/anime/ - Anime

>>15933
probably

Holy based, eat the rich.

>>15933
no,but it has another psychotic woman,and stain.

>>15933
No but it has the bunny girl when she was a JK.

>villain bar gets bigger when he says something based
why are villains always the good guys in popculture? i cannot think of a film in which i wouldn't at least partially identify with the villain

>>15988
Because if they arent relatable on some level they aren't very believable as a character. Even in real life it's like this where you practically never see anyone be evil for evil sake and have no tragic backstory on top of it it just doesnt happen.

>>15988
It obviously isn't the case here but it's a good old mass media propaganda trick to show an antagonist have leftish ideals and then commit genocide of whatever out of nowhere.

>>15988
More easily can the antagonists in fiction transgress the hegemonic ideology, and the current hegemonic liberalism of the bourgeoise's system is more and more unpopular for ordinary people; thus it is that, even when radical ideas counter to the status quo are placed into the antagonists' side in popular culture, so that the pretense of "no possible alternative" can be upheld, oftentimes the audience still sympathizes with the supposedly "bad" side instead of the representative of the status quo ideology.

>>15931
Oh wow, this had a great ending, and as a work it is overall much better than MHA. What a pleasant surprise!

>>15986
what is a JK

>>16019
it means female high school student.
the acronym comes from the JK industry,a state of affairs of teenage girls getting paid to be escorts to older (adult) men.

>>16019
joshi (girl) kousei (high schooler, abbrev. from koukousei/高校生)
as the other anon said it originated as a code word used by sex criminals, but it's since become almost completely detached from that context and is normalized to the extent of appearing in ad copy, mainstream media, etc

I liked it, it really is MHA but better

The original pilot idea of Boku No Hero is so much better than the actual serialized manga/anime. Izuku is named Jack, is a salaryman instead of a teenager, and his appearance is a bit more like BNHA's Hitoshi Shinsou and Tetsuo from Akira
https://ww8.myheroacademiaread.com/manga/boku-no-hero-academia-chapter-0-read-online/
https://myheroacademia.fandom.com/wiki/One-Shot
It's kind of more interesting a take than the "hero high-school story Number 23241" That BNHA became.

Haven't been keeping up with chapters lately because
>The State of this manga : absolute.
But just got caught up.
Pic related.

My Hero Academia is the shittiest anime I've ever consumed, really only bested by shit like Chainsaw man or Blue period in the field of how shit an anime/manga/whatever can be. The very first thing they got wrong was giving deku a power, they had a lot of potential to make My Hero really good by exploring how a person without powers can still be a very useful person in a world where most people have powers. They fuck it up by throwing all of this potential out of the window in favor of a retarded flipflop where deku gets a power from the greatest hero for some reason, effectively turning this anime into another retarded copy of every other shounen ever. The next things they get wrong are especially just how fucking retarded class 1A is and how they aren't dead, I have encountered so many instances of the plot where by all means, Class 1A should absolutely lose several people and die off eventually, yet they're still in one piece. Shoto, Iida and Midoriya should have died in Season 2 and the rest of class 1A in season 4 where they fight in the former, against a professional heroic political extremist who is known for raping multiple heroes before (and only loses because of a fucking lung puncture) and the latter, a fucking human trafficking ring where the ringleader can distort all matter to his own will. How the fuck they are still alive and pull all this "wid muh powah of muh frendshit" bs on the villains and somehow win all while having extremely corny endings to the arcs is fucking abysmal.

This anime deserves to be memoryholed forever.

>>16779
and the actual characters themselves should be ground into a powder dust

>>16771
It's become boring skirmishes and stopped having a concrete theme, if it ever had one.

