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 No.590[Last 50 Posts]

NGE GENERAL
NEON GENESIS EVANGELION GENERAL

And wow, I fucking hated it to be perfectly honest. It seems like the entire show is only about Shinji's angst (and Rei increasingly I'm sure) and the characters various emotional issues, but like, okay, who cares? The situations they're thrown into are totally absurd and ridiculous so how can I take any of this drama stuff seriously?

Like these kids are the last best hope of mankind and they seem to be totally unsupported by anyone? Shinji was gonna live in a totally empty tenement and it's only his superior's minor moment of reasonable judgement that means he lives with her instead (and she is clearly no kind of parent figure), and Rei lives in a dark, dingy slum dwelling made of all concrete with nobody taking care of her either?

Like, their emotional reactions seems somewhat understandable but also completely dull and uninteresting because the situation they're in is absurd (and even then they both come off as pathetic and unlikeable - and no you can't say 'but that's the point!!', that doesn't make it entertaining to watch).

The less said about the non-angst portions of the story the better, the 'fights' are 10 minutes of foreplay for like 60 seconds of action if that, and while that's a common problem with anime, that doesn't make it excusable.

Yes this series is old and I'm sure it has inspired so much but people still recommend to watch it and it just seemed like garbage. Almost nothing is explained which means I can't possibly feel invested in this absurd world in any way. Every part of the setting seems to have been created with 'style over substance' in mind, urgh, just overall I found it absurd. Try not to give too much spoilers because I guess I might still try watch it, but I really don't see it redeeming itself.

Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian.
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 No.591

I'll just say that you've just licked the summit of the iceberg, the show gets much much better later on, the first episodes are merely setup
also, if you are not an angsty teen, you'll probably relate more to the adult cast
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 No.592

>>591
But how can such a supposedly legendary anime with such universal acclaim be a complete slog for so long? I'm literally 2+ hours in at this point.
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 No.593

>>590
> I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men'
Yeah that is just bout the summary of the "2Deep4U" problem
I'm not quite an EVA oldfag and I know the fandom can get caught up in the drama, but honestly all your complaints are just subjective dislikes rather than objective criticisms, which speaks more of your interests or lack thereof. You would like the Rebuilds more probably.
However, since you actually bothered watching the show before shit-talking it, I'll just suggest reading the posts in the waybackarchive of the old 8ch leftyweebpol Evangelion thread which explain they whys and hows pretty well.

Post 4005 in the thread is a good collection of the ideas of Evangelion. https://web.archive.org/web/20190802125217/https://8ch.net/leftyweebpol/res/2054.html

Also if you don't mind, when /a/ becomes a real board, I (or perhaps another poster) will make an Evangelion thread.
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 No.594

>>592
It's a slog for you, not for others.
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 No.595

>>591
>the show gets much much better later on
lolwut It actually gets even worse. Don't waste your time, OP, it's pretentious drivel the whole way through.
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 No.596

>Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian.
I feel for you OP, I had to both read and watch No Country for Old Men for an American Studies course in college. I understand entirely that the whole story is a deconstruction of the Western story archetype. I understand it, and yet I still thought it was a bad story with no payoff or catharsis in the end. Genre deconstructions should not be an excuse for wasting the reader's time.
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 No.597

>>595
even if you think that episodes closer to the end suck, you've gotta admit that action scenes, which OP enjoys, peak a bit later than the 6th episode
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 No.598

>>597
OP here, I'm not saying I'm really into mecha battling, I prefer westernmechs and more 'gritty' kind of combat, but, it would at least be /something/.
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 No.599

>>598
The Big O has the kind of combat you're into.
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 No.600

>>590
Drop Eva go watch Gunbuster.
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 No.601

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>>592
Every intrigue requires a setup. Six episodes out of twenty-six (plus a movie as a conclusion) isn't that much.
Not to mention the third central character (plus a central side-character) arrives only in the eight episode, only after which the greater plot starts to open up.
And boy, does it pick up its pace, reaching an astounding dash by the end of it all.
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 No.602

>>590
>Like these kids are the last best hope of mankind and they seem to be totally unsupported by anyone?
It's not uncommon for Japanese students to be living by themselves since the principle of independence is pushed on to the people.

