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 No.1732[Last 50 Posts]

One Piece is leftist

 No.1733

It vaguely is, you can definitely make the connection.

 No.1734

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>>1732
One Piece is libertarian, although left leaning. It's big focus is pursuing your dream no matter what and in defiance of authority. If there is any central ideology I can discern its Egoism.

PS Yay, Finally a One Piece Thread!

 No.1735

>>1734
Its anarchist

 No.1736

>>1735
In a chaotic, egotistical sense, yes. On the Political Compass it would be leftist libertarian. Which is impractical IRL but a fun fantasy to read about.

 No.1737

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It's Libertarian in some sense but I vaguely assume Oda has communist sympathies because he's got che guevara hanging up in his office and the fact that the revolutionaries exist in his story.

Like Luffy's dream is being the most free in the seas, but naturally there are other pirates who value freedom that will fuck other people up like Blackbeard or Kidd. Plus Oda's shown us good natured Marines like Garp, Fujitora, Smoker, and several others. There obviously will be some form of government when One Piece comes to an end, it just won't be at the beck and call of bourgeoisie fascists like the celestial dragons. One Piece is a good baby's first leftism, I appreciate having it when I was younger, it helped me get here.

(fun fact, in this sbs answer Oda makes it a point to say that his stereotypical thoughts are "world peace")

 No.1738

>>1737
He also knows a lot about communism. Dragon is directly based off of Castro as explained in the vivre cards.

 No.1739

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>>1738
Ah I didn't catch that, but thanks for letting me know. That's pretty based of Oda, though communism as understood by Japan is pretty light and soc-dem like, ain't it?

At any rate, let's post some inspiring One Piece stuff. I've been meaning to talk about it in a leftist space for a long ass while.

 No.1740

>>1738
While initially true, I feel that Oda has either liberalized or been forced to liberalize One Piece because the Revolutionary Army in canon declared that it intented only to remove the 'bad kings' and World Government. Essentially playing the "good ruler stay/back in power" card

 No.1741

>>1740
It's just gonna be "not all kings" or some shit because of the good kings we've met, but I think getting rid of the world government in general is a good thing, or at least the celestial dragons.

 No.1742

>>1741
I feel as long as the celestial dragons and im are removed from power, that it can still be considered leftist. You could make an argument that keeping the good kings is still "democratic" since they are in a way chosen by the masses. Idk.

 No.1743

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>>1732
I've just started watching the anime and've noticed that Captain Kuro looks a lot like Stirner.

 No.1744

>>1742
Even if they're making the Revolutionary Army a bit faggy, keep in mind that all the "good kings" were not actual royal families that ruled over those countries from the start.
The Celestial Dragons were the actual kings of all the world's kingdoms before they moved to that heaven of theirs as seen with Doflamingo and Dressrosa

 No.1745

>>1743
shame hes just a shitty one shot villain

 No.1746

>>1743
also read the manga instead. youll enjoy it more. Toei has horrible pacing and adds tons of filler

 No.1747

>>1743
They have similar egotistical personalities too.

 No.1748

>>1742
>chosen by the masses
no they aren't Alabasta, Fishman Island and DressRosa are exceptions as demonstrated in the reverie

 No.1749

>>1748
the only ones you've listed there that are true are Alabasta. As The Nerfertiti were dsecended from the original 20 world kings. Fishman Island is it's own thing, and Dressrosa was coup'd by a celestial dragon descendant.

 No.1750

>>1749
This. They're kings in title, but they have popular support from their kingdoms.

 No.1751

>>1749
Alabasta had a literal revolution when shit got bad after Crocodile's manipulations. The Revolutionaries could have removed Nefertiti but chose not to upon the truth being revealed, thus showing that the people in the case of Alabasta could do so.

>Dressrosa

Original rulers WERE Doflamingo who BECAME Celestial Dragons, before one of them lowered back to humanity and the last living member of that line took over Dressrosa from a different line of kings who were of the people.

>Fishman Island is it's own thing

It is a kingdom regardless, but the king is sort-of elected and they seem to have protest movements and such.

All three of these kingdoms have people clearly ready to overthrow improper government but have kind kings. At the same time such kings are the exception among kingdoms. Making the whole 'good king' thing a liberal backtrack.

 No.1752

Skypeia arc was good at dealing with the "no gods no masters" thing

 No.1753

This is probably the most obvious reference to communism in One Piece. I don't remember the cover story too well, but it was something about a workers' revolution in a weapons factory.

 No.1754

bump

 No.1755

>>1753
Unfortunately that antagonist was a massive POS

 No.1756

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>>1755
it doesn't have anything to do with him. He just happens to look like One Piece Che Guevara, now he's in Japan jail.

Oda's got a Che poster hanging up in his office, I've said it before in this thread but I found the picture and it's neat to see. His office has a lot of weird bullshit though so it could be a random visual flare type of thing.

 No.1757

>>1756
Based comrade oda.

 No.1758

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Another find. Mariejois (where the celestial dragons live) is based off of Chateau de Chambord. While not exactly a pivotal building in the French Revolution, I do believe there's a connection to be made there. Especially since as if I recall correctly, Bello Betty is based off of that July Revolution painting too.

 No.1759

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Saw this illustration in the newspaper and made it for fun. Don't really vibe with it since that cop is in this, but hey it's for the meme.

 No.1760

I really liked One Piece years ago but as my tastes developed I sort of lost my taste for it, and the series has been stretched out to the point where going over the story is a bit of a headache.

 No.1761

>>1760
I literally just got into the story and I can't get beyond dressrosa. There's so much to unpack, especially for a noobie I can't believe I made it this far. Not to mention apperently funimation has been doing a fucking chapter by chapter adaptation of the anime rather than skipping some parts which has made shit just drawn WAY the fuck out. Like long ring long island.
I want to return too it and finish it and be there for the 1k episode, but, god damn.

 No.1762

>>1761
Please read the manga instead, not only is it faster but the art is a lot better and the anime literally RUINS scenes. Take for example, since you've watched up to Fishman Island I'll list a good example from that. The anime adds in a scene of Hody Jones and his band of fucks getting fucked with by adult pirates as babies, to set up them as idolizing Arlong when he saves them. This scene isn't in the manga, and for good reason. At the end of the arc, Hody says his hate for humans isn't based off of ANYTHING in particular, he's simply a byproduct of the generation before him hating humans. This is a very poignant part of the whole arc that's just ruined through the anime trying to add in more filler for time. Most of the time the filler is bad non-cannon additions to the fights, but there's stuff that's reprehensible.

Please consider the manga if you revisit this series again, it really shines as a manga first artistically anyway.

 No.1763

>>1762
This. Im reading the manga rn and its so much faster than the anime and is way easier to digest. Toei ruined the anime with the bad animation and filler hell.

 No.1764

By the way does anyone else here post in one piece general on 4chan /a/?

 No.1765

I finally caught up with the manga. I'm gonna really miss reading it daily.

 No.1766

>>1762
Too clarify, i do not dislike one-piece. On the contrary i absolutely love it. I am just a large digester of anime rather than manga and it makes me sad that the anime is so fucked.

 No.1767

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>>1764
I do, it's been terrible for nearly a decade or so, but I do.
>>1766
S'all good comrade, was just letting ya know. Shame the anime adaption is as bad as it is, Dressrosa is a slog even in the manga IMO so I don't blame anime onlys getting tired from it.

 No.1768

>>1767
>I do, it's been terrible for nearly a decade or so, but I do.

every thread on 4chan is terrible though so its to be expected

 No.1769

>>1768
That's a very fair point. I haven't really felt like 4chan's been fun since 2008 or so. I was a majority /co/ poster too, so it was just generally less of the /pol/ nightmare that the rest of the board was slowly becoming.

Actually, for any other 4chanons in this thread, remember how bad the /a/ op threads were from around the turn of the decade? It was to the point that you'd see a lot of refugee threads on /co/ or /v/ for that reason alone.

 No.1770

>>1769
I started using the threads around dressrosa. I was the BTFOanon/Sanjihatefag

 No.1771

>>1770
I still say fuck Sanji. White Knight bastard keeps acting like a cunt so much it pisses me off. His Wholecake Island sarc gave him some new depth but still.

 No.1772

>>1771
Literally the worst gag character in the series.

 No.1773

>>1770
lmao, I remember trolling that Sanji-Nami shipper in that era. It was fun times. I didn't invent the "bullsopp" narrative but I helped propogate it.

 No.1774

>>1773
>Sanji-Nami
They deserve each other TBH. He would serve her greedy wants tirelessly and she would never have to put out and he would be fine white knighting til he died.

 No.1775

>>1774
Nami's a sweet girl minus the greed, which is mostly played up for jokes. I'd rather Sanji end up forever alone for all his bullshit.

 No.1776

>>1775
Sanji belongs with kiku

 No.1777

>>1775
Shaji is the most annoying character. Very shoe horned. Very transparent.

 No.1778

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>all the sanji haters ITT

 No.1779

>>1778
I like all the strawhats he just annoys me more than the others.

Him being kind and cooking food for whomever is always gonna be the best Sanji. Feeding the hungry is very noble.

 No.1780

>>1779
I hate the cuck part of Sanji that won't hit a woman

 No.1781

>>1780
ok incel

 No.1782

>>1781
Even Luffy hits women, anon.

 No.1783

>>1732
>One Piece
People with basic bitch taste will be put to the gulag

>>1737
>Oda has communist sympathies because he's got che guevara hanging up in his office and the fact that the revolutionaries exist in his story.
Pics or it didn't happened

 No.1784

>>1783
All you had to do was scroll homie. >>1756
Also, fuck you.

 No.1785

Does big mom/tottoland represent liberal/radlib idpol?

 No.1786

>>1785
>forced diversity
>a group of islands governed by children of a dictator whose purported dream is where everyone is equal
>outright ignores this dream whenever greed attacks
sort of I guess. It's more of a "le liberal monarchy/good ruler" parody

 No.1787

>>1786
What does Wano represent?

