Old /co/ thread is dead and buried.
Let's have a new thread to talk about comics and animation.
What are some good long running web comics to bing read<br/>I always enjoyed going through pages of that rotund guy who strangles an animephobic dodo<br/><br/>I've been thinking about reading that Ctrl+Alt+Del comic<br/>Is it funny like that? <br/><br/>Drop some website links for some fun webcomics (If you can from the first page) I prefer non serialized<br/><br/><a href="
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https://www.smbc-comics.com/</a><br/><a href="
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https://www.whompcomic.com/</a><br/><a href="
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http://www.deathbulge.com/comics</a><br/><a href="
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https://poorlydrawnlines.com/</a>>>6816anon likes cats hahaah
>>6827NOICE
>>6094Red Rosa by Kate Evans
Nestor Makhno by Philippe Thirault
Everything by Joe Sacco
Berlin by Jason Lutes
The Eternaut by Hector Oesterheld
Grant Morrison and Alan Moore are both anarchists but it doesn't necessarily come across very strongly in most of their work
John Wagner's Judge Dredd is a satire on American policing and attitudes towards crime; Marshal Law and Terror Assaulter O.M.W.O.T. are similar
Yossel, April 19, 1943 by Joe Kubert and Once Upon a Time in France by Fabien Nury are both about anti-Nazi partisans
The original Superman comics by Siegel and Shuster are more New Dealer than hard left but they're still very political. Grant Morrison's New 52 Action Comics run is supposed to be a modernized version.
Orbital by Sylvain Runberg is a space opera about a multiculti space federation and the villains are human separatists
Stuck Rubber Baby by Howard Cruze is about a gay man who gets involved in the civil rights movement
Batman: The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller is (despite Miller's best intentions probably) a great satire about how fash Batman is if you cast him in realistic terms.
Haven't read 100% of those so some could be trash. There's also no shortage of message of the week capeshit stories like Green Lantern/Green Arrow where some supercop learns that poverty is bad or whatever but through comic book magic goes back to ignoring it and doing supercop stuff.
>>6848There was an amusing anarkiddie Tintin comic posted a while back.
The Adventures of Tintin - Breaking Free (1989) (c2c) (phillywilly-Empire)
https://www.mediafire.com/?gjyfni4rvbty1m2/ Alright, so you know how I said a big HMMMMMM to Archer? Back in
>>6895 ?
Well they openly namedrop Operation Gladio and call it a "weird crypto-fascist CIA shitshow", and explain Operation Paperclip.
>>6990https://screenrant.com/guardians-galaxy-3-thor-4-script-gunn-waititi/okay yeah they did
that's so cool
i feel these two are the only guys that somehow broke free of the marvel overheads
i don't know how they bullied them back but it's good
for example those goats in the trailer? which thor's boats are being led by? they didn't allow that back in 2009 but here we are now
>>7001can you go more indepth on those two batman versions?
what makes them
>paying camgirls to roleplay as Doctor Girlfriend>not even for any erotic reason just because it's fucking hilarious>>6956Gladio is a theme in S3 episode "Lo Scandalo"
Paperclip and Nazi's fleeing to South America is explicitly implied in the B-plot of S2 episode Placebo Effect
and apparently there's more references to IRL CIA covert ops that I haven't watched yet.
>>7018I've heard that theory that he's going to be introduce in this film and it sounds dope af
He will be out buying milk or something
And then Thor will take him under his wing, And he'll basically be like thor from the first movie
Rich, old god kid learning new ways
>>7030>Literally the difference between #223 and #224 is night and day.brb, checking out
also
don't you mean knight and day?
>>7058>>7063i also went on a spongebob chronological order watching spree a few years ago
the first 2 seasons are the classic ones with all of the famous episodes, i found out
>>7063I know the trend of later seasons to get worse and that spongebob is the biggest cash cow of nickelodeon by far, but
just the first two seasons? How can a show even crash so hard?
>>6990They are normalizing women having muscles so that's also a plus.
>I wonder if James Gunn and Takia Waiti collaborated for this flickKorg is in it so yeah.
>>7110yes
this is from superman/doomsday comic
they end him in the most dope way possible
>>7115LOL, do you have any idea of what comic
>>7168kingpin hasn't caused building mayhem?
but yeah street level thugs would work
guess they were going for a campy togetherness thing with
"see even the bad guys are against 9/11"
>>7191M.O.D.O.K. is a legit threat in the comics.
He’s almost Dr. Doom level.
>>7196wait which villain are you talking about?
>>7202i saw they also made him the final boss in the new avengers games
he's like a kaiju
>>6990Same.
I guess the new Dr. Strange is getting a lot of shit, but I thought they let Raimi have way more creative control than a lot of these other films give their directors. It’s first one in a while where the special effects and action scenes didn’t make me roll my eyes.
