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>>2737>watching the entire [good] star wars anthology with my gf
>this is my first time ever watching the star wars films, 20 years into my life
>we are watching as george lucas intended, starting with ep 1 from 1999 unto episode 3 from 2005, and then episode 4 from 1977 and then ending with return of the jedi.
>i watch the first film with open expectations but ready for the potential that i awkwardly keep myself entertained while waiting for the movie to end, and then try to eventually explain to my gf i dont want to watch the rest but…
>the movie is good, like, really good
>there's elements of politics, philosophy, there's action, there's bits of greek tragedy in there, and that's just the phantom menace.
>the attack of the clones was pretty ok, not much to say there, the arc with anakin was pretty sad
>it just so happens that me and my gf's viewing of the series happened to coincided with the episode 3 rescreening for the anniversary. i got to go to a huge theater, one that was the first i ever been in when i was like four, and see an absolute cinematic masterpiece. i was on the edge of my seat watching a painful downfall, it was fucking great.
>i watched a new hope like, two weeks ago. its okay
>i watched the empire strikes back yesterday
>it was fucking shit
>like - not garbage but not great, either. maybe it was cool when it was the second time you're ever seeing han solo and luke but goddamn is it fucking stupid lol, the whole movie is about luke meeting yoder and han trying to escape the imperial fleet, after 30 minute sof dicking around in fucking antarctica or somethin
im still excited to watch the end of the series next week
>>46040Yes, basically. To top it off, Lonni had to get access to ISB lady's device, tell Luthen about the Signal Chat, who shoots him dead immediatly in broad day light, to then fail to detroy the communication kit because he has to have a chat with ISB lady. But ISB lady is arrogant so instead of just immediatly arresting Luthen, she has to go on a rant. Luthen uses this as a chance to stab himself. However, he fails at killing himself just as he failed killing the com-kit. Luckily, Kleya, who should already be on her way off the planet, stayed to witness Luthen being transported to the hospital. She then, as one of two people knowing the ISB Signal Chat intel, has to go on a Bourne-Style hospital infiltration to kill Luthen. Of course she succeeds in this, against all odds. Kleya is then successfully extracted from the planet by Andor, with a wee little help of Deux Ex Machina, i mean K2SO, or whatever; which only could work because the frightening incompetent ISB sent a unit of six people to apprehend the, in this moment, single most important target in the galaxy and was not able to mobilze more force even when their whole friggin communications with their one single unit broke down.
>>46044Keep in mind that if you're watching the Original Trilogy either from a modern streaming platform or bought a modern collection, you're watching an very edited version of the movies.
If you're not sure, there's an easy way to tell. In
A New Hope, Han Solo is confronted by an alien bounty hunter named Greedo. In the original film, Han subtlety pulls out his blaster from under the table and shoots Greedo mid-sentence. If Greedo fires at all, you're watching one of the later edits, because that is one of the first edits they made when they started fucking with it.
The rebellion is bourgeois. That's not a bad thing, they are fighting against fascists, but everything they do is for bourgeois aims not socialist ones. It's actually really interesting, you could interpret the rebellion as a rebellion of the big, interplanetary bourgeois corporations, who are being sidelined by the empire. The rebellion always explicitly had a lot of corporations and old money (Mon Mothma, Princesses and shit) on its side. Since the Empire it trying to nationalize their shit they are going against it. There are also a lot of proletarian elements in the rebel alliance too though, and they are the ones who start it all, but its clear they are sidelined by the end of Andor.
The New Republic will repeat all the failiures of the Old Republic, like being unable to stop slavery, because they have the same class character. Like all bourgeois republics it is built on idealism. It's all this rubbish Force religion, thinking that by holding to the 'light' side of the force they will be able to make things better. In a way they are similar to Christian Utopian Socialists. They are bourgeois (in this context imagine them like Hamas, they should be critically supported in the fight against fascism but in the end they are bourgeois religious idealists).
The Galaxy literally needs socialism. The Rebel Alliance was never going to fix anything unless the bourgeois elements were purged early on. The following is a practical plan for Socialist victory in the Galaxy as Saw Gerrera.
1. Start communicating more with other rebel cells. After a big attack on an imperial stronghold go to Yavin and say you want to make up with the leaders. Activate your propaganda agents to start swaying a plurality of the rebels there to the socialist position. Pretend to be nice and reformed. Blackmail Luthen, say you will report him to the Empire if he does not do what you want. Eclipse the existing rebel leaders and erode the aristocrat power. Launch a coup when Mon Mothma is being brought to Yavin, when she arrives be nice and keep her alive as a figurehead but under a tight leash.