Anime can't even do capeshit right lmao what a crock of shit

>>16771
IS ALL MIGHT STILL ALIVE

>>16866
also i wish it had digital colored variant, i saw the hexel ones, it looks pretty good

at least vigilantes, cause i don't think they're ever getting an anime

>>16866
unfortunately,it's someone else who crooked (and there was also a jobber USA hero with a broken power who appeared and died in the same chapter in order to narratively weaken the villain,because he's overpowered as shit)

>TFW BNHA tried to have Ochaco talk no jutsu Toga in the middle of a fight even as she's supposed to be bleeding out
>Her gravity power now lets her affect anyone within a certain area around her
>The "power of friendship" actually works and their fight is resolved
>Also the Deku/Ochaco ship is confirmed
I don't mind Talk no Jutsu beating a villain in a story, but it has to have a basis of commonality for it to work. Ochaco's sudden need to save Toga comes out of nowhere and it's basically ripped right out of a Naruto fanfiction. Problem is Ochaco's words aren't convincing because it boils down to
>"My family is poor and that made them sad so I decided to become rich to make them happy, and so through the work of being a hero and hero work made me realize that I should bring happiness to others too because Deku inspired me"
Not a bad sentiment, but
A) She's using it to try and relate to a person that suffered far more and has a completely different mindset
B) WHY is Ochaco suddenly telling Toga this? She has been given little to no reason to sympathize or empathize with Himiko, so where is this coming from?
In Naruto Talk no Jutsu came from Naruto learning about his opponent and finding reflections of himself in them, letting him connect through empathy and use words to change them after being them in a fight usually. But for this to happen he has to know and understand his enemy, that's why his physical victory against Pain was not really a victory of his ideals, as it took him facing Nagato directly and learning his story to truly defeat him.

Even putting aside that Ochaco doesn't know Toga outside of her being a reoccurring threat to her and Deku, Toga is completely different to her. She has a biological craving for blood like other organisms need food, her almost addict relationship to blood literally causes her to psychologically form bonds and "love" the beings the blood she takes it from, man, woman or animal. This is obviously disconcerting to people and her entire childhood was spent being the cause of fear and disgust. Her being a villain liberated her to do as she desired, love as she desired, consume as she desired, but truly she desires acceptance, to be loved in return, to not be shunned and ostracized. But that's why she's insane. She kills and maims and almost nobody knows her background, so when someone like Ochaco faces her, all they see is a strange psychopath and only an idealistic fictional hero like Deku or Naruto or whoever would try to redeem her, as they embody the ideal of a hero that never gives up and wants to save everyone. Ochaco is not that character, she doesn't have the charisma or idealism or presence to justify it and so it falls flat, because the reader's suspension of disbelief isn't that high for her as it would be for say, Deku, to have tried to talk her down, since his embodiment of True Heroism means that we can suspend our disbelief that he would try to redeem someone that by all reasonable metrics is too far gone.

This was supposed to be a short post but it just grew into a rant, The War Arc is just garbage writing.

>>20542
me in the middle

>>20543
I prefer Froppy desu. Cute, cool animal powers, has a blunt, direct personality and isn't crazy.

>>20542
> Toga is completely different to her. She has a biological craving for blood like other organisms need food,
I thought she just killed and drank peoples blood because she like it
Where did this biological need for blood come from?

Lack of desire to expand the world and setting made it boring. Like how would economies work, how would militaries work in a world with super people and why is every single important person from Japan?

>>20882
>I thought she just killed and drank peoples blood because she like it
>Where did this biological need for blood come from?
It's a side-effect of her quirk. Essentially her need for blood is inherent, and without it she gets nutty, like a drug addict without a dose.

>>20884
The answer to all of these is: brainless superhero action, they didn't even try to think this through unless it had some plot relevance.

>>20884
that's what bothers me about jujutsu kaisen tbh

>>20884
these are questions that honestly no superhero or many media with super people ever exposes.
in fact there are very few "Hero for us, villain for them" character or situations in any of these medias because you can bet if Cuba or DPRK gets the superman he is not gonna be treated as a hero.

>>20904
What is jjk like? Is it any good and does it suffer from the Japan centrism.

>>20905
I have noticed that even when media does something with the idea of a “bad” country having superheroes they are always done in a propagandistic way, like how in worm(spoilers!). the Chinese superheroes are evil and brainwashed.

