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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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What explains bad grades in someone fascinated by subjects tied to above-average intelligence, who is also socially awkward and isolated? This is the worst possible combination. Meanwhile, 6ft 4 charismatic chads get perfect grades and enter the nation's best colleges for law or medicine.

School is seen as the one true path towards success

>>25971
They are selecting for conformity, not intelligence.
In my case my interest in science started from talking to another kid that toyed around with electronics. It snowballed. My grades have always been average, not bad. My parents encouraged me to be a good student in the sciences.

School is compulsion while education is passion

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Before reading the thread:
Evopsych isn't real so there is no "evolutionary purpose" to anything. Evolution isn't sentient, things diversify and some of those results are successful given their conditions. There is no pre-determined perfect end result things to evolve toward premeditatively.

After reading:
Grades are about recitation / formality adherence and schedule adherence, not actual understanding. Intelligence can't help with that.

You have to just no-life being a student for a while until you're good at getting things in on time and figuring out what your professors misunderstandeof the subject and sicophantically pretend their right even if you know better due to actually caring about the subject.

Maybe you are not as smart as you think you are.

>>25971
You probably have ADHD

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>>25978
>Evopsych isn't real
Evolution shaped every organ except your brain, apparently. Your objection contradicts itself if evopsych isn’t real, neither is your cognition in arguing against it

Evopsych is real by definition as a field of study. Claiming it “isn’t real” is like saying geology isn’t real because you don’t like rocks.

Fuck off with your Freshmen philosophy

>>25980
I agree. Either ADHD or some sort of developed deficiency similar to ADHD symptoms.

>>25979
Above-average intelligence is a very low bar, c'mon. OP probably doesn't see himself as smart, he simply acknowledges that he's not stupid and that there is a disconnect between his (self and/or externally) perceived intelligence and "the fruits of one's intelligence" i.e. good grades, academic prestige, high paying jobs.
I for example have been conditioned to think of myself as very stupid due to my poor grades and academic score and lack of success in the job market, but everyone I know regards me as very intelligent. This is frustrating since it feels like some sort of pity of gaslighting, or worse: yourself being smarter than you think, but being unable to fulfill your potential due to some other factors at play. I understand the having potential meme being a coping mechanism for many, but for others it is the inverse and will only make you even more anxious.

>>25981
The brain being a product of evolution and evopsych magic being real are two different things. Video essay upon ye.

>>25981
You and anon are in agreement as anon accurately describes evolution. He probably means evopsych as the current body of knowledge rather than as a phenomenon.

>>25983
>Video essay
lol no

>>25981
Sociologists, like so many Marxists, try to deny evolution in favour of a modern doctrine of tabula rasa for political purposes.

>>25971
>explain the evolutionary
approx. 2.7 mya when we were still in the trees the monkeys at monkey school were and then…

>>25989
evo psych is anti marxist. its p much muh hooman nature 2

>>25989
Evopsych itself denies evolution in it's factual form in favor of a mythologized form.

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>>25992
>>25993
>evo psych is anti marxist.
Rejecting data because it offends your ideology is religious, not rational.
>Evopsych itself denies evolution in it's factual form in favor of a mythologized form.
You're illiterate. Behavior has selection pressure unless you think the brain is magic fairy dust exempt from biology. Read a book, not a manifesto.

>>25994
The only heritable aspect of behavior is brain and nervous system structure. There is no "gene that makes you a sigma male" because there's way more moving parts than that.

Believing in magical nonsense like destiny determining the path of evolution into a conical convergence toward a pre-determined state of perfection as evopsych does is retarded.

>>25994
>Rejecting data because it offends your ideology is religious, not rational.
but that isnt what i said

>>25994
> If it is held that man is "by nature" an uninventive tribesman and an inventive businessman, a submissive slave and a proud craftsman, an independent hunter and a dependent wage-worker, then either man's "nature" is an empty concept, or man's "nature" depends on material and historical conditions, and is in fact a response to those conditions.
I am yet to learn about a "result" from evolutionary psychology that was not discredited by actual archaeological evidence. It is nothing more but a bunch of charlatans looking at what already exists and trying to justify it based on what must have existed before, all while ignoring what actually did exist in the past.

>>25998
Then you haven't read. Dismissing a field by stereotype is lazy.
>actual archaeological evidence
archaeology guesses from trash piles lmao

>Meanwhile, 6ft 4 charismatic chads get perfect grades and enter the nation's best colleges for law or medicine.

Maybe because those Chads also have super intelligence but are also socially graceful.
Not all chads are subpar intelligence

>>25994
Most evolutionary psychology is based around pop culture impressions rather than reality though

>>25978
>>25972
>>25977
This

What’s even more intrinsic is that the rationale for modern schooling is “socialization”

A lot of adults who agree with compulsory law for public schools say that school should be about socialization because otherwise “you end up as a loser in the adult world”

Yet a lot of adults end up social recluses in time

And socialization ins chills are micromanaged too the point of sterilization

Schools willfully neglect to teach life skills
Their idea of life skills is forcing kids to do group projects


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