>their emotional reactions seems somewhat understandable but also completely dull and uninteresting because the situation they're in is absurd

The whole point of these type of reactions is to add realism to the show and make it more believable. It's a needed contrast for the mecha fights since they're inherently unreliable even considering how the viewer has to play along with the idea to start understanding the story.

>The 'fights' are 10 minutes of foreplay for like 60 seconds of action if that, and while that's a common problem with anime, that doesn't make it excusable.

It's the beginning of the show, of course the fights will be short. The whole point is to demonstrate the dynamic of daily life and the fear of the angels. The fights do get to last longer, mostly towards the end and the movie.

>Almost nothing is explained which means I can't possibly feel invested in this absurd world in any way

Like what, the Angels and the Evas? Their believableness in the beginning is an irrelevance to why the viewer should be motivated to be invested into the show since the point of the show is to watch Shinji become a hero and his story on how that happened. They need to introduce the characters and their relationships first before getting into the main story.

>Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian.

Never saw Godfather so I can't say anything about it there but 'No Country For Old Man' I have seen and it seems to be the same thing with you. The enjoyment is the interaction the psychopath has with the world, a famous example being the shop scene and the first confrontation. It's a great film that's only long since the scenes are dragged on to add suspense, if you're not invested into the movie then the drag is annoying to watch.

I doubt you'll have any enjoyment if you do go back to Neon Genesis since the initial investment that show needs you don't have it so it won't get better. If you do, try to clear your mind of all the comments that have praised it and just go in with a blank mind since you seem to be overly worried of being a "contrarian".
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 No.603

>>602
>>593
Excellent posts
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 No.604

>>599
>this
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 No.605

Bruh it's SUPPOSED to be shit!
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 No.606

>>605
Piss off
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 No.607

>>600
This. Gunbuster is a more "fun" series in general. Evangelion isn't exactly for everyone. I do suggest trying to get further into Eva before dropping it though.
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 No.608

Is there any point in watching this if you're not a teenager?
Seems like overhyped because of nostalgia and reverence
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 No.609

>>608
Its not about "teen angst" but a deconstruction of human emotion. Unlike Lain, which instead categorizes and explains psychological issues rather clinically, Evangelion instead poses questions and humanizes these depictions. The most famous of this is the "Hedgehog's Dilemma" where people want to interact but are afraid of getting hurt and do in fact get hurt by relationships.
Its not overhyped, though some of the fandom can be obnoxious, and it deserves its nostalgia because for the people of its time, it was a product that spoke to them. Today's audience is very different to those of the 1990s It was about to be the turn of the century, Existential crises were globally occurring from the former USSR, to the USA to Japan, whose economy crashed enormously. There is a lot to say but frankly I suggest reading the waybackd post referenced in >>593
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 No.610

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Alright, fine, I'll post it.
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 No.611

>>609
Okay is there an order to watch it? Is it based on manga
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 No.612

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>>611
not the anon of that post but
Eva 1-26 (EP21-24 Director's Cut)

Optional Death & Rebirth. Death is a recap of the series and rebirth is the first half of the EoE.

End of Evangelion movie is a must see. In my experience, people who didn't enjoy the anime generally enjoyed the movie more as it's tighter paced and action filled.

Optional Rebuild movies. These are the theater remakes of the original series, and there's three of them currently with a fourth coming soon. Personally, I consider the rebuild series to be inferior to the TV series.

