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ITT We discuss about our favorite Vtubers, corpo and indie alike. Liveposting, (Spoilered) Porn and Rateposting are all encouraged.

I'll start with my own recommendation:

Rie Himemiya from Phase Connect [EN] Gen 2 Phase Alias. A Vsinger with great covers and original songs such as Love Potion #520 and ゲテモノ (Bizarre Food) / Utsu-P ♡ to give you two examples.

Her streams as of now center around variety gaming such as her recent playthrough of Pokémon HG/SS as her first Pokémon game although she is mostly focused on Limbus Company and Library of Ruina as well as community projects like Date Ideas for Valentines season or making a love song out of Schizophrenic Maros.

However I do recommend her older VODs as well such as Sandtrix or Gayraoke for her humor and great chat interaction. If you want something more recent check out her 100 songs for 100k Christmas Special from last year. Remember to do your reps and backreading

https://www.youtube.com/@HimemiyaRie/streams
https://nitter.net/HimemiyaRie
https://open.spotify.com/intl-es/artist/6tKYFARX2bMPlQwglwXNoB


When it comes to membership content, for Tier 1 you get members exclusive covers, static and animated wallpapers, exclusive community posts and access to her art archive.

>>27417
Phase Connect is the VTubers I watch almost exclusively. I like Tenma, Lumi and Lia, they're funny. I did also watch Pomu, Selen and Kobo. But my favorite VTuber is actually HeavenlyFather from The Russian Badger, he destroys everyone, he's the goat. I love you, HeavenlyFather, don't leave me.

I mostly don't watch VTubers because I'm a very tough guy who does tough things like watching Hellsing Ultimate, playing Mortal Kombat, drinking Monster Energy and listening to Sonic R's soundtrack. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a very tough guy, I swear.

Are there any Vtubers with majority female audience?

>>27425
>Are there any Vtubers with majority female audience?
I assume they're either male or artists. Or male artists.

I'm a bit worried how vtubers will fare in the coming turmoil lads
Here's my favorite indie:
https://www.twitch.tv/mintcastella
She's a big nerd who aside from playing games likes to talk about old sci fi media. I think she has a pretty wide breadth of interests outside of that and a sunny demeanor so she's great at talking with chat.

>>27428
Is this how she looks irl?

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>>27425
>>27426
Hime has near 20% female viewership

>>27430
She doesn't show her face, but she has said that her default model (the one with brown hair) is pretty similar to her.

>>27437
koseki bijou at some point mentioned she has like 30% but I'm convinced that's all anime pfp lolicons choosing female like they do in games

speaking of hololive, I sometimes wonder why did they chose the people they chose for the first en gen, but then I see things like this, and think maybe they were cooking

>>27438
>she has said that her default model (the one with brown hair) is pretty similar to her
I thought the point of having a model is for roleplaying as an anime girl so people don't know how you actually look like.
>>27440
>I sometimes wonder why did they chose the people they chose for the first en gen
It's normal for Japanese companies to have a seperate marketting team for the US (Nintendo of America, SEGA of America), Funimation is even a member of anime committees. They obviously knew what they were doing.

>>27441
Some people just have different philosophies of how they want their models to be.

>>27441
>literally me'ing an avatar of the worst stereotypes about vtubers
why? like, no hate, but why

>>27444
>why?
I'm not saying "acting like an UwU kawaii desu ne moe blob." I meant having a distinct appearance and lore and stuff. Kinda like in professional wrestling.

>>27448
I meant the identification with "needy streamer girl overdose", when the joke of the game is that the girl is the avatar of all the negative vtuber stereotypes the internet has ever come up with

I watch a vtuber but she only streams at 2am on Sunday
One of the best avatars I've seen, the mouth capture thing she has is perfect

>>27449
>I meant the identification with "needy streamer girl overdose"
Bro, that's just a fan art of Lia, I didn't even know it parodies Needy Girl Overdose. I don't even know what the fuck that game is.

>>27451
Well, who is she?

>>27451
>One of the best avatars I've seen, the mouth capture thing she has is perfect
To me the one VTuber who unironically has the best model is Honey Goblin.

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>>27452
>>27449
It's not a bit, it's kinda like when guys identifying with Patrick Bateman while ignoring the message.

As for what Needy Girl Overdose, it's basically a management sim where you play as a Vtuber who is very cunty and menhera who has to deal with the trappings of the industry while trying to grow her subscriber count. Fun fact: both Hime and Lia have their designs inspired by this game.

See for yourselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9NewLSQuI

>>27455
>it's kinda like when [reactionaries] identifying with Patrick Bateman while ignoring the message
Fixed it for ya.

I mean, it makes perfect sense for them to identify with him because they're just as shallow and unempathetic. Patrick Bateman being a serial killer is just a cherry on top, he's a classist, misogynistic, pretentious, greedy, consumeristic, narcissistic, envious, petty, clout-chasing, dishonest, virtue-signalling trust fund kid. In other words, an image of decadent bourgeoisie whom all these Andrew Tate cultists are trying to become.

>>27456
I wonder if the fact Patric Bateman is also a delusional loser nobody likes is willfully ignored, or semi-consciously part of his appeal.

>>27457
>a delusional loser nobody likes
He's a delusional loser nobody likes surrounded by delusional losers nobody likes that all pretend to like each other but still view everyone around them as inferior. Which is 4chan basically.