>>7214There's a effect where the fights with himself with musical effects no?
I can't wait for it to come out and digital to watch it
I heard there was some 80% drop-off in the box office for some reason?
Was it really because of fan backlash on the cameos or is there something else that caused it
>>7246What were the others?
Is there any reason why they were like that? What was happening in the 90s
>>7251Tiny Toon Adventures
Animaniacs
Pinky and the Brain
unbelievable amounts of cocaine
>>7257That's a lot more than I thought existed
>Tiny Toon AdventuresIs this the one that got into a controversy cause it showed bugs bunny drinking alcohol?
I only ever saw this baby version of looney tunes
The wikipage says they're reviving it on HBO Max
>>7323The anime (mostly; a joint production between a Japanese, a Finnish and a Dutch company) from the 90s is slice of life light-fantasy by genre, following a bohemian family living in an idyllic valley on a sparsely populated island. Light-fantasy both in the sense of light in fantasy elements and also very light-hearted, wholesome and relaxed in mood. The time period is ambiguous but probably between 1890–1920 judging by technology.
The episodes are usually self-contained but there are a few multi-parters. I'd say about half of them are very adventurous. A common plot involves the Moomin family discovering a supernatural entity or a powerful force of nature, which they then interact with for a short while before it disappears from their lives. Other episodes are centered around something as mundane as a photography contest. In any case there's a heavy emphasis on character interaction. Characters often end up either complicating things for or doing something heartwarming for one another. There aren't any recurring villains to speak of; the closest we get are a few trickster-type characters who pull pranks that get way out of hand.
>>7302 Redpills, gotcha. The characters Tofslan and Vifslan are actually expys of the author, Tove Jansson, and her lesbian lover Vivica Bandler. Their rather unfortunate English names are Thingumy and Bob.
>>7306>>7311Everyone wants to see themselves as a Snufkin but almost everyone is a Hemulens, a Fillyjonk, a Sniff or at best a Stinky.
>>7363Too many earth lanterns in general. I want more ayylmao GL stories damn it!
>>7359Speaking of Alan Moore. Tyger is still to this day the peak of Green Lantern comics. Fuck that raccoon Goeff Johns for turning it into a Michael Bay action comic with no scale or scope.
Enough Capeshit let's talk 2000AD
>>7400Snyder is just a plain old idiot with Ayn Rand syndrome. I wish they had continued the Gods and Monsters idea. I was interesting while it lasted. Mexican Superman is cool.
>>7417jay garrick looks cool and power girl hummna hummna hummna
i didn't know she was a golden age supe
so these were the old DC superheroes huh?
>>7411what gods and monsters idea, i didn't notice any
>>7423>gods and monstersIn the simplest terms it's an alternate DC world where character origins and personality differ tremendously.
<Batman is actually the Man bat but a vampire<Superman is the son of Zod but Mexican<Wonder Woman is a new god exile after Highfather killed DarkseidIt's also made by the same DCAU crew. They intended to make sequels but it didn't gain much traction so was canceled by DC.
>old DC superheroes huhYeah they exist during the loose DC timeline in the 50s and 60s. Sandman and friends specifically exist in the middle of ww2 period. Some are legacy characters. Like the Starman which has about 10 different successive versions.
>>7436oh yeah this was a machinima partnership
i'm gonna check if it's still there on youtube
>>7469if he blood is so radioactive then why is he still alive
also lol how many times a day was he fuckin bustin in her to give her cancer
>>7469what is DKR??
>>7480that's just so fucking cringe and hilarious
>>6962Most American children's media did. Many such cases.
Obviously there's a few they went the opposite way but never as explicit.
>>6974I don't know which one he's talking about but I'm assuming it's the one where mice take over her house and body?
https://www.firstshowing.net/2008/iron-man-official-joins-marvels-avengers-line-up/holy shit guys
iron man confirmed for avengers
>t-they're not in the same universe!111hulkcels in shambles
who do you think they'll make the main villain
>>7512>my vote is that Dr banner starts to control the hulk, iron man tries to recruit him,(as hinted in ) gets punched out, more or less. then they kiss and make up only to see a fire ball come from valhalla wit thor kicking lokis behind, hulk goes for thor than cap america jumps in and say 'you guys CUMMON now take it outside' then iron man slaps cap A for being gay (whos gonna play the cap?) then they kiss and make up… again then they all fight the biggest super villian of them all…… Barbara Streisand. (or tetsuo from Akira)
insane how this guy in the comment actually predicted the movie
while others where guessing ultron or magneto for main villain
i love reading old comic book movie guesses
it's a blast
>>7497Ezra is trying to do a full Waco. Man took method acting as a school shooter too far.
>>7486Oh I almost forgot about the hundreds of black characters that Bendis wrote would basically fit into most racist caricature.