The manga was released earlier than the debut episode of Eva back in 1994 in order to promote the anime. They were intended to be released together. However, the manga took over an additional twenty years to finish while roughly covering the same plot line as the anime. I think it's worth it for the Sadamoto's line work however.
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 No.613

>>611
'That' anon here:
I suggest watching all the episodes and then EOE. The final 2 episodes are very trippy and thoughtful presenting a contrast to the starkn ending with EoE. I tend to headcanon that the endings mirror each other, with the latter being what goes on outside while the final 2 episodes being the inner thoughts of chrcters, mainly Shinji.

If you want more action you can watch the rebuilds, however only the first 2 films are good, the 3rd film made no fucking sense (which is hilarious for evangelion but true), and the 4th movie is still a trailer… a very insane and crazy trailer.

The manga inserts a lot of extra shit, for example the hinting of Shinji and Kaoru's kinship is turned into full-blown Yaoi-shit.
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 No.614

I don't want to be that guy, but subbed or dubbed?
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 No.615

>>614
Subbed. The dub is serviceable. Don't watch the Netflix dub.
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 No.616

>>614
Subbed is technically better but the original dub is decent and you can get a few laughs out of the frankness (look up 'evangelion baloney pony' for an example of this)
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 No.1255

>>613
> for example the hinting of Shinji and Kaoru's kinship is turned into full-blown Yaoi-shit.
no need to be in denial
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 No.1723

>>592
Most acclaimed anime have slow starts, its to get you attached.
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 No.1726

>>1255
It's not denial, its basically a mix of Western Dub fucking it up, and the Mangakas going Fujoshi with the characters, when the original lines are a demonstration of "male love" i.e. kinship between men, not "cute boys fucking uwu" shite.
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 No.1730

>>592
The more anime you watch the more you begin to realize just how uncommon slow starts really are.
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 No.1862

>>592
I guess it is somewhat slow getting to the real story, but you get a bunch of angel fights and other shit right from the start. I don't see the problem.
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 No.1902

>>592
Because most people don't find it to be a slog, or if they do they don't find it enough of a slog that the payoff doesn't justify it.

Honestly, I think the show overall kinda falls flat if you've never been a lonely 14 year old sad boy. I think that's the issue most people who don't vibe with the show are having, so that might be it.

But I have a friend who was in a similar situation to you. I tried for years to get this dude to watch the show but he couldn't get past the first several episodes. I was confident he would like it because I knew for a fact he had at one point been a sad 14 year old. Eventually he did watch it all the way through and has been obsessed with it for the least few months.
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 No.1933

I went into the show expecting to analyze the kids' trauma and came out thinking, "Damn, everyone here needs therapy. I guess that's what the instrumentality was for."
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 No.1934

>>1933
This, finally someone fucking gets it
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 No.1936

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>>1726
the mangaka is a dude and a major reifag and he still doubled down on kawarushinji, the entire point was for their relationship to have a heavy yaoi feeling from the beginning, it's why anno had a literal fag write the episode and told him to make it even gayer after the initial script

man I agree shinj wasnt full on lusting after a dude but to say they "just had kinship" is pure denialism and ur probably a closet fag
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 No.1937

>>1936
>the mangaka
1) Reminder that manga came AFTER the anime.
2) A Fujo doesn't have to be a girl
>the entire point was for their relationship to have a heavy yaoi feeling from the beginning
>Anno hired a literal fag and had him make it gayer
Source?
>to say they "just had kinship" is pure denialism and ur probably a closet fag
wrong.
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 No.1940

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>>1937
Fujo is quite literally not the term for a male obsessed with bl pairings. The mangaka is also not one of these people. That is your insecure projection. The manga was also started before the anime but it is also it's own canon.
>Source?
Why dont you do some basic research on a show your having hot takes about instead of living in a solipsistic bubble with pet theories not based in reality?
Excerpts from the first and one of the longest interviews after the airing of eva with the most popular yaoi magazine in japan:
https://evaresources.wordpress.com/staff/1997-june-anno/
>wrong
Your head canon is what is wrong. Pic related is the cover of the book the previously posted page comes from.
Face it. Your favorite sadboi anime has romantic gay shit in it.
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 No.1941