Ok, I dont know what his audience composition is, but I did find this one recommended in a female otome community.

Btw, can you recommend me a vtuber with a sort of deep/sultry/mature voice? I find that kind of thing soothing.

>>27459
do you mind strong vocal fry?

>>27460
Not at all.

You're not a real fan if you don't support vtuber unionization.

>>27458
>He's a delusional loser nobody likes surrounded by delusional losers nobody likes that all pretend to like each other but still view everyone around them as inferior. Which is 4chan basically.

LeftyPol is the same way as well. But nobody is ready for that conversation.

>>27453
Her name is taffy wabbit on twitch

>>27468
going to happen as soon as wrestler unionization,or uber drivers unionization

>>27468
I imagine vtuber worker co-ops would be easier to set up.

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>>27468
>You're not a real fan if you don't support vtuber unionization.
Of course I do. Unlike rightoids who site with employers 'cause they think worker unions are woke and greedy, like with the recent voice actor strike.
>>27471
>LeftyPol is the same way as well.
That's true. But I do genuinely like some people here so it's not completely trash.

>>27468
>You're not a real fan if you don't support vtuber unionization.
It's just a damn shame that the only thing that people took away from the Selen Shock was "Nijisanji bad" and not looking critically at the abuses in the VTubing industry or improving the lives of all VTubers.

>>27481
>the Selen Shock

nani?

>>27468
not a thing. what they could do is self-managed co-ops, and they already do to some degree, most independents have a "circle" where they promote each others and collab. the "big indie clique" is already making more money than all of nijisanji en combined. I guess the only step left is formalizing the situation a little to make it more accessible to newcomers, make it more streamlined and predictable, more capitalist. something like vshojo but without the e-pimps and administrative leeches

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>>27468
While Unionization would be the ideal and I do support it's implementation, it is hard to pull off as many of the talents in Corporate Agencies live in completely different parts of the planet with different legislation and labor regulations creating a Byzantine situation when it comes to signing as Workers rather than Contractors, maybe creating subbranches for each Region (SEA, NA, LATAM, etc) rather than diving by languages would makes this more feasible, however I do recall that Phase Origins pushed for Unionization back when things when going to shit but never heard any details from the members about what their plan was or if they had any to begin with.

On the other hand I think it is important to remember how catty and backstabbing the whole scene is due to being downstream from Cosplaying circles where everyone knows/hates each other, making a true sense of solidarity that much more difficult to achieve.

Overall, it's more likely to happen as the Industry becomes more well established and mainstream in the future as abuse becomes much less bearable under favorable conditions plus the previously mentioned cattiness might push talents to work for better deals and using collective power/leverage.

What do you think would make Unionization in Corpos more feasible?

is something happening with hololive? they got bought, their CEO quit, english speaking and Japanese talents have been leaving left and right

i was tapped into pippa back when she had like ~10k subs, before she leaned all the way into the chan larp
hime is pretty cool and i love her gyaru persona but all of phase is guilty by association
i like suko because shes a slutty socal asian
i like grimmi because shes a neet like pippa but not evil
i like nyanners because shes a ditzy 30 year old white woman
the only vtuber ive ever gone out of my way to watch is menace. her vibes are comfy.

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If this is what I think it is…I'll miss her so much.

>>27546
goobert….

>>27546
Kinda wish /vt/ was up for this. The meltdown around graduations is always funny but also weirdly comforting. I feel for you Chumbuds, t. Takodachi

>disagreement with management and company direction
is that just the standard script or is something fucked happening at hololive

>she actually did it
Damn. Just as I got into vtubbing Hololive decided to take a nosedive, truly the end of a golden age.

>>27551
It can't be, that kind of statement reflects very poorly on the company, especially coming from your biggest mascot. And it's the same statement for four graduations in very quick succession, so there's something going on for sure

>>27546
Oh wow hololive really will be sunk if she graduates. Hopefully we see her pop up somewhere else like Dokibird did.
Wonder if she could get away with being a shark if Hololive isn't there to sue her.

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do you guys know futaguchi mana? do you like her?
she's a communist and does some streams about it but i'm not that much of a viewer, i know her mainly for the music stuff, but i liked the little i watched

>>27556
Yeah she's pretty fun. Only seen one of her streams but I got a lot of her covers in my Mustic folder.

There's also holotowerdotorg if you want fast discussion.

>>27551
The main issue is probably the bureaucratization that's been creeping in since 2021:hence fans joking about the guy who handles game and music permissions having to fax the company responsible for each game/piece of music.

>>27558
thanks, I've been out of the loop

>>27551
My guess is neither. I would expect if something really fucked was happening that Nimi or Dooby would at least spread innuendo against Holo, but I'm not aware of either doing that, suggesting that the issues are more mundane like lower pay or the bureaucratization like >>27559 was talking about rather than abuse like Niji.

>>27555
She's gonna be a slime girl mark my words.