>Miles has no identity of his own, he needs to steal from others. And a black character has to have electric powers even though it literally makes no sense for Spider-Man to have it.>Riri also steals identity because of course he would write it like that. Also a self victimizing welfare queen stereotype.>Naomi is just a bad marry sue no one cares about>>7492A series Miller made before he went nuts
>>7480At least they are being bashed for that shit.
Lmao
>>7549we need a new era where it fully embraces it's camp and goofynesss
RVTRN to Batman and Robin era
>>7584For the comedy Black manta look no further than the 2003 Aquaman series where Arthur got a water arm that cured Manta of his autism. Turns out he was faking it the whole time.
He's currently having mini series fighting his JLU doppleganger Devil Ray.
>>7573You would love the 2 adam west batman animated movies. those are great, They even had william shatner as two face.
>>7599also Eternity is finally in the MCU
actually feels like the cosmic side of marvel is in now
Not like the Eternals or GotG, actually physically there now
And they shot that shit in a best buy parking lot
>>7639which supe is this
>>7632i love the modern spider-man comics art
they're always punchy and vibrant
same with any of those cartoons turned into comics books
they look good for some reason
>>7663Not gonna watch your shit but Ennis despite hating capeshit understands superheroes and what makes them tick better than all of the show writers put together.
Also the pacing, delivery and overall plot in the show is a fucking mess and they keep writing themselves into a corner. Meanwhile the comic had a coherent plot structure and actually ended.
Also also, the show pretty much removed Love Sausage.
>>7663the characterization in the comics is a lot subtler if you can believe that
>>7688we wont see
vas coming from russia to help the boys kill stormfront together either
>>7688the fans should do one of those fan campaigns to bring him back
it worked for snyder shit
>>7682i'm very confused, who made the comic garth ennis or eric kripke?
i've not seen garth ennis in any of the show's promotions, is he not involved?
>>7676>>7682I mean the government is depicted as shitty but nowhere near as shitty as it actually is, especially the laughable whitewashing of how agencies handled 9/11.
>>7723Ennis is the sole writer of the comic.
Best Lego cartoon by far.
>>7682>US military BTFO'ed capes>The boys outright stated that the president is an old fashioned MIC stooge and their whole point is to protect that against VoughtGarth is a western military simp bro. He thinks them as the lesser evil than the comic book industry. An utterly deranged mindset.
>>7663The comic is better in a lot of ways.
That’s a lie.
>>7733> a daring cat who has high intentions for action and adventure. During one of his adventures, he gets stuck in a cute and cuddly town called Pure Heart Valley with his co-hero Badgerclops, a cyborg-armed badger, and meets Adorabat, a cute little batliterally me
this looks like the other panda show
>>7737what is MIC
can't find the full form online
is it like MI6 of the Bri'rish?
why did they wuss out near the end in the boys story
why would billy the butcher hurt Love Sausage? ;_; RIP
they just make him go crazy because they wanted to hammer the message "violence bad?" "both sides bad?"
>>7767idk, it's on CN
there are many bears on it, it's called something like "We be bears" or something
dn worry
>>7771Billy thought letting any supe live could mean a new Homelander or Black Noir could show up eventually so he put his mission above his comrades, except for Hughie, because he was very similar to his little brother who could calm down his violent urges.
>they just make him go crazyI think the comic spelled it pretty clearly throughout the whole thing.
>>7789i know i just saw it today lmao
who would've thought
>>7794MAO MAO MAO MAO MAO MAO
HAIL CHAIRMAN MEOW
God awful show, my god
Is soldier boy actually as much of a big deal in the comics?
Also the irony of "democracy in the workplace" line considering it's an amazon tv show and they fuckin' hate anybody making unions
>>7807Thanks
>>7837>the girl character is cute but the main character is annoying as fuckDan based, woman gay
you would be beating meat to him he was genderbent
>>7781No he’s not.
Butcher is meant to be a Punisher analogue.
>>7847no way hahaha
can someone run dan under those gender bender apps?
no reason
>>7851yes
>>7856what is he trying to say through butcher then? that revenge is futile?
>>7860True, Unless you happen to look like their most loved relative
Then pass on
>yfw when he lied to hughie about killing his mum and dad so he would kill him but he actually just visited them out of love for hughieFirst I hated the comic ending
But now, I'd be okay with it
Killing supes or controlling them is still the sanest thing
That's one of the main problems with this form of narrative choice
Civil Rights = Mutants falters a bit
Oppression is still bad of such people who can melt buildings with their eyes
If you lived in a world of mutants, and you were NOT one,
would you be pro or anti? /leftyco/
>>7879Based and Sublime pilled
>>7856Ennis said it publicly that the entire series and butcher specifcally is his vent for the hate of supers.
