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 No.42

Recent Norinco rifle for the PLA replacing the QBZ-95/Type 95 bullpup. Has normal assault rifle, carbine and DMR variants, more info in the attached video.
Thoughts?

 No.43

citations for the video:
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnoaWO3KDIA&t=0s
[2] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-22
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5g_wjBFn4I&t=0s
[4] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/18/chinese-pla-ground-forces-marines-replace-qbz-95-1-completely-new-non-bullpup-rifle/
[5] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-15
[6] https://twitter.com/RickJoe_PLA/status/1328108709155729408
[7] https://twitter.com/RickJoe_PLA/status/1378932519421145091
[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.8%C3%9742mm#/media/File:5.8x42_mm.jpg
[9] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz1x/qbz1x.htm
[10] http://pewpewpew.work/ammo/58x42/58mm.htm
[11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaSn7T0NGgQ
[12] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/08/16/modern-intermediate-calibers-016-5-8x42mm-chinese/
[13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlfU74J6COE
[14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC4uTO54Pmw
[15] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lnLzTR51bc
[16] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1xbgjyzyUQ
[17] https://www.shiguangchaguan.com/xuagl/2020100235734794
[18] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6cm9rFDa8
[19] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-29
[20] https://news.ifeng.com/c/80jFCK7gXM8
[21] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-22.
[22] https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/i-have-a-colt-ar-15-sp1-serial-4120-in-mint-condition.-rarely-ever-shot....-571480.html
[23] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-16
[24] https://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/gun-reviews/cmmg-mk47-mutant-review/
[25] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-80
[26] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/09/30/first-photo-of-the-chinese-pla-new-standard-rifle-and-what-we-know-so-far/
[27] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-71
[28] http://pewpewpew.work/china/sr/qbu88/qbu88.htm
[29] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPwTGfhUulk
[30] http://abesguncave.com/the-best-ar-15-bolt-carrier-groups-what-they-really-cost/
[31] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-37
[32] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-38
[33] https://themagshack.com/shop/rifle-magazines/ak-47-magazines/magpul-pmag-7-62x39mm-m3-ak-akm-30-rd/
[34] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz95/acces.htm
[35] https://twitter.com/z5J6NWig6ByNnsC/status/1306386020636581890
[36] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-51
[37] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-50
[38] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz95/qbz951.htm
[39] https://twitter.com/z5J6NWig6ByNnsC/status/1370962732225208320
[40] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-28
[41] http://pewpewpew.work/china/rifle/qbz95/qbz95family.htm
[42] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-52
[43] https://twitter.com/KushigumoAkane/status/1367426926898376705
[44] https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta01-d-100318
[45] https://patents.google.com/patent/US4806007A/en
[46] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-21
[47] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-16
[48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwA3Vmjps1g
[49] https://twitter.com/z5J6NWig6ByNnsC/status/1364381318814060550
[50] https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gK4y1a7D5
[51] https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/qbz-191-service-rifle-family.8461/page-44
[52] https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qy4y1b77t?from=search&seid=7971798476117391858
[53] https://www.stagezeroshooting.com/lead-star-arms-grunt-ar-15-rifle-223-556.html
[54] https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016960011

 No.44

Looks cool. I hope they export these into Canada.

 No.45

I don't like AK magwells. They should have switched to M16 style magwells.

 No.46

Should have got rid of the reciprocating charging handle as well.

 No.47

I wish the export variants of chinese guns weren't so shit. They look functional and solid in the hands of PLA soldiers but the international weapons are always shoddy.
I'm 99% sure this is intentional, and the PLA doesnt use the same guns they export, because it would be stupid to just sell your primary rifle to your enemy. Oh well

 No.48

>>45
Maybe less practical but they look cool, lol

 No.49

>>42
Are the variants just different barrel lengths?

 No.50

>>47
Could they not just sell the same rifle but semi-auto only? If their competitors want to receive a Chinese rifle they can easily aquire one through other means surely, I mean there has got to be hundreds of millions of them in China.

 No.51

>>47
>>50
they prolly just sell off the ones that didn't pass quality control lol

 No.52

>>50
Sure, but thats not must what they do afaik


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