 No.1788

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>>1787
Hard to say since we haven't seen it in full yet. I want to say Wano has something to do with Oda's desire to see Japan be less nationalistic since Oden hated how cramped the country was, in addition to how the scabbards mentioned that they wanted to open the borders to Wano and stop making it so isolationist. This arc walks a tightrope of "Japan strong" and also "maybe japan not so great" at times.

 No.1789

>>1787
Japan historic and modern.
1) Industrialization is seen as bad because it is used to exploit the people and brings terrible living conditions
2) Instead of a proper feudal monarchy, the state is ruled by a "monarch" who is really more of a figurehead as part of a business and has international power (Orochi deals with World Government officials like an equal) which is similar to a corporate monopoly working with a national government
3) lastly Oden was a 'disgrace' because he lived freely and did not care for how others saw him, breaking the mold of uptight Wano citizens.

All these feel like callbacks to moments in Japanese history.

 No.1790

>>1789
>3) lastly Oden was a 'disgrace' because he lived freely and did not care for how others saw him, breaking the mold of uptight Wano citizens.

Lol everyone in the 4/a/ thread got mad and started shitposting over this. Theres a /pol/ presence there.

 No.1791

Someone should go through every major arc and say what they represent.

 No.1792

>>1790
>Theres a /pol/ presence there.
No shit
>in the 4/a/ thread got mad
screencaps?
>got mad and shitposting
Fucking why? The guy is the definition of a hedonistic libertarian in terms of behaviour. He's just a libertarian with a sense of empathy.

 No.1793

>>1791
I was going to do that but then leftyweebpol went kill with the rest of 8chan so I lost my work.

 No.1794

>>1792
>Fucking why? The guy is the definition of a hedonistic libertarian in terms of behaviour. He's just a libertarian with a sense of empathy.

Because the thread is full of retards who thing the celestial dragons represent jews and they didn't get their typical shonen stoic chad hero

 No.1795

bump

 No.1796

>>1795
Unless you have something to add to the thread, bumping it like this is idiotic

 No.1797

>>1792
With the latest chapter reveal of Oden only dancing because he made a deal to save everyone, people in the /a/ thread are still saying Odens a cuck.

 No.1798

>>1797
LOL the most predictabl twist ever and /a/ just realized?
>he's a cuck
Fucking how? He has no way of killing Orochi who, along with Kaidou, fights dirty. He was putting his people ahead of himself.

 No.1799

>>1798
They just like playing up bad stuff they don't get contextually because being a part of the "outrage" is fun. If you meme "One Piece is bad now" eventually it just becomes popular opinion.

Anyways in regards to Oden, everyone's saying that he should've just called Roger or Whitebeard to help him with Kaidou. Forgetting multiple facts like how Roger is dead at this point and that Wano's Den Den Mushi only have the limited range of the island. Even the "Kaidou is a kidnapper" complaint is dumb when you consider he's a pirate through and through, pretty much a barbarian, and we've seen him all throughout the arc trying to brainwash people under him, so the narrative of "why isn't Kaidou just wrecking everything" they're spinning is objectively dumb.

 No.1800

>>1799
>being a part of the "outrage" is fun

Part of it is also because HxH retards try to slide the thread on a consistent basis.

 No.1801

Oda is sick. Do you guys think he got the corona?

 No.1802

>>1801
He gets sick constantly. I hope not TBH, him dying like the author of HxH would make those faggots intolerable and leave One Piece to be truly an ever-ongoing series.

 No.1803

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>>1802
lets send some dialectic to Oda so that he gets better!

 No.1804

>>1803
I don't think politics posting is going to help him get better, if anything it'll stress him out more.

 No.1805

One Piece is obviously at least partially leftist which makes it hard for me to understand why JUMP allows it to be published. Maybe im just being autistic idk.

 No.1806

>>1805
anything that's critical of the status quo is fine by capitalists so long as they can make money off of it. I mean for fuck's sake they're making an american version of Parasite aren't they?

 No.1807

>>1805
>obviously at least partially leftist
Its libertarian and about "muh freedomz" and abstract concepts of dream. While this is good it isn't very socialist and more liberal than anything pertaining to actual anti-capitalism.

 No.1808

>>1807
Its anarchist. Its against all forms of authority

 No.1809

Have some nice copy-pasta

If you're not familiar of the story of the soon to be pirate king I'll fill you in. Basically this goofy ass kid named Luffy with crazy famous relatives eats an ass tasting fruit and becomes a rubber man. So this goofy rubber ass motherfucker saves a green haird dude that swings a sword in his GODDAMN MOUTH! This crazy fuck lifts like 20 thousand pound dumb bells and shit for hours. This is possible because they frequently dine on giant goddamn monsters. So they go off and find this chef that looks like 20 year old Gordon Ramsey and together they kick the shit out of this gay ass thug in Golden armor that thinks he's hot shit because he's the toughest guy in the area which is full of pussies. They then find a Pinocchio looking freak with a slingshot and bring him along after beating some faggots in catboy cosplays cause why the fuck not. They also recruit a talking reindeer that's half human cause he also ate an ass tasting fruit. Also he's a doctor cause why the fuck not? They also have a chick with regular tits to start but later on in the series they balloon up by three or four times the size. They beat up this gang dude that would fucking whip garaa from Naruto's ass in a sand fight. Then rubber man takes his bitch who ate another ass fruit that let's her have like however many of a body part she wants so boom wings made of a thousand hands eat that shit curse mark sauske with your two wrinkled bat hands. So after fighting a dude with lighting powers who thinks he's good and saving sand dudes bitch from some creepy ass dude and a bunch of assassin's that also end up eating ass fruits they make friends with a cyborg powered by Cola and perverted skeleton and fight some shadow weilding fat Dracula and a bunch of zombies.
Then they save a mermaid slave from over privileged white people. Rubber dude then ends up on an Amazon island and the queen is totally into him because he doesn't give a shit about bitches. Then rubber guys brother dies in a fight between a giant golden dude that ate an ass fruit and about 50 other dudes that ate ass fruits and they got ice powers and light powers and earthquake punches and fucking black holes coming from a fat guy that later eats the earthquake power or some shit. Years later they reunite after being separated and go save more mermaids and then fight dragons and living poison on an island covered in fire and ice. Living poison thing that ate another ass fruit that makes it a lizard fish thing and rubber guy saves some drug addicted giant children from a guy with literal bad gas. Then rubber guy goes to win his dead brother's ass fruit in a roman coliseum style tournament and fight a guy that shoots strings from his fingers and makes this power so strong he almost kills a whole island with it. Then they go a jungle on top of a giant elephant and meet a bunch of athro fap material characters like a super over-sexualized bunny and a dog girl. Bunny girl and a lepord dude go with them to save young Gordon Ramsey from this old ass bitch that eats literal metric tonnes of sweets a day and has an army of warriors that were everyday things imbued with pieces of souls sucked from the people that live there. It's their where a shark man with crazy ass water bending joins them. Now they're in samurai land.

 No.1810

Is jinbei a feudalist?

 No.1811

>>1810
In relation to the Merman king, yes. In relation to over-all world government, no.

 No.1812

>>1732
O relly??
Name one pro communist episode???

 No.1813

>>1759
>the cop
Bro what the fuck is wrong with Kochikame??,
SOMEONE TELL ME
WHEN DID RYOTSU GET CANCELED. HE JUST BE EATING RAMEN AND FIGHTING WITH CHILDREN ABOUT TOYS INSTEAD OF BEING A CAWP

 No.1814

>>1782
ok incel

 No.1815

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Final page of the most recent chapter honestly strikes me in the eels. Haven't had that happen with One Piece for a while. Spoilering for newfags

 No.1816

>>1732
>One Piece is leftist
&ltA crew of libertarians travel the world, executing their personal justice and fighting a globalist government while propping up kingdoms, even against Revolutionaries, who support the king if he's good.

 No.1817

I'll admit when it has to come to the whole Alabasta it kind of makes me wonder if it was a lazy analogy for Iraq. I'm not sure if anyone's aware of it but when it comes to a lot of the buildings and city design specifically Alubarna was based off of Baghdad during the Abassid caliphate especially since both cities had a very round shape.

The big thing that makes me wonder this though is basically the fact that the timing of the Alabasta arc happened around the early 2000s which was around the lead up to the Iraq war which to me seems awfully suspicious especially since in the story Crocodile is shown to be a Shichibukai who did have alliances with the World Governement and attempts to use said power to get rid of a country which looks vaguely like the Middle East until getting defeated by Luffy.

I guess in a way the analogy though messy would work if one were to say Shichibukai were like Al-Qaeda in that they were funded originally to fuck with other pirates but ended up backfiring like it did when the US supported Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein against the Soviets only for Al-Qaeda to do 9/11 and Saddam Hussein to get in the way of the flow of oil which the US wanted. Also, I guess technically Alabasta did have actually a weapon of mass destruction if anyone wants to make a joke about it.

I don't know this is probably a shitty analogy but I don't think Oda thought out the implications of the Alabasta arc.

 No.1818

>>1817
A decent analogy actually but I do concur that Oda was likely only vaguely referencing Middle Eastern conflict, rather than anything specific

 No.1819

More stuff on Dragon being a lose parody of Che that I only just now learned:
his ship is the Wind Granma, named after the ship Grama, which carried Che, Castro, and the rest from Mexico to Cuba to overthrow the Batistas.

Also, Dragon's favorite food is Bocaditos, a cuban slider-style sammich.

There's no doubt in my mind that the revolutionary army aren't based off of the Cuban Revolution now.

 No.1820

>>1819
Well except the fact that the Revolutionaries (post timeskip) have stated their intent to remove the World Government and let the "good kings" rule their countries.

 No.1821

>>1819
This is just hobby-communism, like the author of Youjo Senki >>>/roulette/1501

 No.1852

Still don't understand how One Piece is a left-anarchist manga

>>1821
>hobby-communism
what do that be? your link is broken

 No.1853

>>1852
Hobby communists like history and the aesthetic of communism but aren't necessarily communists.

 No.1857

>>1852
Go to /anime/ catalog and search Youjo Senki the thread was made on roulette but its still there.

 No.1904

>>1758
The name is literally a portmanteau of Mary Antoinette and bourgeois.

