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I think Undertale's routes perfectly encapsulate the left/right political axis, and I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right".

The Pacifist Route embodies leftism at it's core: doing what's right even while the world around you basks in indifference. Sticking to your values even when you could make things easier by ignoring them. Working hard to make things better for everyone even while they punish you for it at every turn.

Conversely, the Genocide Route embodies the right wing: going out of your way to make things worse for everyone, far beyond what benefits you. Being willing to make yourself miserable just to bring others down with you. Fighting endlessly to snuff out a resistance to your own eradication.

And the Neutral Route of course represents liberals, centrists. Indifferent to everything around them, they simply do whatever benefits them. No values, no purpose, simply cruising through life without a thought. Sure, they might *try* not to do wrong at first, but once it starts to be an inconvenience it stops being worth the trouble; the lives and happiness of people you barely know don't really matter that much one way or the other.

Truly a masterclass of political commentary, bravo Toby.

>>47291
Why does genocide route sans fight have a banger music though? Why is genocide route presenred as fun?

>>47292
Fascists love the spectacle, the displays of power. They love to exaggerate things to hide how little they actually have to offer. I think this is very fitting for the extremely barren Genocide Route, which consists of only 2 real fights total.

Neutral route embodies everyone and the other two are fantasies.

very cool

>and I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right"
<The Pacifist Route embodies leftism at it's core: doing what's right
<Conversely, the Genocide Route embodies the right wing: going out of your way to make things worse for everyone
uyghur, I don't know why I believed you

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play another game

>I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right"

<leftism is when good values and rightism is when making things worse
fucking retarded pseud

>>47320
>leftism is when good values and rightism is when making things worse
Thats pretty much correct.

>>47340
But much of the "historically progressive" things have been declared evil: slavery, genocide of natives, enclosure, child labor, the early industrial system, Manifest Destiny, and the British conquest of India.

>>47345
Capitalism is progressive vis a vis feudalism, doesn't mean that it is right now

>>47291
Pacifist is normgroid nonsense, pandering to a race of child murderers so they can potentially live out their blood & soil fantasies on the surface, while turning Flowey (the best character in the game who actually understands the world) into a deeply forgettable crybaby who does nothing with the knowledge he's earned. And there's a high chance it gets reverted anyways.

Genocide is actually understanding the world for what it is, an endless cycle of predictable actions by flawed creatures, which you can break by stamping your will onto this world, even if it forces you to make horrible decisions against your morality. Of course, this makes Genocide sound way more compelling than it actually is, as Toby decided to fuck it up by shoehorning Chara in and subsequently pushing all of the character's agency onto Chara. Fun!

If you want to talk about left/right dichotomy (even though it means nothing), there's a case to be had that pacifist is right-wing in its preservation of useless relations simply because, while genocide is actually left-wing in its destruction of the old order and the construction of a new, better world (as lvl20 allows for world creation a la Chara). Pedantics and whatnot.

>and I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right".
that's literally what you're doing THOUGH. the other anon is right, undertale makes no sense if you think about it past the lil goober moralism. why do these critters even want to go above ground, a child armed with a shoe can utterly break the very essence of their being. even the king and his personal guard are no match. and they're so resentful their entire world revolves around building a doomsday weapon against mankind using dead children and their own re-animated corpses. asgore is like a retarded oppenheimer what the fuck. like it bothers me how untenable undertale is a setting for larger themes, it falls into little pieces if you think about it too much.


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