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 No.3388

Not much of a vtuber fan, I only occasionally watch clips, but I'm saddened to hear that even something as innocent as the vtuber sphere has been infected with politics and will breed new reactionaries out of lonely people with nothing better to do. Is no form of escapism safe from politics anymore?
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 No.3390

>>3388
What happened, exactly?
The hololive thread on /jp/ is just too fast to get any good info.
No, really, it's even faster that the damn trump general on /pol/
>I'm saddened to hear that even something as innocent as the vtuber sphere
That shit is corporate as fuck, dude.
It actually surprised me how quick it got porkied up.
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 No.3391

I find it hilarious. The /jp/sies are positively pissing themselves with rage.
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 No.3392

>>3390
Haato was looking at audience statistics and mentioned Taiwan. Sometime after Coco showed an analytics page with Taiwan on it, her bilibili stream immediately went down. Chinese fans demanded an apology day one, radio silence for three days which made Chinese fans furious. Then Coco and Haato got suspended for three weeks by their management which made Japanese and English language fans furious. Now the CCP is somehow being blamed even though I'm not sure what the CCP had to do with it directly speaking.
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 No.3393

The /jp/ thread is actually kinda entertaining.
>Some vtuber defends the chinese
>Half of the thread loses their shit (including some paypigs)
The rest of the thread is just glowie propaganda.
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 No.3394

>>3393
Actual CIA niggers think that chapos are the most threatening thing about the left, they don't know shit about this. This is just homegrown reddit/pol/ autism.
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 No.3395

/anime/ - Shit-eating Youtube Celebrities
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 No.3397

This is just another example of COVER being shit with protecting their employees, and I'm really not looking forward to all the free HK style spam that will probably be shit out, so I'll try to shift to watching indies.
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 No.3398

Does anyone have that story about burgers that flipped out over a Che mural put up in Ireland?
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 No.3399

In the event of Coco and Haato graduating by the end of three weeks, I hope K Son can kind of come back to the indie scene and give Haato a hand.
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 No.3400

>>3395
/anime/ was approved as a general weeb board newfriend
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 No.3401

>>3397
What are the indies anyways?
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 No.3406

>>3401
Kagura Mea is one
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 No.3407

>>3388
e-celebs wearing an anime girl face are still e-celebs.

>>3391
/jp/ has reclined.
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 No.3410

>>3407
>/jp/ has reclined.
Some things never change however. The pedophile group that believes lolikon pornography is exclusively made by and for pedophiles is still claiming this in 2020 even though it's been debunked by historical research of the lolikon phenomenon and its fanbase in Japan.
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 No.3411

>>3410
What does this have to do with the thread and why is it the third time someone brings it up on an unrelated thread? Are you that desperate for attention?
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 No.3412

>>3508
>What's wrong with vtuber ecelebs?
Social media might be more up your alley.
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 No.3415

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I don't know much about v-tubers. i only watch the funny english clips.
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 No.3416

I don't get how can anyone stomach watching these, their face-tracking software is pure garbage. I tried watching some clips of them singing but they might as well just put up a static image instead of some half-assed animation that does not match the movements involved in singing at all.
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 No.3417

>>3411
We were talking about the state of /jp/ friend take it easy, also this is my first time bringing it up on bunkerchan, where else is this being mentioned?
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 No.3418

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My friend group is already shitting out reactionary anti-China memes that reminds me of the Hog Kog glowie retardation. I'm hoping the issue will just pass, people will shift focus to YouTube removing community contributions or something, and nobody tries to escalate the issue by doubling down.

>>3390
tl;dr: They recognized Taiwan as a separate entity from China which violates the One-China policy.
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 No.3439

>>3392
>>3418
so to get this straight, a bunch of Chinese fans got upset over the mention of Taiwan, and their company overreacted and might fire them because of it?
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 No.3441

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>>3439
>a bunch of Chinese fans got upset over the mention of Taiwan,
It's a bit more complex than that. From what I can tell, everyone's oversimplifying the situation and leaving out the fact that there's a whole chain of unfortunate coincidences that caused the Chinese to think that Coco hated them, which is why they forgive Haato but some are calling for Coco's head.

>and their company overreacted and might fire them because of it?

Cover Corp isn't good at protecting their employees and this incident is coming right after the Mano Aloe's forced retirement, so people are freaking out thinking "the goddamn commies killed coco!!!!1!!" when they really just gave them a 3 week break.

The company has issued out a couple of statements on the matter, but people don't accept apologies easily these days, so y'know…
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 No.3442

>>3441
>From what I can tell, everyone's oversimplifying the situation and leaving out the fact that there's a whole chain of unfortunate coincidences that caused the Chinese to think that Coco hated them, which is why they forgive Haato but some are calling for Coco's head.
Yes, I remember reading that Chinese fans think Coco hates them. Mind elaborating how this happened?
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 No.3447

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 No.3451

CANCEL CULTURE GONE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 No.3459

>>3442
From what I've read, they think that Coco did it deliberately because her analytics showed she had a lower Chinese viewer/dono base than the other vtubers.