>>20904
It's part of why Jujutsu lost some popularity after initial hype, it failed to world build enough, it could have been the next Bleach, just like Black Clover sort of became the closest thing to a current Naruto.

>>20905
>no superhero or many media with super people ever exposes.
Well there are some anime and obscure comics that explore this, but they're very far and few between… part of the reason is because frankly superhero writers want cool people with cool powers in a world like ours, ignoring that a world of cool powers would lead to very different material developments, partially because that's rather boring for an action story.
>there are very few "Hero for us, villain for them" character or situations
There are a few, particularly back during the Cold War, where Soviet and Chinese antagonists had supervillains that were heroes to their country. Superman Red Son is a direct example of this even if it's a pretty lib-take on communists.

>>20911
You could say they have anticommunist brainWorm

>>20910
It's alright. It's like Bleach + Hunter X Hunter but urban setting. Feels less cliche somehow despite all story arcs and characters being very archetypical. A lot of character deaths and emotional tragedy unresolved, often feels high stakes, and kind of gloomy compared to other big WSJ battle manga. I recommend finishing Vs. Mahito arc before droping because it's a rough start for some people (personally I was hooked from episode 3 onwards).
Mentor figure has revolutionary ideals (against the bureaucrats of the secret society, called "higher-ups"). Endgame of one of the heroines is getting rid of a problem at a systemic level and she is shunned for it by said conservative higher-ups. Main villain is an idealist liberal turned fascist supremacist. A whole clan of reactionaries gets unapolotegically murdered and the story presents it as a good thing. Gigachad has a transgender girlfriend. Women are actual characters even if main conflict centers around the men. There's a chapter about criminal justice hating poor people. No royalty/nobility wank, though there's a lot of muh inherited superpowers from special family.
Religious organizations, inflexible old people, traditionalist conservatives, wageslaving, are all depicted as bad/evil. American military is mocked and humiliated in a recent story arc.

>>20918
Forget to mention that main character is a collectivist, in a sense of "I'm not special, I'm part of something larger and it's important for all of us that we fulfill our functions". Another character confronts this, mistaking him for a spooked moralist, only to later realize his devotion is genuine and coming to respect him.

>>20910
I've only watched the anime, but it's good/10. To me if you stop to think about it very much it starts to fall apart, but otherwise it's enjoyable

>why is there an ancient evil relic in a locker by a school if cursed objects attract curses and that's bad
>if curses are a fact of life then why does no one seem to know about them
>how can they maintain the masquerade when all kinds of impossible shit regularly happens
>what is happening elsewhere in the world if curses are a fact of life, like, where are the American sorcerers, or the Chinese, or whatever
>if curses are state knowledge then why isn't it being weaponized when curse wielding individuals can do shit like stop time, travel to other dimensions, etc
>why is this activity that is essential to protecting society at large and particularly the state being left to teenagers who have a ridiculously high attrition rate
>if bad feelings create curses why don't good feelings do anything
>if bad feelings like those that arise from the consequences of living under capitalism (poverty, hunger, stress from competition and precarity,etc) cause curses, then shouldn't social policies which alleviate these things have a direct effect on the curse population
>why is the first thing the antagonist thinks of to kill all normies in order to make a world of only sorcerers instead of achieving communism in order to drastically reduce the level of curses

Imo Chainsaw man handles it better. Maybe this stuff is explained in the manga, but being an anime onlyfag I don't know.