>>7844>Not cock ringwasted opportunity
>>7840Belfast loyalists specifically
https://twitter.com/t_NYC/status/1551201670570336257this is some fucked up shit
the people who worked on the MCU shows for netflix will not be getting paid for this "new" daredevil show according to their contract which starts at season three (it was cancelled)
>>7879so basically mutant kulak
still anti-mutant like the sentinels program
>>7885this sounds like a cool run, "the self-mutated"
what comic is this from?
>>7889i don't know much about belfast? and these loyalists
how do i find out
I started watching the Harley Quinn show and it's pretty fun, the voices are a bit off tho
Like I can recognize them
>>7924I thought he was mad about that, so was gonna kill supes
I should watch Incredibles 2
>>7901Morrison’s new mutants. The run is fucking wild. So much change to the status quo that Marvel panicked and tried to retcon a ton of it.
A funny bit with Sublime is that the U-men was a subtle way for the author to come out as non binary.
>Belfast Look up the Troubles. The clusterfuck de Margaret thatcher used MI6 money to fund loyalist paramilitary death squads in Northern Ireland to kill catholic republicans. Ennis himself love the UK military force at the time while being paradoxically liberal.
>>7924He doesn’t exactly want to make everyone supers. Only the people who can afford to buy his tech, only the rich. Even then it’s after he got old and had all the fun already.
>>7975It's towards the very end. MM decides he's going to run the world and he sits down all the world leaders and tells them how he and Miracle Woman are going to restructure the entire world economy. Maggy goes "and what if we don't let you?" and MM replies "
Let me?" while staring her down. She slinks off defeated while the Miracle family leads the world into a golden age and all the world's former leaders go into therapy.
>>7972I did. I really enjoyed it. The juxtaposition of a bunch of Okey yokels and Asgardian gods was a lot of fun, but then it gets derailed in setting stuff up for Siege, and that Super Great Marvel Event™ ends up throwing it all in the dumpster, so who the fuck cares.
>>7959>>7963>savage dragon Lol the author literally went nuts over the years. There’s one issue where there’s an entire gratuitous sex scene featuring the girl being launched away by ejaculation and having an agehao face.
>>7975Maggie BTFO’ed
>>7980Thor is so funny,
Pigs come and tell him that he can't build on muh private property
He levitates asgard 2 inches off the ground
Free housing king
>>7968>That's what I love about Miracle Man. He massacres nazis and bullied the shit out of Margaret thatcher by saying "full communism now"Just read Miracleman recently. Found it pretty transcendent fwiw, but I read comics. Hard to believe he was writing this kind of material in the eighties.
>I feel like a lot of Cartoonists and especially “comic book writers” have adolescent at best, completely middling and pedestrian at worst, taste in actual capital L literature.Hard to argue with this. Comics were supposed to be the media of the masses though, the tiktok of the time. What comics and the people who still read them have become is….strange.
>>8023What, just now? Not the part where he's like "I have to kill half of everyone in the universe at random?"
And it was obvious in the second movie that his plan failed. Life on earth is exactly the same as it was pre snap, except everyone was sad that some people were missing. You even have kids going on fun study abroad trips instead of dealing with their country catastrophically falling apart because half its fucking population just vanished.
>>8027All I want in life is for that to happen to me
"Just fill up gold and go"
I would die of happiness
WHY IS PET AVENGERS SO FVKING CUTE
who is this dog girl and how is her own the uncle/aunt of spiderman?
>>8055i remember, mine too
>>8061the bellybuttons? what do you call this genre of comics, slice of life comedy?
The entire voice acted animatic of Popeyes got leaked on YouTube and Sony is on full panic mode lmao.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h2eBsfFepGkzmrXVRRwSkzFq2YuL0-Da/viewCommunist praxis in action to the unnamed hero.
What's the difference between Neil Gaimon and Alan More
And why do people find the former annoying?
>>8070Do you think they'll find our hero?
I hope batgirl leaks too, I heard Brendan Fraser was playing somebody innit
>>8023Or if resources are a problem, just make more lol. He literally controls reality. I really think its projection of liberal desires. Like they truly believe in this malthussian bullshit that the issue is overpopulation but it's morally wrong to kill the ones causing the overpopulation, namely, Africa, India, China, and the muslims.
Bill Gates publically states that his goal is to curb overpopulation. The uyghur really funds vaccines all over the third world because he thinks that will cause them to have less children. I find it unlikely that there is 0 racism involved in his programs. And it is definitely malthussian.
Bill Gates is Thanos.
>>8032He also could have just snapped mor habitable planets into existence.
Thanos was a retard.