>>3447
Do people on Bili even care?
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 No.3464

>>3459
It's just REEEEEEEEing at some minority of chinese posters
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 No.3465

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Japanese otaku are shit.
Western otaku are shit.
Chinese otaku are, you guessed it, shit too.

You can thank social media for intensifying their (our) shittiness.
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 No.3466

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Also fuck e-celebs and fuck streaming.
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 No.3469

>>3466
Thank you 69 Spacezin
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 No.3475

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>>3442
I can't be arsed to look into it more since all the discussions zones are flooded with useless anti-communist reactionary trash, but it looks like Coco's incident happens right after Haato's incident which made some people think she was doubling down and personally giving China the middle finger.

The people going "wtf commies killed coco" are just reactionaries that watch garbage like Hero Hei and won't do anything but continue to be fed garbage by YouTube's autoplay algorithm.

I don't understand why idiots think Cover Corp would just fire their two best employees like that's a terrible business approach. The circumstances are completely different from the Mano Aloe incident since Mano Aloe barely lasted a month under Cover Corp so there was really no risk.
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 No.8053

she just graduated :(
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 No.8054

aaand the sinophobes are coming out of the woodworks as usual :/
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 No.8055

>>8054
yeah. Cover as usual didn’t do shit. I hope she’s able to stream as an Indie.
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 No.8056

This is why I only watch independent vtubers.
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 No.8057

>>8056
it’s okay bro :(
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 No.8059

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son, what the hell are you talking about? come downstairs, your mom made dinner
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 No.8065

>>8054
/vt/ casually denying nanking ever happened
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 No.8083

>>8059
>2006
Ew.
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 No.8084

The company itself is a corporate shithole no surprise. Which is why independence is so important here. The redeeming part of the whole hololive thing is the community and the personalities but outside that when it comes to corporate formalism it’s complete shit and bureaucratic.

I honestly don’t understand why things like “antis” exist and this whole thing with China and Taiwan is pathetic nationalist shit. I’m all for a nation to have self determination but at the expense of discipline? Of not having a bunch of retard nationalist starting shit?
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 No.8085

Thank god vtuber fans will face the wall in the end
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 No.8086

>>8084
there's like a billions of chinamen. The CPC slaps the ones who harass others when they can but they can only do so much honestly.
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 No.8088

>>8086
They’re not doing enough. They should take the nationalist and ironically make them work 14 hour days 6 days a week in a factory with no ventilation in order to teach them about shedding their nationalist reactionary views.
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 No.8089

>>8088
Unironically*
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 No.8105

>>8056
If you know japanese this is totally worth it. You'll find niche stuff like drug and porn addicts that don't behave like literal fucking babies instead of garbage like Hollowlive and imitators.
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 No.8106

>>8105
Those are the ones that get the most hate, aren't they? Why are the Japanese like that?
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 No.8118

>>8088
The CPC know they'll need cannonfodder when the war with the US will come. And nationalists have the perfect mindset for that.
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 No.8119

>>8106
Because Japan hate actually good stuff and just wants to consoom shit all day,obviously.
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 No.8134

>>8105
Hololive has porn addicts though
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 No.8136

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/vt/ seething about china 24/7 is embarrassing
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 No.8137

>>8136
it's hilarious more than anything
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 No.8139

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>>8105
Mainstream vtubers feel so shallow and staged tbh. Streamers might've killed television but they're just as mindless as TV was and is.
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 No.8141

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 No.8142

>>3390
The concept of vtubering itself is a symptom of modern capitalism which breeds loneliness and suffering, and vtubers are capitalist products that pacify those people.
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 No.8150

>>8139
Its way more mindless i think therre was never a daily 8 hour tv show were some animated girl larped as a 8 year old while playing videa
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 No.8164

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>>8150
they made 143 episodes of Mister Ed, which is mostly footage of a horse with a voice-over
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 No.8165

>>8053
Sad to hear about it. I hope she decided to go independent or something. Fans would find her pretty quick even if she is no longer "Coco".
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 No.8180

>>8134
Sorry I meant sex addicts vtubers who sometimes tweet recently taken pictures of used condoms and stuff.
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 No.8181

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2ch is blowing up over this. Apparently during the ending portion of Pekora's stream she was talking about food and she mentioned a store that she thought was a chain, but apparently it's only a local shop. It wouldn't have been a big deal but she said it only took her a couple of minutes to walk there if she takes a certain route(giving specific landmarks she goes by even). She basically told people exactly where she lives. She privated the stream right after and the part was cut out, but someone recorded it and it's spreading everywhere. I don't know anything about Tokyo, but maybe someone here can find the location. Here's the portion she cut.
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 No.8182

>>8181
oof downfall of Hololive accelerating quickly. you just know someone’s gonna do something controversial
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 No.8183

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>>8164
My favorite vtuber, right next to Sub Zero from Mortal Kombat
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 No.8185

>>8181
Would someone actually stalk a person though?