>>1937
>>1940
the cover didn't load for some reason but here's a link to the amazon page itself
https://www.amazon.com/Anno-Hideaki-Parano-Evangelion-this/dp/4872333160
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 No.1943

>>1940
>Why dont you do some basic research on a show
Considering that I've been an EVA-fag for roughly a decade I do plenty of research, however there is also so many interviews and media that it is quite easy to miss this stuff.
>your
"You're"
>Fujo is quite literally not the term for a male obsessed with bl pairings
Yes yes I know Fudan whatever.
>That is your insecure projection
Yes, so insecure that I don't read Yaoi and actively avoid it in media
>The manga was also started before the anime but it is also it's own canon.
Started being a keyword, the anime is far more important in many ways
>it's own canon
Which is my point.
>interview
Did you read this yourself? Anno contradicts himself
&ltI’d sort of stopped understanding Kaworu-kun, so I couldn’t discount the possibility that I’d made a mistake. He’s just an odd guy. *laughs* His image is a little different. Well, as a character, Ishida-kun’s voice was incredibly good, so I wondered whether the stuff that I’d simply thought up on my own wasn’t a little insufficient.
So h literally admits to not being the one with yaoi intent, and just having the thees thrown in because he didn't know how else to flesh out the character.
>face it
Yeah you've just proven that there IS gayshit in the manga which isn't what I denied. I denied that the dialogue and actual depiction in the anime were outright homosexual. The cover page you posted is for the MANGA, which has quite a few differences in interactions.
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 No.1954

>>1943
kek I recognize your smoothbrain posting style now
>anno contradicts himself so it's my special snowflake interpretation over established canon
Yeah I'm gonna go with word of god's literal description of kaworu as a homo love interest. Feel free to keep living in denial over your own and this anime's faggotry tho. You could also try actually watching the show and paying attention this time :)
>The cover page you posted is for the MANGA, which has quite a few differences in interactions.
lmao
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 No.1957

>>1954
>anno contradicts himself so it's my special snowflake interpretation over established canon
Nice strawman faggot
>watch it and pay attention
I did fag
> word of god's literal description of kaworu as a homo love interest
&ltImma just ignore that word of god also states that he didn't know what to do with the characterization so he just had it thrown in for the lulz last minute
Yeah this is why word of god is considered unreliable, especially since Anno himself complained about budget cuts only to get debunked by the budget managers in other interviews.

TL;DR: no argument; read more smart alek and don't take things at face value.
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 No.2171

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>>590
it gets interesting after ep 16 and tbh the evangelion manga is way better than the anime
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 No.2172

>>2171
>Manga is better
LOL no.
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 No.2221

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>>2171
>it gets interesting when you're more than halfway through

why do pseuds do this to themselves?
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 No.2222

>>591
The first time I watched Clockwork Orange, I had a real hard time watching it cause I was hating the main character.
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 No.2223

>>593
I was half-expecting my effortpost I made on leftypol to be there.

tl;dr, I got something very different when I saw it when I was young, than when I was older. And as another poster noted above, I understood more intimately the adult characters.

One real cool thing is the contrast between the end of the world and angels blowing shit up, with sunny days and boring cicadas. Also maturity, contrasted with wanting to connect with others on a "real" level (which has been something that psychedelics have made me more aware of), and a whole host of psychological traumas we all have. Maturity seeming to include an effort to suppress traumas (rather than solve them and overcome them).

As I'm more mature, I see this in adults all the time. Depends how empathic I'm being, there are times when other's traumas and insecurities are acutely apparent of whatever they're complaining or anxious about. I'm no exception, I'd say most of my adult life has been uncovering traumas and working through them. I have the suspicion a lot of people don't do this. Leftism has also made the trauma work easier.

