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>Communism is impossible in the West today, even if it lingers on in places like North Korea, academia, and online discourse. The organization of labour into effective groups for political agitation is a remnant of a bygone era; one of mass industrial production, and one in which it was totally normal to be employed at the same job for decades. The proletariat is a largely an illusion in the West, and is rendered all the more so a mirage in countries like the USA where the individual striver is more central to recent history and culture than collective bargaining. People want to escape from the proletariat! Social Democracy remains a strong presence in the West, buttressed by government workers who routinely turn out to vote to continue such policies.

Do you agree with this?

no

It's mostly true but doesn't mean it'll always be true, just wait for the rate of profit to fall and alot of people will be forced to become class conscious due to external necessity for self preservation

>defeatist thread #131125125

>The proletariat is a largely an illusion in the West
Larger than ever.

>and is rendered all the more so a mirage in countries like the USA where the individual striver is more central to recent history and culture than collective bargaining

Bourgeois individualism is nothing new.

>People want to escape from the proletariat

Which people? Who? What do they do for a living?

Looked up the source and it's by some Croatian fash.
https://niccolo.substack.com/p/random-musings
Barbara Pits time.

>>5815
>>defeatist thread #131125125
Remember to report and bully the janies into action, anons.

Yeah communism isn’t in the west; they only taxed the rich, forced public ownership of heavy industries; provided social securities; and forced social and economic equality laws

>>5819
Social democracy isn't socialism

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>Communism is impossible in the West today, even if it lingers on in places like North Korea, academia, and online discourse.
If you mean by "communism" and "today", establishing a socialist state in the near future, sure, because there is no organisation of the communists and the workers movements are very very weak.
>The organization of labour into effective groups for political agitation is a remnant of a bygone era; one of mass industrial production, and one in which it was totally normal to be employed at the same job for decades.
Here is where you show you are historically illiterate. The phenemonon of long term employment at a single firm only happened in one period of history, from the 50s to roughly the 80s early 90s. Not exactly the height of communism in the west. Before that, it was far far far more common to live precariously. Europe was filled with slums up until they did social democratic rebuilding and building commie blocks in the 50s. You had no, absolutely no, security, people fought street battles with company security, there were shootouts between the army and unions. If you are so delusional to think that "people just worked at the same place for decades on end" you aren't even worth having a serious discussion with. Honest advice, go watch some documentaries on working conditions of the first half of the 20th century.
>The proletariat is a largely an illusion in the West, and is rendered all the more so a mirage in countries like the USA where the individual striver is more central to recent history and culture than collective bargaining.
Whether or not people delude themselves into thinking they are temporarily embarrased millionaires doesnt change the fact the the proletariat as a class exists and is even larger than it was than at any point in history, both in absolute and relative terms.
>People want to escape from the proletariat!
That was not any different. And just like the west pre-ww2, that is a pipe dream.
>Social Democracy remains a strong presence in the West, buttressed by government workers who routinely turn out to vote to continue such policies.
Another delusional take. Social democracy has been either not in power or effectively dismantled for decades already. In the UK, the labour party was couped by neolibs in the 90s. Countries like the netherlands where there are still social democratic parties side by side of parties who pretend to be social democratic, havent had them in power for decades. It is being continually broken down, with only a few places like scandinavia holding out slightly longer. The major trend in western politics is a shift to the reactionary right or support for centre right neolibs with the occasional short lived populist upsurge that dies down immediately again.
Again, I implore you to actually learn about history, even from bourgoies or liberal sources, you dont even have to look at "communist propaganda", and just to read election results of european countries. Look at this graph for a good indication of european politics, its the EU parlaiment, in which national parties are elected for the EU parlement, which then group themselves into like minded groups.
The left and the S&D are the only parties advocating social democracy, and even that is a stretch given the types of neolib parties in the S&D.
The greens are just bleeding heart liberals.
Renew europe are centrist liberals.
EPP are christian conservatives
ECR are conservatives
Patriots are far right nationalists
ESN are basically openly nazis

Parties that nominally support social democracy only have 25% of the vote, and of those parties, many dont actually push for social democracy in practice.

>>5812
Anybody that still believes in the "Post-industrial era" is a complete fucking hack that can be dismissed outright.
>>5818
>Remember to report and bully the janies into action, anons.
Be careful! You don't want to get banned for "report abuse". After all, atrocity propaganda and regime change apologism are legitimate discourse!


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