 No.1967

So is Kaido's son actually son or a girl? Like the fuck is going on right now?

 No.2053

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>>1967
She is a girl who LA'RPS as Kozuki Oden

 No.2058

>>2053
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. the translations were confusing as shit.

 No.2059

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>>2058
In the 4chan /a/ thread this is a popular topic for flamewars as of lately.

 No.2062

>>2059
Not unexpected. I don't go on /a/ anymore since those cancerous weebs have become as braindead as /co/ has.

 No.2291

I don't know why but Nico Robin's nose feels like one of the best designs in the series and its reduced look post-timeskip is a real shame. Her whole design pre-timeskip was just great in my opinion.

 No.2302

>>2291
not only do I miss it, but Oda now likes to use a similar rendering for people with regular noses when they face frontwards. It makes Robin look less unique, sucks. He also doesn't really connect Robin's nose with the bridge of her eyebrows anymore. She's been moe-ized.

>>1967
>>2053
What's weird but kind of interesting to me is that Luffy respects Yamato's pronouns by calling him "mountain-guy".

 No.2305

>>2302
>pic filename
Strangely enough the anime is actually not as bad as it was. It's still terribly paced and has some dumb shit, but its a marked improvement over shit we saw before.

 No.2317

>>2305
Dressrosa was the animes lowest point

 No.2318

>>2317
Dressrossa, actually (at least after you get through the first half of it) was a really good and captivating arch, in and of itself.
But yeah, Jesus Christ, the anime just drags it on for EVER. I watched at least 30 episodes at x2 speed.

 No.2324

>>2318
Im talking about animation and filler wise. Most of the animation for that arc looked like a child drew it. Its a real shame because like you said it was a really good arc.

 No.2408

One Piece is better than MHA because One Piece is left anarchist while MHA endorses fascism. MHA is basically eugenics sky high but in anime format

 No.2728

You know what One Piece is? Bad.

 No.2729

>>2408
The media you eat up vaguely aligning with your political views doesn't make it better, overly ideologized consumerist dumbass.

 No.3827

Oda is a hack

 No.3828

>>2728
Ok, you're welcome to your opinion

>>2729
This, fucking this. I know radlib "anarchists" who like One Piece over Bleach or Naruto, not because of narrative or story-telling merits, or characters, but because "it's anarchsit and so leftist!"… because ideology somehow makes something a better story.

 No.3829

>>2728
Underrated post.

 No.3832

Shounenshitters.

 No.3835

>>3832
>posting this pseud shit
&ltsaging
stay mad

 No.3878

>>3835
You don't know what pseud means or what sage is for, as expected of someone who unironically likes shonen garbage like Wan Piss.

 No.3886

>>3878
>saging because he doesn't want to get a reply
&ltU-u don't know what sage ees!!
You are a pseud, your denial does nothing to prove otherwise.
>unironically like
&ltHurr if you enjoy something for silly fun ur stoopid
>Wan Piss
For someone supposedly 'above' "muh shonen", you sure get assblasted over it and people who enjoy it.

STAY MAD wannabe hipster

 No.3934

>>3886
sage isn't a downvote, reddito

 No.4259

>>3934
Pot? Meet Kettle, he says you're black!

 No.4569

>>3835
>>3886
>>4259
lmao when checking the backlog this is easily the tenth thread i see with who i guess is the same schizo getting unbelievable mad about people using sage, what the fuck??

 No.4596

>>4569
Given that this the posts are samefag sage-spam about how "hurr this board/thread sucks" it's fairly obvious who you are.

 No.4622

The recent Wano fights with the big-head ninja and some samurai are pretty much ripping on Naruto Shippden fights. This is like Fairy Tail, trying to one up an ended show by switching from their thing to another but flashier and not really getting it off well.

 No.4629

>>2302
>Luffy respects Yamato's pronouns
I think's it just something about the translation as well as the reveal of Yamato being a girl only coming later, so Luffy just refers to Yamato is he's already accustomed to doing.

 No.4630

>>4596
did you have a stroke when typing that?

 No.4631

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>>4596
Eugh what do you hope to accomplish by sperging out whenever someone uses sage?

You must be THE most autistic poster I've seen here.

 No.4632

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>>4631
>hurr you hate sageposters
&ltignores that I literally used sage as it's supposed to be
You're a fucking moron and the hilarious gall of someone replying to a post that is done and over-with is far more pathetic and 'autistic'.

 No.4633

>>4631
Just as a side note. I don't care about sage itself. I use it all the time when it's actually applicable. What I dislike faggots shitting up the threads with;
"hurr why is this board/anime/thread so shit" (I recall about 5 of these posts)
"Hurr animu Cory in the house haha" (2)
"Hurr shounen is shit" (6, this is inspite of the literal Naruto/DBZ hate thread MADE for this kind of commentary)
"hurr any mention of social media or youtube in any way is Muh ecelebs" (5)

Almost without any variation these samefag saged spamposts are made week after week. The mods recently deleted over 15 posts of this crap from the Tanya thread alone because that's how many posts were nothing but sage-spam talking about this crap and derailing the thread (like you are doing). And when it's pointed out "hey, just hide and ignore, stop shitting up threads and using sage as a reddit downvote" they scream reddit.

Now fuck off and post something relevant to the thread.

 No.4634

>>4632
>>4633
If they're made week after week, have you considered you have schizophrenia and it's actually different people? Just a crazy (heh, heh) thought.

 No.4635

>>4633
>sage is reddit except when i use it
lmfao

 No.4638

>>4635
>saging a thread at the top of the catalog is totally reddit!!!
LO fucking L
>>4634
You're not as clever as you think yourself to be. Different people don't make the same fucking posts over and over again.

Post something relevant to the thread or GTFO and stop derailing.

 No.4691

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFaH7Q5UfnU&lc

Just imagine this:
You are an elite navy soldier, proven yourself in many battles, maybe even in the New World. Your strength and speed is low level superhuman, far stronger than regular humans even dream of becoming. Maybe you even show enough potential that your officers started training you in Haki or Rokushiki. Anyway, you are among the 100.000 best of the Navy, chosen to fight in a war against one of the World Governments greatest enemies. Your skill and speed have so far kept you unharmed in this monumental battle. You are rather close to Whitebeard himself. A truly frightening foe, several times a normal humans size, unbelievable strength and one of the most powerful devil fruits of all. In a world, with Giants, Hybrids, Fishman, mink & So many unknown types of people, and among them he's holding the title "THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD"; A walking, living legend. But he is old, sick and injured. Sengoku gives the order to finish him. This is the chance to prove yourself! You and your comrades have stood against unbearable odds before! Together you can surely beat the monster! Together you charge at him. Some of you stab Whitebeard, one fires a bazooka directly into his face. He starts to fall! Then, suddenly he straightens back up. His voice like an angry roaring thunder as he reminds you who he is. He takes one big swing with his giant blade. Doesn't even use his feared devil fruit ability, just the strength of his arm. A gust of wind, a huge shockwave rips your body from the ground. There is dust and rubble everywhere, you can't see anything, you just feel that you have absolutely no control over your body anymore. The dust clears and you realize that you are suddenly hundreds of meters above the ground, falling to certain death.

How frightening that must be.

 No.4801

Can anyone link/post a good quality version of Jango's Dance Carnival? I've seen it in AMVs and remember it from way back when but I haven't been able to find a good quality version of it online.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Jango%27s_Dance_Carnival

 No.5087

I remember when some kiwifarms poster said that "Oh hey this youtuber is pushing his liberal/socialist agenda even though the world government is ACTUALLY socialist, I love his fucking irony, I am now super smug"

 No.5090

>>5087
Is this relevant to the One Piece World Government or real life? Given that it's Kiwifarms I think the latter. And what youtuber? Were THEY talking about One Piece?

 No.5451

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/mothers-basement-geoff-thew.49008/page-83
>>5090
I think the dude said that the world government is communist or something.

 No.5478

>>5451
Horee fuck, dats some vack shit!

Honestly every time I see Kiwifarms post about anything tangentially related to leftism, they have huge circlejerks about how evul communism is. It's /pol/ 2.0

 No.7754

Ok for real though…has One piece always been trash? Has it only declined somewhere around the timeskip or has it been a great story throughout all his time?

 No.7759

>>7754
Honestly, whenever a series drags out for that long it's going to be trash.

 No.7802

>>7754
The more it goes on,the more you notice the lows of it,and the more opportunities for Oda to fuck up,so on average,it became worse.
DO NOT watch the anime tho,I don't care that the music and the voice acting is good,the pacing is so bad it makes you wonder why you're even bothering.

 No.7848

>>7802
yeah, this, also there are so many jokes you can do with the same 1-dimensional archetypical characters – nowadays it's just a pirate-themed Groundhog Day

btw I'm anime-only but I just jump 10-60sec, sometimes finishing an episode in a couple of minutes

 No.8727

>>7754
Trash in what sense?
One Piece is about wild moments, weird powers and creatures and corny shit about friendship and determination. And I think it's pretty funny.
It's never been good at pacing, or subtlety, or nuance, or maturity, or whatever else you expect from stuff that doesn't get labeled "trash". And it's very formulaic. Like another anon said, this stuff gets more noticeable and frequent the more it goes on, but it's always been there.
Point being, even at its best fighting shonen will only ever be cotton candy and it's never "well written", but as for whether it's actually gotten *worse*, I don't think so at all. I actually find Dressrosa easier to binge read than something like Skypiea because at least it feels like things are always moving somehow.
But if you wanna judge it entirely within its genre, there's probably a reason (beyond mere nostalgia) I still read One Piece but can't handle stuff like MHA or AoT or even Naruto. And honestly, I think it's that Oda just embraces how trashy it is. It's always very cartoonish and even the more "serious" moments tend to have some humor or ridiculousness to them.
And I make this point because I think it's easy to scoff at shonenfags who cream their pants over every minutely "hype" moment achieved by violating good taste and common sense, but One Piece seems different because it is very much aware of what it is without descending into outright cynical parody. This is one of the things the first Dragon Ball actually got right, so it's a big plus.
So it's trash, yes, in the best way, which still might not be enough for some people. That's fine.
And yes, I just wrote a whole reply to a post that's forty days old and I'm not even gonna bump the thread. Fuck you.