>>27551
this is around the time they renew contracts so it probably has to do with pay and permits. I think this is less common in the jp branch because the fans there are less receptive towards "indie turns" and it is harder to do in general

for example, their main source of income is merch, and most of this money goes to cover, more than half, because they own the ip and they manage the logistics. dokibird is probably making substantially more money than gura because she sells her own merch. if anything, I'm surprised it took until 2024 for this to start happening. my guess is that this will become a common practice in the english sphere: joining a big corpo, creating a brand, and then spliting off

>>27556
She is pretty based, ngl. If I had the time and patience to watch any streamer live, it'd probably be her. Alas, I only watch clips.

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>my fave team overwhelmingly wins bodocup
>nowhere to post about it
/vspo/… come back… I swear I'll be nicer to the schizosisters…

It feels weird seeing so many /vt/ posters come here, I assumed it would just be me and 5 others

Why are the shark vtuber fans acting like it's 9/11

>>27613
because its shark vtuber fan 9/11

what happened to the shark vtuber

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>>27615
turned into soup

>>27615
she's graduating because Hololive is having some undisclosed management mess. It sounded serious from the tone of her voice in announcement.

>>27606
ultra rare ぶいすぽ poster

Learning Japanese was worth it just to watch indie vtubers who talk about taboo topics instead of pretending to be an idol.

>>27619
>taboo topics
Like what? Pedophilia?

>>27620
Drugs and sex with strangers.

The old hololive is dying and the new hololive struggles to be born, now is the time of being publicly traded.

>>27606
Is the stgr server down or something?

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>>27623
nazu is in STGR recovery right now
there is a relapse every now and thenbut she mostly does other stuff now like WZ with the gang
her latest obsession is a solo minecraft HC run which she chose to continue past ender dragon kill

>>27621
>bro learned a language to consume average women podcast but in japanese
not a big fan of the idol shit either but I also don't like that ALL you understand the hyperbole content made by women has to be about sex. with hololive for example I admire the members that go an extra mile not to sexualize their models or do the "girlfriend experience" or "business yuri" stuff. even though cover is responsible, like any other japanese showbiz agency, of creating and/or adopting the idol nonsense, and incentivizing the culture around it (unicorns and such)

>>27558
thank you

>>27625
>>bro learned a language
That's not something to be ashamed of in literally any case.

>>27624
It's good to see her getting out of Los Santos, but as long as she's happy.

>>27610
We always were in /vt/, you just got psyoped by the /pol/fag chincels into believing it was a right wing board. Also hello from /pcgia/

>>27658
I would say that I didn't necessarily believe that the whole board was filled with reaction, I felt most were largely apolitical. I just felt that a) leftypol is pretty obscure and b) many internet communists would deride the very idea of chuubas.

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Never saw myself coming here either but always was more a fan of the chill threads so if its comfy here i'm happy.

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>>27549
I prefer it this way.

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>>27665
>many internet communists would deride the very idea of chuubas.
lol places like hexbear filled with performative pseuds who post about "hating le gamers" while playing more video games than the average /v/ermin are not the norm

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my kamioshi and my oshi's oshi for the last time…

>>27689
goodbye brat

>>27460
STILL WAITING FOR THAT STRONG VOCAL FRY RECOMMENDATION ANON.

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>>27694
>We even have architects here

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>>27696
Always did

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>>27696
>he doesnt know

>>27694
>大に入んない
Karubi has to be Ariken size.

otsu holotori

>>27689
I had no idea Shion was leaving. I can't say I was a big fan or anything, but I used to listen to her Minecraft streams years ago. They were pretty comfy, and she had good back and forth with chat. Stuff like asking chat what's keigo for kimoi. Actually, Marine's comic of her sleep over with Shion was what got me watching vtubers in the first place. Damn.

rip goora

Now that Gura graduated, what’s gonna happen to all the personalized coded messages from her streams?

Aight /vt/ is gone so i will be posting here from now on. Heres a pink girl to celebrate.

my favourite shion clip

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>>27718
pink girl is a midwestern white woman named karen who makes shitty carnival rap about how the japanese dont like her. do not post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvCL-MqW4s

marvel rivals is even worse to watch than overwatch


>>27727
I know who she is. I know who all of them are. I don't care about that. She's a sweet girl with love in her heart. That pic of her has gotta be really fuckin old tho she looks way younger and not nearly as thick.

Phase ALiAS (minus Panko due to timezone differences) will be having a collab tonight playing Schedule 1 (FOTM) and starting their own drug cartel. It starts in 9 hours from now in case you wanna watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWYf8RbI1wI

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>>27730
beeg cat means big _

I'm glad nyanners is still around

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>>27731
Sorry I'm watching sonic 3 with sana and kronii tonight

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>>27742
<the filename
Same

>>27727
learn to separate the art from the artist

Segs

So like whats the appeal for these vtuber?

>>27749
The same as any other streamer but with model rigs on top of them.

>>27750
I see. I don't understand the appeal of human streamers either but I understand what you said

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>>27749
At first it will be like the other anons said, same as any other streamer/youtuber until you click with one persona and start appreciating the effort behind projects, music, stream ideas, etc …

>>27749
imagine streamers but if the entry barrier was lower and different. you don't need a studio and a hegemonic body, but you need graphic design skills and a better understanding of things like obs and live2d. it can be more direct because once it is setup you don't need prep time before streams, and because the investment is lower you aren't so pressured to appeal to the general public, you can make it worth it with a smaller audience

>>27749
Personally I like watching tournaments like Vsai. Following teams through their training arcs and all the highs and lows, seeing them get emotional at the results is what does it for me. That and listening to people chat about banal shit makes me feel less lonely.