>>8116yes,the movies in the 60s-90s were goofy shit with no budget,the batman movies,the captain america one,all of them terribly kitch and they weren't taking themselves seriously at all.
then we had the dark knight/man of steel/X-men period,that everybody remember and thinks that's what superhero movies are supposed to be like.
that's how the comics were at the time as well,the batman comics back then were an absolute joke about stupid shit like the joker having something that transform people into human sized keys.
>>8134https://getcomics.info/https://www.comicextra.com/https://xoxocomics.com/use the index on the r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH subreddit,it's great.
you can also just search in bittorrent and on torrent sites I guess.
>>8137>>8149thank you so much
>nestlesux>nestle suxhow can someone with a based name like this become a tyrant, i will not understand
>>8158yes lmao, the terror in the t-rex's face really gets me
it's uwu bean territory
>>8170peeter pee tarker
no, pee taker
>>8170why is the p silent?
>>8174all poo poo
no pee pee makes teter tarker a bitter biter
>>8178i bet they did, insects are the true owners of this planet
you hear about how cockroaches survived the extinction event?
>>8178Yeah, but they couldn't spin silk back then, so spider-dino's power set would be a little reduced.
>>8185>why is the p silent?Because it is in pterodactyl, English doesn't really do 'pt' sound clusters so we just do 't'.
>>8203what do you wanna do truly?
also is that edited or real
>>8207i mean that's fucking funny
i did hate this kind of humor in the new star wars tho,
like oscar issac's character immediately quips after some old guy dies just ruined the tone and his sacrifice
>>8232>what do you wanna do truly?I don't know, I'm very undecided and that's why I'm asking
>also is that edited or realyes, it's from a Dexter's Lab episode
>>8250Depends on the volume. From against opportunists, fascism, lumpen organized crime and monarchism.
Also Asterix and Obelix as Lenin and Stalin.
I watched NWH, didn't like how much it spent on the villains and the fan service wasn't really all that much there, Felt like too much self-aware meta improv
Needed more Peter-to-Peter-to-Peter talks about each of their universes
I will not be paying for the new "10 minutes of fun version" to help fund morbius 2, el muerto 3 and kraven the vegan hunter
They need to slow down with these movies and think some more
>>8280I don't listen to Kanye, what's the reference? Does he walk with crows now
>>7018well that happened
he didn't blabber yet, he said "YES, FADER" and the screen faded to black
i clapped
>>8284I didn't hate NWH but I also felt like it was pretty insubstantial. I thought the whole Dr Strange breaking the universe because he didn't take 5 seconds to just ask Peter specifically what he wanted was fucking retarded, especially when Strange is getting all up Peter's ass about it.
I did like that it gave Doc Ock a second chance though. It was always a bummer that he died considering he wasn't really evil and was being controlled by his arms' AI.
>>8293I love Doc Ock's sweet turn too,
It seemed like Alfred Molina was the only one who really gave it his all
William Da Foe also probably did, but GG is so annoying
We get it, you have two wolves living inside you 🙄
Yeah a lot of the plot just didn't make sense, the only substantial thing we got which I liked was that Peter is broke just like me now
Friendly neighbourhood broke boy
>>8284I guess I should say he listens to JAY-Z. On Watch the Throne there's a track called No Church In The Wild that Ye, Frank Ocean and other feature on. The chorus goes:
Human beings in a mob
What's a mob to a king?
What's a king to a god?
What's a god to a non-believer
Who don't believe in anything?
Will he make it out alive?
Alright, alright
No church in the wild
>>8301>What's a king to a god?>What's a god to a non-believerOh, I thought that phrase existed since time being
I heard it in DBZA: Broly too
Unless that was referencing from this too, Then I'm fucked
>>8309i hate it, idk how they are allowed to write them off when they've been out for such a while
also that french chip and dale show recently? >>>> whatever cynical meta movie that was
>>8309>The Chip and Dale movie was /co/'s 9/11 Worse than
The Powerpuff Girls (2016)?
>>8342Tax write offs, they tell the IRS that they show didn't make a profit and so they don't have to pay taxes for the production but they also have to bury it forever
Also Uncle Grandpa was okay
>>8346Seeing as they get tossed into recycle bins mostly… you can guess.
>>8350>Uncle Grandpa was okayNo it isn't, you're just so used to being exposed to substandard shit at this point that it seems okay
>Tax write offs Fucking porky'd kill their own mothers for a tax write off
>>8338I would guess how it works is that they have an intangible asset (IP or whatever) on the balance sheet which is all the money they put into developing the show. Ordinarily they get to amortise this over a period of several years, so a chunk of it goes to the profit and loss and reduces their taxable income. Now instead they think they won't make enough money off these properties, so they will forego any future profits and just take the whole balance off to the P&L.
Kind of the same situation as scrapping a machine.
>>8358>muh lore>muh ongoing plot Never mentioned either but ok faggot, thanks for proving you know why your taste is shit.