 No.9121

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This has probably been discussed or thought of before but the Hana Hana no Me has enormous sexual potential especially because of how it works.
>User retains all senses and feedback from any part it grows, but even a fatal injury on a produced body-part is not reflected onto the user, merely felt as pain.
>This means pleasure can be felt as well
>User can literally create dozens of cloned butts or even just pussies on nearly every surface, enjoying the sex from each without necessarily having to sully their own body.
Seriously
1 - Create as many pussy copies as possible
2 - attach to any surface and sell as a temporary live onahole
3 - have pussy (indirectly) fucked/stimulated by 100-1000 people simultaneously
4 - have most epic orgasm to ever orgasm.
5 - ???
6 - Profit (and pleasure)!

Combine this with the Ope Ope fruits ability to add on fully functioning body parts to a person and a user can do the same with penises or any other body part (ex. tails).

 No.9122

>>4801
It comes with the Toy Island (movie 2 or 3 I think)
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHkE4Ik5BSY

 No.9124

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>>9121
Unfortunately the only doujins that even remotely cover this potential are futa content, I don't know if any fanfics cover this.
>1) (C92) [Arsenothelus (Chinbotsu, Rebis)] Midare Saki Joshuu Kaizoku Soushuuhen | Bloom, Pirate Hooker! Bloom! Annual (One Piece) [English] (C92) [アルセノテリス (沈没、Rebis)] 乱れ咲き女囚海賊総集編 (ワンピース) [英訳]
Nico Robin and Nami use the Hana Hana no mi to fuck (and later combine) and impregnate Princess Shirahoshi. Pic 1

>2) [Kouzu Shoukai (CAW=ZOO)] Futanari Robin VS Onna Kyojin Kaihei (One Piece) [English] [q91] [Digital] [高津娼会 (CAW=ZOO)] フタナリロビンVS女巨人海兵 (ワンピース) [英訳] [DL版]

Nico Robin traps that female Giantess from the Marines and uses dick-inception while restraining and fucking her. Pic 2

 No.9125

>>7754
I partially agree with >>8727 so I'll summarize that Pre and Post Timeskip are sort of like 2 very different series, similar to how Naruto and Shippuden took differing directions. However it is largely true that Post TS is worse in many regards than Pre TS because it flanderizes the small issues that the Pre-TS story had and makes it boring. The anime has become worse than the manga in most regards, with DBZ tier pauses and discount supersaiyan fights, so compared to the more grounded yet silly adventure story that initially began, it's lost it's tempo.

 No.9261

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 No.9282

>Everyone: One Piece has been going so long it's gonna go forever
>Golgo 13: Am I a joke to you?
https://archive.ph/g19Ej

 No.9284

They are just looking for treasure
None of the main characters care about leftist shit

 No.9285

>>9284
>just looking for treasure
You haven't been keeping up with the story for a long time I think.

 No.9311

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>>9282
>implying

 No.9325

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Orochi is developing the productive forces via primitive accumulation, industrializing a previously feudal country and proletarizing peasants and manufacturing workers. All of this under a dependent-capitalist, imperialist-stage framework (Kaidou holds a monopoly over Wano and controls its trade).

Then we have a subsequent socialist and anti-imperialist revolution, led by Luffy, Yamato and the Scabbards, who are a vanguard party (centralist in thought and leading in action) following Joyboyism-Rogerism Oden Thought.

picrel

 No.9326

>>9325
The Strawhats are a shining ray of proletarian internationalism, working with various peoples for their own National Liberation purposes, all for the goal of achieving world socialist revolution against the bourgeois World Government.

 No.9327

>>9325
Fucking this was my thought when I saw the chapter

 No.9338

>>9311
what is this anime?

has this been going on longer than shin-chan, maruko-chan or kochikame?

 No.9426

>>9338
It has been going on every week since the 60s

 No.9435

>>9426
i often wonder about these long running shows
how do they try to not repeat story lines

do they have an archive or some historian of their show to check up with?

 No.9436

>>9435
With The Simpsons they just started making every other episode a celebrity guest appearance.

 No.9440

>>9435
I have no idea, cant find anything online, probably would help you to know japanese since its not that popular abroad.

 No.9571

Can anyone explain why Alabasta, Thriller Bark, Saobody and Marineford felt like such dynamic final battles/wars while the Post TS conflicts, like WCI and Wano feel like a fucking slog… there's literally too much going on at the same time is an explanation, but only partially.

 No.9709

>>1732
>leftist
<repeated arcs since Alabasta about "good kings"
I enjoy One Piece and its fantasy, but lets not pretend that leftism is a occasional flavor of the series, not a major part of it.

 No.9996

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>>9121
>>9124
Nami'd kill for a money making scheme like that - it's in her style, using temporary living ona-holes essentially to make money (and get pleasure) from places they stop at, while remaining squeaky clean herself.
Also on a less sexual note, the Strawhats could make a lot of money (and infamy) by selling clones of Nico Robin, to marines for bounties (in disguise) and then having them go *poof* leaving the marines having nothing.

I also got an idea about Robin making a clone that goes rogue and becomes a nymphomaniac, with the original one feeling everything that happens with the clone and having to hunt it down, before it messes everything up.

 No.10024

Anyone remember manga related? https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Jump_Super_Stars_(One-Shot)
This kinda thing should have been made more often

 No.10062

Anyone read the Alabasta chapter redraw? Looks pretty sick to me
https://archive.md/NwbvM

 No.10268

>5 island aesthetics/adventures for One Piece
https://archive.ph/8kZGn
The Wild West Aspect is kinda covered by Monsters, but that's more in relation to a spinoff series than Luffy and Co.
The skyscraper aesthetic is covered by the GOLD film.

 No.10435

>>9571
Probably because you're reading them weekly now.

 No.10436

>>10435
Actually the schedule for One Piece is bi-weekly, and besides rereading them side by side they new stuff still doesn't hold up.

 No.10448

uhh OPbros what did he mean by this??

 No.10449

>>10448
>N-
<what word?
Nostrils of course!

 No.10461

Shame it's such a lackluster series.

 No.10467

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>>10461
It really is. The adventures and genuinely heartfelt moments at the start got smushed even through there are plenty of adventures to be had a la >>10268 and https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Episode_Special_4#Site_Navigation

 No.10652

>>9282
>Golgo-13's creator died last week
RIP https://archive.ph/1iHKh

 No.10670

Embedding error.
RIP to the thousands of OP fans who died before ever getting to see Gol D. Roger fight.

 No.10811

>>10810
Based, HxH fans love to harass the active shonen series 'cause they're so salty.

 No.10813

>>8727
>I actually find Dressrosa easier to binge read than something like Skypiea because at least it feels like things are always moving somehow.
I can't agree on that TBH, Dressrosa and moreover Cake Island drags on so much I dropped it, and frankly you're trash talking OP a bit too much to be trying to play it positively

 No.10814

>>10812
Dragon Ball Super fans are contenders (mostly due to the sheer autism of the fanbase on /a/) >>>/anime/10601 ass an example pic

 No.10817

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>>2059
>>2058
>>2053
>Yamato's Intro Box says she is the DAUGHTER of Kaido
>Openly admits she's merely LARPing as Oden
<tvitter libs and the LGBT community: Hmmm, this means he's trans! Finally we have representation (NO, FUCK YOU, KIKU AND THE NEWKAMA DON'T COUNT SHUT UUUP!)
I'm really not liking this idea that Kaido was such a horrible motherfucker that he beat his daughter and made her and his underlings refer to herself as his 'son', since that means Yamato later latching onto the Oden LARPing can be directly blamed on Kaido himself for mindbreaking his daughter into referring to herself as a boy, since he wanted a son. Then again, judging by the fact that Kaido is so petty that he locked an 8 year old Yamato in a cave with 3 samurai for Oden LARPing, when he could have easily talked her down suggests that Kaido really would do something that fucked up for his own pride.

I find it both hilarious and sad that some people try to make this into a "Yamato is trans" argument and it's kinda dumb as fuck. This is despite her reasons for calling herself a man (A: Kaido refusing to acknowledge a female and so coping by calling her a son and B: her childish idea to become Oden) directly hurts the transhumanists own cause since it just seems mentally ill and abusive/trauma-based. I get wanting representation, but this is actually silly, and frankly there is much better representation in the series (the Okama like Bon Clay, Kiku and Emporio Ivankov).
The reactions to Yamato's male declaration (and Oden LARP) is that Momo is confused as fuck and Luffy is too, but they just roll with it, since it's a minor matter and that's probably the best part of this entire debacle.

>Kiku comparison

Yamato wanting to be Oden is not the same as Kiku wanting to be a woman - it's about presentation, not actual reality; she directly says her reasoning is
>if Oden is a man, then I'll be a man too
This suggests her wanting to be a man is completely dependent on Oden and not how she sees herself. Yamato calling her self 'son of Kaido' is something Kaido forced on her even before she met Oden. That she put herself as 'son of Kaido' in context of the samurai hating her due to her dad suggests that even before Yamato decided to 'become a man, like Oden', she was already being raised not to act like a girl, by her dad. That would definitely explain why Kaido calls her his son, when he hates her Oden-LARPing guts. The only question is why Kaido does this; it's not humoring her, since he's instructed his underlings to do the same. I have no doubt Kaido's reasons has nothing to do with him respecting her 'wanting to be a man like Oden' and everything to do with his complete and utter absolute disdain for the fact that he had a daughter instead of a son.
https://archive.ph/w1WPH#Gender

Also it seems that Oda just got inspired by another media (as usual) in this case Rose of Versailles
>Yamato seems to be inspired by Oscar François de Jarjayes, from the shōjo manga The Rose of Versailles, who is a woman raised by her father as if she were a boy in order to succeed him as the commander of the Royal Guard at the Palace of Versailles.
>Additionally, in the Chapter 945 author's comment, Oda talks about reading The Rose of Versailles for the first time and being surprised to find out Oscar was a woman.