But originally it was for jp practice.

>>27747
all my oshis are hot, 2d and 3d. skill issue.

i still dont understand the meaning of a vtuber "graduating." is that its death? does it still exist in some form past that? is there a concept of a vtuber hell?

>>27757
Graduation means that the character will be retired and that no more content will be made under that name.
Theoretically the character could return for special events if the person behind the character and the company (if the character was part of a company) made an agreement to do so but that has not really happened yet.
There are signs that Amelia Watson might have gone such a path, but only time will tell.
Further notes:
In the context of vtuber corporations, graduation means that the person behind the character has for whatever reason has decided they cannot or do not want to continue being that character and will officially "resign" from the company.
Vtuber hell: This is known as "termination", where the company has reached the conclusion that a breach of the actor's contract has occurred that cannot be forgiven and that the actor will be fired. (The breaches of contract can range from behavior to providing a third party with confidential information about the operation of the company).
In contrast to a graduation, a termination is pretty immediate in the eye of the public, therefore the talent will not have a last hurrah of final streams, other audio-video content or communication with fans/coworkers before their departure.
Finally, the "terminated" talent will not be mentioned by the company on their website's list of "graduated" talents or in communications to the public, unless there's like merch in production that the company might give fans the option to cancel their orders of.

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>>27754
vspo gang vspo gang vspo gang

>>27757
It's Japanese corpo slang for firing someone (or someone quitting) that they use to shield themselves from backlash because admitting a beloved idol has had enough of the company would draw negative attention to it
Of course most idol fans are dogshit fucking stupid so they fall for it

>>27764
>muh corpos
You're acting like vtubers are doing manual labor on a factory and not getting paid to play video games on a stream lmfao.

>>27764
I think most people that can actively watch their favorite corpo vtuber can evaluate the situation and tell that the vtuber has had enough of the company. At the end of the day the issue the vtuber had with the company can range from being weary of the hoops they have to jump through to get anything done such as the company asking permission from a publisher to play a game, to the company being nitpicky about what can be done as content to "protect" investors, having 5000 meetings, with actual black company stuff being further down the spectrum

>>27764
except the fans always side with the artist. the vtubers that go indie after being fired have been significantly more successful than they were under a company. as a matter of fact, once a vtuber has reached a certain size I would say that being under a company becomes counter productive both for the artist and the audience. whenever a corpo vtuber "graduates", and specially if they have experience being independent, fans see it as something positive because there is a chance they will come back more motivated (no corporate bullshit + more money) and with more creative freedom

and it isn't black and white, you have cases like skye shinryu where the company fired her but agreed to sell her the IP for the character. these aren't factory jobs, the current meta is using companies as stepping stones based and that's how it should be. the japanese companies don't take it kindly but at this point I think they understand that making any drama only benefits the artist

>>27774
>the japanese companies don't take it kindly
Because they still have the boomer mentality that you're supposed to remain in your first job forever whereas in the rest of the developed world and among the petit-bourgeois switching to a better job when the opportunity arises is the norm.

>>27765
This terminology is not exclusive to vtubers you dumb secondary

>hurr durr if a worker isn't literally in the mines hauling coal they don't deserve any sympathy

What's /vt/'s opinion of Savii? I feel like she draws a lot of the same audience as chud favorites like SmugAlana, but she herself is not nearly as insufferable in her opinions.

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>>27778
>gets proven wrong
>random greentext without quotes
Ok loser.

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I checked warosu and the ghost posts on /vt/ are hell.

>>27606
Ariken shouting "I'm Shin-chan!" after beating Haseshin in the 1v1 was perfect. And Qpi has been looking good at CoD. I didn't see their practices, but she was tearing it up during the Showdown thing. Pretty fun event, wouldn't mind seeing more Warzone (anything but League really).

>>27483
>nani?
Over a year ago, the Nijisanji liver (VTuber) Selen Tatsuki was terminated. She had been gone for over a month and fans were worried. What happened was that after bullying and harrassment in Nijisanji, she attempted to take her own life and had been hospitalized. After that broke, Nijisanji publically fired her, hoping to humiliate her. What happened instead is that she took the Dragoons (Her fanbase) with her and returned to her former VTuber persona Dokibird. Nijisanji EN has not recovered from this.

>>27780
Never heard of her but she looks sex.

>>27760
Well speak of the devil, Ame will be appearing for a performance in Kiara's spring live later today. It's a shame Cover fucked up with some scheduling, otherwise Mumei and Fauna would have been able to appear in this one, making this live include every EN member.

>>27727
She’s performed for Japanese royalty

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Noah and Towa on the same team since what? 2021?
Haseshin's team looks strong, but then again Cheeky exists and is in the lobby, so that may be enough to break Tsuna's mental.
Maybe Itoitoi will pop off with another 4 champ performance.

>>27727
japanesus

>>27797
>no gyaru
beni sakura gori is a funny team but I also see a synergistic kuromu + ojis team

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wither too strong

>>27807
f

>>27806
Beni's team does look fun, but then again I have seen Gorilla on teams with awful vibes. Like Vsai4 or the Gachinko Series. No way anyone is taking this that seriously, though.
I'm not familiar with the guys on Kuromu's team. I know Mukai is a former pro, but no idea who Dasoku is. Honestly, I sort of closed the window when Kuromu started doing the oxygen bit in her first stream and haven't watched her since. Maybe I should give them a shot.

