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>They said back in 2007-2012 that anime/manga would never surpass its US counterparts.
>Now anime/manga is a global mass phenomenon.
>The United States is now a fascist theocracy, with zero irony or subtlety.

>>29010
>>They said back in 2007-2012 that anime/manga would never surpass its US counterparts.
Who? American comics and cartoons were already well in decline by that point lol

>>29015
I dont think many people expected the absolute manga takeover thought. I am not even from USA, but even here in eastern europe In reacent years in bookstores manga went from a single half-shelf somewhere in comic/graphic novel section to completely devouring it and expanding even further.

>>29015
They've probably been in decline since the 50s. That's when American comics begun to narrow down and focused entirely on the pre-teen demographic. Anime and manga have always had more variety and the art was generally better. Sure, most anime visuals sucked compared to what Disney were doing, but they consistently told better stories.

>>29016
I miss the days when you could only get stuff from fan translations, bootleg VHS, and a small number of niche distributors. It felt more community orientated than an anonymous mass of people buying corporate published translations from stores stocked with the stuff. Its probably had a negative effect on anime/manga in general because so much of it is now made to cater to Western audiences you get an Americanization of anime. It begins to loose its distinctiveness and gets sloppier and sloppier, approximating the same soulless low quality as American pop culture.

>>29017
>That's when American comics begun to narrow down and focused entirely on the pre-teen demographic
Not really accurate, explicitly adult-oriented comics stared in the 60s underground and sold millions of issues. I'd argue the real decline for comics in both quality and popularity was in the late 80s when the industry reorganized itself around the collector's market which led to a crash in less than a decade. This left only the geeks who have no vision for the form other than their personal fanfics of Big 2 superheroes and now it's an insular medium with bad art and no ambition.

>>29010
What's the causation? Did anime help make America more fascist, or did America embrace anime because it became more fascist? I know someone who believes bronies were the tipping point. Once you had hordes of troubled young men admitting something so embarassing en masse, it moved the Overton window. He also believed a lot of bronies were ancap/libertarian types who became fascist with the right nudge.

>>29019
It is an example of how low it has fallen


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