Anyways, I'm rambling. The point is that EVA was an interesting series for me that touched on a lot of topics I care about. I think that at least makes it a good drama and a good sci fi series. It's not so much 2deep4you, many times it's just what you vibe with at the moment, sometimes EVA is not it.
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 No.2231

just watch starting from episode 14 if youre too gay to watch fight scenes
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 No.2241

>>2231
Don't do this.
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 No.2252

>>590
>Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian.
u fucking wot m8. There's nothing 2deep4u about Godfather, it was the most successful film of all time when it came out.
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 No.2285

Don't know about you op, but what I enjoyed about evangelion was the kinda quiet scenes the series have. Like in the first episodes when they are scenes of the city but nothing special happening, just the sound of birds, or "nature"; or when Shinji its at the hospital and you can hear the lights flickering, a loudspeacker in the background. I think those calm scenes do a good contrast with the fighting scenes, or when the characters have to deal with other issues. That feeling of being somewhere you may know, somewhere you may have visited before, or at least hearing something that seems quite familiar makes the series quite special to be honest :^). It's like having some sense of calmness before the storm, I guess.
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 No.2410

>>1933
>Damn, everyone here needs therapy. I guess that's what the instrumentality was for.

Yeah but despite that Shinji at the end of the movie seems to be as mentally troubled as he was at the beginning of the movie.
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 No.2501

>>2410
He's alright by the end of the last episode of the show though, can read that as taking place after the very end of EoE.
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 No.2565

>>2410
It's not obvious, but his grief is symbolised the last moment in the film when Shinji briefly chokes Asuka, but cannot bare to tighten his grip at all. He let's go, so to speak, all his baggage. And, all he is left to do is lay there. The ending is bittersweet. I think Asuka's line at the end, "You're disgusting.," is two faced. She's a tsundere. Even though the content of her words are harsh, her tone is neutral. I think it would be read the line instead as "I need you."
Watch at your accord, it's a spoiler.
https://youtu.be/pVeKyqV1jWU
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 No.2709

>I have the attention span of an 11 year old: the post
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 No.2710

>>2171
>takes out all the crazy weird shit that made the second half so interesting
>better

m8 NGE is indistinguishable from its many shitty knockoffs from the late 90s/00s once you take out Hideaki Anno's auteur fugue state out from the equation
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 No.2934

>>2501
>>2565
Thanks for your responses. I can only say there's many ways to interpret Evangelion. But I guess that's one of the things that makes the show attractive.

>>2565
I don't think that one can describe Asuka as just being a tsundere. I think there's more to it.
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 No.2941

>>2934
There's more to her, of course, but Asuka is the archetypal tsundere.
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 No.2948

>>2941
I supposed the Asuka/Rei debate has died down finally if there hasn't been any reaction to this.
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 No.2971

>>2948
Do you come from EvaGeeks or something? NGE debate has died down in general.
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 No.3007

>>2971
Well there's has been a little evangelion hype since last year due to the series being in Netflix, and that the last of the rebuild films is coming out this year.
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 No.3008

>>1936
>it's why anno had a literal fag write the episode and told him to make it even gayer after the initial script
Can anno get more based?

Also, Eva is a hegelian series.
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 No.3014

>>2971
/a/ still had regular rei vs asuka threads on 8ch
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 No.3666

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Rei Bass Guitar
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 No.3696

So, who you guys think is best girl?
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 No.3698

>>3696
As OP, Asuka, at least she seems to have a personality.
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 No.3699

>>3696
They're all unstable bitches I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot dick, but I do have a thing for fiery girls, so if I had to choose it'd be Asuka.
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 No.3700

>>3696
I was all about Asuka at 13, but now that I'm almost 30 I think Misato is best girl.
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 No.3703

>>3698
Have you finally finished watching the whole series?
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 No.3704

>>3696
Rei. before she dies her character progression and caring nature by the end show her to be a very good, if (like all of them) broken person. Asuka, is similar from a different end, but anyone who's actually had a girlfriend like her, knows that the amount of effort and problems caused is troublesome, unless you're a really chill person.
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 No.3714

