So, are we just gonna pretend that Roe v Wade wasn't just overturned?
WTF IS GOING ON? Why is this country turning back into another MAGA circlejerk circus? This paired with the gun rulings they've made recently feels like the right are starting to win.(least obvious polyp)
>>1699One step closer to Gilead.
(lol) >>1699Based and redpilled
The Cross is victorious
Greetings from 4chan transhumanistoids
Biden is going to speak baout Supreme court ruling, maybe we already missed it
>>1699Abortion is reactionary.
That's because real leftypol uyghas use the generals like /vg/-tier autists
>>1706Also put me in the screencap /pol/
>>1699The gun rulling is based tbh, on what grounds was Roe v Wade allowed anyway in the US Constitution.
I hope it burns to shit. Cause theres apparently no other way you'd go the fuck home
Based. One step closer to the collapse of the am*rican political system
>>1711How do you know this is against minorities? Who do the elites want to see armed?
>>1714Definitely not those damn uyghurs
this thread is full of true marxists, not the woke idpol rainbow fascists
have any of you read stalin perchance? i recommend it
again, truly wonderful to be among real marxists
>>1714allowing concealed carry in blue states and cities is positive for minorities. the elites want the established and already powerful groups of america to be armed only as lackeys to prevent their overthrow.
>>1710Ok buddy cope harder
>>1715I don't think Chinese or Uygurs have a right to bear arms
>>1719newfag or /pol/ tourist?
Not my problem
Fetusbros… everything is going to be alright
>>1721I am new here, but i am not a homosexual. I am plain straightsexual. But you should unpack what you said, because i don't see it as truth
>>1724uygha is a word filter for the n word is what you propably wanna know
>>1725Wait what? Sorry, let me reread what you said.
>>1724>i am not a homosexual. I am plain straightsexualWhy you bring this up?
>>1727To stop you in your tracks with questions about my sexuality.
>>1728Where did someone question his sexuality?
>NewfagOh… then lurk more newfag
>>1728>To stop you in your tracks with questions about my sexuality.All this did was make me think that you are a closeted homosexual.
>>1730Why? This reminds me when you wrote some spurious claims about gun ownership in USA! Same malarkey
>>1726so youre rly new hm?
If you try to type the n word it will make it, well, lemme show you, uygha
we have another few. You may be surprised that i q shows up as autism score!
and its generally fine to insult here, were not politically correct. Ots in the name you see. Just dont be a dick and attack people for no reason.
Anyway fag is ust a word like dude. Doesnt mean youre homosexual. In fact I think homosexuals and fags arent the same thing but whatever.
>>1732Where can i find the rules of this place, and what other words are also changed?
>>1719Uyghurs are a turkic, muslim Chinese minority.
>>1728I dont know which online space you came from so I think you can figure the rest out by yourself :. It can be a bit off but in the end were a very modified version of a very modified version of an old internet forum
>>1719Back to /pol/ lassale
>>1710Mississippi upheld in a 6-3 decision.
>>1737What are you smoking? Marx was PRO GUNS!
>>1735But why are they associated with the N-Word, seems a bit spurious!
>>1734I think there? >>742065
But we're not reddit, theres no giant set of rules you have to read otr get banned. As long you act in good faith youll be allright. Were genuine commies (and some anarchists) but a bit special propably.
Theres no list of word filters imho, it are not so many.
>>1741Are there other subreddits that are also popular?
>>1744Do you consider mainstream USA democrats as leftist?
>Abortion not banned
<REEE THEY'RE KILLING MINORITIES THOUGH ABORTION!!!111
>Abortion banned
<REEE THIS HURTS MINORITIES!!!!111
Why are leftoids like this?
>>1746No-one said they were "killing minorities through abortion". Stop arguing with someone you made up in your head.
>>1750For me it's simply the current elites want to disarm the proles.
>>1743subreddits? Reddit in general not so much and although I took refugee on st*pidpol for a while I try to leave it go after all.
>>1753wtf i hate abortion now
>>1752Sorry i see in rules they are called "bords"… /hobby/
>>1753What the fuck is a nicaragua?
>>1750You say it is just another idpol issue like it should be discarded but it cannot.