>>20920
>why is there an ancient evil relic in a locker by a school if cursed objects attract curses and that's bad
There is a reason for this but it isn't explicitly stated and the anime portion of the story doesn't give enough context as to why.
>if curses are a fact of life then why does no one seem to know about them
It's roughly the same as real life in Japan: plenty of people claim to have seen spirits once of twice during their lifetime. Curses in JJK aren't common, and there's urgency in exorcising them. Some normies do know about curses, however. The government knows about curses and Jujutsu society, there are laws regarding this.
>how can they maintain the masquerade when all kinds of impossible shit regularly happens
They don't regularly happen, but when they do happen, veil techniques are employed.
>what is happening elsewhere in the world if curses are a fact of life, like, where are the American sorcerers, or the Chinese, or whatever
This seems to be an important plot point currently in the manga.
>if curses are state knowledge then why isn't it being weaponized when curse wielding individuals can do shit like stop time, travel to other dimensions, etc
This seems to be an important plot point currently in the manga.
>why is this activity that is essential to protecting society at large and particularly the state being left to teenagers who have a ridiculously high attrition rate
Most sorcerers are adults. Jujutsu society is not limited to Jujutsu Tech, and most sorcerers are trained within their own clans instead of Jujutsu Tech. Fushiguro implies that age is not a determining factor as to whether you can join Jujutsu Tech, but they seem to need you to be at least in your late teens.
>if bad feelings create curses why don't good feelings do anything
We still don't know much about cursed energy, there's a lot the author is leaving as a mystery. Positive energy exists, but it is not born out of positive feelings.
>if bad feelings like those that arise from the consequences of living under capitalism (poverty, hunger, stress from competition and precarity,etc) cause curses, then shouldn't social policies which alleviate these things have a direct effect on the curse population
Sure, but porky doesn't want that.
>why is the first thing the antagonist thinks of to kill all normies in order to make a world of only sorcerers instead of achieving communism in order to drastically reduce the level of curses
Getou didn't care about the well being of society, he hated normies and didn't want to eat pokeballs to protect them. Eliminating curses is cool and all, but better yet to kill the "ugly weak".

>>20918
>>20920
>>20924
>Out of the BNHA thread for a while
>miss all these effortposts
Nice read.

>Stop reading BnHA for the past year
>Pick up a random chapter from the past 10 or so
>shit's fucking incomprehensible speed lines and characters saying the most stereotypical shonen phrases
Can anyone explain to me what the fucks going on in the story at this point? Is there even a comprehensive story anymore?

>>22051
It’s ending in the most generic way possible. Tbh it was apparent that it was shit from the start, author added too many characters most of whom suck and have barely anything interesting going on, he also gives these characters too much attention, not enough to make them interesting, but enough to have them taking screen time from actual characters. What a waste of setting and designs. A competent writer would have created something perfect with this material. Also why the fuck did author decide to give mc a generic fisting ability lmao.

>>16091
MHA Vigilantes did the whole superhero thing better than the main series. Really enjoyed the ride.

>>20924
>There is a reason for this but it isn't explicitly stated and the anime portion of the story doesn't give enough context as to why.
Then it sucks.
>It's roughly the same as real life in Japan: plenty of people claim to have seen spirits once of twice during their lifetime. Curses in JJK aren't common, and there's urgency in exorcising them. Some normies do know about curses, however. The government knows about curses and Jujutsu society, there are laws regarding this.
That's retarded and doesn't make any sense. That's like the US having laws about the mothman or bigfoot.
>They don't regularly happen, but when they do happen, veil techniques are employed.
They're happening all the time. We see them happening and they're really frequent.
>Most sorcerers are adults.
The ones lucky enough to survive that long I guess. They're constantly going on about how short handed they are, short handed enough to send teenagers into life or death situations, which often results in their deaths.

Fuck, I don't think these kids are even being paid.
>We still don't know much about cursed energy, there's a lot the author is leaving as a mystery.
Even to himself I bet.
>Positive energy exists, but it is not born out of positive feelings.
Possibly retarded.
>Sure, but porky doesn't want that.
Except now we're in a world where collective negative feelings create literal demons. Factories and offices should be veritable demon factories and capital shouldn't be able to function like it does.
>Getou didn't care about the well being of society, he hated normies and didn't want to eat pokeballs to protect them. Eliminating curses is cool and all, but better yet to kill the "ugly weak".
Come to think of it why isn't the Japanese government keeping tabs on this and every other incredibly dangerous individual that goes to Jujutsu Tech. There should be eyes on these people 24/7, especially when they leave demon killing school to start a genocidal cult.

I think the prosthetics make Mirko look even cooler than she already does and gives her a distinct appearance. I'm surprised that there's so little new fan-art of her post-war physique compared to her debut look, even though it's been some time since its reveal.

