/edu/ - Education

>>16182
the same was as always anon. attending talks, demonstrations and actions so on, flyering and papering, salting workplaces. and so on.

nothing has changes since the digital age. you are chasing your tail thinking about "social media" and "you tube".

>>16182
Ask people to do things

Redirect this to the Actual Organizing thread in the catalog

>>16183
I want to learn how to organize, not how to participate in already organized events.
Also I'm not sure why you dismiss modern tech so categorically. What are you gonna advise next? Want me to learn morse code so I can use 19th century teleprinter stations?

>>16185
That thread is full of derailment and "trolling" though.

>>16186
>Want me to learn morse code so I can use 19th century teleprinter stations?
no because nobody uses morse code. I am telling to do things people actually do.
>I want to learn how to organize, not how to participate in already organized events.
So you are going to make a new, better party?
Is having grouplet no.9003 really that appealing to you? If so think if it will be appealing to the public…

>>16188
>So you are going to make a new, better party?
>Is having grouplet no.9003 really that appealing to you?
Yes to both.
Cause the current parties and groups suck.
Probably cause they are led by people like you.

>>16189
<Yes
Asinine. This is why you people get nothing done, anon.
All your energy will be diverted in to creating this new party and everything along with it such as the tremendous amount of time you will exert just trying to recruit members, let alone actual committed members, you will achieve nothing outside of your group.
Look around yourself to the other parties and groups you have been in or visited and ask yourself what is going to make people join you en masse compared to any of them.

>>16183
>the same was as always anon. spinning wheels, hand scythes and gas lighting so on, nothing has changes since the industrial age. you are chasing your tail thinking about "factories" and "combines" and "electricity"
Suck my dick luddite

>>16191
<getting this buttmad when confronted with a fact he has to go outside to organize
wew. calm down bro.

>>16190
>Asinine. This is why you people get nothing done, anon.
>you people
>you people
The shill reveals itself.

>>16190
>noo we must all join dsa and do entryism and inevitably tail the democrats forever
Glow harder cocksucker

>>16192
Total anarchist death would be a good start

>>16195
It's quite obvious that that guy is a false flagging detractor, so why demonize the group that he pretends to be part of?

>>16196
This whole thread is one guy IP hopping

>>16194
<some shit nobody said
seethe more faggot
>>16195
3edgy5me!

>>16194
Not everyone is a burger and orgs besides DSA exist anyway

>>16197
/leftypol/ is one guy and a proxys as a service account. how nu r u?

>>16201
<leftist politically incorrect is when i piss and shit everywhere to own le anarchists.
read the rules you utter spaz.

>>16200
>one guy
*GPT3 spam bot

>>16182
OP here, we are 21 replies in and not a single useful book or video has been mentioned.

>>16204
Nobody is going to help you create a party to become king of your little petti fiefdom when you could just go and get involved with actual orgs and actions that actually exist. That you have no 'useful' replies speaks on you.

If you don't like the socialist orgs in your area, then go for single-issue organizations, and see what they do. Learn from the people who organized it. Learn their outreach methods. Help them achieve their goals. If something fails, help in the process of understanding why it failed. If you don't have any activism or left wing groups in your area at all, move somewhere that does if you can (not for them, but for you and your sanity).

Understand now that there's a difference between teamwork skills, political tactics, leadership skills, recruitment skills within the context of a specific functioning organization – and advertising, marketing, recruiting people into a non-existent or 1 person organization that doesnt do anything for lack of people, etc.

The first group is what will actually help with real world organization of the working class towards working class power, the second will only help you get internet no-lifes so give symbolic support (or if you're really good at it, you can fundraise and have a decent grift)

>>16187
Then moderate the board

Are you in an irl org?
Also we already have a thread for exactly this.

>>16186
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0AyMlZY8MWWZGxKZGpZWW56U1k?resourcekey=0-03RWqCYovX9e8hVF7wVgSQ&ref=new-students-for-a-democratic-society.ghost.io

see the "tutorials" folder.

tbh tho you are best off joining an effective org and learning through doing rather than reading theory

>>16186

read labornotes "Secrets of a Successful Organizer" and sign up for one of their trainings, the same principles apply outside of union organizing

ITT people who think they're fit to create and lead an org when they haven't even joined one before

>>16213
>>16213
>https://pslweb.org/
based

>>16210
>>16210
>tbh tho you are best off joining an effective org and learning through doing rather than reading theory
It is actually possible to do both. It is important that as communists that we make full use of democratic centralism as a method for which we make decisions concerning how we orient ourselves toward the struggle. Democratic centralism, compared to the so-called principle of "horizontalist concensus," enables the most organizationally advanced section of our class, in terms of development, to act quickly, to be able to turn on a dime and take off, starting off in strategized basegroups, and with clear vision of the objectives, and with coherent and developed understanding of the actuality of revolution, set out to intervene in the authentic struggles by the people, amidst the cascade of crises under this murderous system, the current material stage of imperialist capitalism. Our understanding of organization is that in order to that we may help make revolution, alongside the masses, providing them a platform from which they can act in their authentic crises, is that we have to be highly organized and purposeful: that there is absolutely a need for democratic decision making, and it must be a centralized fashion, where we have a debate within a set time frame, we have that necessary discussion time, and then we act, and do what the majority of us said we should do, and orient ourselves to unity of action, even if we might disagree.

>>16213
These do about as much relevant stuff as the DSA
There's no real party organization for workers in the US or really anywhere except for tentatively voting for established libleft parties, in this case the Democrats

>>20220
Seems good, I'll give it a read

>>21544
>>20220
Ok now that I've read it, it seems pretty good for any genuine Marxist organization to get shit done. It's meant to be read as a group and is a from an explicitly Maoist lens.

It outlines the baseline strategies and tactics for a Marxist org quite well. Tbf it's written by actual revolutionaries and not armchairs. Would love to see more takes on organization.