>>8366 Unironically though, stores toss out surplus food to rot, extra/damaged clothing is often no longer donated but burned.
>>8374>U-ur an elitist <hating onAnon, pointing out trash as trash is not hating, it's being objective. It's mindless garbage, not horrific, but that's a pretty low bar.
>arbitrary standardsYeah, no. Sorry if Social Media and memes have burned out your brain-cells, but simply accepting something that relies on random color-noise to generate random low-brow humor with literally nothing else of substance to offer, is substandard content for anyone above the age of 4. Even animated seriees of the 80s, made for Toy selling, had SOME level of nuance and some level of genuine effort in their animation, art style and stories, and if they lacked in one area they tried to make up in another.
>>8379>muh same face syndrom is newi don't get this thing and the whole problem with tracing and music plagiarism
there are only so many styles and ways that you can arrange finite things in that are still enjoyable
>>8386>muh same face syndrom is new Never said that, but you're also incorrect
Pic 1 is not same-face, it's same style, there's a difference, given that they're both Hannah Barbera cartoons and not separate productions like many toonboom tv series. I'm not even talking about Hannah Barbera being low-hanging fruit, as an intentionally poor, lazy animation studio for its time (and still being better than toon-boom shit).
Pic 2 is just fucking laughable and not because its a crappy thumbnail
A) That's not /co/, Dragon Ball is anime
B) ALL Of them are from the same artist Akira Toriyama so their similarities in style are going to be apparent, NONE of them are same-face.
>the whole problem with tracing and music plagiarism Because it leads to carelessness and unoriginality, that further lead to a drop in quality of production. Some tracing or music referencing is normal, but just straight up making the same generic animation/style and often the same 'story' is a terrible standard to have.
>there are only so many styles and ways that you can arrange finite things in that are still enjoyableAnd yet somehow animators on youtube can pull it off.
>>8411Where uygha, lets look back:
>>8354>No it isn't, you're just so used to being exposed to substandard shit at this point that it seems okay >>8370>Never mentioned either but ok faggot, thanks for proving you know why your taste is shit. >>8379>Anon, pointing out trash as trash is not hating, it's being objective. It's mindless garbage, not horrific, but that's a pretty low bar. >Yeah, no. Sorry if Social Media and memes have burned out your brain-cells, but simply accepting something that relies on random color-noise to generate random low-brow humor with literally nothing else of substance to offer, is substandard content for anyone above the age of 4. Even animated seriees of the 80s, made for Toy selling, had SOME level of nuance and some level of genuine effort in their animation, art style and stories, and if they lacked in one area they tried to make up in another.None of these are arguments uygha, you're just hating on a show that you have not seen because it doesn't fit your taste because you're not the target audience, this is /v/ tier of thinking.
You're not even giving me a "I saw uncle grandpa once and didn't laugh", just admit you have not seen it and move on. Go back to 4chan if you want to keep thinking in black and white like this
>>8390Not the anon you're replaying to and actually agree with most points.
>>8415>None of these are argumentsBy that standard faggot, you have no argument at all. I've provided general arguments, I didn't go into detail because you're not making any concrete statements to contest.
Also
>You're not even giving me a "I saw uncle grandpa once and didn't laugh" The fuck is this BS statement? If I had said that you'd just cry about "humor is subjective" another libshit fallacy that gets used to excuse anything.
>Go back to 4chan <muh /v/<copious use of the "uygha" filterYou're the only 4chan faggot here, go back yourself you /co/plet
>you're just hating on a show that you have not seen because it doesn't fit your taste because you're not the target audienceThis fucking faggot argument is libshit deflection. But fine you're looking for a fucking argument? Eat this and shut up.
The people who say that its just for kids may POSSIBLY have a point, if you assume that only kids existed for an audience, in a societal vacuum.
For many (young) kids, seeing a crude joke and many colors is enough to satisfy their sense of humor and adventure. What do they really know of irony and complex motives and moral themes or questions and long form humor, the stuff of beauty in sequential and written art? Very little. BUT the purpose of a good cartoon is to weave such ideas in an understandable way as you tell a fun story, thus Avatar The Last Airbender being a benchmark for animated story telling in Western media.
But, kids grow up, and the crude stuff that used to appeal to them stops doing so, because their tastes grew up as well. As a result, their shelf life and fame are short if an abundance of bright colors and easy cheap jokes was all there was to a show or story.
However, its possible to make a cartoon show that isn't just pretty colors, movement, and cheap jokes. Even the simplest show can insert some complication, some edgy talk or action, and some deeper humor. And so, as the kid and their taste grows up through the years, they come to discover and appreciate its more complex beauties, and the show becomes memorable.
From a more cynical, reductive, and profit-oriented perspective: Memorability = money.
To re-use some well-worn and very applicable quotes:
"A children’s story which is enjoyed only by children is a bad children’s story."