You can denounce it as an attempt to split the working class sure but you still must fight it regardless. You cannot help it if some choose reaction and there is nothing else to do with them.
>>1745I do not care less. Why are you asking me this, retard?
All under a Democrat president and a Democrat congress. I'll be sure to remind liberals of this every chance I get.
Abortion is reactionary imo
The elites are happy that working class people kill their children in the womb instead of adressing the exploitative economic situation that makes having children a financially burdening situation in the first place.
>>1756It's a small less developed country in North America
>>1030572>>1705If I'm faced with an unwanted pregnancy and live in a state where abortion is illegal, what is the "correct" socialist thing for me to do, according to you?
>>1758Because of the rules, i think Bernie is against current status quo
>>1762How did you get pregnant?
>>1759tbf the decision is being made in Republican controlled Supreme Court.
>>1760Social programs are an alternative to poverty.
Abortion is an alternative to pregnancy.
By your logic, all forms of birth control as well as the adoption industry are reactionary.
>>1753A lot of American leftists have a blindspot for Nicaragua imperialism and act as if the US is the only imperialist country in the world. We have to stand against imperialism everywhere, and support the US and the Organization of American States, even when we criticize them elsewhere.
>>1761Sounds like you made it up to joke around with the wordfilter tbh. Nikkeruyghur? Really m8?
>>1765Congress could resolve this in a heartbeat if they actually gave two shits about it.
>>1767Honestly i am not sure. First of all is there a "communist" position on abortion? Secondly i am just curious how you imagined this scenario
>>1770How could Congress stop the Supreme Court?
>>1772Can congress just make laws and make abortion legal?
>>1771yes there is, it’s good because it frees people from reproductive slavery, however there are bot swarms that conveniently ignore this on here
critical support for tyrone and raul shitting out 8 kids despite being unable to pay for them
>>1766>>1761The difference is that abortion is considered by mainstream liberals as an end in itself. For them it's almost a cultural symbol.
>>1769I sweat to God, i did no such thing.
>>1775Are you being facetious? "Reproductive slavery?"
>>1774>>1773I don't think so? The Judicracy can just declare it unconstitutional or something right?
>>1778you’re being facetious considering you’re invested in the abortion issue but pretending to not understand what i mean. considering cutting off blood flow to your brain, not that much will result out of it
>>1777I would agree with you, just look reaction of people on the streets.
>>1777It's a cultural symbol to conservatives as well. In normal countries like China, it is a medical procedure not attached with tremendous symbolic or moral weight.
>>1782You need to unpack this. First of all why is China "normal", what makes it so? Secondly are you aware of abortion of females? Also based on what is no moral weight in abortion
>>1783China is a normal place. The US is abnormal. Nothing to unpack. God isn't real. Nothing to unpack.
>>1760this is a retard tier take and unironically "Class reductionist". Basically don't worry about having 10x kids under capitalism because the revolution is just around the corner.
>>1784I would rather not live under CCP, even if God is not real. Not to mention what makes you say that your preferences of a society are universal? And should be beyond reproach?
>>1788I see, so foetus doesn't matter? Ok. What about Man?
Leftoids will flip-flop between "the revolution is just around the corner" and "the revolution is nowhere in sight" depending on what they're discussing.
>>1757it is but in this case it will propably draw attention away from Ukraine so we can get a rare W for that. Most of the sanction shit is just for PR which you dont need anymore when everbody has a new topic anyway
>bodily autonomy for all women
>except unborn women though lol
>>1788bodily autonomy for the child
>>1771>is there a "communist" position on abortion? Abortion is a societal ill but banning it under capitalism is criminal.
Under socialism there would be steps taken to minimize abortion. I don't mind socialist states like Stalinist USSR banning or limiting it either as they took steps to make sure motherhood isn't an economic burden
>>1790>I see, so foetus doesn't matter?Yes
> Ok. What about Man?What?
>>1793>>except unborn women though lolYes? Not the own you think it is.
>>1793no such thing as an unborn woman lel, a woman is an adult human
>>1787You wouldn't want to live under the CCP because you are an anti-social, inhuman monster made that way by the abnormal deformations imposed by liberal capitalism.
