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 No.4715[View All]

/jp/ , Otaku and weeb thread.

This thread is to talk about things on Japanese culture, and the good and bad of it
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 No.8230

>>8227
ah yes. Red humans with horns, much better

 No.8231

>>8230
You forgot to post furshit with your post.

 No.8232

>>8226
this ones bland af
just like fate in general tbhbrocialismBrocialism

 No.8255

>>8232
I agree with the fact that fate is a very bland series, but I think Raita's characters are well designed even if his style can be off-putting.
>>8227
Don't be pedant.

 No.8266

>>8232
I liked the VN and some of the anime, but I lost interest after trying to get into the other stuff. There is way too much fucking fate shit.

 No.8272

Japanese culture wouldn't be so reactionary if it weren't for Western influence.

 No.8274

>>8272
Well, they wouldn't be like this if they had surrendered to the USSR instead of the USA.

 No.8382

If only the Soviets had taken Japan though.
They'd have a major advantage in Korea, and obviously so would China.
There'd be a more powerful red bloc in the East.
The war in Vietnam would've been more difficult to prosecute and the Communists there'd have an easier time.

 No.8732

Orientalism Thread >>7763

School Theme Thread >>7837

 No.8935

How badly did the violent activities of the Japanese New Left scare people and set the Left back?albaniaAlbania

 No.8938

>>7887
That is quite the contrast.

 No.8953

>>8382
That's why the Atom Bombs dropped.

 No.8954

>>8227
>Based Oni lovers
yes yes yes yes

 No.9029

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 No.9035

>>9029
>lib Japan trying to show the world that they're not racist anymore and that they're cool like other first world countries, despite their still horrible treatment of foreigners and their own workers, and their other, numerous problems
<WTF JAPAN I THOUGHT YOU WERE LE BASED RACIALLY HOMOGENEOUS TRAD ANIME EMPIRE!! I'M NOT GOING THERE ANYMORE, YOU'VE BEEN TAINTED BY UYGHURS!!
No one can possibly be this stupid, those have to be bots

 No.9036


 No.9038

>>9035
>No one can possibly be this stupid, those have to be bots
You'd be surprised how many people believe Japan is le based ethnostate when it's a giant aircraft carrier for the US, completely subservient to the needs of their master.
Or how the easily ignore how Abe made it possible to import cheap labour from SEA while the JCP opposed it.

 No.9041

>>9036
My dude, leftyweebpol's content on wayback has been posted here many times, thanks tho.

 No.9050

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 No.9051

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burkina_fasoBurkina Faso

 No.9053

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 No.9061

>>9050
kek I'd been thinking about these "incidents" lately
Hetafags are insufferably retarded even to this day, it's like they are incapable of seeing the implications of what they do and say and watch.

 No.9069

>>9053
>>9050
>>9051
Hetalia is cringe and always has been,

 No.9074

>>9069
I still like some of the characters tho
There's not enough USSR/communist fanart

 No.9082

>>9074
They're mostly pretty-boys and it feels like a really gay roleplay.

 No.9105

>>9082
>mostly pretty boys
Which is why I like them
Also because I'm still a bit attached to them due to nostalgia

 No.9115

So supposedly these BHs aren't "Marxist", but they do use "dialectical materialism". https://nitter.42l.fr/BlkHmmrTimes/status/1419321578500894720#m

And recently have harassed, in the typical BH autism, the PSL about their activities at events for Cuban socialism, even though both support Cuba.

Also, there are some extremely shitty takes on Helen Keller from BH.

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 No.9184

>>9115
>booktrap
accurate, Sakaists and other such retards are cancer who want black ethno-nationalism but trying justify it as "anti-colonialism"

>>9181
>gender ideology
<if the parents know the baby to be male, they are more likely to ascribe the kicking to the fact that the child is male and therefore assumed to be more physically active by nature
Yep, this is radlib trash that will be yet another excuse to abuse children under the guise of "gender identity" positivity. All this based on tangential anecdotes, badly done "studies" and a clearly reek of sex-obsessed ideology projected onto ill people and children supposedly based on what moeshit anime promote in the capitalist market. It's just such a cart of scummy manipulative opinion that just thinking of how wrong it is raises red flags.
>inb4 why/explain/'no-argument"
This is the kind of longwinded, rainbow capitalist radlib twaddle that would take longer to debunk in sufficient detail than the actual article itself, and nobody is going to read that.

 No.9272


 No.9312

bolshevikBolshevik

 No.9329

>>9272
What was the pic and what is the relevance?