>>27808
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuHTBwxAt1LwJWflSv6PIxzpVeIFFXEaN
kuromusan's vcr minecraft adventures in translated clip form showcases many of her talents, including the aforementioned synergy with ojisans

/vrt/ chads are the only streams worth watching. I don't care about political streamers (yuck) or modern slop or yapslop. Old games are comfy and hard filter the most annoying people, generally.

>>27809
Actually kinda funny. I can respect the craft. Her and Yuuhi acting like brats was pretty good. Telling Wakio about the talking horse was cute too.

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Found key jingling for pedophiles.

>>27839
I like vtubers but this helium voice shit is too much.

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>>27839
>hurr durr muh pedos
Go back to Reddit, cumskinned horsecum guzzler mudhut dwelling faggot


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>>27839
>>27841
>"hurr durr muh pedos"
>video: "cunny" "cunny" "sex"
>namefag
opinion discarded


>>27843
it the other way around from the shit i've on discord and twitter

>>27614
>>27613
>>27617
>>27546
>because its shark vtuber fan 9/11
good.
senzawa>gawr gura

>>27853
ok boomer

>>27844
based

>>27481
Even fucking kpop stans, as deranged and parasocial as they are, understood years ago how all companies are shit and they should only support the talents working under them
Instead the vtubing commuunity acted like every nijisanji en talent they dislike is an evil bully mastermind while using dokis attempts as an excuse to be absolutely vile, when in reality they hate niji because the talents and fans are more "woke"
Until recently they kept dickriding yagoo as if clover wasnt also shit

>>27839
Whatering down pedophilia aside, even if most shondo fans are retarded rightoids and her voice is annoying i do feel bad for her recently, with her mom dying and her getting doxxed like a month later
I dont think her and pippa are actual nazis like asmongold cocksucker kirsche, they just grew up with edgy channer humor and now have an unbereable audience they cant run away from

>>27851
>>27852
never seen the "other way around" anywhere on the internet, must be a you thing.

>>27857
>they cant run away from
Yeah that's why they keep pandering to them huh? Poor little streamers who'd rather do this than get a job.

>>27843
Rather be an internet addict than a pedo tbh

>>27867
You dont get it, some people just can't work a normal job, they have to cultivate followings full of alt right reactionaries.

>>27868
we can see it bruv.

>>27859
>must be a you thing.
much as it's a (you) thing when you go to shitty site like twitter and discord.

>>27873
any social media is shitty, people think untempered opinions, the lowest slop created by sapient thought, is worth enough to be exposed for many other people

>>27874
>any social media is shitty
No shit
Just stop using sites like twitter where there both "sides" on the same site, with it's algorithm guesses shown for you.
OP post is still accurate, you doing the same thing with the reddit meme you posted at this point.

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>>27867
They know they will get harassed for asking their fans to stop being edgy nazi wannabes
Not saying they arent fucking stupid for building an audience like that, i just dont think they are actual nazis

>>27875
Too bad for you i don't have an account to any social media and still have seen the other way around, you must also be part of the thing.

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pi…
anyway /vt/ is back, pce out
gaming girls will bring communism

>>27883
brother she got that audience by making clips praising asmongold or whatever his name is. they know chuds are the main twitch audience, that is by no means a secret. fascism might not be the mainstream among the youth, but the average liberal doesn't watch vtubers or buy merch, much less the average leftist

funnily enough, this also means that her audience aren't unicorns because they don't mind the fascination with right-wing commentators. is it really bad if she got doxxed? vtubers these days seem to have rather boring lives and didn't do anything before vtubing. it isn't like keekihime I hope she writes an autobiography some day, she is the forrest gump of degenerate otaku culture and drama

>>27885
nah, ur just jelly with accurate assessment with .webm file, if ur reddit meme was based nothing then

>>27546
Literally never cared about her
>>27556
>do you guys know futaguchi mana?
Yeah.
>do you like her?
She's fine. Her vocals are nice.

anyone read the Sinder debacle? i thought she and bao were extremely close friends but no shes been trying to backstab her the whole time by trying to alienate their mutual artist just to climb the ladder. Insight into the capitalist grindset and its fucking ugly. No matter how friendly they seem on the outside theyll do anything to get ahead and you wouldnt even know it.

>>27895
Nearly all vtubers are this way because the environment is ripe for abuse by manipulative sociopaths

>>27895
what's the debacle?

>>27897
>>27899
https://x.com/Nanoless_/status/1916005023646916910
https://x.com/baovtuber/status/1916006443242639566

tl;dr google docs allege Sinder and her manager are in kahoots trying to guilt trip artist to become their sole provider. Manager actively bids cancelling other vtubers models so they can solely focus on theirs. Tries to imply that only because of them they have become so successful. Alienation and its consequences.

>>27895
cowboy>ok boomer

feel kinda guilty for enjoying this sinder shit like it's jerry springer

>>27942
Why would you feel guilty? This shit is rich

>>27942
is “ill pay you to only work for me and me alone” really that controversial? pretty sure it happens all the time, unless its deeper than that.