 No.10818

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>>10817
Also as an aside, translators can and are biased, example being pic 1, translating an interview of the VA for Yamato and using male pronouns, despite actual translation using female pronouns. Pic 2 is the original.

> You were chosen to play the role of Yamato, who is popular all over the world, but what is your impression of Yamato?

< "I think Yamato's charm lies in the fact that she single-mindedly believes in her feelings so much that she calls herself Kozuki Oden or says "I will become". For Yamato, gender and blood relations are secondary, and the most important thing is what Oden, whom she admires, was like. That's why she refers to herself as Kaido's "son" and why she aims to open up the country even if it means attacking her immediate family member, Kaido. I feel that the impulse of her childhood, when she witnessed Oden's way of life and read the "Oden Adventure", are what keep Yamato alive."

Here's the Japanese text in case anyone wants to check it.

> 世界中から人気を集めるヤマトの役に抜擢されましたが、ヤマトにはどのような印象がありますか?

< 自ら光月おでんを名乗り「なる」と言いきるくらい、自分の気持ちを信じている直向きさが魅力たど思います。ヤマトにとって性別や血縁は二の次で、一番大切なのは憧れのおでんがどうであったか。だからこそカイドウの”息子”と表現したり肉親のカイドウを討ってまで開国を目指したりする。おでんの生き様を目の当たりにし、「おでん漫遊記」をよんだ幼少期の衝動が、ヤマトを生かしているのではないかなと感じています。

Also an alternate translation attempt
> You were chosen to play the role of Yamato who is an extremely popular character all over the world, so what is your impression of Yamato?
< Hayami: I believe her charm comes from her so earnestly believing her own feelings which results in her proclaiming herself to "be" Kozuki Oden. You see, for Yamato her gender and her blood relations are secondary. What's most important is her admiration for Oden and the man he was. That is the reason why she calls herself Kaido's "son" and why she want to open Wano to the world by defeating her own father Kaido. I believe by reading "Oden's Voyage Log" and becoming witness to his way of life gave Yamato this urge in her early childhood. I feel that this must be what kept her alive.

 No.10819

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Just realized that Shinobu's power is just like Jewelry Bonney except it only matures things (according to her). Bonney lass can only affect living things from what is seen, but shinobu can affect both inanimate and living things (soil and Momo). Also young shinobu is qt and somewhat distinct from all the Nami clones that plague the Post-TS series (though most of the Wano arc has had that thankfully). Bonney needs to make her young again.

 No.10824

>>10822
Yeah that's what I said, Shinobu is only limited to maturing things as opposed to going back and forth as Bonnie does.

Also Bonnie is probably much older than she seems, and apparently has connections to Kuma, I wonder about her true role in the story.

 No.10839

>>10818
Where are the female pronouns in the original text?

 No.10840

>>10814
>>10824
>>10811
>mods deleted Luffy Poster's content
<Literally the OP of the thread
<They don't post anything that bad outside of edgy funposting in /siberia/
FFS Mods

>>10839
I can't remember at the moment and it's too late for me to start checking over. I provided the text in Japanese, please check yourself if you are invested in the argument

 No.10843

>>10840
>please check yourself
Well, at least in the part you posted, there are only netural pronouns, if any.

 No.10844

>>10843
>neutral
Maybe, I'm not sure, these translations aren't mine, though I tried to check them for accuracy before posting. That said I think that it may be a case of something like "san" that is technically neutral but reads as female or male depending on the use (see the part about Yamato and compare to the part about Oden's way of life.

But again it's late and I'm tired so I may be mistaken in the translation.

 No.10887

>>1743
I miss this uygha like you wouldn’t believe

 No.11037

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Someone explain how this guy survived pic related, got on one of Big Mom's tart boats and sailed all the way to Dressrosa and reunited with his daughters?

 No.11038

>>10887
But why?

 No.11077

what ever happened to sogeking

 No.11083

>>11077
Dead meme and forgotten plot-point I suppose.

 No.11111

>>9571
Bloated cast and bloat in general. WCI and Wano both have multiple intersecting plotlines that all are somewhat important combined with multiple chars having a fight, even if stuff is offscreened there's a shitton. Also more and more information comes with each arc, ffs last chapter or whatever introduced some new info dealing with king. Katakuri fight was awesome tho and I wish the luffy and kaido fight was on the same level but it keeps getting sidetracked or some other shit.
oh and almost (not really but still) back to back arcs, dressrosa then wano were/are the longest arcs in the manga and show, rosa took over a year and had boring content (tonttas) and slogs (tournament, birdcage) and wano has been going on since 2018, and before wano wci was 70+ chapters.
>>1732
what's everybody's thoughts on the current state of OP?

 No.11112

>>11111
>what's everybody's thoughts on the current state of OP?
Idk really. Like many I used to really "obsess" over OP in form of theorizing all kinds stuff. I really immersed myself in the world. I couldn't wait to see how all this worldbuilding an lore was coming alltogether and I loved the characters their personalities and even the powersystem although there were better animes concerning that.

WCI was somewhat of a slog, but I still kept invested you knnow? Reading every new chapter like a fucking looser, but the hype for wano was unreal and I just accepted the wait.
Reverie was what slowly finnished it for me though. The arc was too good. We saw Imu and got a lot of information that I personally was speculating about for years.

But inside a few chapters of Wano I lost interest. By that point I couldn't stand the strawhats and the annyoing tropes surrounding most of them. The storytelling has become stale and I couldn't bother to wait evey third week for oda to sit out another week. So I just kinda stopped reading and watching.

Now its been 3 years and I still haven't picked it up again and I think I never will again. If you step back from OP and look at it objectively you see that beside all the praise for Oda as a genius and his near perfect story, this manga has a lot of flaws. The main cast has devolved into mostly tropes after the timeskip, the powersystem is incosisten etc.. A part of me thinks that maybe Oda doesn't care anymore and wants to milk it before finally finishing it.

I still look into it from time to time, just so I can see the big moments like Roger and Whitebeard fighting and all the plot points resolving and sometimes I watch a youtube video by some nerd trying to "analyse" fucking usopp as he is some sort of analogy for a deeper philosophical issue lol. Reminds me of the nerd I was back then. Probably watch the ending too when it arrives just to see what the one piece was all about

Sorry for rambling, but I just find it interesting, how I have lost almost all interest for series I used to obsess over

 No.11115

>>11111
Check'd
>what's everybody's thoughts on the current state of OP?
As you said, bloated; it's suffering from DBZ type power creep. The flashbacks defining Roger and Whitebeard demonstrate their strength at the prime of their lives but shit is just getting too ridiculous in many characters.
DressRosa, if you skipped a lot of time-wasting bullshit, is fun and the tournament is something that had been new to the story. The manga is better in that regard at least.

 No.11408

>>11115
>>11115
>As you said, bloated; it's suffering from DBZ type power creep.

It really isn't.

 No.11409

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>>11408
>spaced reply
>contrarianism
You're too obvious gay-poster, go back to /siberia/

 No.11410

>>10887
Because Kuro looks and acts like Stirner.

 No.11846

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Anybody who doesn't like one piece and/or doesn't think it's leftist is reactionary and probably either likes pedophile series like lucky star or shit manga like HxH

 No.11850

>>11846
Kek, that's a hook alright

 No.11863


They remade the fist opening. Pretty dope ngl

 No.11871

>>11863
Yeah it's a nice homage, but can't beat the original IMO

 No.12149

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Did you know that anyone who actively hates on One Piece is a Hiatusfag aka a HxH fan? They are jealous that their manga is on hiatus and that its overall shit so they actively hate on it.

 No.12150

>>12149
Thanks for the PSA luffy

 No.12156

>>12149
No I am a DB fan
DB is more leftist

 No.12159

>>12156
Dragonball is apolitical

 No.13710

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he's here

 No.13715

>>13710
>Luffy is Joyboy
This honestly better be executed right, because it feels like total bullshit.

 No.13722

>>13715
If you look back far enough it was obvious as hell this was going to happen. I trust in Oda to pull it off correctly.

 No.13723

>>13722
>If you look back far enough it was obvious as hell
Joyboy only appeared and got referenced concretely since Fishman Island. Oda retroactively looks back and tries to tie things back to older stuff. It's not bad but it starts to stretch thin at times. I can only hope it doesn't do some kind of "le sleeping REAL personality" was the true hero all along. I hope it's just a kind of "Title" thing.

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>>13723
>>13722
>>13715
>>13710
>Gear 5th
>Retroactively changing the Paramecia Gomu Gomu into a Mythical Zoan and adding to the rubber powers the revival powers of the Yomi Yomi no Mi but for a GOD…
>Awakened Devil Fruit
*Sigh*

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uh oh stinky

 No.14003

>>13723
Joyboy isn't a title, but Nika is

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Cam's new arc?

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What do you think about this? some theory says they're purposely inspired by historical figures associated with "freedom"

btw
>Russian activist Karl Marx (2nd pic)
lmao

 No.14127

>>14126
Some of these hold water (the Gandhi one and Taisuke one for example) but others seem like a stretch.

 No.14128

>>14126
>pic-2
<Russian activist Karl Marx
LMAO

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wtf am i looking at here?

paneling and drawings are a big problem with this series

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>>14387
Oda used to make some action scenes with great flow, but nowdays it all looks messy and confusing. These last few chapters in particular have been awful, hopefully the Wano arc will end soon.

Pic related as an example of an excelent page spread somewhat recently (chap. 821)

 No.14582

>>1732
That scene is perfect in the adaptation.

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The death of a process is the birth of another

 No.14748

Pirate media is kind of inherently libertarian. The popular mythos tends toward being lolbert, because it's about the dream of discovering personal wealth by ripping people off and being captain of a ship where you boss people around. The reality of piracy was much more left-libertarian, which does come across in some shows, where there's an explicit antagonism between colonial empires and the pirates, some of whom pointedly are deserters from the navy (who may have been press-ganged into service in the first place). Idk about One Piece but a shounen would probably lean to the left side of that spectrum given the typical themes of friendship and all that stuff which conflicts with the lolbert shit about being a cutthroat out for treasure and willing to kill any of your comrades at a moment's notice.