– C. S. Lewis (Seemed to have bit of a hate-boner for the term "Sales Resistance")
"You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."
– Walt Disney (A lover of sappy animation and adapting old stories for it)
Sesame Street for the longest time retained high quality despite being a show for little kids, I can still see an old episode and be entertained and amused even if I don't need to be taught the alphabet. There is no overarching plot in Sesame street but you can still enjoy it even as an adult. Or in Between the Lions, or any number of such children's material.
- Old system: Old fart boss wants to earn money. Boss has no clue how this whole cartoon thing is supposed to work. "Screw it, these people I employ are supposed to know this. Just do it good and I will earn money and we will all be happy, ok? Good, I'm late for golf."
- Modern system: Old fart boss doesn't know much about cartoons. I think I'm supposed to hire some young and 'hip' person who knows this. Let them do the work.
27-35 year old twat who 'totally know what the kids like these days; memes and pop-culture references are totally all the rage on reddit and 9gag and of course liberal idpol'. They make the artists put it in not understanding that the low tier comedy they have based their entire show on has aged like milk during the 6 months it took to animate the season. Twat also is too lazy to have an actual style so they just copy the generic toonboom style that is mislabeled as Calarts today. The entire thing is a flop as anyone could expect and the show becomes cancelled. The twat goes off to another gig and ruins it as well until the entire old legacy of cartoons is retroactively tainted.
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>>7665>>7712 >>8390>And yet somehow animators on youtube can pull it off.I don't really see how they're doing it
My worry still does not subside,
I feel this need to be utmost "unique" and "original" is a product of capitalism and how art has evolved under it
there's only so many ways to skin an apple
>>8424>I don't really see how they're doing it As a hobby and through the magic of computers permitting them to do such things like vid rel.
>I feel this need to be utmost "unique" and "original" is a product of capitalism and how art has evolved under it <there's only so many ways to skin an apple That has a kernel of truth, but my point is that one should strive to make something of their own. Take the recent Netflix film Sea Beast. many of the designs and aesthetics clearly have other influences such as HTTYD, BUT the film is sufficiently creative in its utilization of the aspects and in such provides originality and good quality story.
>>8395This comic is so creepy, Blasphemous
Also sweet another comic book channel, I've never heard of before
I personally don't enjoy seeing my supes suffer
I like to see them quip and have fun fighting their villains, like spidey
Kinda fucked up how they made the line to not kill robin be a paid one, lol
>>8461I can't believe he is an actual dude with a career and not just memes
Damn
>He has written columns for the Socialist WorkerI hope he puts socialist propaganda in his children's books
Are they leftyco material?
I went out and tried to find some comic books near my area and 😔 there was nothing but kiddie versions
I only found one big ass batman art history and Prometheus, alien and predator omni
How do y'all build your collection? Are there local shops or online sites?
>>8469What app do you use
I was browsing F-droid and found this open source app called "Seeneva"
It uses AI to automatically detect speech bubbles and it works bloody good
What is the difference between american and european comics you mean, in aspect ratio terms
If someone does a PC app like this, then it's gonna be utter bliss
>>8471I run ubooquity on my computer with all my comics on it and then kuboo on the tablet hooks into it and I can read stuff from the computer on wi-fi or download for offline reading. Moonreader does the same for prose books.
Sorry, wrong way round, android is better suited to UK/US comics and iOS better for euro comics. Because European comics are usually fatter where UK/US are taller, they don't fit to the screen as well and are by default more zoomed out and smaller. Obv you can still zoom in, but it's a bit annoying.
>>8486>Minor ThreatThat's what they used to call me when I was a kid
>>8473>ubooquity>kuboooh wow thanks, didn't know these existed
how big is your folder
this is probably more /games/ related but i was playing that spider-man game, the one that just got remastered. it's decent, satisfying combat, even if a little simple, neat web-swinging and all that. but i was struck at just how deep in the ideological trashcan the story was, i shouldn't be surprised but i was. norman osborn as mayor creating chemical weapons and hiring a private army to enforce the law, he's clearly painted as this fascist monster who only cares about his own wealth while the city devolves into chaos but when otto strikes back at him, rightly so, they practically dehumanize him and make the notion of sympathizing with him absurd, to the point of him releasing a biblical plague upon the city (a plague that was created by osborn in the first place). you end up saving norman, he slinks away and gets away with it scott-free, meanwhile otto gets fucked up by spider-kulak and they even include otto giving an 'evil' speech about how "you must use power to help people, even if they don't want it! we must forcefully help people beneath us!" shit was fucked up.
atleast MJ was cute.
to make my barely relevant post slightly more relevant, my question is: are the comics like this too?
