Is Toby fox petty bourgeoisie/a porky? Genuine question, i mean he doesn’t really own capital aside from the intellectual property right of his games and his team or whatever owns their own means of production, are all indie games just Little Hitlerite Small Businesses™️? Who cares anyway the games are just transhumanistslop at the end of the day
i used to fret a lot about this kind of thing before i recognized that class interests are only a good guide to broad aggregates rather than as a tool for analyzing individuals. elon musk would still be a dickhead if he was a proletarian and toby fox would probably still basically be alright even if he set up an unambiguous bourgeois firm. while you can use aggregate interests to explain some individual behaviors, others will inherently be incongruous.
e.g. some bourgeois will act against their interests as bourgeois because they are "good people", some will act against their interests - in a harmful way - because they are "bad people", the mistake liberals make is to think that you can rely on the "good people" to shift the aggregate. the mistake many leftists make is to think that the existence of the aggregate precludes the existence of individual "good people".
>he doesn’t really own capital aside from the intellectual property right of his games
that's a pretty big aside, OP
>>46536By this standard almost every author is bourgeois. You would be in some infinitesimal sense bourgeois through owning the copyright to your posts on this site, every photograph you've ever taken, etc.
<class as a moral qualifierits all so tiresome
>is this literal multimillionaire a petit booj guise???????!! he doesnt own le factory!!!!!!!!11why are amerilards so utterly fucking retarded when it comes to class analysis bruh
>>46541youre SO close to getting it man
>You would be in some infinitesimal sense bourgeois through owning the copyright to your posts on this site, every photograph you've ever taken, etc.nvm youre plain retarded and dishonest
if you live off of property then you're porky even if its bullshit made up intellectual property, I've said my piece
>>46534He is technically petty bourg because he employs people.
But individuals are capable of rejecting their own class interests. See Engels.
>>46545>But individuals are capable of rejecting their own class interests. See Engels.also oh you mean one of the few who bothered to study the class struggle extensively and scientifically? yeah im sure this happens all the time!
>>46541>By this standard almost every author is bourgeoisinsofar as the petty bourgeoisie can also include the self-employed, yes. Marx doesn't say this explicitly. we could also choose categorize as petty porkies those who actually employ people, but at a smaller scale than the typical porky. this then includes Toby Fox, assuming he has hired people to do art for him rather then giving them a direct cut of the profits
all this is mostly beside the point, because as
>>46543 says Marxism is not moralfaggotry
>>46551Marxism is not moralfaggotry in theory, but you'd be very naive indeed to imagine Marxists don't treat their categories as moral ones in practice.
>>46552I know turd worldists do
most indie game developers are very alienated, and even mainstream game devs are literal victims of the Epstein class of sexual harassers and "crunch time" overwork burntout PMC management exploitation. Its not worth considered the 0.01% of lottery winners
>>46567>alienatedthis doesnt mean jack shit btw, even CEOs can be alienated
>Epstein classoh its yet another retard, yawn.
>>46569>oh its yet another retard, yawn.the game industry is filled with sex pests and literal pedophiles, this isn't a secret. or are you upset because "you cant le say le bourgeoisie, chud" reddit meme?
>>46566Artists are fine. Yes, even liberal ones. You can relax.
>>46596theres no reason to kill anyone that doesnt resist their bourgeois status being taken away anyway. maybe like the top 100 worst capitalists/oligarchs in the world just to set an example idk
>>46597Ehh… then you have to heavily invest into State Sec to hunt the kulaks that went to ground and are going to start wrecking.
>>46598So what? You'd have to do that anyway, if you killed millions of bourgs that would only make it worse.
>>46599>if you killed millions of bourgs that would only make it worseThis sentiment is not based on anything historical. No communist government was ever "too harsh" on the bourgeoisie.
>>46600Ok so what are you going to do. Say you kill porky mcpork, who had a business with 15 employees or whatever, are you gonna kill his son too so he doesn't grow up to hate and undermine your government? his brothers? his wife maybe just in case? where does it end?
>>46601You say it like any of those things are bad. Yet, nobody actually likes gusanos, or their kids.
>>46602Ok man. Sure whatever. You are just a rabid dog, good thing nobody will ever let you be in charge of anything.
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