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 No.15000

>>9121
>>9996
>a user can do the same with penises or any other body part
Oda confirms this with pic rel's Areola Fleur

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Just a thought that occurred to me but have we seen half-fishman hybrids in series? There's the half-mermaid daughter of Big Mom, Charlotte Praline (who is just a mermaid, no hybrid features seen) and the GIant-fishman hybrids (that are just big fishmen TBH). The only human-fshman hybrid is Dellinger and it's almost unnoticeable in both.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Wotans
https://archive.ph/gDC2n

It'd be interesting a concept because of the existing taboo of human-fishman blood transfusions, so the thought of human-fishman children is interesting as would be Nami's reaction to such a thing for example. Hell, given the Fishman's similarity to real life enslavement of Africans (For example all of them have colored skin, have imposing strength and many have plump lips similar to slightly caricaturesque portrayals of Black people), the concept of such a hybrid ought to be very controversial in general, as kind of a reactionary response ought to be garnered a similar to /pol/s anger about interracial. An entire mini-arc could be made focusing on Nami and such a hybrid and her demonstrating her moving on from Arlong and her acceptance of Fishmen after Fishman Island and Hacchan, that'd have her defend such a child's "blasphemous" existence. OR thought kinda unfitting of the story tone, Nami herself hooking up with a Fishman at the End of Series.
This is all unlikely given that the plot is clearly way past that at this point, but it's an interesting thought.

As a side note I find it interesting that
Anyway just a rambling thought, thanks for coming to this TED talk.

 No.15101

So the gummu gummu fruit is bullshit and Luffy ate the kami kami fruit or some shit?

 No.15102

>>15101
Yeah pretty much, shitty retcon IMO.

 No.15105

>>15102
what the fuck

 No.15114

>>15105
Oda is running out of ideas and is just DBZing it. It's kind of like the end of Naruto Shippuden except in Shippuden it at least made some thematic sense and was literally EOS, and One Piece is still going to go on for at least a couple hundred chapters more.

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just heard one piece is ending

anybody have canon armpit shots of this white hair devil woman from the manga and anime?

 No.15582

>>15570
>one piece is ending
don't lie

 No.15597

>>15570
it's closer to the end than the start,but you can still expect at least 2-3 more years.

 No.16328

Theory: What if the one piece is the stand arrow from JoJo and Luffy acquires the world?

Think about it, he's really fast, and he has already faced the same type of fruit as gomo gomo nome

 No.16715

Saw One Piece: Red
If this is included as canon material it's a major fucking retcon, even more so than the goddamn previous movie. Even that aside, it's just kinda boring, like a really long, flash-back filled filler. Bored me to shit and the 'fights' are just inane.

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>>10819
>Chapter 1056
<Admiral Green Thumb gives Shinobu the Big Succ
<She becomes a bouncy girl again
I fucking predicted this, Oda isn't going to do a flashback like that and not have her return to her good looks.

 No.16717

>>1737
>Oda has communist sympathies because he's got che guevara hanging up in his office
<Che_Shirt.jpg
Literal Che LARP is not communist or necessarily communist-sympathy

 No.16718

>>1745
Just like Stirner lol

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>>1755
>>1756
>>1753
>The Che reference is dedicated to a murderer, rapist slaver and criminal
Doesn't sound very pro-Communist.

>>1776
>Kiku
more like Keku lol

 No.16738

>>16716
what good is a woman if she's not good looking after all

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Been watching the animu now and then because I keep seeing this shit everywhere. The story and characters are good, but the low quality of the animation is getting very annoying. Just finished Arlong Park and it felt like half the runtime of the arc was padding (showing things from previous episodes) and it disrupted the story a lot. Should I switch to reading the mango instead?

 No.16740

>>16738
Kek

>>16739
Look up the episodes and just skip the ones that are padding. The animation is kinda bad but its from the early 2000s so the quaint aspects are something I like personally, it might not be to your taste. The anime peaks in the Grand-Line arcs (Little Garden, Drum Island, Alabasta, Skypeia, Marine8 etc) After the Time-skip I suggest only watching past the Fishman island arc, and just looking at youtube clips for certain manga scenes in the anime, because the overall episodes drag on like balls through glass and the animation becomes even shittier than back in the beginning of the anime. So read the manga too, and the anime as additional content.

As for the movies I suggest:
- Dead End Adventure
- Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island
- The Cursed Holy Sword
- The Giant Mechanical Soldier of Karakuri Castle
- One Piece Film Z
- One Piece Film Gold
- Strong World
- Clockwork Island Adventure
- One Piece: The Movie
- Defeat Him! The Pirate Ganzack
These are all either fun or interesting, though The Secret Island is kinda fucked up. Try to follow chronological order for them though or you'll spoil some of the canon for yourself
Don't bother with Film Red or Stampede, they're garbage.

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Killing kings is bad, mmkay?

 No.16854

Merge this thread into the one piece thread Y/N?

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>>16806
Oda realized he can't promote killing the monarchy for their crimes if he already has monarchs that are "good" in the story, mostly because he's trying to avoid a conflict of interests among aligned characters such as Luffy, Sabo and Dragon. Thus it's going to be a misunderstanding or "sacrifice" in the story. Oda is honestly tired of One Piece (thus Film Red being so off key compared to the rest of the series) and has basically placed himself into a narrative hole, thus the rush to end the series. I predict they'll probably stretch it out for a couple more years ending in a climactic battle and the finding of the One Piece and Luffy becoming Pirate King. He'll probably even reject the treasure if only because 'it'll limit his freedom' or something like that.

 No.18352

I want to start watching one piece, how do I even begin?

 No.18355

>>18352
From the beginning? It's not like Gundam's chronological mess, it's just really long.

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>>10824
>apparently has connections to Kuma, I wonder about her true role in the story.
That got finally resolved about a year later Lol

 No.18359

>>18355
Oh i thought theire were too many spinn offs and stuff

 No.18552

>>18352
Just read it or watch it. The manga is pretty slow for ~50 chapters, and the anime grinds to a snail's pace halfway through. Pacing is awful all around. It's 100% worth pushing through though.

If you wanna watch the anime, I'd recommend One Pace, it's a fan made condensed version which cuts anything unnecessary out and is like twice as fast. https://onepace.net/watch

If you wanna read it, the digital colored manga is really nice: https://ww9.readonepiece.com/manga/one-piece-digital-colored-comics/

The movies/anything besides canon are usually completely skippable but some of them are pretty good. Don't skip any arcs or anything, not even Skypiea.

I hope you love One Piece, comrade.

 No.18553

>>18552
just realized he posted that like a month ago lol hope it helps someone still

 No.19216

It hhas a nice leftist vibe without being explicitly so.

The straw hats are Anarchist terrorists in the most based way. Fuck the state

 No.19217

>>18553
Yeah that was me, thanks. Just started watching it. They are now saving robin.

I love it. It has everything's might switch to one pace when it gets too slow, on the other hand I never have to worry about what to watch again lol

 No.19218

>>16863
>>16806
Oda needs "good kings" and even "good dynasties" in order for the Poneglyph plot device to work. If you want to have a whole culture devoted to protecting something they don't understand, you can't give them any motivation other than cultural heritage and muh ancestors told me to. And you need to maintain continuity for maybe centuries, so you gotta have somebody with the power to keep focused on the given task.

Ironically this clashes directly with the central theme of "follow your dreams," but it's glossed over because it seems like people in cultures with this task don't have enough rebellious spirit in them to move beyond the past. It even rubs off on people tangentially related like Noland's descendants who instead of seeking vindication for their ancestors could have just moved on.

It's a weird internal tension that confuses the story when it could make it more interesting. Just present the setup in a more ambiguous light or offer criticism of it. Or alternatively have a secret society that does understand the purpose of the task who is handling these things. But I'm not that far into the series so maybe there's a reason why this is how Oda wrote it.

 No.19240

this post has been around for around 10% of one piece's existence.

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I gave ChatGPT some prompts

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>>19218
>Oda needs "good kings" and even "good dynasties" in order for the Poneglyph plot device to work
Chapter 1085 basically confirms this almost verbatim

 No.19481

>>19480
"Monarchy is totally cool, trust me, bruh."

This sounds like conservative Nietzsche fans with whom Emma Goldman used to argue with.

 No.19493

>>19481
Anarchist-Monarchist-Socialism Gang!

Seriously though, I think Oda originally intended a full out communist Revolutionary type deal but realized that that would mean deposing all those good rulers, so he made this half-ass change.

 No.19500

>>19493
>Seriously though, I think Oda originally intended a full out communist Revolutionary type deal but realized that that would mean deposing all those good rulers, so he made this half-ass change
And I suspect it was due to the target audience. The Japs are traditionalist AF and every revolutionary movement is fucking dead here. For them skipping school is a great offense and Heckleberry Finn is a threat to society. Cringe boomer reactionary imperialist values.

 No.19502

>>19500
Yeah, The Japanese have literally autistic standards for life. Anime depictions of Japanese normal lives are an absolute fucking lie.

 No.19503

>>19500
I'm not Japanophobic or anything, It's just that the indoctrination in Japanese culture is stronger so any revolutionary thought is suppressed while in the US and EU it is co-opted by idpol, electoralism and other cringe.

 No.19504

>>19502
>Anime depictions of Japanese normal lives are an absolute fucking lie
Anime depictions of Japanese life are often limited to school. When they're not they are gritty and dystopian… which is BASED???

Otherwise, the life of the Japanese isn't depicted at all. Which is most of the anime.

 No.19505

>>19503
Absolutely true.

>>19504
Anime has a lot of scenes at work or at the home that people miss because its background to the main plots going on. They're depicted as mostly idyllic. The gritty dystopian stuff is kinda AU as hell though so that you can't associate it with IRL Japan.

 No.19510

>>19505
>They're depicted as mostly idyllic
I don't know about that one, chief. Kobayashi's desk job seems to be pretty boring to her, the only fun she has here is talking to co-workers. Which is pretty much true IRL.

