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Even if Iran had shot one down, the F-15's KDR would still be 104:1

>>6134
The 104:0 is bullshit. Several were shot down during Bekaa but were marked down as malfunctions or hit by AA defenses by Israel and the USA, despite a few kills and damaged (beyond repair) actually going to Syrian MiG-23 and 21s. Same thing has happened several times over the decades. Iraqi MiG-25s shot down at least 1 F-15 (denied by the USAF) and heavily damaged another. It helps that the F-15 was always either 1:1 or outnumbered its adversaries and had AWACs and EW to help it.

That being said OP is a fucking retard. The F-15 is one of the best fighter jets ever designed and definitely earned its place in history as such, while its combat record may have had it supported by significant air operations and the USAF may deny losses or rewrite them, the fact of the matter is it is a phenomenal aircraft and understating it capability is stupid.

>>6136
>The F-15 is one of the best fighter jets ever designed and definitely earned its place in history as such
In 19900 is was pretty good, but that was over 35 years ago. Today it is ancient, obsolete technology.

>>6137
The only obsolete issues would be electronics and stealth, but stealth isn't the game changer people think, a powerful RADAR and data-linking with other RADARs can fix that. Electronics are easily replaced and have been. The Airframe is still one of the best in the world. The only current fighter aircraft that are definitively superior is the F-22, Su-57, J-20 and Su-35. The Su-34 is a superior strike aircraft but it and the Russian and Chinese Su-30 variants are all on an equal level. The F-35's main gimmick is its stealth and electronic warfare/surveillance capabilities, but the latter can easily be replicated on an F-15 airframe as they did with the EA-18G Growler (SEAD Super-Hornets). The Rafale, Gripen and Eurofighter Typhoon are light fighters that only stand a chance in dogfighting. The main reason the Kuwaiti F-18 hit those 3 F-15s was the element of surprise and the lack of SEAD concentrated on spoofing its systems. The F-16 is definitively inferior to the F-15 in capability. The F-14 is inferior in WVR combat and out of service, the Iranian versions are very outdated and rundown. The JF-10 and JF-17 are good fighters but in the same boat as the F-16. Yet all these are currently fielded aircraft.

>>6136
Its a failure because it fails materially and economically to be good value for money. Now that anti-air and chinese military tech is on par with it for a fraction of the cost its basically a big flying money vault to be cracked open while the american empire gets bled dry by its hubris.