>>22081
>but enough to have them taking screen time from actual characters
The problem is all the main characters in this series are such a two dimensional bores with no character arcs. Seriously, has any of the main characters (on the hero side) undergone any transformation since the beginning of the series? Closes thing I can think of is Endevor, and in his case its less of a character growth and more retcon.

>>23038
BUNNIES
ARE
FOR
B R E E D I N G

>>22086
>That's retarded and doesn't make any sense. That's like the US having laws about the mothman or bigfoot.
You forget how culturally backwards Japan really is. I'm not even surprised.

>>23054
They do change. But mostly it’s related to the way they fight, ice and fire guy didn’t use his fire side until mc forced him to accept his fire ability, mc started using less fists and more kicks etc. Most changes and developments are battle related. Also I still don’t understand how people somehow have gaslighted themselves into thinking that Endeavor’s family reconciling was well written? I personally couldn’t ever forgive someone as shitty as Endeavor.

>>22086
>>23062
>That's like the US having laws about the mothman or bigfoot.
I mean there are some state laws about various supernatural things including bigfoot, I wouldn't be surprised if the same applies to Japan. Japan also had laws/rules in the past referring to spirits and deities, thus the rules about visiting shrines, such as walking to the side and never at the middle, or bowing before entering under a torii gate. It is no longer under specific laws, but that's because in the modern day the supernatural is not taken under consideration as seriously. In the world of JJK, where there is a more significant, evident presence, specific laws would make sense.

https://gizmodo.com/10-real-life-laws-that-regulate-the-supernatural-world-1589363378

I finally realized what annoys me about Deku being such a cry-baby throughout the story… and I came to the realization while I was rewatching Neon Genesis Evangelion and seeing Shinji. Shinji was a deconstruction of Mecha-pilots and child-soldiers as well as the over-arching theme of the Hedgehog's Dilemma through his abandonment issues with his father and in part his mother. This is demonstrated in his timid nature and lack of typical rowdy teen-boy behavior. His struggle between his urge to run away and the need to stand and fight is an overarching one.

Deku is similarly timid and withdrawn, like Shinji he doesn't stand up for himself… but the reasoning is pretty lame - "Oh I don't have special powers, even though I have a loving caring mother and live safely with food on the table, a home to live in" etc. Now in a less apocalyptic setting like BnHA that's okay, it's a real issue people even have today; an alienation brought about by the capitalist system. Hell even his urge to be heroic in spite of his weakness is admirable even. However the problem comes from his lack of real change as a character. Shinji's character progressive and regressing as the story went on was because of how deadly and fucked up his situation was and how that impacted his genuinely traumatized psyche. Deku, while bullied quickly found comrades when he was given the chance to become a hero through a granted power, the further we go through the story the more support he gets so his character logically should progress positively. Yet we still don't see him stop being a cry-baby in spite of being validated and having non-toxic relationships with real friends. He doesn't struggle in being motivated to be a hero, when in tough situations, but somehow lacks spine outside of this. He continually fails to confront Bakugou's toxicity, which would be fine if it had consequences, such as Katsuki actually doing something villainous or hurting people with his attitude, but that never comes into play, it's barely touched upon in the early arcs and is mostly laughed away.

It pisses me off because it's a dysfunctional set-up - we have a Naruto-esque zero-hero set-up with a dark-horse rival and escalating danger, but his attitude fails to live up to it, and the story itself fails to follow up on what it sets up, instead skipping into the Villains and the tragedy of Hero society and its perpetuation of violence, discrimination and other issues that create Villains to begin with. While that (Villain) plot is certainly something to explore, Deku himself doesn't fit, his vigilante turn amidst the War Arc also contradicts his soft character and prior motivations and ideals.

TL;DR: Deku's character development fails and he seems to pendelum swing between a Naruto type characterization to a Shinjiesque one and back again, despite story progression indicating that he should leave the latter characterization behind. In other words it's like throwing Shinji-lite into a Naruto-type Main Character role, but failing to capitalize on the rival subplot and so on.