 No.19515

>>1736
>egotistical

<What then does on my behalf mean? Here people immediately think of filthy profit. But the one who acts from love of filthy profit indeed does it on his own behalf, since in any case there is nothing that one does not do for his own sake, among other things, everything done for the glory of God; but because he seeks profit, he is a slave of profit, not beyond profit; he is one who belongs to profit, to the moneybag, not to himself; he is not his own. Doesn’t a person whom the passion of greed rules follow this master’s orders, and if one time a weak good-naturedness creeps over him, doesn’t this appear as an exceptional case of precisely the same sort as when devout believers are sometimes abandoned by their Lord’s guidance and beguiled by the wiles of the “devil?” So a greedy person is not a self-owned person, but a slave, and he can do nothing for his own sake, without at the same time doing it for his master’s sake—precisely like the God-fearing person.

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Alright Lads. How pissed would you guys be if Oda ended the series by having the One Piece be
A) A One Piece Swimsuit
B) The Greatests Treasure being the Friends you met along the way
C) Luffy finding the treasure and laughing while the rest of the crew face faults and we never get to see it

 No.19784

>>19504
>When they're not they are gritty and dystopian… which is BASED???
i don't think it's the case in anime, it's mostly described as extremely boring and unfulfilling or good in the case of college students and young adults
i think japanese work culture is very overexaggerated in the media, it's just as bad as the western countries, but it's not hell. i feel like it's yet another way to distract workers from their own plight of working 12 hours a day because
>look, yellow man has it worse! go back to the cagie

 No.19785

>>19784
>look, yellow man has it worse! go back to the cagie
Anime is targeted at the Japanese audience, if anything it should encourage the Japs to revolt. The problem is, gritty and dystopian anime isn't popular, there's a heavy trend towards wish fullfillment and escapism. Hence the popularity of the slice-of-life anime. And the only gritty anime that still gathers hype is NGE. But it has nothing to do with the daily life, even Serial Experiments Lain is better than it in that regard. What do we have? Giant robots. Schoolboy's problems. Daddy issues.

If anything, dystopias should be doubled down upon, there's not enough worldbuilding, it's just a backdrop. The point isn't to depict the present day, cyberpunk stories try not to depict the present day but to send a message.

 No.19786

>>19698
on a scale of 0-10 angry, with 10 being the highest
A) 0/10
B) 8/10
C) 5/10

 No.19805

>>19785
i think nge can be an analogy for most people's lives. work breaks mental health the same way that piloting a robot does, and you can see people offering each other the same impotent encouragement that was sometimes offered to shinji and co

 No.19806

>>19805
>i think nge can be an analogy for most people's lives
I hate analogies. You have to already be a socialist to make that connection. The cast has mental issues because the author has mental issues, simple as that. Albeit comparing piloting robots to having a job is interesting, even if it doesn't fully work since it's more of a child labor, it's not even paid. Now, if you compared piloting robots to child labor that would have more ground, even though, again, the series doesn't focus on this fact enough as far as I know (and I haven't watched the show so take it with the grain of salt).

 No.19807

>>19806 (cont.)
And again, the cast having mental issues is not because of piloting a robot but because they were already like that before since they all have issues with their families, social skills, alcoholism, etc. When it comes to anything bringing them mental issues it's actually the horrors of war (which is a nice anti-militarist message to all those warmongering reactionaries in Japan).

 No.19809

>>19807 (cont.)
In short, the anime points at the cast's issues and paints them as problems with upbringing rather than any outside influence, even if it shows some anti-militarist undertones by having the cast undertake suffering and making them absolutely terrified of fighting (Shinji and Asuka are too shell-shocked to even get into the mechas).

 No.19810

>>19806
>>19807
>>19809
Okay, I'm starting to overanalyze the show I've never watched myself. I agree that it has some leftist themes but they are child labor and anti-militarism instead of being an analogy to wage slavery.

 No.19841

>>19806
>You have to already be a socialist to make that connection
No, not really, don't be an ideologue. You can understand human psychologies and text-text or text-life analogies without being a communist, because you don't need to be of an ideology to have critical thinking, to be able to reflect on things and to be able to empathize.

 No.19859

>>19810
no, i watched it even before becoming a leftist and thought that piloting robots was an analogy for school and work, and the hundreds of thousands of otaku who watched it got the same feeling. it's obviously anti-military, but nge's massive popularity is partially built by the way the show makes it easy to connect a lot of social pressures (for most people school/work) to piloting the robot, even down to the justifications for doing it (for society, for your family, for recognition etc)
it would never reach the level of popularity it has if it didn't include an element present in a lot of people's lives. i agree that child labour and anti-militarism are significant themes of the show, but the anti-work, anti-school sentiment, the way these institutions crush mental health and throw away their subjects is pretty obvious, especially when you consider that eva came out in the 90s

 No.19863

>>19841
>don't be an ideologue
Funny because I was pointing out that you have ideological bias and yet I am the one who is an ideologue. By this point this smear is as meaningless as Marx's use of the word "idealist."
>you don't need to be of an ideology to have critical thinking, to be able to reflect on things
Duh. Doesn't mean that certain themes you think are presented were the intent or the primary focus or that others will think the same. Again, it's not a terribly bad analogy. I just feel that it's not that strong compared to an anti-war theme.
>>19859
>but nge's massive popularity is partially built by the way the show makes it easy to connect a lot of social pressures (for most people school/work)
School maybe. The main character is a teenager, he is forced by his father to do what he doesn't want to do and interact with people he doesn't want to interact with. That's actually a stronger analogy than work. Although one can say that schools are an analogy to work which are an analogy to the prison system. There we go, now both the students, the workers and the prisoners of Alkatras can find NGE relatable, I can play your game pretty well too.

Let's put it this way: there are multiple "layers" of meaning, each progressively more distant from the actual plot (not like there can be an accurate gradation judging by how much of a mess NGE's plot is):
1. PTSD
2. Child labor
3. School
4. Work
5. Prison system

I see the gradation that way. The work analogy is just weaker than the previous three. But in the end I'll just quote Tolkien on this one:

<I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.


>even down to the justifications for doing it (for society, for your family, for recognition etc)

And how does it not apply to war also? That's literally the typical coping soldiers do to justify going to war. If anything, this says more about the war-like nature of the capitalist workplace than about the allegory for the workplace being the intent. Maybe people associate themselves with the characters because they have something in common with the classcucks than some like to admit.

Maybe the proletariat is a kind of soldiers. Doing what the bourgeoisie tell them to, no questions asked. There are no "fake" proletarians, everyone is "just doing their job." It's just so happens that some jobs actively harm the revolutionary project. But that's the problem of the revolutionaries, not the proletariat.

Anyway, I don't really want this argument to go for too long, all of this doesn't really matter, this is an argument over essentially nothing. I hope that I have at least made myself clear.

 No.19864

why are you talking about evangelion in the one piece thread

 No.19865

>>19864
It all started from the discussion of the depiction of the everyday life in anime, then spiraled into the discussion about how dystopian cyberpunk is more relatable than more escapist anime and then spiraled into the discussion about how relatable NGE is to the proletariat since it is the most popular vaguely dystopian anime.

 No.19866

>>19865 (cont.)
This entire convo is just like one big chess game.

 No.19867

>>19863
>I was pointing out that you
Therein is your first mistake, I'm not the same person as the one you were replying to earlier, more than one user posts here lol.
>I just feel that it's not that strong compared to an anti-war theme.
That's true.

 No.19870

>>19867
>Therein is your first mistake, I'm not the same person as the one you were replying to earlier, more than one user posts here lol
Well, I'm aware. It happened with me too, you can't really know, my bad.

Anyway, that doesn't negate the fact that I was accusing the person of being an ideologue rather than being an ideologue myself, unless you think that being critical of ideologues is being an ideologue which implies that you yourself are an ideologue. Ideologueception.

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>>19870
>I was accusing the person of being an ideologue rather than being an ideologue myself, unless you think that being critical of ideologues is being an ideologue which implies that you yourself are an ideologue.
>Ideologueception.
KEK, MY SIDES

 No.19898

Is anyone else hype for the Netflix adaptation?

 No.19899

I actually had to google wheather this is real or just some fanfilm/mock trailer. Holy shit, why? Like do those netflix anime adaptations ever make their money back? I have heard nothing but bad things about Death Not and Cowboy Bebop.

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>>19898
>dark color palette for "mood" and to hide bad CGI
>Luffy doing Marvel quips
>fakest looking part is Nami's hair somehow
>Zoro puts the sword in his mouth BACKWARDS
>Sanji has no curly eyebrows
>Usopp unrecognizable except for the slingshot
>Alvida looks shorter than Luffy

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>>19898
I hope this is an early teaser and they'll pull a Sonic and redo it. Zoro is passable at least but Luffy is just terrible (seriously, Oda himself said that IRL he'd be a Brazilian, and his attitude is loud and confident, there is nothing like that here, it's like Goku from that terrible Dragon Ball Z movie.
>*eyes flicking back and forth nervously "I'm sensing a little bit of tension…"
Fucking what was this line, what was this performance?!

Buggy looks cool although I feel like they're trying to ape off the recent Joker too much.
Usopp's lack of long nose is terrible, he looks like a bad Pirates of the Caribbean cosplayer
Nami looks okayish, not good nor bad.
Sanji looks WAY too manly and has no curly brows.

>"All the greatest fighters call out their finishing moves"

<"No they don't"
These people think they're so meta, fuck. Honestly the screenwriters should have lurked the 4/a/ One Piece threads and gotten a sense of the fanbase and memes, and/or the theatrical productions, Because this ain't it chief.

 No.19902

>>19901
The trailer was released yesterday and the series is set to be released at the end of August. This year.

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>>19901
>Buggy looks cool although I feel like they're trying to ape off the recent Joker too much.
That's mostly just how he looks though. He will probably be the breakout character though, partly because of the existing joker/clown memes.

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>>19902
>>19902
>The trailer was released yesterday
>the series is set to be released at the end of August. This year.
Fuck

>>19903
>mostly just how he looks
Not quite, he looks like a clown, yes, but the netflix trailer really amps up on his psychotic side.

 No.19905

>>19904
The only thing that's really different in the design is the white face and more exaggerated mouth makeup. The rest is a pretty direct translation per the pics. I think it's just being live action that makes him look more crazy.

