/games/ - Games

>>43295
Actually this is le good because piracy may become easier

>>43297
I don't care

>>43295
>muh jerbs lost
>please think of the workers no longer having to work crunch time for billion dollar studios ;_;
Just kill yourself, you are a waste of air.

>>43295
lol artistic jobs are not proletarian, let alone programmer jobs. theres no "side" to "choose" here

>>43295
>strawman
Shit like anthem shunting down might be related to SKG.
Unrelated shit like gaming layoffs that already happen beforehand doesn't, act like embracer group didn't happen.
you doing the same thing ross said what would happen but with dumber bait

>>43302
yes they are you fucking retard

>>43302
>uhhhm these jobs are not trve proletarian jobs.
Hazziger back to fall for Trump's bullshit again.

>>43302
>lol artistic jobs are not proletarian
Fucking STOP with this shit take already

>>43307
>>43308
>>43311
cool, here comes the amerifat retard brigade with their "CEOs are proletarians too" rhetoric

>hazziger
lol burgers are so mind-raped by their constant culture wars they think correctly saying wealthy wage workers or artisans are not part of the proletariat is like le barista discourse

obviously im also stupid for expecting the hobbyist side boards to NOT be retarded especially on a thread begging the state machine to protect their favorite products but the average american lives in such a bubble they will, with a straight face, pretend educated and skilled professionals are remotely similar to the immiserated reserveless propertyless wage workers lmfao

>>43314
>uhh you are a burger
>if you get a bigger salary you are le not prole.
>if you are making something singlehandely you don't live by labor sold for wages.
>you souldn't stay in """these""" workers side because they are not Trve proles.
no wonder socialism or communism don't attract no one in substantial ammounts in society, if the labor is a tiny bit different than factory workers they start to sperg.

>>43315
Kill yourself, creative workers are proletarians just like teachers and nurses
Your burger hate is not a coherent ideology

Up next in memecommunism: the Hollywood actors union is also an example of proletarian action because uhhhh it's a union or uhhhhh all workers are proletarians.

>>43318
Yes, only factory workers during industrial revolution were ever proletarian

>>43315
a different standard of living doesnt change the fact both sell labour and have to spend money to live, we can talk about the imperial core of the benefits of not destroying your body all we want, the era where programmers where some sort of elevated upper middle class i over and double so for every other creative job

>>43305
>reading comprehension
I'm not blaming SKG for the layoffs, I'm saying gamers are selfish cunts who don't deserve a single good thing.

>>43324
>gamers
>"consoomer"
i don't care, opinion discarded regardless.
it's still unrelated to SKG but shitty
e-celeb related BS

"Yes, the whole world is falling into hell, but goddamn it I WANNA KEEP PLAYING MY VIDEO GAMES! (((THEY))) ARE KILLING MY VIDEO GAMES!!!"
-unwashed Sloptube streamer seconds after saying Palestinians in Gaza are not people


>stop killing games
<look up games that technically have been "killed"
>mostly f2p slop, online only games with shit licensing that ran out decades ago, consoomer live service garbage (Destiny 2)
Ok, cold water time.

This entire discourse is everything wrong with the consumer side of the vidya game industry. It perfectly shows the man-child tinged false-consciousness of the consumer-centric zeitgeist. Of all the things that are horrible and should be changed about the video game industry (mass layoffs, brutal crunch, fucked up practices that turn children into gambling addicts, the continued offshoring of massive amounts of work to underpaid workers in the developing world who have barely any worker rights, etc) this literal non-issue is what these (I hate using this term for its over usage but this perfectly describes these ppl) treatlerites see as the outstanding issue of our time. Also the fact they equate games to the status of living beings (that can be killed) is just fucking insane when a lot of the streamer voices jockeying this shit literally were and still are pro-genocide pro-Israeli dirtbags.

>>43327
>more e-celeb
gay

>>43327
Games being discontinued or access revoked is adjacent to right to repair and is directly relevant to the question of property rights. Instead of recognizing the potential for opening people's minds to the class dynamics though you are just bitching.

>>43327
>ld be changed about the video game industry (mass layoffs, brutal crunch, fucked up practices that turn children into gambling addicts, the continued offshoring of massive amounts of work to underpaid workers in the developing world who have barely any worker rights, etc)
Half of the posts in this thread are throwing shade at this because of unreasonable skepticism towards citizen initiatives but you're like the only person here who thinks an ECI would be able to meaningfully address working conditions in Europe lol. At any rate anything that challenges if only a little bit encroaching IP rent seeking is OK by me because it's one of the biggest tentacles of monopoly capital