Here's a site with an archive of Mumei karaokes
https://mumei.cool/

>>27950
Its more about how she is shitalking and trying to sabotage people who are supposed to be her friends

i dont follow any vtubers, but i see alot of hololive is graduating recently even the shark, is there any reason for this? also do hololives acknowledge non-hololive vtubers for collabs or anything or is hololive like exclusive club thats too good for outsiders?

>>27958
Very long post:
Of the EN graduates, Ame, Fauna and Gura seem to have graduated due to some frustrations with the bureaucracy of Hololive. Some elements of that bureaucracy include the company having to get written permission from game and music publishers for games to be played on stream and for song covers to be uploaded onto youtube. Both processes seem to be pretty lengthy and pretty costly in the case of english language covers. Although I will note that these processes have their roots in Capcom issuing copyright strikes against one of the Holo JP's channels all the back in 2020, the music side was further impacted in the winter of 2021 when some idiotic streamer loudly flouted the youtube copyright rules when he moved over from twitch, causing Hololive to impose further restrictions by discouraging the old loophole of talents being able to have karaoke streams with songs the company didn't have explicit permission to use by just making sure to private the stream afterwards. The unarchived karaoke was revived pretty quickly after this, but in a zombified form where talents had to use songs available from the karaoke website karafun and with the further stipulation that no Disney songs could be sung.
Another aspect of Hololive bureaucracy is the company sometimes letting talent projects die in limbo: see Gura's song Full Cover that was sung at a concert but will now never be officially released, according to the composers that worked on it. The last element I'll mention is the fact that there's a ton of company meetings that tend to be scheduled at shitty times for the talents outside of Japan.

>>27960
Little bit more about the graduates then discussion of non Holo vtubers:
Gura:
Gura has said that in addition to the bureaucratic runaround she's been stressed by having so many eyes on her (both from the public and the company).
Mumei:
She primarily graduated due to her throat being damaged by illness awhile ago, she says she probably would have stayed if not for that, see the site in >>27953 to see how much she loves the singing aspect of Hololive.
Acknowledgement of non hololive vtubers:
Collabs with non hololive vtubers aren't the most common thing in the world, but there's still a decent amount. Here's some off the top of my head:
Kiara:Aura GX (yes, the opera vtuber lol), Mint Fantome (formerly Pomu from Nijisanji)
Calli:Boogey Vox (a former duo of Japanese rappers that she knew pre Holo) She even made 2 songs with them and brought them on to perform those with her at her 3D showcase before the duo broke up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-1YSwRHfk
Another one that Calli has collabed with was Milkyqueen (pre holo friend that actually encouraged her to apply for the company, Milkyqueen herself sadly graduated from her tiny company pretty recently)
Ina: Pikamee/Henya
The Japanese talents also occasionally collab with non hololive vtubers both in the form of musical performances, fps tournaments and more casual gaming/chatting streams (main ones I know off the top of my head are Inuyama Tamaki (manga artist that vtubes) and Hoshikawa Sara from Nijisanji.

TLDR:Hololive members do collab with non Holo vtubers, but it's not common, especially due to the bureaucratic vetting/contract making process (if the vtuber is from a company rather than independent) and just the basic fact that Hololive provides a 'default' group of people to collab with.
Interestingly, Hololive Indonesia collabs with non Hololive vtubers and even regular streamers the most often, likely due to there being only 9 talents in this branch and the ID management encouraging them to integrate into the ID internet sphere so that they get more eyes from both companies and viewers (maybe due to there being less money to go around the ID internet in comparison to the anglophone or japanese audience?)

One more 4 member myth collab…

>>27961
kinda eop answer, the JP side has chuubers who constantly collab outside the corpo, most prominently wannabe vspos like towa, aki, lapu

also one special case is collabs with graduated holos, since Choco and Mel had to jump on their PLs for collabs with Kson it seems like they aren't allowed to collab with ex-holos on holo accounts - it could also just be that they want to avoid having to make any kind of definitive ruling on the matter
Rika (formerly Mel) recently talked about playing RP games with Ririka of holo devis (& Sumire of vspo)
if she is gonna join a big streamer server like VCR (which she did once as Mel shortly before getting axed, and she was pushing hard to get into the vspo circle) its gonna test that rule since holos will almost certainly join
hearing her do the hajimemashites with aki/choco/matsuri would be weird

>enreco
zzzz

New Phase Connect Invaders Debut Watchalong in 15 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQccku4wtCk

>>28015
mannn whys mari gotta join, ruins her aura.

>>28013
eh, the first stream was all over the place last time too

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>join Mana's stream
>see this.

recommend me a vtuber that plays old games and doesn't do the voice

>>28028
What the hell is THAT

>>28029
Not sure if you consider hers "the voice" but Amiya Aranha plays old games, sometimes on obscure systems. She even has a pc 98 that she fixed up
https://www.youtube.com/@AmiyaAranha

we need an alunya vtuber

>>28040
by doing the voice I mean the usual vtuber affectations, she kind of does it but the content seems good

from the few vtubers that have played morrowind none used openmw. this offends me deeply but I don't understand why

I honestly hate that there are so many ultra-right VTubers. It's a medium very vulnerable to the Alt-Right (I know the Alt-Right doesn't exist as such, but it's an example. I also hate how they try so hard to look like very young idols with childish voices. It's… bizarre (I won't deny that I watch it sometimes, but it's weird bro).