>>3703
Hell no, this is just based on what little I know. Asuka is usually always smug or smiling, that's cute, Rei is always apathetic and somber. I don't have time for that shit.
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 No.3720

>>3714
>Rei is always apathetic and somber.
&ltI can't pay attention to facial expressions, so I'll take the fake ones plastered on by an aggressive, abusive girl than one by a calmer one.
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 No.3722

>>591
>NGE gets better
lmao no

Don't waste your time OP. The characters only get more annoying, the plot only gets more absurd and the lore of everything is never explained properly. NGE is the pinnacle of psued bullshit and babbies first philosophy. If it were made today, people would be railing on it each week talking about how ridiculous the episode was or how annoying Asuka was. By all means stick it out to the end (by which I mean EoE, not just the end of the series) but you'll only get more annoyed
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 No.3727

>>3722
Oh look it's the unironic "2Deep4Me so it's pseud-shit" poster. I wondered how long you'd take to post here.
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 No.3750

>>3704
>but anyone who's actually had a girlfriend like her, knows that the amount of effort and problems caused is troublesome

There's an alternate live sequence that was meant to be in EoE (but was later deleted) where Asuka is hooked up with Toji. So I guess that's how she'd be in any relationship. By the way, one interesting aspect of the Eva fandom is the shipping (even though the characters are all fucked up to be in any kind of romantic relation, aside for the fact they are all just 14 year old kids).
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 No.3751

>>3750
Thee Asuka vs Rei argument is a classic indeed. I have some posts from leftyweebpol I made about preference and their brokeness, but I'm probably going to wait on reposting them when I can organize my time a bit better
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 No.3769

>>3751
Well, they both are great, they have their ups and downs. But if I have to choose, I'd choose Asuka. I wouldn't mind being always there for her whenever she needs me, aside for doing all the housework for her. Plus, she's a redhead, and redheads attract me.
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 No.4671

>>2285
Yes. The contrast of the end of the world with those moments of nothing happening.

I insist, this is the best series I have ever seen in my life. I think there is a lot of hegelian/freudean analysis to get out, which I haven't seen anybody write about.

>>2410
The brilliant thing is that Shinji is the one that needs therapy the least.
>>2565
I interpreted that as Asuka hating Shinji because he no longer hated Asuka enough. Asuka hates herself so much, that she hates Shinji for not hating her.
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 No.4672

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>>3696
Misato is the only correct choice.
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 No.4674

>>4672
Excellent taste
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 No.4684

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>>3720
Correct.
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 No.4730

>no you don’t get to say “but that’s the point”
But…it is?
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 No.4733

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>>3704
>anyone who's actually had a girlfriend like her, knows that the amount of effort and problems caused is troublesome, unless you're a really chill person.
That shit is like candy to me, reminds me of my mom
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 No.4786

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I'm calling Asushin victory in the next Evangelion.

I'm basing this a process of elimination and the ending of EoE. Kaworu is dead, Rei will be used in the instrumentality and Mari doesn't fit the ending thematically. Since the instrumentality will be started with 01 and Asuka lacks her Evangelion it's safe to assume she'll be in the middle of it.

Barring Anno dropping a brick on her head she'll be the last one standing with a confession. Tic toc Mariasufags, tic toc.
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 No.5505

>>4684
Since (you) doesn't exist on this site these images have more impact methinks
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 No.5564

pleb filtered lol
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 No.8748

>>4786
>It's a MariShin ending
>Mari is a time traveler who knew his parents
<It's DEEEEEEP
<HOAD https://imgur.com/a/YlWfywm
Fuck Anno, his original work was great but the rebuilds were worse in almost every aspect, he unironically should have jacked off on camera and that still would have been a better ending.
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 No.8756

>>8748
I haven't watched any of the Rebuilds so I don't have the patience to try to understand this chaotic collection of posts.
So Asuka ends up with Kensuke and Shinji with Mari? What happened to Kaworu and Rei and their fans?
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 No.8792

