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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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From what i understand, successful rural guerrillas like the Shining Path and FARC weren't able to overthrown their governments because of low popular support on cities.
Why is that? How can we overcome this problem? I want to study that. If anyone got good books/videos/documentaries on the history of the Shining Path, the FARC, IRA, the Red Faction, and whatever you think will help, please share them.


>>21765
Marighella writes surprising well. Although i read this book before posting this, thanks nonetheless.
The brazilian urban guerrilla is probably the one i'm most knowledgeable of.

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guerilla just doesn't work against regular army and police

What a coincidence. Cuck Philosophy just uploaded a doc related to this subject.

URBAN GUERRILLAS: The Decade of Left-Wing Terrorism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-pdWG8YkZ8

>>21775
gonna watch it, but from what I understand, while they did shock the general public, they were completely ineffective against even local poloce forces.

>>21781
He's not endorsing it or something. He's just going through the history of it. And you are correct, as he puts it near the beginning it's largely a cope for the degeneration of the western left during the period, and the movements with actual mass organizing did a lot better, including at achieving the goals of the urban guerillas.

>>21782
didn't the CPC actually give out training to potential cadres back then? did any of those groups ever go there

>>21772
yea, not much you can do against tanks and planes, also wtf is this vid
>>21775
Thanks.


>>21775
damn, vid got privated

>>21764
I would say, the PCP-SL, like the CPP or the CPI (maoist) had (and have for the last two) to fight just like the CPC under Mao. What i'm trying to say is, a Guerrilla has to perservere during decades of conflict. Those decades may even be a century, but one of the truths as communists we know is that of contradictions. Though they may be for some or a lot of time slow to develop, they eventually come to a point which the guerrillas who follow a correct theoretical line can use to advance.

The other problem is that of establishment of a guerrilla in developed countries without the semi-feudal conditions the three i mentioned have.

Now, the answer i have has no example whatsoever and has no study involved. But see how Cyberpunk is described? How, there, capitalism evolves towards a complete dystopia? It is possible that capitalism can come to that, and that dystopia can create the conditions for an armed wing of Communist Party.

I have this conclusion from seeing how Japan is, they haven't come to that point though. But they are capitalism to an extreme, just not an Oligarchy, rather its people are massively depressed.

And not only that, even in countries with a history of progressive (yet liberal) measures like Northern Europe, there are signs of how capitalism makes a people depressed by expecting them to work like slaves and to exceed.

So i see capitalism is reinforcing its contraditions and it can come to a point where government has no power left, because capitalism has. Once that is achieved, a guerrilla can be possible.

By the way, people, this is a hypothesis, i ain't trying to give this a serious thought.


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>>24326
The failure of violent revolution like the Paris Commune is not because they betrayed the "contradictions" but rather due to the stragic failures of the people involved instead. For examples, not seizing the banks where they could be used to fund their goals, not attacking the government army, etc. It is literally such failures, not "unfollowing contradictions", resulted in their defeats. This can be avoided through observing the patterns of events and adjusting one's own decisions based on to it.

Events in a materialist sense is like the results of contradictions rather than existing independently from it. The contradictions itself can't be unfollowed since it is causal to all events. On the other hand, the theories of revolutionary terrorism are well developed and there are actions guided by them. Some people are better off fighting than to be enslaved. There are de facto free zones being established through terrorism like the areas under control of the Maoist ICP and SDF.

Northern Europe is not "progressive" nor does Japan (note how ridiculous "progressive" combined with "liberal" is) since they're reactionary by bing bourgeois and follows a doctrine of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. "Oligarchy" is the rule of the bourgeoisie, it is another way of telling the story. There is no factors preventing you from fighting gurrilla warfare as long as you can gather the material needed. It is literally possible to get a gun plus there are like-minded people as well. The concept "power dynamic" didn't predict the success of the Bolsheviks nor the CCP and turned reactionary by being used to deter any attempts to build communism through revolution instead.

>>24329
I was the OP of what you're replying. You actually made sense, i'm still reading some theory. But one question do i have, is revolution inevitable due to the inherent contradictions of capitalism? I mean, that's what i get from revolutionary socialism. But if yes, what we actually need, instead of blinding imitating PPW or the October Revolution, to study the actual conditions of the country we belong to and then take the steps to conquer power through what's best in the situation?

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>>24333
>What we actually need is a successful revolution, a revolution that overthrows the entity of state violence at once, that is distinguishable from other entities. All other revolutions, involving terrorism, or since they involve terrorism, are not supported by "contradictions" in a revolutionary socialist sense, are not out of thorough considerations nor fit for their revolutionary goals, therefor not relevant.

>We belong to "countries"


None of the statements are true>>24333


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