Like, just leave these weebs alone.
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 No.8212

>>8181
>>8185
Hololive takes two incredibly shitty things, streamers and idols, and puts them together. It's only natural something like this would happen.
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 No.8214

Another one bites the dust.
China #1.
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 No.8215

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 No.8216

>>8214
Not even into vtubers but I've been checking /vt/ only to see their collective meltdown over China.
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 No.8217

>>8214
I feel like Haachama is just delaying the inevitable. Her creative talents has been stripped away through YouTube and Hololive’s Enforcement and she’s being harassed as well. She’s taken so many breaks as well this year.
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 No.8218

isn't it hilarious how the same retards that shat on 'egirls'/'ethots' and 'simp' culture are now whiteknighting vtubers
and all it took was 2D avatars with anime aesthetics
>>8181
it's Perfect Blue all over again
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 No.8233

>>8181
for hololive to become the real deal it needs its first fan attack
with a knife, for traditions sake
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 No.8239

>>3395
>>3407
>e-celebs wearing an anime girl face are still e-celebs.
this
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 No.8240

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>>8215
>fucker simping for XI over the t word vs other vtuber simps
The whole situation is a battle of simps
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 No.8249

uyghas really getting right-radicalized over streamers.
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 No.8251

>>8249
even worse. a lot are becoming company bootlickers
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 No.8253

>>8251
I hate so much that the hololive board on Futaba is hundreds of times more active than the generic vtuber board. Fucking otaku, man.
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 No.8259

>>8253
are they blaming the CCP
also does futaba have a nijisanji board?
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 No.8267

>>8182
Controversial like what? Hololive members have gotten into controversy multiple times. "Fans" have also done some insane shit.

>>8185
>>8212
Something similar happened last year after a new hololive member, Mao Aloe, leaked her real identity. She and her ex-boyfrend got harassed and after a short while she quit or was fired.

>>8181
I really hope Pekora can avoid this shit. I fucking hate these anti shitheads that harass idols. The fact such a small minority of people can ruin an idol's career is fucked. As much money as the fuckers at Hololive make they should be doing more to protect their talent.

>>8217
It sucks. She was probably my favorite and now she has her hands tied in combination with whatever personal issues she is having.
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 No.8270

>>8267
vtubers saying swear words is not controversial
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 No.8282

>>8270
saying the N word is controversial
doing un-idol shit in general is controversial since the holos are marketed as idols
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 No.8283

>>8282
wtf is the idol industry?
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 No.8284

We have to remember these are human beings behind this whole thing. This idol culture crap is insane and it is preferable if it was done by the full ownership of the person “selling” themselves, because this corporate shit is insane.

What is so hilarious though is that these losers got what was coming to them, not the idols, but the fans who were simping a corporation and got fucked in the when this corporation does corporate shit. It only reveals the “fandom” for the bankruptcy that they are. Man how I would love to kick one of those losers until they are convulsing on the ground. It would get off on beating those corporate bootlickers. What is funny is that they dehumanize the idols more than the corporations do by going to war about some country and shit, it’s hilariously insane.
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 No.8340

>>8270
They got into a lot of controversy because of China related stuff and a couple other things.
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 No.8341

>>8284
I love idol shit, but I've never understood the people that are fans of the corporation too. Like, you can be an idol fan without simping their boss.
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 No.8388

Unrelated to Hololive, but some in /vt/ are having a meltdown because a fairly well-known indy watched left-related shit during an Q&A, is pro Palestine, spoke positively of Marx and Lenin and talked about how the CIA ruined South America.
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 No.8389

>>8388
so there's at least one good vtuber out there?
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 No.8392

>>8389
Still waiting for the ML propaganda Vtuber
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 No.8393

>>8392
Alunya vtuber when
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 No.8394

>>8388
Name of the vtuber? Sounds based
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 No.8395

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>>8392
Good news
>Early (゚Д゚)ノOn February 24, 1848, The Communist Manifesto, co-authored by Marx and Engels, was first published in London. The Manifesto set forth a new worldview in sharp and thorough language, providing a scientific methodology for understanding the development of human society, contributing to the leap of socialism from the empty to the scientific, and providing a guide to action for the proletarian revolution.
https://t.bilibili.com/495151811596269424?tab=2
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 No.8396

>>8388
based. What’s the name?
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 No.8397

>>8394
>>8396
Futakuchi Mana, a metalhead. Mind you, her content is pretty much 65% shitposting on Youtube, and the rest music and just chatting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6B6UYrxFzE

Starts at around 45 minutes.
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 No.8398

>>8397
Cute avatar
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 No.8399

>>8392
>>8393
>Alunya
>ML propaganda
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 No.8401

>>8397
>metalhead
>left-leaning (leftist?)
sounds based to me
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 No.8408

>>8282
>holos are marketed as idols
was*

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