>>8502>often omit interesting stuff like ads and letters pagestrue dat, i've always loved those old ads, cute ones for jam or mlm for kids
i've been reading up on all the omnibuses, marvel masterworks and epic collections and neither of them seem to have it
>>8504
>otto giving an 'evil' speech about how "you must use power to help people, even if they don't want it! we must forcefully help people beneath us!cringe, i don't regret not having a good enough pc to play this game
are traditional superhero comics reactionary because they seek to maintain the status quo?
>>8506i dropped it in 0.2 minutes in, as soon as i heard some middle eastern guy thank the american soldier and the villain being set up were anti-nationalists
erasing winter soldier would make marvel 90% less anti-reactionary
also i just now thought how fucked it is that they did deals with weapons manufacturers and their ceo is like buddy with trump
Does DC have any dirt like that behind the scenes?
Warner Bros doing genocide
>>8508>are traditional superhero comics reactionary because they seek to maintain the status quo?Essentially yes.
Superman is complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people.
>>8471>I was browsing F-droid and found this open source app called "Seeneva"
>It uses AI to automatically detect speech bubbles and it works bloody goodIf someone does a PC app like this, then it's gonna be utter blissAny linux software with features like this?
I've looked several times but have still defaulted to the bundled kde comic reader. There's gotta be a better way to read comics on a 42" LCD TV. Still the best way to enjoy comics imo.
>>8519Damn that must be fun scrolling on a 42 inch, Could you post a picture
Why do you consider it to be the best way, Because you can see the full page spreads?
I'm sorry I don't know if there is any software for linux, I can't see it's appstore
There's wine to emulate windows apps, is there none for android? It's basically linux
>>8521come on now, use your imagination. visualize any large screen TV with your laptop plugged into it. then visualize you reclined on a hot couch with a wireless mouse or something.
It's the shit. Don't know why people don't talk about it more. fuckers got 96 inch TVs now.
Obviously I don't read capeshit, but the Immortal Hulk run on a big screen in the dark is….the shit.
Yeah, it can be a pain switching from full page spreads to single, and zooming, and switching back….but for me, it's a large tv.
>>8523i seriously searched before this, people reading comics on odd things
nintendo switch, but no one reading on their tv, i think you're the world's first
why does everyone like the immortal run hulk, what's gucci about it?
>>8526Well I am a high iq chad, but I can't be the only one doing this.
You can control any linux box plugged into a tv with a mouse, airmouse, keyboard, phone, tablet…..It's the only way I read comics for years now. Same for windows and android boxes.
Immortal Hulk because the art is XXL widescreen style, and it's a well written run too.
I used a $20 airmouse for years until I dropped it too many times. Gotta get another.
Try it and report back anon. Try a specialized comic reader app, not a general document viewer. I'm using okular rn just because it comes with kde.
>>8528I don't have a tv, but I will try it if I ever buy one
>>8532>where he’s a swarm of shipsXD
i've never read ultimate, that's hilarious
shit like sue being a future word of kang that just comes and disappears and hulk being a cannibal, oh man
>>8534Ultimate has a lot of whacky shit. Like Dr Doom being a satyr and the Fantastic 4 breaking up because Sue got with Ben rather than Reed.
Ultimates part 2 was straight up Bush level of war mongering hawkishness.
>>8556lol,
is that actually a plotline?
>>8566Also what are some other good webcomic e-books?
What's the name of that one with the turtle, mouse and rat friends
>>8572what are you talking about when you say Fuko and Konjak ?
you expected both the G and the T to be silent I presume.
>>8573>>8572They kind of are if you're talking about just Vingt, it's more like Van with the whole back end swallowed, but if it's got the ième on the back it's van-tyem.
The rules are not that inconsistent though. Consider doigt/doigtage.
I guess by Fuko he means Foucault and Konjak he means Cognac.
>>8576>Consider doigt/doigtagekinky
I wasn't sure because "u" in phonetic is just u and not "ou",but ault being said "o" is pretty fucked,going to give him that.
I also don't think it's really inconsistent too.
>>8579Norbert Wallez also engaged Leon Degrelle for his paper too if you want more funny trivia.
And the Economist (really makes me think) also said the depiction in the book was "surprisingly accurate" even tho Hergé himself disawoved it.
>>8590One word adult Disney tards. They would buy anything of Disney branding no matter what. Lion King remake was shit yet it raked in more than 1.2 billion. Same for incredibles 2 or toy story 4.
>>8579For easy glowie infiltration
>>8587>I get why the soviets drove him away out of the USSRWtf really
>>8594thats a girl?
how an why did she win
FREE THE PEOPLE'S JOKER,
Idc about it but damn the name goes hard also copyright is cringe
>>8604what was the context of this, he was accused of being one by some evil wizard?
>>8606Okiesss
That's anime thoI heard that Thor is basically a shounen protagonist
Is that true?
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