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And wow, I fucking hated it to be perfectly honest. It seems like the entire show is only about Shinji's angst (and Rei increasingly I'm sure) and the characters various emotional issues, but like, okay, who cares? The situations they're thrown into are totally absurd and ridiculous so how can I take any of this drama stuff seriously?
Like these kids are the last best hope of mankind and they seem to be totally unsupported by anyone? Shinji was gonna live in a totally empty tenement and it's only his superior's minor moment of reasonable judgement that means he lives with her instead (and she is clearly no kind of parent figure), and Rei lives in a dark, dingy slum dwelling made of all concrete with nobody taking care of her either?
Like, their emotional reactions seems somewhat understandable but also completely dull and uninteresting because the situation they're in is absurd (and even then they both come off as pathetic and unlikeable - and no you can't say 'but that's the point!!', that doesn't make it entertaining to watch).
The less said about the non-angst portions of the story the better, the 'fights' are 10 minutes of foreplay for like 60 seconds of action if that, and while that's a common problem with anime, that doesn't make it excusable.
Yes this series is old and I'm sure it has inspired so much but people still recommend to watch it and it just seemed like garbage. Almost nothing is explained which means I can't possibly feel invested in this absurd world in any way. Every part of the setting seems to have been created with 'style over substance' in mind, urgh, just overall I found it absurd. Try not to give too much spoilers because I guess I might still try watch it, but I really don't see it redeeming itself.
Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian.
Soooo did the last movie make the Rebuilds canon to the original series or not?
I mean kind of? But since it's such a lazy attempt at "le meta looper" meme I don't think of it that way.
just watched 2.0, i love evangelion so much bros
none of this shit makes sense
Did you like 2.0 for being nonsensical or dislike it for being so because you like NGE?
i love it, i think the jank is part of the fun when it comes to nge
Ah. I liked the first 2 rebuilds decently enough, they didn't do too much stupid shit and pulled off some stuff, but it's the content after that pissed me off for being too inane to sit through.
I'd say 1-I dunno half way, before they ran out of budget and behind schedule were good. When it started being student film art school nonsense is when I started not feeling it.
Like literally they had to change the show half way through because they didn't have enough time or money to animate it anymore. Ok I looked it up. It was episode 16 where they ran out of time and money and started winging it.
is this another butthurt "why shinji just doesn't fuck every girl" episode?
He should have pounded at least Misato's mound
That would make Misato a pedophile
It's the end of the world, I think that's the least of Misato's problems.
There is a short 1980 soviet cartoon called "Returning" (rus. "Возвращение") A lot of the imagery is similar to that of Evangelion. Not really surprising since a lot of the old guard Japanese animators and cinematographers studied soviet cinema and animation.
More on it https://daily.afisha.ru/news/67844-v-sovetskoy-rossii-eva-zalezaet-v-sindzi-na-reddit-nashli-proobraz-evangeliona-iz-sssr/
Link to the short https://www.animatsiya.net/film.php?filmid=572
Ever notice how they keep changing their minds on how redeemable Shinji is supposed to be every time they have to come up with an ending
>TV: look this kid just needs some therapy
>End of Evangelion: this sick little fuck barely learned everything and is a budding sex pest due to his trauma and emotional narcissism, look at that little fucker strangle his crush
>Rebuild: I'M GOING TO BECOME MY DAD'S THERAPIST BECAUSE I SPENT A WEEK IN A COOL COMMUNE
is that better or worse than using psychically abused child soldiers as mechanisms to power giant warcrime machines in an interdimensional conflict against spacefaring gods
It's probably only checked if some of the vitals look bad and they didnt seem very heavily staffed at that point.
I prefer to think the long-haired dude saw it and just gave up right then and there
>>590>This show was designed to be something different than what I wanted it to be, therefore it is bad
Why are geeks like this
The awkward moment i relate with nearly every fucking character in some way….damn my parents and acquaintances were and are shit
absolute pleb thread
no wonder you feel at home, eh?
The last movie made me cry. Maybe it's because I've been waiting for 20 years to finally finish this shit.
>the show gets better trust me
That’s not how this works
It literally does. The last 2 episodes are basically a completely different show in which the catharsis and object of the episodes is dependent upon the traumatic events of the previous episodes. The show is not a giant robot anime. Not really. It’s a joke where the punchline is the last 2 episodes. It’s a joke only for mecha fans, but not funny to mecha fans. It was ‘touch grass’ 30 years ago. Its beautiful.
The pacing and plotting almost completely fell apart after shinji leaves the cyber-ghibli commune but god damn somehow it managed stuck the landing in the last 30 minutes
If they had just unfucked that middle chunk it would have been perfect, but as it stands it's good, not perfect. It's a decent send-off for the characters and it was nice seeing the cast get a happy ending for once
As I get older, the more and more I like the TV ending on its own merits divorced from the movie.
The lore was never all that important. It's all about these sad fuckers trying to find connection in a world that completely fucked them thanks to institutional and eldritch forces beyond their control. The ending yanks the rug out from under you and puts you in that frame of mind, and gives you, if not total closure, at least some kind of hope and light, which is what these characters really needed.
What IS Evangelion, Technically (And How Did It Break Anime)?
The editing of the film & how NGE's is iconic.
>>18417>not a single person notice Shinji jacking it?
Are you sure they just didn't care?
>>2223>One real cool thing is the contrast between the end of the world and angels blowing shit up, with sunny days and boring cicadas. Also maturity, contrasted with wanting to connect with others on a "real" level (which has been something that psychedelics have made me more aware of), and a whole host of psychological traumas we all have. Maturity seeming to include an effort to suppress traumas (rather than solve them and overcome them).
>As I'm more mature, I see this in adults all the time. Depends how empathic I'm being, there are times when other's traumas and insecurities are acutely apparent of whatever they're complaining or anxious about. I'm no exception, I'd say most of my adult life has been uncovering traumas and working through them. I have the suspicion a lot of people don't do this. Leftism has also made the trauma work easier.
Are you saying that the popular impression of maturity is "stiff upper lip" which fucks with adults?
I take that as an insult.
Why do people look down on kiss having angst for kid charcters for having angst or trauma while sympathising adults for doing the same?
Incel loses his mind, commits a sex crime, is caught in a war in a position of power he should not have, magical apocalypse girl decides to give him the power to decide what happens, he's already a broken shell of a human being so he decides to blow up the world but then changes his mind
Settle down, newgene. It's just saying that as you get older, the adult cast's hangups become more relatable.
I prefer to believe this now because it's the funnier option
>>590>so maybe I'm just a contrarian.
>>18417>How the fuck did not a single person notice Shinji jacking it
It's simple: you see, the writer wanted to put that scene into the movie…
that owns actually
Ehhh are you implying the scene came out of nowhere? Because it's a show about a teenager who wants to connect with others but can't after all
No. I'm implying that the writer wanted to put that in the movie regardless of whether it creates plotholes or not just because.
I hate the concept of plot holes because most of the time it's used by redditors nitpicking the most irrelevant bullshit like >>18417
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