>>43333
>you're like the only person here who thinks an ECI would be able to meaningfully address working conditions in Europe
???, uh no I don't? Just pointing out the actual problems with the games industry is not endorsing or thinking the ECI is gonna do anything or can do anything, its just juxtaposing the cynical individualistic demands of the "gamers" who want their games not to be "destroyed" (even though its complete bs, no games are being destroyed and those that are unplayable are literally designed that way, every multiplayer game has a expiration date unless it has lan which is not gonna be how most of these games function today) vs the actual reality of the industry (something these gaymers are literally not a part of, the actual labor and production of games).
>At any rate anything that challenges if only a little bit encroaching IP rent seeking is OK by me because it's one of the biggest tentacles of monopoly capital
If you actually read the faq, they do not seek to challenge this at all. They don't want to end games as a service or even force a company to give up its IP. So there is no challenge to anything!
<No, we would not require the company to give up any of its intellectual property rights, only allow players to continue running the game they purchased.
They even undercut thier message by stating they think companies can end support to games whenever they want.
<We are in favor of publishers ending support for a game whenever they choose.
Its feckless treatler "we don't hate the corporation just their practices" slop.
<No, the market demand and profitability of these games means the video games industry has an ongoing interest in selling these. Since our proposals do not interfere with existing business models, these types of games can remain just as profitable, ensuring their survival.
Its total bs. Live service is the problem. Companies do not let buyers know they are technically renting a service rather than buying a game product. If that was made clearer, like how steam early access games let the consumers know that the game they buy might get abandoned, that can affect sales and eventual change on part of devs and publishers. Avoiding going after the profitability of such practices makes this "movement" a total wet dog fart.

>>43334
I think youre honestly a bit stupid in that you fail to recognize that the initiative is preempting obvious counters from game publishers. What's at stake is not "long term support" but purchases granting ownership of a commodity instead of the current legalese which only lends the user a license

>force a company to give up its IP. S
This is a stupid pipe dream that would be instantly dismissed, you're honestly retarded sorry

>>43298
What does a layoff have to do with it

i dont give a fuck about a genocide but dont touch muh video games

>>43337
You cannot do shit to stop genocide. You don't, no one with working morality has capability or willingness to stop it
You CAN however stop companies from touching bideo games

>>43334
>every multiplayer game has a expiration date unless it has lan
You have intellectual property brain worms. It's easy in principle to make source code public and let people who want to keep playing to run their own community servers.

>>43339
The goal is to make every Multiplayer game Counter strike 1.6 or Ragnarok online pretty much.

>>43339
>You have intellectual property brain worms.
???
>It's easy in principle to make source code public
It really is not nor is it something that this petition even asks for.

>>43337
>>43338
>>43334
>>43327
>adding more unrelated bait with Israeli
gay

>>43327
>It perfectly shows the man-child tinged false-consciousness of the consumer-centric zeitgeist.
Woah it's bloodgasm, the Don Juan of Cyberpunk 2077! ( ˘ ³˘)♥

>>43180
God damn i hate that consooomer union so fucking much

Bloodgasm is right that the petition doesnt go nearly far enough, currently if some shitty consumer law gets enacted thanks to this most publishers will do the bare minimum and maybe only leave the launcher on lmao, maybe they will count that as a game. But porky is still scared shitless lmao, because further the down line the actual issue might be tackled (live service games and licenses) aka Steam and all those shitty drm infested storefronts. Although Steam might be targeted regardless in the EU due their essential monopoly on the pc gaming market.

>>43368
Also if we ignore the cooonsoome meme, the actual problem is games as a service (rent seeking) and games as a license, gacha slop etc…

>>43368
>Bloodgasm is right that the petition doesnt go nearly far enough
How could it go further without immediately getting throw out? Nothing is touching copyright, anon. And what is and is not acceptable state to leave the game in will be debated in Brussels and later on in courts

>>43370
>Nothing is touching copyright, anon
I never said that that

>>43371
Ok then what is the real problem?

>>43372
Trick question? Copyright obvs but in terms what is achievable via consumer protection (atleast theoretically although with a very low low chance) digital media being treated the same way physical media is treated. Again, super low chance but in theory, it would be possible, and it wouldnt infringe on copyright.

>>43374
And by copyright i mean ip in general of course

>>43367
>>43369
>cooonsoome
opinion discarded

>Uh… wanting to own the things you bought and not get caught up in planned obsolescence schemes is… uh… consumerism! Thats right, it's consoomerism! You dumb leftoids hate the consoomers, right?
They're not sending their best.

>>43378
>paying for games
>paying for games as a service
>giving money to ubishit for anything
>giving money to EA for anything
>thinking regulations work
>thinking the EU works
>not cracking your own games
ngmi

>>43374
>digital media being treated the same way physical media is treated.
How is is this not a step in that direction?

>>43382
You're just being a pretentious cunt, yes pirating is better but you can say the same about shoplifting, I guess bread should be $20 then so we can just laugh at the people who buy it

>>43383
>bread is the same as video games
If that is the case, I hope you starve.

>>43384
I hope you stop being a sour unlikeable cunt one day but I'm not holding my breath

>>43385
>not filtering all the retarded namefags
you only have yourself to blame

>>43384
this is the most leftypol can ever "organize", pls understand