x.htm
[10] http://pewpewpew.work/ammo/58x42/58mm.htm
[11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaSn7T0NGgQ
[12] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/08/16/modern-intermediate-calibers-016-5-8x42mm-chinese/
[13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlfU74J6COE
[14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC4uTO54Pmw
[15] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lnLzTR51bc
[16] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1xbgjyzyUQ
[17] https://www.shiguangchaguan.com/xuagl/2020100235734794
[18] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6cm9rFDa8
[19] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-29
[20] https://news.ifeng.com/c/80jFCK7gXM8
[21] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-22.
[22] https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/i-have-a-colt-ar-15-sp1-serial-4120-in-mint-condition.-rarely-ever-shot....-571480.html
[23] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-16
[24] https://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/gun-reviews/cmmg-mk47-mutant-review/
[25] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-80
[26] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/09/30/first-photo-of-the-chinese-pla-new-standard-rifle-and-what-we-know-so-far/
[27] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-71
[28] http://pewpewpew.work/china/sr/qbu88/qbu88.htm
[29] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPwTGfhUulk
[30] http://abesguncave.com/the-best-ar-15-bolt-carrier-groups-what-they-really-cost/
[31] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-37
[32] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-38
[33] https://themagshack.com/shop/rifle-magazines/ak-47-magazines/magpul-pmag-7-62x39mm-m3-ak-akm-30-rd/
[34] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz95/acces.htm
[35] https://twitter.com/z5J6NWig6ByNnsC/status/1306386020636581890
[36] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-51
[37] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-50
[38] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz95/qbz951.htm
[39] https://twitter.com/z5J6NWig6ByNnsC/status/1370962732225208320
[40] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-28
[41] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz95/qbz95family.htm
[42] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-52
[43] https://twitter.com/KushigumoAkane/status/1367426926898376705
[44] https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta01-d-100318
[45] https://patents.google.com/patent/US4806007A/en
[46] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-21
[47] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-16
[48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwA3Vmjps1g
[49] https://twitter.com/z5J6NWig6ByNnsC/status/1364381318814060550
[50] https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gK4y1a7D5
[51] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-44
[52] https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qy4y1b77t?from=search&seid=7971798476117391858
[53] https://www.stagezeroshooting.com/lead-star-arms-grunt-ar-15-rifle-223-556.html
[54] https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016960011

 

Looks cool. I hope they export these into Canada.

 

I don't like AK magwells. They should have switched to M16 style magwells.

 

Should have got rid of the reciprocating charging handle as well.

 

I wish the export variants of chinese guns weren't so shit. They look functional and solid in the hands of PLA soldiers but the international weapons are always shoddy.
I'm 99% sure this is intentional, and the PLA doesnt use the same guns they export, because it would be stupid to just sell your primary rifle to your enemy. Oh well

 

>>45
Maybe less practical but they look cool, lol

 

>>42
Are the variants just different barrel lengths?

 

>>47
Could they not just sell the same rifle but semi-auto only? If their competitors want to receive a Chinese rifle they can easily aquire one through other means surely, I mean there has got to be hundreds of millions of them in China.

 

>>47
>>50
they prolly just sell off the ones that didn't pass quality control lol

 

>>50
Sure, but thats not must what they do afaik

 

>>42
It's like they tried to combine the AK and AR together.


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