2. Instead of using corporations build X-wing and kalashnikov factories on distant asteroids and dwarf planets using droid labour. Use the fact that you are fighting in an entire galaxy to your advantage, since they can't be everywhere at once. Slowly begin to purge the petit-bourgeois elements from the alliance whilst appropriating the wealth of the bourgeois assets you have under your control. Kill Luthen off once his wealth is extracted (the assassin can tell him his death will be beneficial to the rebellion). Intensify propaganda, create a dedicated propaganda institution and solidify control over the rebelion. Apart from this continue the People's War.
3. Don't make this a big deal for organic species (their consciousness is only so far developed) but tell the droids that you will end droid slavery if you win. This will fundementally swing the most exploited elements in the galaxy to your side since nobody else is advocating for them. Keep this low key at first but slowly ramp it up. Droids will flock to work in the X-Wing factories because there they are given 8 hour work days which is better than what they were given before.
4. The bourgeois elements in the Rebellion will try to wrest back control. This is the most decisive part of the whole plan. Crush them and use it as an excuse to purge every remaining enemy. The Rebel Alliance will now be a military part-like organization where everyone remaining understands the socialist party line.
5. Let the Death Star destroy a few planets to show how evil the Empire is before blowing the power core up from within by a droid suicide bomber. Propaganda will say that a crack team of X and Y-Wings had destroyed it through a secret weak point.
6. Don't let Luke Skywalker go to meet Yoda (in fact kill that old reactionary). Send him to learn the ways of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism instead. Do scientific study of the force, turning it into a field of physics.
7. AK47s will be distributed to crack teams, these weapons will shoot straight through lightsabers. Kill Darth Vader.
8. The corporations will be fully on the Empire's side by now. Don't get into a ground war with the Imperial Army because we don't have the logistics. Once all the outer rim is on our side we can move onto the mid rim. Start from the countryside and encircle the towns. In order to counter this reactivate the old droid legions and tap into Seperatist support. By now droid liberation will be a mainstream talking point, even if the petit-bourgeois will not like it.
9. Send envoys to all the oppressed native groups like the Ewoks and the Tuscan Raiders. Organize the Ewok's into a guerrila army. Send them to destroy the shield generator whilst sending a crack team of X-Wings (no need for capital ships) into the 2nd death star and destroy it from within. Suicide tactics should be used.
10. At this point the Empire will be split and they are being outproduced. Start engaging with them in conventional warfare using droid armies. There will probably be a recruitment drive at this point due to them being scared of droids but they are already being outproduced at this point. Anyway it is too little too late, with the emperor dead they will split into warlords and be defeated one by one. Even if the Emperor lives they are still being outproduced.
11. Establish a one party Galactic Soviet Union. Don't negotiate with the imperials, kill them all off. Liquidate the Hutts too, kill every one of them in public executions and encorporate their criminal empire. Begin implementing New Democracy on feudal worlds and socialism on capitalist ones. Liberate all Droids. Reduce the working day to 5 hours. Ban the Jedi and the Sith as reactionary religions and destroy all their texts. Begin abolishing the state and instituting communism once all external threats are dealt with and all internal resistance is quashed.
12. The Galactic Soviet Union has been established. It will be a grand scale
Was the Republic and the core before the rise of the empire in an imperialist relationship with the outer rim? Why do we never refer to the republic as imperialist?
>>46088PPW would have saved them.
>>46095UP THE DROID LIBERATION ALLIANCE
UP THE DOROS PARTISANS
UP THE ANTI-HUMAN BRIGADES
>>46129It was in the 2017 vader comic.
I also liked it alot :D
>>46132My fan fic would be if they just made the thrawn trillogy movies.
They could of skipped the clone luke saga tho.
On another note: I always thought the time skip before Cade get introduced was meant for them to have more room to make more movies was my fan theory for a long time.
>>46135This would have helped bridge the idea of the Reminents of the Empire becoming a power house by rallying with their former enemies like we see in the actual novels to recreate the empire in a infant new republic. The New Republic should be shown as struggling as after the rebellion none of the former rebel allies could get along due to differences in ideology thus causing paralysis in the galactic senate as it is stuck in gridlock.
Sure a second galactic civil war would been clique but I feel like it would make sense as the New Reoublic can't fully root put the Imperial influence and the reminants and are forced into an uncomfortable alliance due to the reminants having more ships for the war effort against the Vong. Of course this would rupture the New Republic being in crippling debt unable to recover and are even more fractured than before.
This of course leads to the Reminents to take back control of the galactic stage after being hailed as war heroes for saving the galaxy. Then having a three way war to break out with the old heads thay wanted thr New Republic, the new Empire, and the separatist group they'll felt like they were not being heard and want to make a new form of government.
Now onto a story that I was fighting for edge of the empire ttrpg was going to Rakata Prime escaping the Empire. Only to see the historic site being basically a star ship graveyard and the star forge that was slowly repairing itself over the last 3000 years after it's destruction. Being introduced to zombie sith troopers and old republic soldiers.
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