 No.9502

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/01/16/anim-j16.html

>Magia Record, Kakushigoto, Fruits Basket and Sword Art Online: A general review of anime in 2020


>Anime is an immensely popular entertainment and art global medium, particularly among young people. It is one, however, to which socialist criticism or general sociological criticism is never (at least consistently) applied. There are millions of texts, blogs and words devoted to comparing one anime with another, but this is almost always done from a fairly superficial or purely personal standpoint rather than one that contextualizes the medium politically and historically.


>We are writing about anime to encourage audiences who, at this point, tend to accept the material that passes before their eyes rather uncritically from a social point of view to begin demanding more substantial work. We live in acutely tense and complex times, and the generalities and banalities that anime has thrived on to this point are wholly inadequate.


>Here, therefore, is a review of a selection of anime that aired throughout 2020 with an eye on different genres, source materials and studios as well as popularity and, admittedly, the author’s own personal interests.

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>>9502
Based

 No.10486

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>How did burgers go from calling Japanese people slant-eyed Tojo Japs 80 years ago to claiming them as whites now?
A large portion of East Asian Americans have successfully entered the middle class and have attained some form of higher education thus raising a generation of well-mannered and educated Asians who behave and speak in a way typical of whites, and since in America white people (and Jews) have historically been the only people to have been part of the middle class and higher until the mid to late 20th century middle class status and manners have come to be associated with whiteness and this has been the rock on which white supremacist ideology was founded.
It's interesting to note that the designation of Asian people as "white" came in successive waves of immigration over the decades, first it was the Japanese as they were the closest culturally to the west, then after the Korean War Korean immigration ticked up considerably and now even Chinese people have started to be considered the same as their other Japanese and Korean brethren when historically they were considered the lowest of Asian people although this is still not as uniform as it is with other Asians, not to mention that even many Indochinese people have also attained the same status. You can also see this starting to happen with even some Latino people considering themselves white, and to a much lesser extent with some black people adopting white mannerisms much more recently as many more black people have started to enter the middle class comfortably.

So tl;dr: Being "white" in America is short for being comfortably part of the middle and upper class.

 No.10487

>>10486
About the black people thing, I've noticed that a lot of them are now eating seafood, the ultimate white people food.

 No.10538

>>10486
On the topic of weebshit and /pol/ >>10491

 No.10547

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>>10538
I'm a way too old otaku who's always been into a lot of underground Japanese subculture shit thanks to learning the language but even I have to be amazed at the sort of shallow orientalism that's going on on imageboards, like cumming at sakura trees, larping as an imperialist or making Japan seem as the last trad ethnostate (it really isn't), or more recently and what prompted me to make this thread, someone posting a picture of their room with a huge ass poster of Tokyo's subway map. Like really? What's the appeal of that? Sure, he might have been a train otaku, but nothing else in the picture indicated that.

To sum it up, fuck orientalism.

 No.10550

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>>10486
Where did that misconception of Japan being trad come from? They're just as degenerate as Americans and just as spergy. They have traditions that are only traditions of habit now it seems. They're an isolated nation we must remember.
I think it's funny because Japan's values are the exact opposite of American's ones.
>One of the strictiest gun laws in the world
>Nanny state - fining people for not strictly following the rules and using an ironically informal blacklist for individuals that do not follow them, mirroring China's Social Credit Score.
>Not individualist at all
>Merit doesn't really matter
>Religion is a private matter instead of being shoved down your throat
>Public shaming keeps freedom of speech in check
>No freedom to criticize the government
And so on, but looks like burgers are willing to trade their "values" in exchange of having less commies (read: liberals) around them.
<well you see, the japs are submissive and they are well behaved and cultured and maintain their traditions so they don’t need guns to defend themselves!
Japanese people used to be cool and rebellious back in the 60s-80s, but modern nips are effectively domesticated and brainwashed by their ideological state apparatus. There's a reason why leftism is a pretty fringe thing in Japan. This is very much evident in anime or manga too. Japan's definitely not like some rightoid's wet dream, but it also lacks people and movements that want to change the system for the better along progressive leftist lines. Japan's just filled with confused youth who aren't critically well-equipped to denigrate the current system because no one in Japan guides them towards leftist philosophies. So all they do is rationalize their just anxieties as personality flaws and try to "come of age", which basically means to fit in and look the part (the recent Evangelion 4.0 conclusion is a good example >>9774 ).
Call this perhaps Nazbol, but there is something tragic about how Japanese culture has been majorly cucked by modernity and imperialism, sort of like how the Korean used in the DPRK and the southern entity have become at times unintelligible to each other, so some say.