>>28048
I hate Rev and wish that dramafag would just fuck off

>>28050
but whom is gonna twist anything in the internet to fit rightoid weebs agendas ?

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>>28048
>I also hate how they try so hard to look like very young idols with childish voices. It's… bizarre
RevDesu doesn't even try; he just has this deep man-voice with the l0li VTuber model. If you're not going to even bother disguising your voice, at least lean into being a guy instead of this wierd shit.

is kiara being lowkey jealous of gigi part of the kayfabe?

>>28048
Do any of those fags on the left actually play video games or watch anime?

>>28048
>I also hate how they try so hard to look like very young idols with childish voices. It's… bizarre (I won't deny that I watch it sometimes, but it's weird bro).


?????

>I honestly hate that there are so many ultra-right VTubers. It's a medium very vulnerable to the Alt-Right (I know the Alt-Right doesn't exist as such, but it's an example.


Is this true or is this exaggeration?
Because I had to deal with people complaining about everything being "too leftist" for years.
Most left or right that I see on average is liberal


>>28067
I bet the VTubers themselves probably don't. At least not as much compared to their audience.
And who knows if they play Vidya or watch anime as much you'd assume they would?

>>28070
The VTuber fandom seems "left-wing"/Democrat because of its "wholesome" and "kawaii" appearance, also because, ironically, its apolitical atmosphere gives you the standard impression that it should be that way. However, you only have to dig a little to find weird stuff (obsessive fans, racist jokes, doxxing, even VTubers who are literally non-ironic neo-Nazis. They're weird, but trust me, it's not good to stumble upon one of those; they're embarrassing). By the way, a few years ago, they wanted to cancel Mana for denouncing the Nazism of the Azovians. I think they even tried to dox her for it. The idiot liberals on Reddit got really angry about her tweets. LMAO

>>28071
paradoxically, most english vtubers aren't white. I would say 30% are latinx or mixed, 25% chinese/korean/japanese, 15% SEA, 10% slav/med/german, 10% actual WASP, and 10% other

it kind of matches the demographics of 4chan and pretty much all international anime communities now that I think about it. there is a background of racism though, the fact that there are so few black voice actresses is definitely a hint, or the fact that they are so shy about it

So, Kirsche likes BBCs. Who would have thought it? Hahaha 😂

did anything happen with the yab studio guys? the music studio that had been roofing and raping idols/vtubers since 2018?
I forgot about it a week after the controversy, but I'm looking it up now and it doesn't seem like they went to prison or anything, not even an indictment, was it fake or is the japanese legal system even more dysfunctional that previously thought? I can't even find stuff in newspapers, that's fucked up

>>28084
they fired the guy who admitted to be doing it,that's it

>>28085
The system works

>>28083
is this actually real

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TFW you read "didney land" and thought it said "Diddy Land".

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Porndump

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>>28102
Flood detected; Post discarded.

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Keep hearing about problems in the "vtubing community" and every time I look into it, it's just the same 5 or so people over and over again lol. They are signal boosting a few freaks and making them rich in the process.

>>28048
remember the face of hololive now Mori Calliope writes cringe anti-cancel culture songs

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>>28109
Evidence for this claim?

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>>28115
I don't see how this is an issue?

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>>28116
It's always pippa and never tenma, she engages in all the same rw dogwhistles. Also rev is a creepy pedo

>>28117
because tenma is actually funny and entertaining to watch, unlike pippa
and, like the average balkanoid woman she is, she had a botched abortion and rejected her ultra-religious education. on these experiences alone I think the person behind the character must be, deep down, baseline progressive

>>28115
imagine listening to mori/demondice
it is so fucking weird, much like *pop this is content that goes through the motions of music but it is not, and I don't know what to call it

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>>28117
Panko leans hard into the RW grift as well and feels like she's mimicking Tenma. I liked her until it became her personality.
>>28123
The founding members of Phase Connect, like Tenma, are among the earliest and the peak of RW grifters in the VTuber community.

>>28117
>>28125
These aren't like actual anime/manga characters. They are a simulacrum

>>27857
> her mom dying and her getting doxxed like a month later
that happened? I dont keep up with vtubers in general so I dont know what goes on with them that often. Damn, on top of losing someone else a few years ago which I think was her dad but im not sure from how she phrased it in character. Her mom seemed like a cool person too. I hope Shondo is doing okay, can't be good for her already troubled mental health.

>>27867
> Yeah that's why they keep pandering to them huh? Poor little streamers who'd rather do this than get a job.
I smell bacon.

>>28125
>Panko and Tenma
I haven't heard either of them do anything chvddy and I've been following both for a while. Context?

>>28137
nta but corpo vtubers always keep a very sanitized image so any slip is seen as a big statement. tenma has used the "rope" meme when referring to (but not explicitly mentioning) trans outrage over a videogame. panko has used a "freedom of expression" type dogwhistles. it is not overt, but these are winks towards the chuds. in their defense I have to reiterate the obvious: that's where the money is, liberals and leftists don't spend money on chuubas. there is a small segment of gay men that do, but only for the more idol-ish ones

as a consolation prize, they both despise their own audiences

>>28151
I think there likely are cases vtubers have managers lie to them about the meaning of something so they trick them into using dog whistles they dont even get themselves or in their efforts to appeal to an audience they come to misunderstandings on their own.

