You are mainly confusing your own depiction of species (obviously influenced by tolkien which is not the only way to describe them of course) with how it is depicted in media we discuss (isekai and other medieval fantasy mangas), so i don't think i will have to respond with specifics here. Though we might as well remember some other authors like Andrzej Sapkowski and his depiction of elven society that culdn't properly coexists with humans and with good reasons why. >Except this can also be done with beastmen and lizardmen…. because "magic" not because they're all that closely related, otherwise they'd literally have to all be Homo Sapiens.
We are talking about biology, right? Biologically most elves, dwarves and beastment (unless going full furry, which is usually avoided in harem isekais except few weird cases) as theyr are portrait in media seems to be just subspiecies of homo sapience. Even without argument about reproduction, they are just not different enough to be called different species. Races probably is appropriate terms for that. In fact that magic argument goes both ways - maybe they are different based on magic not on biology? Though magic would probably be considered a material force there. Unless we are going for some sort of sentient magic force but then we are going into territory of settings which reality is based on idealism. not materialism which makes our discussion pintless.>In shittier dime-a-dozen anime depictions, but generally their cultures seem to differ immensely in depictions that try.
Sure, that's true. Well, we mainly discuss regular isekais here since you are responding to critique of regular tropes in regular isekai. Not some few rare exceptions, though tbh none come to mind where culture would be so radically different that it would prohibit coexistion. Do you have examples?>Because of lazy authors making cheap fantasy and not paying attention
No disagreement here, again, but still that just makes me right in ragards to most isekai fantasies.>As I explained, they're not supposed to be. Living underground mountains and excavating them for a living is completely different from being a forest dweller or a hill-burrowing farmer.
True, but human cultures differed to same degree, don't they? Difference between a nomad and a farmer. Very big, but will go away withing ferw generations of living withing same material conditions. Though the question of course if you could make it last that long.
>From the standpoint of the story itself, these are still separate races and cultures and the problem of allying or making peace between them at a snap of the fingers is laughable in the face of real human-human conflict.
The whole point was in the argument that standpoint of the story where there is no such conflict (as many authors portrait it) there should be from a perspective of our knowledge. It is exactly fromthe point of view of the author and the story that no such conflict exists that you guys found problematic, no?>My point is that the same can be said of humans… yet coexistence among peoples is still shaky despite millennia of progress and effort.
Sure, but we know why, right? not because of some biological differences or some cultural gaps that just can't be breached but because of the class system in our society.
>But thanks for the discussion and you're not incorrect in and of itself regarding most fantasy/isekai anime.
Thanks to you too. It's nice to have a civil discussion once in a while