 No.10551

>>10547
>>10550
>>10486
>[foolish] samurai
On the topic of Jap Otaku LARP >>>/edu/1855

 No.10610

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>>10550
>>10551
>but there is something tragic about how Japanese culture has been majorly cucked by modernity and imperialism
I mean they wholesale rejected their culture in a feverish drive to modernize themselves as fast as possible during Meiji era. Yet another impact of Zaibatsu policies.
<Nevertheless, after the Meiji Restoration of 1868, governmental policies of modernization and westernization dictated a wholesale rejection of the preceding feudal era. Even the best elements of Edo-period culture were deemed outdated and vulgar and were thought to require prompt and thorough extirpation.
<When, for example, a school of fine arts was founded in Tokyo’s Ueno Park during the Meiji period, the Japanese government established a department of Western music but made no provisions for the study of traditional Japanese music. Today hardly anyone would agree with this policy, but it took many years before Japanese traditional music began to be regarded as equal in value to Western music. And it was not until after World War II that Japanese music was made part of the official public school curriculum.
Another big example of this is the creation of state Shinto. Before that Shinto and Buddhism were so intertwined it was to distinguish what was Shinto and what was Buddhist, given how many Shinto sanctuaries and Buddhist temples were built near each other and were supposed to "help" each other. For example, the monks prayed to make the kami residing in the sanctuary attached to their temple to convert it to Buddhism. Then the Meiji government made up state Shinto, forced the separation of Buddhism and Shinto and uniformed Shinto practices throughout the country, this way countless of actually traditional Shinto practices got lost forever.

 No.10614

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>>10610
This is not to say that old Edo Japan is better for the average person over all.
>Samurai were abolished of their special privilege as a feudal class. The Samurai were pretty much permitted to rape and murder whoever they wanted prior the the Meiji Reforms. Random laymen could be stopped and murdered in spontaneity if the Samurai wanted and no consequences would follow. For example, there is a practice known as Tsujigiri in which Samurai would test their new blade(s) on an unfortunate civilian. In other words, the Samurai pretty much had 100% impunity from any crime (against peasants) any ancient civilized society would deem depraved.
>The Samurai were not noble compassionate super-warriors like they were shown on TV and Japanese Imperial Era bastardized Bushido. Instead, they were an extremely oppressive class of nobles who exacted intense suffering onto those below them with virtually no consequences. The only real “traditional Samurai spirit” one can see in the actions of the Imperial Japanese were their absolute brutality fueled by unbridled hubris. Samurai in the warring states period always switches allegiances and surrenders were a totally acceptable outcome. It’s only when the Imperial Japanese needed to impress the Westerners and convince the West of their civility that they began spinning and bastardizing the Samurai narrative to fit the rose-tint lenses of the Western perspective.
The Meiji Restoration brought a transition to capitalism and so advanced social rights and other aspects from the feudal oppression. It's something that Rounin Kenshin goes into a bit.

https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/barker-c/1982/meiji/index.html
Why the shogunate did not get overthrown prior to the 1860s https://archive.ph/HN5lW
The Last Samurai from cinematographic perspective https://archive.ph/q55fB Historical Accuracy https://archive.ph/mU5EY

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>>10610
>>10614
>The Last Samurai
On the subject of Samurai, Bushido and the fantasy of noble warriors, the article below goes into Ghost of Tsushima and how, while it attempts to use the aesthetics of Kurosawa, it completely misses the mark on his films and their meanings and like many other typical samurai media like Last Samurai makes them into heroic legends. That said the game is apparently very high quality and a well-written fantasy.
https://archive.ph/3dqrz

 No.10820

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>>9029
That looks like Rin Nohara, a /pol/ favorite, LMAO

 No.10869

>>8226
>those horns
god that's terrible, looks like some pulsating turgid tumor on the pics brow

 No.10889

Why is it that most otaku these days are right wingers? Otaku culture used to be leftist back in 20th century.

 No.10890

>>10889
because the left (and right wing progressives like left wing liberals) abandoned anime spaces and comunities and really just shit on them everytime and never want to be associated with them, same thing with gaming, tough in gaming our presence is very thin,but it still marginal.

 No.10891

>>10889
You should meet more people.

 No.10892

>>10889
See >>10491 and the assorted thread replies

 No.10911

>>10889
Chan culture influence


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