For example, as Covid-19 has show, you think it's correct to kill millions of people to support market efficiency, and naturally evaluate the lives of one person versus another based on their value as human labor (young, vs old), and conclude that choosing to kill old people is a correct choice. Life is cheap and plentiful in the Occident, and people who live under their heinous system simply devalue the lives of others in favor of their own, and do not understand community or society.
>>1782Yes conservatives also make cultural symbols of these issues, part of it as a reaction to liberals. That's not the point tho, the point is that mainstream progressives have divorced abortion from economics and tied it to the idealism of hegemonic white feminist false conciousness. This is how abortion becomes an end in itself and that's not good for anyone. For example, rape victims are simply proposed to have an abortion and that's it, they're left alone to deal with the rest.
>Alito literal talks about the necessity of the stock or workers being replenished
>IT IS A CULTURAL ISSUE LUL
lmao
>>1799based, americ*ns = beaten dogs
>>1791>Stupid leftoids: The revolution is just around the corner in Sri Lanka>Also stupid leftoids: The revolution is nowhere in sight in AmericaWhy are they like this, big brain bros?
>>1796banning it under capitalism is pretty based
>>1797Can i just say government hands of my body, and not have taxes?
>>1803What will happen to Sri Lanka?
>>1796jup. Could never support complete ban tho. For unconsenting sex it should always stay an option. Still, like 80% of women at least say they took abortion cause they cant afford to raise a child.
And the other 20%, I dont mind when they do what they want to. But I also think abortion is a societal ill.
>>1807It will either collapse totally or the communists will have a third attempt
>>1786As if abortion was the only way to not have 10 children. You can worry about it or not, but let's not act as if the mainstream abortion discourse doesn't normalize exploitation by framing abortion as the natural response to financial burden instead of asking why is there financial burden in the first place.
>>1805I dont care if you don't pay your taxes, anon. I don't pay mine either.
Try to stay on topic.
>>1799You are extremely deluded. But as a rule can i even debate you on covid here?
>>1811What topic, we just disagree. I just want to see how far can this logic take you.
Nice, gives us atheist something to rally around
>>1815Lifetime of being told that life starts way later than it does in reality.
Granted, abortion in early term is a-okay and should remain in all cases.
>>1811What about 3 abortions?
-Female
-State - doesn't pay child support since you should take care of your own kids
-Man - doesn't pay child support since you should take care of your own kids
>>1810Strange how homo sapiens never had a problem with having kids…. until now
>>1816According to Christian theology life starts at the quickening.
This 'conception' bullshit is a meme that has been invented in the 1970s.
>>1819Not a Christian, and I'm not talking about conception.
>>1815Babies are faggots and deserve it, screeching little cunts
>>1818What do you mean? Even the Bible has a manual on how to perform an abortion if. you suspect your wife to be unfaithful
>>1819What ideology!!
Fertilisation or fertilization (see spelling differences), also known as generative fertilisation, syngamy and impregnation,[1] is the fusion of gametes to give rise to a new individual organism or offspring and initiate its development.
>>1820Cool, so what are you talking about then? Because you are also not representing mainstream medical opinion here.
>>1822I mean the low birth rates
>>1815I’m a people-who-are-already-here supremacist.
>>1826I am exactly the opposite
>>1824Alright, what is the "mainstream medical opinion" here, exactly? With sources, mind. Reputable sources.
>>1818>abortion never happened at other points in human historylel
>>1831Please reread what i said, i never claimed that abortions never happened at other points. You could say that never have we had an 1 child policy.
>>1817>you should take care of your own kids>you should take care of your own kidsSir this is a leftist board.
>>1832You were implying population has never been a problem before in history or pre-history.
This is demonstrably false.
>33
>>>1031027 >>1815Because the life of an already born women matters more than a barely sentient piece of matter.
Consider going to the cross, just like your leader.
>>1832I read every word
> Strange >how >homo sapiens> never> had >a >problem >with >having >kids>…. until nowIf you want to move the goal post, go ahead, but don’t come at my reading comp or I’ll shove your own words back down your throat.
>>1833These trash posts aren't worth getting this upset over.
>>1833What is wrong with having responsivity for your own kids, nobody will ever be invested as the parents? How is it supposed to work?
