/edu/ - Education

You are correct. Don't waste your time.

The aphorisms written by the communists are useful enough

French academic style has some babble in it to inflate the word count and the German style has pages even chapters or whole books that end with a negation

>>22421
I've yet to encounter any kind of philosophy that actually has value when you get rid of the pseud language

Don't.
I regret ever caring about this slop.
Once you start down this path it never ends.
There is always some new bullshit.

Philosophy is fun but as to how to get into it, I don't quite know.

>>22428
I know right.

Always remember that you are reading to have read. Don't even try to understand.

So is just sophistry and aphorisms, not actual valuable insight? No good intro books about it?

Well, continental philosophy starts with German Idealism. But Adorno has some good introductory lectures, and Deleuze wrote a book on Kant.
https://monoskop.org/images/9/9c/Deleuze_Gilles_Kants_Critical_Philosophy_The_Doctrine_of_the_Faculties.pdf

>>22436
Philosophy has always been a diversion for the leisure class, but if you insist then start with le greeks because every westoid sloppa you're planning on reading read them first.

>>22446
>Philosophy has always been a diversion for the leisure class
>Implying there won't be leisures under communism
Marx would be very cross with you.

Anyway, people who say that philosophy doesn't matter don't fully understand what philosophy is. Logic, dialectics, materialism, etc. are all philosophical concepts. Science merely the analysis of these concepts in a real-world context.

One of the main reasons why philosophy, specially modern (1900s and onwards) philosophy comes across as posturing and indecipherable try-hard wannabes is because the writers fail to understand that when Hegel and co were writing, much of what we take for granted today was unknown. Human knowledge in general was very limited and religious 'knowledge' was the norm. In this context, Hegel and co were doomed to write in a convoluted, difficult way. But since then, science elucidated so many things. But philosophers insist on roleplaying like 18th century europeans and they snark at whatever filthy, lowly 'science' has had to offer since then.
If they did, their 500 page book would be cut down to a 40 page pamphlet, and it would be clear that they have not much substance, and that they're effectively ranting in their personal diaries.

>>22421
jfc incredibly pseud image. so many morons treat communism as being about "oppression" in the abstract man

>>25010
>muh marx
you mean the guy who thought philosophy is religion rendered into thought and hence to be condemned?

no scientist has ever used bullshit like dialectics to do analysis LMAO. even marx himself insisted dialectics were merely a matter of presentation to him. kys

>>25155
>no scientist uses dialectics waah
Rotflma
Gould, punctuated equilibrium

So, Continental Sloppa is irrelevant to socialism theory, bros?

>>25156
>this scientist believed in le holy science of dialectical materialism ergo he used dialectics
by this logic catholic scientists used catholicism to do analysis too
engels' dialectics of nature was bullshit too btw

>>25157
its plenty relevant considering socialism is the bourgeois ideology in opposition to communism

Continental philosophy is just philosophy, whereas analytic philosophy more generally refers to a specific methodological approach and system of logic which, by its own constraints, can only describe a specific portion of consciousness and reality. It's unfair and generally incorrect to think of the divide as being incompatible (see: Wittgenstein). As for where to start, it really depends on what you're interested in. I think everything still basically begins and ends with Plato, but if you're interested in aesthetics (which I think the "Continental tradition" is unquestionably better equipped to detail), reading Spinoza, Henri Bergson, Gaston Bachelard, and Merleau-Ponty would be fun for you. In terms of critique, there's still no replacement for Hegel and Adorno, although I think Heidegger's essays are also essential texts