>>8748
>he unironically should have jacked off on camera

Isn't that pretty much just what the script for Evangelion is anyways?
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 No.8802

>>8792
Kek, no.
>>8756
>Kaworu and Rei
Rei wants to become a farmere and live in solitude and peace but without LCL her body just falls apart.
Kaworu reveals himself as a being that exists in all timelinees or something like that, and that this whole thing has been going on over and over and over again and that Shinji needs to end the loop. While there is no KawoShin content, the fujos went full retard and have been spamming /a/ evangelion General threads with their garbage for months since the movies release.
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 No.8827

>>8802
>LCL
don't you mean AT field?
>no KawoShin content
I thought the movies were gayer than the series, or are you just talking about the latest ones?
Also what happened to the other couples?
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 No.8867

>>8827
>don't you mean AT field?
Nope, LCL
<"Rei requires constant exposure to LCL and cannot maintain herself, decomposing in Shinji's presence."
>are you just talking about the latest ones?
The gayest moment in the series outside of the manga fuckery is Rebuild 3.0 where he and Shinji are constantly together, in 1.0 and 2.0 it's straight as an arrow for relationships.
I was referring specifically about 4.0 in >>8802 where Kaworu is barely in it.
>what happened to the other couples
Misato apparently had a kid with Kaji but abandoned him at a farm with other survivors. Touji and Hikari got together and are adults, Kensuke is still alone, Asuka is actually a clone or something and is also alone, Shinji ends up with Mari after Gendo and yui sacrifice themselves during 5th impact to reverse infinity or something and basically create a world without Evangelion, a la The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki, where he meets Mari as adults and they walk off into the future.
Oh and Mari is apparently some friend of Yui's from some alternate past.
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 No.8886

>>8867
>mari
It would have been nice for them to set any of that up at any point in the previous decade
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 No.8901

>>8867
>Kensuke is still alone
thank fuck
Thanks for the summary anon
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 No.8917

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>>8886
>set up Mari
Hah, yeah. But fuck the audience is Anno's motivation for Evangelion in the past decade. The creator of mari actually ahd to come out and claim the Mari timetravel bullshit was non-canon, because fans were so annoyed at how half-assed this trivia was, especially since the movie doesn't actually openly go into it and it's a manga extra that went along with the rebuild story.

>>8901
You're welcome.
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 No.9117

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reposting a good take: The original series had a central theme of finding the will to live and push forward. Why hasn’t Anno been able to connect this theme with the Rebuilds and instead opt for more meta themes? It’s like he completely forgot his fight with depression and can only focus on how much he hates his older lifestyle. I know that Anno said that the theme of 4.0 is “the loss of loved ones and moving on”, but making Asuka and Rei’s feelings towards Shinji be programmed is a clear meta commentary on the fanbase. Evangelion resonated with so many people beyond more than just waifuism, but I don’t think Anno will ever understand that.
In the End, Evangelion was 2Deep4Anno, he did (not) understand his own creation.
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 No.9118

>Though for context I also hated 'The Godfather' and 'No Country For Old Men' and thought they were pretentious overlong shit, so maybe I'm just a contrarian.
Nah OP, that's called having taste.
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 No.9126

>>8867
Personally, I don't think Shinji and Mari are a couple like some people like to suggest, for me it seemed pretty ambiguous (not that I have anything against them being together). But I guess it's up to interpretation. Kaworu and Rei could definitely be a couple. The only romantic interaction so far is between Asuka and Shinji when he tells her that he also liked her, making her blush.
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 No.9130

>>9118
>That's called having no taste
FTFY
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 No.9131

>>9130
t. no-taste anon
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 No.9132

>>9117
>Why hasn’t Anno been able to connect this theme with the Rebuilds and instead opt for more meta themes?
Because the rebuilds are about trolling the fans and making money.
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 No.9343

Lost Evangelion AIDS PSA found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h1lFlKsppo

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