/jp/ , Otaku and weeb thread.
This thread is to talk about things on Japanese culture, and the good and bad of it
277 posts and 95 image replies omitted.>>10614 Speaking of Edo Japan
>>>/edu/1855 is the Samurai/Japan thread so feel free to explore this, it's got a lot of effort posts on the subject.
An issue that rarely gets talked about in relation to /jp/ is Toyoko Kids. It seems to be a replacement for Delinquent and Sukeban subculture (
>>7655 ), although much less flashy and 'cool' looking. I think it's a reflection of Japan's repressive capitalism that seeks to hide everything that appears bad while refusing to fix endemic issues.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/02/05/japan/society/toyoko-kids-tokyo-subculture/In case of Embed Death
>>21579 >Japan's Ridiculous Weatherwoman Fiasco >Japanalysis <"Hiyama Saya experienced massive blowback last month after a major revelation" TL;DR: Cute weather woman who played a single, young girl as a role for her job got idolized by Japanese men. When she was revealed to have a relationship and a personal life, immediately was attacked by these incels for ruining the immersion of their escapist obsession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7QG9owYEUY >>22738mp4 file 1
>>22814 >Japanese Fans FURIOUS About Woke Translators Ruining Their Animes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5coh8UoYqvA >>23222>nagashi soumen, which is like, ramen sliding down a half bamboo with a gentle stream of water pushing it along.>222What cursed trips, the fuck?
<[Eng sub on] Extremely Fast Nagashi Soumen >つかれた犬のアニメ>>23957>Several things mark out the Toyoko Kids as being different to the homeless people who have historically occupied the area. For one, they’re much younger. And secondly, contrary to popular belief, they’re not all homeless — while some are, others who are from Tokyo, Chiba or Saitama prefectures go back home after staying in the area for a long time to escape their home environment.>>Then there is the fashion: For girls, there is the “dark kawaii” aesthetic of frilly blouses and short skirts or oversized hoodies with anime-style makeup, and for boys an emo-influenced look of black, baggy clothes with dangling chains. The overall style has been dubbed “jirai-kei” (literally “landmine type”).>>Toyoko Kids have also become influencers and fashion icons on TikTok, X and other social media platforms, further drawing neglected youths to the area — for example, those being abused at home or bullied at school. Hierarchies partially linked to social media clout exist within the community, with individuals given titles like “God,” “King” and “Empress” depending on their popularity and influence in the area.Wait,
that's where jirai-kei allegedly (hadn't bothered to research yet) comes from???
Also:
>“Someone will offer them a place to stay, with one person booking a single bedroom[…] and smuggling around six people in one room,[…]But[…], they would eventually have to pay for their share too and so they have to go ‘work’ — as in street prostitution.”Yooo what the fuck? And society is okay with this?!?
That's like the-real-shit sort of lumpenproletarian activity, not merely delinquent/sukeban behavior, which is much more petty with its orientation and is fairly tempered in the actual level of "criminal" activity involved.
>>14984 >>14983 >>14981 This conversation was revived recently on /siberia/ so I'm reposting an amalgamation of the best takes plus my own.
>What's up with chinlets doing this "we wuz annie may n sheiiit" stuff?Main character syndrome but on a “racial basis”, as in
<thing non-european is popular… so it must be because the cartoon characters are secretly white with their aryan features like blue hair and gigantic eyesThen comes the question why darker skinned anime character still have the same gigantic eyes and non-natural hair colors and the cope goes into overdrive. Plus most characters in anime are either black-haired youths or otherwise have distinct hair that isn't just blonde aryan. Many Japanese anime make fun of that actually or have them as antagonists, or both; for example, Riser Phoenix in High School DxD is an asshole antagonist, Darkness from Konosuba is a fucking masochistic joke and Dragon Ball's General Blue is both an antagonist and a source of some humor. Ironically the character of Naruto and Edward Elric are among the few mainstream anime characters that most casual anime viewers know of and who are blonde and blue-eyed. Luffy and Goku are black haired with black irises and Ichigo was ginger with brown eyes.
There are exceptions to this, but generally that's in older anime or anime that has a style of more normal (or excessive) proportions, such as Ninja Scroll, Naruto or One Piece. The First is pretty realistic in physical depictions, with the only grotesqueness being characters that are obviously abnormal monstrous humans. Naruto has fairly normal proportions of the body, so Black people from The Hidden Cloud such as the Raikage are fairly normal humans but still obviously black. One Piece has a massive variety of absurd character designs, (like tiny legs for massive bodies or weird faces or whatever) so it obviously breaks the mold here.
Frankly speaking however it's just a massive, *Disney type exaggeration of traditional conceptions of young female beauty; big eyes, smol nose, round yet shapely face etc. It got so exaggerated at times that it became a common meme among weebs since at least the early 2000s about "animu face" wherein the eyes were so large that it was like a Roswell Gray alien's head. Only terminally online escapists actually associate this with real women.
Japanese people aren't clones of each other and there is some variation in appearance within their population. And like pretty much everywhere, most artists draw character who match some beauty standards rather than ugly people.
*Osamu Tezuka loved Carl Barks' works making the Donald Duck comics, having been introduced to them as a child by a US soldier after the end of WW-II. He even sent cards of thanks for the former. So in essence the big-eye anime style was originally an emulation of early Disney style, and later it came around full circle in the early 2000s when Western cartoons like ATLA or Ben 10 began to emulate the big eye Japanimation style. Ironically during the 80s and 90s both Japan and the USA focused on smaller-eyed characters, which is why characters like She-Ra (She-Ra) and Yuria (Fist of the North-Star) have fairly normal looking faces.
As a side note modern Disney-face edits with more 'normal' eyes:
https://www.eonline.com/news/663484/here-s-what-disney-princesses-would-look-like-with-realistic-eyes >>24644 >44Checked Addendum about Self hating japs (pic 1 rel)
>Wide nose Japanese>Eyes extremely far apart>Purposefully slouched over with wide waist and malformed/bowed legs>Eyes placed too high up on the face compared to real life >Ears placed too high >Head deliberately squashed to look oblong>Shorter height despite it supposed to be a 1:1 comparison This is what Japancel otaku escapists actually believe.
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Damn, those are some solid dubs for a pretty decent post. nicu.
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