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>>19898
Oh so ARLONG gets to have a long nose but Usopp doesn't?

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 No.20562

>>20554
They are baiting a lawsuit from Disney with that pirates of the caribbean ass music lol.

It's better than the teaser, almost makes that look like it was bad on purpose. A lot of it looks cosplay-tier but tbh people are spoiled on super high budget movies and shows.

 No.20563

>>20552
wtf is this shit arlong looks badass in 2D this loyal to foil ass looking mfer looks like hes pissed they ran outta malboro reds at the marathon

 No.20564

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>>20563
The other fishmen look better tbh. Arlong got the most complaints out of any part of the trailer. They're obviously informing choices based on things revealed much later in the story (like Roger being visibly sick). They might be trying to leave a different impression with Arlong since the full context with the fishmen and Fisher Tiger is in the background of that now (Oda probably hadn't decided on that and Toei certainly didn't know). He's also at Baratie and Buggy's circus, so he's probably chasing Nami in this version. That would suggest a significant change in characterization.

 No.20583

When will One Piece, it has been what, 15 years already? Just end the fucking manga already!

 No.20595

>>20583
26 years and with the pace it's going I think Oda's going to try to end it roughly around year 30. Shit's starting to ramp up and I can see 3 or 4 more story arcs still happening, 2 of those being Elbaf and Laugh Tale.

 No.20649

>>16863
>>16806
>>19218
>>19493
And don't forget that Japan still has a monarch. An anti-monarchism message would be way too politically incorrect for the best-selling manga of all time, i guess.

 No.20686

Oda still wrote those benevolent monarchs to begin with. One Piece's world isn't real so it's not like having to cope with a status quo that really exists; it's a world he built based on his own personal worldviews. there are so many legit socialist/marxist creators, mostly from the showa era, it's really weird to fixate on Eiichiro Oda of all people. get the original, more politically overt Legend of Kamui manga translated; Shirato was an open marxist.

 No.20687

>>20686
>it's really weird to fixate on Eiichiro Oda of all people
It's because One Piece is popular and can charitably be read as lefty. It is anti-colonial and anti-oppression which is better than most popular media at least.

 No.20694

>>20687
most things that aren't turbo-mainstream american slop are that, like literally the overwhelming majority of anime and manga. dragon ball goes "biodeterminism is bullshit" and the most popular villain is a literal colonizer whose mannerisms are based around landlords

 No.20695

>>19898
Speaking of interpretations of One Piece outside the regular production - the 4Kids rap intro animated

 No.20742

>Gear 5 is more iconic than Super Saiyan
LMAO this is as funny as those retards claiming that Gear 5 Luffy Oneshots Bleach and Narutoverses. I like One Piece, but some of the fans… lol

 No.20744

>>20742
> I like One Piece, but some of the fans… lol
what are you talking about?
gaer 5 luffy solos all verses and is a better story

can we get much higher?
no, because one piece is PEAK fiction

 No.20746

>>20744
Bruh you better be joking lol

 No.20748

>>20746
totally serious and definitely not making fun of the fans

 No.20940

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>>15000
>000
checkem
>>9996
>>9121
>>9124
Apparently someone got the same idea regarding the wall pocket pussies

 No.20965

File: 1692666568804.png (119.97 KB, 320x240, I M A G I N E.png)

How big of a bump in attention will the live action cause compared to Gear 5? Netflix put a lot of money into it and it's presumably going to make the story a lot more accessible (some people just refuse to watch animation for some reason).

>>15000
mfw

 No.20966

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>>20965
>I M A G I N E.png
ehehehe

>How big of a bump in attention will the live action cause compared to Gear 5?

Not as much as it would have 10 years ago. It might get the attention of some older audiences or kids that have more limited youtube access, or bring back older fans that stopped watching a while ago.

 No.20980

>>20554
>original VAs doing the Japanese dub of the live action
This is fucking surreal lol

 No.21007

Oda is a leftist

 No.21008

>>21007
>Che pic = leftist
Also anon were you asleep for 10 years?

 No.21016

>>20980
It's coming out tomorrow.

 No.21020

wtf, the Live Action showrunner went on Hasan's stream (scabbing btw, he's doing promotion as a writer)

 No.21021

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>>21020
>Talking about One Piece (the manga/anime) is not the same as the show. Its not like they are going through promotional material of the actual show.

 No.21028

>>1732
It can be read as such. It almost certainly was not intended to "be leftist" or anything else. Remember that Luffy helps to reinstate a Monarchy.

 No.21029

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>>1776
>Sanji belongs with kiku
>>16720
>more like Keku
Would you a-Kiku anons?

 No.21039

The netflix show is… okay. It's fine. It's not great. It's not terrible. It's got some cringe but it's watchable. Which honestly, given how terrible most anime adaptations are, I guess puts it near the top by default.

 No.21040

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>>21039
Funny how one of the least adaptation-friendly animes can get a decent adaptation, yet much more workable source material doesn't. It's almost like giving a shit and trying affects the end results.

 No.21048

>>21039
I couldn't get through the first episode. It was too cringe.

 No.21075

S-Snake a cute!

Also why is most of the fanart of S-Snake depicting her at normal child-height? She's taller than Luffy FFS.

 No.21166

WTF Luffy is an Authentic Hegelian Master?
Thank you based Goda.

 No.21548

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>>21166
Luffy is a clown

 No.21549

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 No.21550

>>21166
I always thought Luffy was kind of egoistic

 No.21827

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>>18356
And over half a year later we learn the beginnings of why Kuma was so important other than being a former king turned pirate warlord and cyborg.

Also I wonder what devil-fruit Saint Jupiter consumed, some mythical spider zoan? How is Luffy gonna beat that bearded fuck?

 No.21829

>>21548
Finally Luffy has unlocked Gear 6th, Boner Balloon.

 No.22049

The most recent chapter gave us glimpses as to what happened at God's Valley, but it only makes everything even more unclear.

 No.22050

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>>21827
wtf he's a juggalo?

 No.22052

>>22050
Damn, Insane Pirate Posse time?

 No.22055

>>14748
Also, pirate ship is basically a coop, each member of a crew gets a share depending on work he performed and all get a vote in a decision making, though captain does have authority of making tactical decisions by himself.

 No.22057

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>>22052
Insane Clown Pirates

>>22055
The captain was basically just a specialist whose authority was acknowledged for being an expert, not the Head Mother Fucker In Charge as usually portrayed. The quartermaster was closer to that but still not really, more of a manager. Disobeying captain's orders during combat was often punishable by death, but everyone agrees to that in advance because it's critical to have everyone coordinated in high-stakes and fast-moving situations.

 No.22447


 No.22618

File: 1702838197165.png (1.04 MB, 1812x1066, ClipboardImage.png)

They're actually doing One Piece: Brotherhood.

 No.22619

>>22618
You can just watch a recut lmao.

 No.22620

>>22619
>>22618
When this drops they will have:
<Manga
<1999 Toei anime
<Episode of East Blue
<Live Action
<The One Piece anime
<One Pace
all covering East Blue.
There definitely need to be six versions of that.

 No.22622

>>22620
I mean, I can understand why FMAB exists (source material) but THIS? No idea, chief.

 No.22623

>>22622
It's extra funny because both the manga and the original anime are still ongoing.

 No.22624

>>22618
I really hope they stick to the “original” artstyle and designs, not the biggest fan of the more recent visuals.

 No.23043

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>>22447
Reminds me of another African demi-god, Kokopelli

 No.23044

>>22622
The reason they are redoing it is because the original version is a weekly format running in parallel with the source material. This version is seasonal and won't have the filler arcs or pacing issues that result from the weekly format running in parallel to the manga. Also because it's easier to get people to watch a new series than one that's been running for 25 years.

 No.23046

>>23044
So in other words they're cutting out unnecessary filler and episode extension content?

>>22624
This, the new style up til Wano was just too 'clean'

 No.23048

>>23046
More likely they are doing a re-adaptation of the manga so none of that stuff will be there for that reason.

The teaser did have Mayumi Tanaka doing Luffy's voice though. A lot of the voice actors are pretty old to commit to restarting the series, even though they are basically synonymous with the characters for a huge audience. The original is already huge so it's kind of weird to try to replace it, despite the glaring flaws. You could say the manga deserves a "proper" treatment but the current One Piece anime has some of the biggest ever shoes to fill.

 No.23049

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>>22624
The remake benefits from knowing the greater arc of the series, compared to the original debuting 2 years after the manga (out of a likely 30 year run). The shift from traditional to digital animation and the time constraints also made it hard to keep a consistent look throughout. So yes hopefully they will be more consistent and better in this regard and not do something like picrel. Kind of crazy just how quickly they went off the rails in the grand scheme of things.

 No.23661

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The Gorosei have finally moved out in full… one of them is a sandworm and it makes me think Oda wanted to reference Dune because it recently came out.

 No.23702

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>>9121
Also considering these copies are not limited by size, mini-feish giantess fetish and foot-fetish are also covered >>23700

Also why was this spoilered!? The image isn't outright NSFW with no shown genitalia or even nips unlike pic rel!

 No.23964

Hot Take: One Piece already worked on cartoon physics so Gear 5th is stupid even if the animated fight does look cool

 No.23965

>>23964
do cartoons exist in the one piece world for the concept of "cartoon physics" to make sense?

 No.23966

>>23965
They're pre-industrial, using snails instead of phones, so I doubt it. That being said I'm speaking of cartoon physics from how stuff works in-universe. Sanji's leg can get red hot by spinning in the air for example, Oda pretty much admitted it.

 No.23967

>>23966
Yeah but do the characters have a frame of reference for what "cartoon physics" means?

 No.23968

>>23967
I answered the question already. If you mean in terms of "do they have cartoons with cartoon physics in their world" Not really, no TV = no cartoons.
If you mean the concept of cartoon physics (even if perhaps named differently) not really either, a lot of shit that ought to kill people IRL, or be seriously fucked up deformities of the limbs, body or face are fairly normal for characters in One Piece, ordinary looking people are harder to find than weird ones. Hell most of the Devil Fruit powers are bullshit too, going way off-base from their name.


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