>>28151
>as a consolation prize, they both despise their own audiences
stockholm syndrome in action

>>28158
you mean they go along with the audience even if they despise them?
it is stockholm syndrome and it is proof that ss is fake, they are doing it for an economic reason, not because of some fancy brain hack

>>28151
Tenma and Panko and anyone else courting chuds are bad at long term thinking. Right wingers are not loyal in the slightest. People rightfully see it as chudslop and/or coomerslop now.

There was a period when holomyth first debuted, that people were genuinely hopeful for vtubing as a community or 'scene'. That hope is gone now. Vtubing reputation is in the gutter thanks to the hardcore rightoid grifters. At this point you could genuinely get better numbers without a live2d than with one, even if you're ugly as shit.

They had a real chance to build something long-lasting, resembling the vocaloid community based around community collaboration and creation. That window of opportunity is long gone now.

Ironically, vtubing in the east is fairly stable. While its numbers in the west are dropping like flies. Nobody is coming into the fandom, but many are leaving out of boredom.

Is there any that pander to leftists? i know there was a nijisanji male vtuber that was all about palestine, but I swear he got outed for being a weird discord pest or graduated, but nijisanji as a whole just comes off as a tainted agency nowadays. Phase connect also has so much more freedom compared to other agencies, so its not uncommon to see one trending for saying some dumb shit.

>>27857
pippa at most is a trumptard, her whole likes list was full of trump tweets. >>27839 this fiend panders hard to chuds and I'm not talking about all the pedo loli garbage.

>>28167
and the pendulum is swinging, anime is falling off in the west, most internet people have already rolled their eyes at it, both weebs and casuals. we are going back to the "ironic consumption" from 2016 where the aesthetics of anime are mainstream but the content itself is not

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>Ririgaki's own fanbase is turning against her because she's not racist enough
Lol am I supposed to feel bad for grifters falling for their own schemes

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>>28174
Make Fascists Afraid Again

>>28167
>>28172
Do you have any proof of this happening? Would like some numbers to slap at people

>>28173
This is so funny lmao

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>>28151
>liberals and leftists don't spend money on chuubas. there is a small segment of gay men that do, but only for the more idol-ish ones
wtf kinda post is this
how would you even begin to get the data for this

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>>28174
She looks like an actual female chud

>>28197
Why is she hiding behind the anime avatar when she is actually good looking?

>>28197
what's the point of a vtuber that doesn't even try to concel their identity

>>28151
i don't believe that's where the money is. the biggest indie vtubers do not dog whistle like that and some of them like ironmouse for example implicitly repel a chud audience by 1) not hiding their non white ethnicity, 2) openly associating with non whites, and 3) openly associating with lgbt vtubers and people.

>>28204
but the is a marked for chuds anon, ironmouse's existance won't purge the reich wing wanting people being on their side that they watch for entertainement, so chudtubers rise up to fill this niche.

Himemiya Rie's Birthday Stream soon, at 8 pm PST

Also new cover dropping for Wonderland Reverie Zenless Zone Zero: Astra Yao EP right before the birthday stream kicks off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYZazVbp8Dg

>>28151
There are many liberal or apolitical men and women who spend money on vtubers anon. I think it to an extent boils down to what chuubas you follow and who you follow on twatter, not everywhere is the shithole that is /vt/ or the scumsuckers on /vt/ repost accounts.

Having read up on ririgaki's tweets and shit, she is so fucking annoying. For a chud she sure bitches and acts like a victim all the time. No real attempt to act like a hard ass too.

>>28213
>For a chud she sure bitches and acts like a victim all the time.
That's just the average chud in 2025.


>>28214
>>28213
Chuds were always whiners. Hell, they run on indignation

>indie gura
called it
what a catastrophic year for the leeches and epimps

Every time I hear those V-chuds talk, I just think of this song

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>>28232
this just popped up on my feed, we need a commie vtuber to balance things out

>>28233
Mana bb


>>28233
There was at a time one girl that was promoting cybersocialism as her whole thing and she left after a few videos never seemed to do streams just made videos. There also was one LARPing as a gender swapped Josef Stalin.

>>28233
On my Youtube feed once there was a Vtuber who was promoting the DPRK can Reading Theory of Juche. So that was cool.

Why do the chudtubers have such shit rigs?


>>28249
The rigging? Because they dont really care and are just using an anime like image hoping they can grift on for money so they will not take the time to do it themselves well or pay someone good at it.

hololive:
>lets invent the seiso idol vtuber concept

also hololive:
>lets find the four women with the highest body counts on earth for our next gen

bourgeois decadence meets bourgeois incompetence


>>28339
what gen?

>>28342
don't reply to the incel

I will never understand why people get upset about the sexual lives of the seiyuus, your waifu is not her voice, she's still pure!

>>28339
>he think people outside of japan care if you have sex
still find it hilarious that they mald about basic celebrities and fashion model getting married there

>>28233
No we don’t.
Let the slop be for reactionary slop eaters

>>28344
Yeah this, why is this concept so hard for ppl to understand

>>28342
the upcoming en gen that got leaked on the id unofficial discord


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