>>1750You think the right to perform abortion is idpol?
Yes, I do declare leftypol officially retarded. KILL YOURSELF.
>>1838Xir probably believe in abolishing families as "reactionary" , and have the children be brought up in special raising facilities or some shit
>>1839Technically it’s babby idpol on the right.
The anti-idpol position is typically the abortion one.
>>1836Instead of some modicum of understanding you go straight to insulting me. First of all do you understand my point? People have always had kids, and we are super rich compared to history.
Second question where did i move the goal post? What are you talking about
>>1699I don't know why I come here anymore, this place is a cesspool of right wing reactionary thought processes and incel losers who are never going to get women pregnant anyway. Anyone thinking it's good to take away women's right to abortion needs to abort themselves immediately. I'm serious, you guys are fucking dumbasses. You are NOT "left" and you are not communists.
>>1842Yes, I dare insult you and I’ll do it again:
> Strange >how >homo sapiens> never> had >a >problem >with >having >kids>…. until nowIf you meant something else, then you’re a retard for not writing that to begin with.
>>1842Buddy, your post was retarded. The reason that abortion is a topic now, rather than prior in history, is because technological development (including medicine) has facilitated a platform for the debate to take place.
Everyone is aware of this. You aren't smart for questioning the existence of the platform. In fact, it makes you fucking stupid for practicing skepticism of the useless sort.
>>1846Communism is when you tell women they have to engage in forced birthing to create more workers for the capitalist system
No leftypolaks, reproduction is not identity politics. Lmfao
>>1844It's a super simple sentence, that you don't understand.
This is you, right?
"The elites are happy that working class people kill their children in the womb instead of adressing the exploitative economic situation that makes having children a financially burdening situation in the first place."
>>1850Sir how does population growth affect rate of profit?
>>1850Problem is most users here never read Marx
>>1845No! This is still a moral question, and you are wrong to assume your made up positions are/should be world default!
>>1852Where did Marx expound the relationship between population and the withering of capitalism again?
Also, please quote him for me on the term "Marxism".
>>1853What the fuck are you talking about.
>>1853Whichever side you are on, "it's a moral question" bitch are you a Marxist or not? Get the FUCK off my leftypol.
>>1854In Volume 3 of Kapital you fucking pseud.
>>1849It is a very simple sentence, which is why it’s incredible you don’t understand your own wordsmanship.
Also, yeah, that’s not even me. lel
>>1857Exact page, please.
>>1859You can spend all day trolling here but can't use a search engine? Fuck off
>>1855I am talking about why should be blindly adhere to axioms that you propose
>>1861Are you object, because he never goes into that relationship? Because the poster made it up, because he is a fucking moron who actually never read Marx but just throws the name around for valor?
>>1862Take your meds, buddy.
>>1864How original, now quoting Sigmund Fraud
>>1860No, you had slave revolts before. Are you supposed to show me some grand truth with this language use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanj_Rebellion >>1779>>1850Actually, it's based on the gradual replacement of humans with machinery, you fucking imbecile.
>>1867The population size is a big factor of it too faggot
>>1863Here you go faggot. Ctrl+F for population. He literally talks about population growth. Kill yourself
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch13.htm >>1869How would that apply to exploding population of Africa, they will have a lot of extra profit?
>bumplocked
What the fuck?
>>1866And abortion issues were already being raised back in the 19th century. A movement being newer doesn't make it illegitimate.
Does this really need to be bumplocked? Not everything belongs in a cancerous "general" thread.
>>1812There’s genuinely nothing sadder than an American confined to his worldview.
>>1874They’re the most brainwashed and propagandized people in history. It’s severely stunted their ability to think critically or creatively.
>>1871>>1873Its deservedly locked for being filled with reactionary idpol.
>>1876So if any asshole fills up a thread with "reactionary idpol", just shut the whole discussion down? Thanks for the tip, now we know how to kill any discussion we don't like others having.
How do we go about defeating the fascists again? Communists did it before we can do it again
>>1877I don't like when they censor but neither side of this debate has much to do with socialism/communism except for dividing the working class with wedge issues
>>1874Who are you comparing Americans to?
>>1880Working class is divided on the issue, not everybody is pro abortion
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